Can Israel stand alone without weapons deliveries from the US? | DW News
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- Israel says its military has enough weapons and munitions to press ahead with an offensive in the southern Gaza city of Rafah. This comes after a warning from US President Joe Biden that Washington could cut some weapons exports to Israel if the offensive goes ahead - fearing massive civilian casualties. More than 100,000 people have already fled Rafah looking for safe haven, according to the UN. And for most, it's not the first time they've done so.
For more on this, we talk to military analyst Marina Miron from King’s College London.
And we talk to Middle East analyst Laura Blumenfeld. She served in the US State Department as senior policy advisor for the Middle East and joins us from Washington D.C.
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13:45 "So many civilians are dying..." Why don't you ever say the exact count of civilian deaths DW? And compare it to that in Ukraine. Compare how many women and children died? Is truth becoming an inconvenience?
Hms' numbers have been completely debunked, and never even claimed how many were civilians in the first place. Nobody even claims to have counted, so there are no numbers to report.
There is no reliable count of civilian deaths in Gaza.
There's no count to report. Even Hms has never claimed to know.
They killed the counters at about 32k dead. Even Israel didn't dispute those numbers
@@fakename1656 You're referring to the claims from Hms' MoH about the number of people, not the number of civilians. Hms never distinguishes between civilians and combatants in these claims. The OP here was referring to a count of civilians -- there is no such count.
Next time think twice before beat on hornets nest...
Funny how the Israeli defence secretary is saying Biden loves Hamas lol
Letz Go BRANDON 🇨🇳
He does
That can't possibly come back to haunt him.
This is also a good one
Settlements and National Projects Minister Orit Strock :
"The United States does not meet the minimum requirements for being a friend of the State of Israel"
Biden is a double-standard guy. Crooked Biden.
You can’t destroy an ideology with bombs. How many times do we have to go through this?
Until people see it's flawed ideology
Humans never learn from history. Ironic since the US warned Israel at the start of the war not to repeat the same mistake they made, yet here we are.
Exactly. They are actually validating it. Hamas becomes irrelevant through peace, not war.
@@kayskreed US and Israel are NOT in the same position. Israel is just trying to get rid of an immediate threat. US never faced anything like this 3 km from their borders.
It did destroy mein kampf ideology, also destroyed Isis ideology, maybe not completly but enough to made it irrelevant.
Someone else on DW said it won't make a difference bc Israel already received what is necessary what is being held back in terms of weapons are not necessary
The United States' friendship with Netanyahu leaves many doubts about its commitment to human rights, freedom and justice.
They're not really our friends, but our responsibility. Like a child who we gave every opportunity to, but they turned out badly. What would happen in Gaza and Israel if our totally questionable commitment to human rights was completely absent? Plenty of Americans are more than ready to turn our backs to the whole thing if we can.
Left out the Israelis murdered by the Palestinians oct7
Imagine someone trying to tell the US not to do anything after 9/11. We'd have told them to go pound sand.
You started injust wars and destableized an entire region! Don't play holyer than holy. Your countries wealth is based on the blood of others
Yes, but as we all know the US sprinted from one disaster after the other, because it didn't heed the warnings.
@@univeropa3363 Was the U.S. response really a disaster? On 9/11/2001, if you had told me that there wouldn't be another major terrorist attack on U.S. soil for the next 23 years, I'd have said you were dreaming.
@@canitbethat Their collapsed moral standing around the world, the trillions of debt, the war crimes, the victims and the humiliation in Iraq and Afghanistan.
@univeropa3363
None of that happened other than the debt. Stop watching your propagandist anti-western liar media “sources.”
Thanks for the update!
It didn't start on October 7:
Haifa massacre - March 6, 1937
Jerusalem massacre - Dec 6, 1937
Haifa massacre - March 27, 1938
Haifa massacre - July 6, 1938
Jerusalem massacre - July 13, 1938
Jerusalem massacre - July 15, 1938
Haifa massacre - July 25, 1938
Jerusalem massacre - July 26, 1938
Balad al-Sheikh massacre - June 12, 1939
Haifa massacre - June 19, 1939
Haifa massacre - June 20, 1947
Jaffa massacre - Dec 12, 1947
Abbasiya massacre - Dec 13, 1947
Al-Khasas massacre - Dec 18, 1947
Bab al-Amud massacre - Dec 29,
1947
Jerusalem massacre - Dec 30,
1947
Balad al-Sheikh massacre - Dec 31, 1947
Deir Yassin massacre - April 9, 1948
Abu Shusha village massacre - May 9, 1948
Tantura massacre - May 22, 1948
Lydda massacre - July 1948
Qibya massacre - Oct 14, 1953
Al-Dawayima massacre - Oct 29, 1948
Kafr Qasem massacre - Oct 29, 1956
Khan Yunis massacre - Nov 3, 1956
Rafah massacre - Nov 12, 1956
Abu Zaabal factory bombing - Feb 13, 1970
Sabra and Shatila massacre - Sept 16, 1982
Al-Aqsa Mosque massacre - Oct 8, 1990
lbrahimi Mosque massacre - Feb 25, 1994
Qana massacre - April 18, 1996
Jenin massacre - April 3, 2002
Qana massacre - July 30, 2006
Gaza Strip massacre - August 5, 2022
Jenin massacre - January 26, 2023
Jenin massacre - July 3, 2023
enough is enough, the palestines are not the victims they are the agressors, they are terrorists. they use children and civilians as a shield, the 7th of october they killed babies and children, raped women, and took civilians hostage. the next day all the palestines where partying, loving their jihad. they got ehir jihad now. i have 0 compassion for them.
Everyone who reads this comment should also go watch the documentary Tantura. See what the Israeli Irgun and Lehi gangs did to gain their "state". Apartheid always fails.
She puts the dilemma very well.
That’s the politics people don’t know about or take advantage of if they do understand.
"Collateral damage" is not a term that you can reasonably use in these circumstances. Try substituting 'murder' or 'slaughter'!
No, it's exactly right technically. It's plainly obvious that Isrl's objective is the overthrow of Hamas. Isrl gains nothing at all strategically from casualties or destruction that doesn't contribute to their overthrow, so that would be "collateral" to their goals.
They want to "murder" and "slaughter" the enemy, any other damage in a war is "collateral damage"..There, free education for you.
How many UN hospitals do we have in Congo in Sudan in Somalia
Hey they tried. Many people where scared western doctors would make them sick again and insisted on going to the witch Doctor instead.
Do you actually care about that or just want to be smug?
Poverty deaths and war in those countries don't bring publicity to the UN and western donors. They too expect something in return.
Why are you asking here? Go Google it or ask chatgpt
There are no J's there. J's are news
It's not a good sign if it's tough to tell wether an operation has started.
I think that that's actually a clear sign said operation has in fact, already started. It's facts vs semantics.
why do we need to only give swcurity guarantees to the occupier?
The Palestinians, just like the Kosovars, deserve freedom with or without Israeli consent.
The state of Israel history, always always comes up with surprising miracles.
You have no history 😂😂😂😂
Well, 2000 years is a long time to be waiting...you will need a miricle to regain any form of credibility and trust now
Ah yeah, being opressed by Ancient Egypt, Pilistine, Roman and Ottoman for Thousands Years. Nothing glory in your history.
yes they can!
I suppose Rhein metal see a golden business opportunity.
How will Netanyahu know when he's killed the last Hamas member?
How will he be certain he has all the hostages?
He does need to be certain or know he just needs to try first and believe he can do it
He doesn't need to be certain of either to succeed.
@@canitbethat succeed at what exactly?
@@rhetorical1488 Succeed at depriving Hms of the resources of a state and it's large-scale army, making it far less of a threat to Isrl.
there will always be more...just a excuse to steal more land from anyone who they proclaim as "Terrorists"
lying , they are "waiting for deliveries" , NOT " pauses deliveries" .
After the package recently arrived, they said they were "holding" the delivery, which were actually "waiting" for the next delivery that is on the way.
what a goose
Word salad.
Well done to DW for permitting comments on their videos, unlike most mainstream media.
أللهم انصر اخواننا في فلسطين
Stop dreaming 🤣
“I saw him wipe a tear off his eye”.... How adorable... Damn hypocrites
"Martyred" ....
5:00 aren't these groups notorious for accountability. I do not understand the lack of claiming liability and surrounding partners condemning fighting.
Without US weapons, he’s a desperate, unhinged, International Pariah.
Hard to have sympathy when they are literally saying “8 people we’re martyred” so they don’t even see these deaths as innocent
You are incorrect. The word martyred or at least as translated has subtlety different meaning to English. They say babies are martyred also and nobody thinks they are fighters.
Yes, they can and will!
DW - die hard Israel supporter
Would the Palestinians help Israel if the Table was turned.vHellvNo;!
You can't talk about "the Palestinians" till they have their souvereign state.
you have been decieved. Israel is NOT the victim here... hahaha... that is about the most ignorant stance I've ever heard, Palestines have been TREATED LIKE SUBHUMAN for over 75 years,... everything stolen from them, they have nothing ,, and israel has massive amounts of weaponry and money... its like David and GOLIATH.... ignorance is bliss
This woman is not serious, isreal could loss? To who hamas unbelievable.
i dont think she is saying that would lose to hamas, just that they would not be able to achieve objectives. I dont think she is correct either way.
If Germany is concerned about immigration then it should help Ukraine
Yeah they can fight with their own Nails says Netanyahu
No chance.. 😂🎉
And they can and they will.
@@Alpharizzchad
So why.. Cry me river then?
Antisemitism? 😂
Chosen people begging non chosen people to save their butts 😂😂
Don't underestimate the power of God. Israel prevails, God prevails ❤
God is not on your side.@@jasminjemima
Go on,proceed,don't leave in fear.
Well, Israel has guaranteed that Israel will live in fear for at least the next two generations. You cannot win a gorilla war if you keep adding fuel.
[11:13] To paraphrase Albert Einstein: In a world where the smart weapons are in restricted supply, the war in Gaza and/or elsewhere, can be prosecuted with tens-of-tons of rocks dropped from out of the back of transport aircraft, from an altitude of 15,000 feet.
Im sending Israel glue-on nails and nail polish that my gf left here
That's too generous.
lol
The reason you're guy-friend left it was because he thought you could better use it for yourself............
@@USMC-Sniper-0137, lol
@@niamtxiv
Us pretending to cutoff israel weapons sending, all because ICC publicly hinted efforts being made to intimidate the court if arrest warrant is issued vs Netanyahu
Why does it really need to worry when Germany is there!
They stopped welding anti drone hats on their tanks. Clearly they are facing fierce resistance.
😂 they don’t have it on all
Of them 🤦♂️
whats the point of having them move if theyre always assuming hamas will follow and hide behid them anyway?
Do you have a heart and a soul and an educated mind.
They hope to gain military control of the entire area so that Hamas could be dealt with regardless of where they are moving.
Do not forget that they are also crushing resurgences, for example in a hospital recently in Khan Younes.
Who's Hamas, they are Palestinians for God sake.leave the people's lands.
Its Israeli land that was attacked.
Who's Hamas? Oct. 7 tells you exactly who they are.
When in majority and total domination ~WE FEAR ONLY A LLAH
When in minority and losing ~ BEOBLE OF THE WORLD HELB US WE R INNOCENT SEND US FREEBIES INFIDELS
Never underestimate Netty's willingness to turn a personal grudge into a world event.
I think they are saying, All eyes on Rafah...!
No! They can’t
you need 2 move.
This people are the course for the war
Why are you showing only civilians who are strucked by Israel bombudments? Ask them how many Hamas fighters are alsoe strucked together so we now Israeli army doesn't mistakenly target civilians. Show both parties together.
They won't do that it is against the narrative
What about the caliphate in Germany? Why doesn't DW report on the insane rallies in Germany e.g. in central Hamburg?
What about the Romans?
@@ansgarm.cordie9659 their society became decadent and was invaded by barbarians who tore it down from the inside.
@@ansgarm.cordie9659 they too were brought down by barbarian invasions
The terrorists are terrified and hide among the children. So despicable !
And the IDF use kids to enter suspect buildings and open suspect bags...so despicable!!!
Pointless war..
2:15 fuel is what they used for the bulldozer to breach the security fence, what they used for all motor vehicles to take hostages not including the tractors they stole from the nearby kibbutzim to take even more hostages
War is a bad thing. It's best avoided.
Don't raise your sons in anger to be fighters.
Instead teach your sons to seek the path of peace.
Or this is the result.
Give Ukraine the means to defend itself
This analyst is from Israeli block
Better than anything most in english.
Trolls have nothing to do with real humans 😅😅😅😅
Quite the contrary. The sympathy for "civilians" is showing
@@thekneidlachengineer6038exactly, "civilians".
Next analyst come from Hamas block 😀
Father Abraham, man of tremendous empathy ... couldn't have come up with a better description for Joe Biden!
We have been hearing "hospitals on the edge of collapse" and "famine is imminent" since last year. Can any of the new channels actually provide some hard data? I'm not on either side, but if I want opinion I'd read a column.
napping gracez? Wake up.
All hospitals are leveled in Gaza.
All doctors returning from Gaza have hard data about mass starvation, dehydration, and a human catastrophe.
@@johnrider4649 "All hospitals are leveled in Gaza?" Just plain false. Some have been damaged when Hms occupied them and Isrl had to flush them out, and some have been shut down, but none have been "leveled." If you disagree, please name the ones that are no longer standing. Also, if there's "hard data about mass starvation, dehydration" please cite it -- I've seen none so far.
@@johnrider4649time to surrender
@@canitbethat
So it's Hamas not IDF that brought down Hospitals,Simply logic!
@@johnrider4649 Exactly!!! Absolutely heartbreaking!!! Torturing and murdering doctors as well!!!
Jo Brandon posturing. Does anyone really think Israel is critically impacted by weapons from the US? What is really going on?
Children are the victims, yes but where are the hostages, children, elderly and women, others too?
Tell that to the 30,000-50,000 hostages Isreal has. Or the 13,000+ hostages Isreal took from the west bank since October 7th, along with 1,000 killed there to.
3,000 yrs old war.
3000 years of war with whom?
Nice try😅
no only 75 ~100 years old
Collateral damage, not intentionally damage to civilians children and women
BOLLOCKS!!!!!
Guess it was a bad idea to elect terror group hamas. Guess oct 7 was a bad idea. Looks like they celebrated too early on Oct 8.
Israel and Netanyahoo supported Hamas for years to disrupt governing in Gaza.
Google it.
Hamas was created, funded and trained by the US and Israel to overthrow Arafat. People need to pay attention.
They had no one else to elect, isreal tuck the guy running against hamas and made him prisoner. They then funded hamas in the election in the hopes of have control over the Palestinians and that backfired.
Neti government funded Hamas to get then elected!
Israel had listened to the world which ended up like this. This is a fixing to survive.
they need to do as they're told for any future..
That middle east expert was not very smart....
This is a lesson they won't attack israel anymore learn
From now on it is destroying itself anyways!
only an ignorant thinks so. Previous brutalities, blockade and occupation radicalised this generation. Current brutalities are radicalising upcoming generations. Mathematics of insurgency is like 10 minus 2 equals 20. You may take some lessons from Afghanistan.
@@dave84111 OK, say that you're right. Isrl successfully overthrows Hms, and ends up occupying Gz with a radical population that still believes in Hms ideology. Suppose it were your job to advise Isrl on their next moves, purely for their own interests. What would you recommend to them?
Absolutely 💯 % true
💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸
That's a very naïeve view - when ppl r ready to die u have past the point of negotiation
Never forget Never Forgive 7 oCt
Or the women and children killed by the IDF in response...how many relatives of those killed will want to avenge the deaths of their loved ones who are still buried under the rubble of Gaza?....you can't bomb, shell, shoot or starve hatred into submission...Israel has just created a reserviour of people who now hate Israel even more. Tragic and counterproductive.
they won't ever need to go it alone because america is a weapons dealer that will always find ways to sell weapons to the world.
*American companies
You'd buy Chinese, but your life may depend on it. So you buy American ;)
USA just give $94 Billion aid to israel to buy USA weapon. i dont quite understand how this industry work.
These poor horses are suffering so much.
I feel bad for the horses. They had nothing to do with this.
grow up people human life is more importint
@@gtav-gk3ym what human
@@gtav-gk3ym Nope. humans are worst of all species. look how much we have damaged the environment..
It is easy to act like that on the Internet knowing is never will be your shoes 😢😢
What will happen to all the displaced people if Ukraine should fall?
But wait hamas just attack the border with rockets
but wait Israel has been supporting 700,000 war criminals in East Jerusalem and the West Bank for generations.
Poor people. Free from Hamas
israel created HAMAS IN THE FIRST PLACE.. fact,, so in theory they are Hamas
No it’s not going to be slow & painful.
You just aren’t going to watch the morality being dished out.
Dont mess with US.
US foreign Policy is shaped by the threat of Israeli supporters no longer donating to ANY US polician who is not supportive of Israel....which is why POTUS is careful not to go too far
I can guarantee without knowing anything, Israel will be more careful with the ordnance they currently have
The Palestinians should know better not to support Hamas. They would not suffer now if they didn't attack israel on October 7th.
Apartheid existed before hamas did
If anyone attacks you, it is not from Me;
whoever assails you will fall before you.
16Behold, I have created the craftsman
who fans the coals into flame
and forges a weapon fit for its task;
and I have created the destroyer
to wreak havoc.
17No weapon formed against you shall prosper,
and you will refute every tongue that accuses you.
This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD,
and their vindication is from Me,”
I will make you into a great nation,
and I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing.[a]
3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.
if you stop supporting the blessing of God will stop also
No book can justify what has been done in the name of a Book - Israel is not an Exception to the laws and customs of War. Israel is just another state doing ordinary war crimes.
Allah akbar in Hebrew. There really is no difference between Isis and Isreali's anymore.
"key ally" ... does anyone remember who was the key ally of the USA in Afghanistan???? 🤔...
Duh!!!
Great decision from the president. To peace!
Kings college= western narrative
Question is what will Israel do when not on a lesh
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ندعوا الله يا أهل غزه
Bye, Felicia
Always so much fun to find the approved words that won’t make the comment go bye bye in this digital dystopia.
Why Hamas didn't stop then Israel also stop for all of this
supporting terrorists has consequences
Who the terrorist exacrly at this point
You mean for the Israeli Minister of National Security who has been convicted of supporting terrorists?
@@obaidtanweer8800Palestinians
agreed, abandon support of Israel that has kept a people in bondage for 58 years...
Exactly , and America had to cut its funding to the biggest terrorist involved
If criminal act was done by Israel, what about people who have done massacre against Israelis and started the war. Open your eyes people.
Israel starts wars sinds 1948. People are tyerd of the lies the problem is not only Hamas.
Israel is supporting 700,000 war criminals in East Jerusalem and the West Bank and has been supporting these war criminals for generations.
Israel is a colonial state abusing the natives of the land. The natives are simply resisting their abuse. By the time Hamas attacked on October 7, Israel had already killed hundreds of Palestinians in the West Bank in their illegal land grabs. Israel had been arming its citizens to go to Palestinian communities to attack Palestinians, force them to flee in order to take over their land. Hamas is a reaction to the Israeli land grab, brutal military occupation, siege, apartheid……. I do not understand how Hamas who are defending the defenseless is seen as evil.
If slaves had a right to revolt surely the Palestinians have a right to revolt against their evil oppressors.
War did not start on the 7 oct.Don' t be ignorant
im sending IOF diapers.
There seems to be a questionmark everytime Isreael is threatend with something that results in no descisions being taken because its unclear.
Israel can never defeat Hamas if both sides have the same weapons.
Well, then it's good that they don't. :-)
A month ago I wouldn't have considered voting for Trump, but now I'm considering donating to his campaign.
I think there are a lot of Americans feeling that way right now.
The number is growing
We are in Rafah
now 🤣🤣🤣
Yes Esrael will win even Biden don't want to help
I think you spelt Itsnotreal wrong.
It’s so sad that Hamas chose to set up in rafah 😢…. They refuse to not use human shields
They have more than we think. America is sending
I find no joy to say this to my American friends, but Washington seems to be run by a narcissist who states "ironclad" but does "flexible"!
Projecting Trump again?
@@johnrider4649 this has nothing to do with who runs the office, this has something to do with someone who makes sure to deliver to Israel!
16:27 I'm sorry, "father Ibrahim figure"? Are you serious?
He is worried about his own political career. He doesn't care about the Palestinians. He has proven that.
"international pressure" 😜😜😜😜😜😉😉😉😉😉
Warning is like 🙈🙉🙊
This analyst is from Isra block