Does Strength Help in a Fight? Strongman in MMA and Athletic Barriers to Entry
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Many get into strength training because it helps improve performance in other physical tasks. Many strength specialists (powerlifters and gym bros), however, will be over confident in what their strength actually allows them to do, especially when fighting or combat is concerned.
Every sport has a 'barrier to entry' when it comes to performing, meaning you have to have a minimum amount of skill or a minimum amount of physical ability. Here, we use strongman champion and MMA convert Mariusz Pudzianowski as a case study to examine how important strength is in a fight.
I trained a lot of MMA and strength has helped me tremendously in sparring. Strength is a tremendous factor in fighting. Why else would there be weight classes in all combat sports?
Weight is different then strength, for punches or kicks its the speed you can throw your mass that creates power. You can be strong and have small mass and slow speed making no power. Strength definitely helps when wrestling and such although I don't think weight classes and strength are the same thing
Same here
@@BEERU5 What? There are explosive plyometric exercises that'll help you build power even when you lack the size. Your logic is incomplete. You can use your strength to build your power using Plyometrics.
Weight and strength are very different though, correlated? Yes. But not necessarily, doesn't mean you're strong if you're heavy and vice-versa. I'm a very skinny and light dude, but I can bench press 225lbs, which is not very impressive, but considering that I weigh less than 140, it's good.
@@smart-ass8518 because your building the speed portion of the explosive movement there's no replacement for mass x speed = force
Put it this way, if a dudes rocking cauliflower ears, off centered nose and a bull neck, I'm comfortable judging a book by the cover.
Or hes a fighter who gets his ass beat a lot.
@@gertjanfaes5285 Ya but he's got a bulls neck. He's getting beat by other badass fighters. Not your average Joe.
“Or unless you’re fighting 10 year olds.”
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when all else is equal, size and strength are everything
Exactly. This is the point. As he said even in strength sports skill is required and strength alone won't cut it. But if you pick two people equally skilled and make one of them stronger, this one will get better. Charles Poliquin used to talk about this.
Correct to a point however you are neglecting speed/power and endurance
Size and strength are never equated. That's the whole point. You're welcome.
@@johntrains1317 Not particularly
No. Speed and power are everything.
as a 230lb powerlifter I was screwing around with a 190lb purple belt BBJ athlete and my strength only took me so far until he wrapped me up and humbled me very quickly. He was so fast and quick I didn't have time to lunk around and defend myself.
Strength endurance imo is more important than absolute strength
@RED CHUCKS not really fam
@@Bhisma93 nah, not in a street fight. Street fights are all about short explosive moments and hardly ever last more than 2 minutes
@RED CHUCKS That is not a BJJ fight then, that is called MMA, if you got a MMA fighter vs any bodybuilder if that MMA fighter has 4-5 years of training they are beating the bodybuilder any day if the bodybuilder has 0 training.
@@imasealarparparp5321 Street fights usually aren't fair though, in street fights the enemy is going to probably grab some sort of weapon if they are losing the fight or call their friends to gang up on you.
When skill is equal size and strength are everything. When size and strength are equal, skill is everything
Exactly
"A silverback gorilla doesn't need a purple belt to smash your face in" 🤣🤣🤣
So what
@@aliarj574 so skill matters to a certain extent
@@nathaneilfabian4414 but it's a gorilla not a human tf
@@aliarj574 are you really that dumb dude? What he is saying is even if you know martial arts as well as bruce lee there is no way you are beating hafthor bjornsson if you are weak and frail,the strength difference between a gorilla and hafthor bjorsson is the same as you and a strongman so like I said,SKILL MATTERS TO AN EXTENT
@@nathaneilfabian4414 😂
Untrained weight lifter > untrained non weight lifter
Unless the untrained is a damn genetic freak
@@marcosmercedesn then put TRT in the weightlifter
what if the trained person is 140lbs jiu jitsu nerd and the weightlifter is 300lbs jacked on steroids?
@@user-fk8tr5ev8qdepends on how strong the Jijutsu dude is. If it’s low the roided 300 pounder will crush him usually.
Watch BOB Sapp vs Noguiro. It’s a similar scenario.
Someone 140 lb and skilled at fighting might have to prove it now and again, while a relatively lean 220 lb guy who doesn't go looking for trouble is far less likely to find it.
Unless the 140 lbs guy is above 5'10
This. I’m 5’9” 170lbs and I get underestimated a lot. I can bench 250, naturally athletic and wrestled in school but just because I’m small for a dude people feel like they can throw their weight around. Even girls don’t take me seriously lol
@@Annon194 body language can make for size. U can only the best u can. Everyone has flaws. Not every big guy is super confident or a bully.
The 140lb will lose in a fight by the 220 dude even if he is trained. That's a huge weight difference.
@@StrongestKryptonian True, but I wasn't putting them up against one another. I was saying a 140 lb guy who can fight might have to prove it in his day to day like (i.e., against "regular" people), whereas the 220 lb guy would be less likely to have such issues.
The 140 lb guy likely wouldn't be starting anything against the 220 lb trained guy anyway, and the 220 lb trained guy would be able to tell the 140 lb is a trained athlete and would likely be pretty cool and respectful.
Also, what about the psychological advantage of being bigger. People usually won't mess with you just because you are a big guy
Coming from a big guy, I know many other big guys who have gotten by based purely on intimidation. I've lost a few street fights, and they were to smaller guys with faster hands. The only chance a big guy with slow hands (me) stands against a small guy with hands is obviously to use his mass to gain and advantageous position and hope like hell you don't get tagged on the way in. Knowing how to perform basic wrestling takedowns, wrist control, and circling to the opponents back will go a long way.
To your point, its easy to be lulled to sleep as a big guy and get complacent. Don't wanna get caught slippin.
@@HooDRidEWhiteY id love to do wrestling, also cuz i feellike its more mass/strength based than other disciplines, thus would teach me the best way to use my size, but there are no gym in kms
@@disacane8459 I never wrestled in high school. I started learning when I put my kids in youth wrestling and got asked to help coach. Not knowing dick about the sport, I came to RUclips every evening to learn. Then I'd go to practice and roll with some of the newer bigger kids. When I needed an adult to demonstrate something for me in real time I'd get another coach/dad to run the move on me. Im not worth a shit, but at 31yo I know for sure that I'm shooting on someone if I feel their hands might be better than mine. I'll dance for a few seconds and throw a couple but if it gets ugly I'm probably taking it to the ground, but im 285# and strong-ish.
As a 6’5” 235lb guy, I’d say this is true for the most part - however I don’t like fighting and would rather defuse the situation than fight... then again I try hard to not put myself in those situations at all.
@@JosephQPublic i am shortter than you and a lil lighter, but still much bigger than the average 17yo (6ft, 215-220 at 15%) and being this big avoid so many situations. Id love to fight, wrestle in particular, but when it comes to street fights i want to avoid as there would be legal consequences afterwards
I personally got into Strongman because I wanted to improve my body for martial arts. I had a lot of technique but I kept losing to people with no more skill or knowledge than me because they could physically perform at a level beyond me.
Did it help?
This is a great great talk. I started getting into strength training last year to assist with my kickboxing and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. And I found since I put some numbers on my deadlift my shoulder press my squat Etc I really felt it at the gym. I'm able to do well against similarly skilled people and I'm able to hang with even more skilled people. However really really good brown and black belts still demolish me. We have some UFC Fighters at my gym who just Ragdoll on me and there's nothing I can do about it. But the strength does absolutely help. One of the most underrated elements of strength training is the ease at which I can execute technique. Because now if I increase my maximal load submaximal loads become easier and require less effort. So now when I'm training I have to use less effort to execute a technique because I'm executing the technique against an individual whose body weight represents a submaximal load. So I no longer have to focus on effort and I can focus on fluidity and body mechanics. So there actually is a bit of a feedback loop. As I get stronger I also get more technical because I don't have to put as much effort in using that technique in any given scenario therefore I can put more time and energy into focusing on the body mechanics of the technique
Strength training has helped a lot especially in bjj and wrestling.
could you recommend strength training options for a teenager like me?
@@ezra6498start with calisthenics ( push ups , pull ups, sit ups , squats , lunges ), and then as you get stronger you can eventually find a gym to further your gains in strength.
I've trained in boxing/mma since I was 6 (just turned 30) so this was a video I was really hoping for. I would love if you could put together a video on how to apply strength training to combat (or other) sports, because I think as someone without a weightlifting background that is the hardest thing to get info on online. That being said, I ruined my body because I trained at places that didn't value strength, and my joints feel a lot better now that I've been lifting weights for two years and I've added some mass. Used to walk around at 140, now I'm about 160. Btw, the volumizing scheme you mentioned in your truck video (3x12, 5x12, 5x10, 6x8, 8x8) has done wonders for me. I've been doing it since April or May, whenever you posted, and broke through a bunch of plateaus and added about 6 pounds of bw. Increased my overhead press by almost 40%, which is something I long struggled with due to shoulder/jaw injuries.
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@@owlperformance2147 Thanks for the recommendation!
The best fighters in the world all lift weights, both boxers and mma fighters. This is an old school mentality that was in no way optimal.
@RARAYAYA RAA ????????
there is literally a video of Israel benching and doing push press. And Yoel doesn't lift? Dude, c'mon, he has traps that go up to his ears.
@@dblifts8887 lol sometime fighters are just🤦♂️. And its not even fighters, its a bunch of old schoolers boxers. ruclips.net/video/6k2-oHkUV78/видео.html
i guess thats the video youre talking abt, hes clearlu benchin at least 185 and hes lifting hard and heavy. In a contest where skill and stamina are mastered, being stronger is a clear advantage
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Strength is a skill, skill is a strength, but skill will always be the great equalizer in life. You are quite eloquent btw. Now, if only I could be as strong as you.
It absolutely depends on skill, which is an important distinction. I got into strength training to supplement my martial arts performance a few years in. It helped immensely, but the crucial point is that I already had a skill and movement base as a foundation to lay that strength on.
Trying to fight with only strength and no skill base will leave you high and dry, except for a massive difference. However, strength can serve to even the playing field with skill gaps, especially in fights that involve any sort of clinching or grappling. Even though I had 10 years experience to my teacher's 30, having 50 pounds on him and being a lot stronger made sparring a lot less one-sided despite him picking up BJJ in addition to our striking style.
Bob sapp vs ernesto hoost is probably the best example of size and strength completely thrashing a far more skilled fighter
Fantastic comment, I went and watched those fights. Good advert for being a 2m tall monster rather than being skilled.
It's a good thing that there aren't many people who look like Bob Sapp walking around looking to start fights!
that was my thought too.
I mean, granted it was an extreme difference; Sapp had to ahve 100 lbs on Hoost.
Hoost was one of the best ever kick boxers. Bob Sapp was just a "heavy weight"...Sapp won two times. He lost form Aerts, Bonjaski Sefo. in MMA a draw ..Le Banner. Strength + stamina are just some skills of fighting....
Or Pudz vs Gracie.
Your point at 8:40 is really true and not something a lot of guys want to admit. Skill beats size until size becomes too much for skill to handle.
And tbh - when I was doing Muay Thai and MMA as a hobby, I was shocked to see how few guys lifted. Even being able to do things like bench 225, OHP 135 and squat 315 gives you a nice strength advantage against most guys at those places. Technique and conditioning advantages are also important.
Strength definitely helps in a fight. Ofc it isn’t a guarantee to win, but you have a higher chance of beating someone if your stronger than them. It’s one of the 5 cornerstones of fighting ( Strength, Size, Speed, Skill, Stamina )
I'm a 250lb adult male and also a teacher and one of my 11 year old students told me he has a black belt in Kung Fu. Naturally I asked him, "So you can kick my ass, right?" He looked puzzled for a moment and then doubtfully said "I guess so."
Lol yeah, its just like Cobra Ka! Hope you're not still in shutdown purgatory
Lol
Strength matters believe me . I got tapped out by a guy who doesn't know shyt about bjj . It was cross fitters he so fckn strong.
Nice topic man 👍🏽
I’d like to hear more of your thoughts on these types of topics.
this is a really really good video. this should have WAY more views
In a fight skill and experience matters... I've seen giant lifters knocked out by random dudes.... In a fight you are dealing with a human and there are points in your body which no lifting makes strong.. but yes to keep fit and lively u shud lift weights but to be a fighter u need to have real life fights.. a fighter with lifting weight would be an added advantage
As I was building “barbell” strength, my dad, who grew up on a farm loading 50-80 lb hay bales, kept telling me that I was “exercising the wrong muscles”, and I was of 2 minds. I realized that that I wasn’t necessarily building practical strength, but I also became determined to supplement my weight training with hay hauling and trench digging, and managed to gain a balance.
In my first BJJ competition I entered into the absolute category. My opponent was a foot taller and about 50 pounds heavier. He absolutely threw me around but couldn't submit me.
Moral of the story, strength will make it harder for people to beat you. Combine strength and skill.
Bro can we beat 4 inch taller & naturally stronger (not too big in look but strong)..will i have to train legs or deadlift first I feel my lower body dis balanced easily..ive broad decent upper body
Yes, that's why weight classes exist. Good topic chief, you still have broscientists who think their grandad's boxing coach is an authority on ex phys
"No point living if you can't deadlift people off the ring"
Muscles are body armor too.
That being said, when I was in my 30s at a140 lb I had a fight with a 240 bouncer outside a movie theater, playing that Eastwood movie about Alcatraz. We had words inside so it went outside. I literally kicked his ass. I was a blackbelt and a skilled competitor. I chopped him down and finished him off. The whole theater came out to watch.
That was a long time ago with lots of fights and assault charges too. I later got into submission wrestling and these big dudes could curl out of my cross arm bar. So they introduced me to lifting and as I got bigger made others tap out. Forward 30 yrs my 135 lb son who is a Brazilian jujitsu state champion can kick my 220 ass . He can bench 265 and deadlift over 400 too. Strong is better. Big's good too. Just never under estimate anyone. My little wife can kick my ass with just a look !
Cap 😂
@@augustlindenhurst2447 I’m 135 purple belt with 280 deadlift 190 bench. Compared to most big guys, that strength definitely fills in the gap when grappling. Then it just comes down to skill. Want proof just head into your local bjj school
There is no universe that a guy who weights 135 pounds can deadlift 400 pounds. So stop the cap.
@@StrongestKryptonian he possibly means one rep max. Pro boxers I've seen doing one rep max for promos. 2nd generation athletes benefit from the past.
I feel like I never had to go through that phase because in (''olympic'') weightlifting we KNOWWWW that skill can make a HUGE difference. If you have a 500 lbs squat, and I have a 350 lbs squat; but I've been oly lifting for 5 years and you've never done a snatch , I'm outlifting you by as much as a hundred pounds. Doesn't take much brain power to realize the same will happen in a fight.
Strength is never a weakness. Wish that wasn't said by someone I have very little respect for anymore, but it's true.
Mark bell ?
Yes, anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. Let me tell you something: lost my first kickboxing fight due to not training wrestling/clinching (literally resistance/cardio).
Going up against same skilled (sometimes less skilled) but bigger guys in bjj and muay thai, yes strength/size matters 100%
Excellent video! Strength is very important. But you need to combine it with skill and technique. Be as strong as you possibly can be for your weight and size or your weight class…
Its funny you mentioned your delusions about being so strong you could grab someones arm and grind their bones into dust. I trained indonesian martial arts in Washington with a guy in his 70s and he had been doing grip isometric exercises since age 10 about 5 days a week. He only weighed about 150 but with one arm he could grab your wrist at the bone(not muscle tissue) and squeeze so hard that you would tap in less than 2 seconds. It literally felt like your bone was about to snap, like hydraulic machine strength. Reminds me I need to add those in to my other grip work. I have never in my life felt a grip like that in my life and this guy was in his late 70s.
Lol thats exactly what I had imagined! Very specialized type of strength that most top lifters don't posess. Youre more likely to find that in a 150lb old timer like you described than an elite strongman.
@@AlexanderBromleyFunctional strength and muscle quality trumps all size advantages, because it makes you strong in all aspects: Speed, time to top force production, etc that simply growing the size of a muscle can never achieve
A good example is Pedro Sauer vs Lance Batchelor. You can youtube it. It was black belt BJJ vs a Bodybuilder with no fight experience.
The only real issue is you need to be able to keep all that extra muscle oxygenated. Given that skill is on an even level more strength will help up until the point where the lungs and heart can’t keep up. This is something that has actually confused me about both Eddy and Thor, I was kind of expecting them both, or at least one of them to lose more weight than they have. Even muscle mass.
If you watch some of the Pudz fights he either wins early or gasses hard, and that’s one of the best conditioned strongmen ever.
It’s also why most CrossFiters are around 180-210, I think there are a few who are around 220 but carrying all that extra muscle just takes so much extra oxygen that in a story where endurance is very important it’s not worth having the extra 100lbs on their max lifts.
Also lets not forget big muscles doesn’t mean you can take a dry punch to the face
Size and strength matter the most in a no rules, unexpected street fight since there is almost no time for strategy and the fight is usually less than a minute. Professional fighting has such a high element of cardio combined with strategy and weight classes that strength matters a lot less. Also a note that specificity is king when it comes to performance so a big bench doesn't equal a hard punch or the ability to establish and maintain underhooks etc
Love this absolute truth approach.
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When I worked in a factory some for the fit guys were always trying to wrestle me, one of the hardest to beat was a marathon runner as he kept coming I had to sit one him and not let him go lol
What is your thoughts about lifting + fighting try to mix it together when i say lifting i mean strength training
That’s what I do My buddy boxed one kid and the kid got a few hits in once my buddy got that one good hit in it was the end of the fight plus you an take more punches without getting hurt
All fighters do weight lifting
A bear has zero black belts but so much strength and size that it doesn’t need them. I’d like to see a fight between a BJJ fighter and a grizzly bear 😂
Didn’t Khabib wrestle baby bears for training?
@@joshuadawson8202 he did it as a joke against a cub
strength is the most important aspect
Size is, not strength
Helpful Hint: Strength is more helpful in grappling than striking, though both truly favor Power, which can be thought of as (Strength)x(Speed). A hard punch, or a big throw, is how much force you can deliver, times how fast you can deliver it.
Strength is the foundation of everything. Training the right way is all it. Explosive movements heavy lifting with some skill work and conditioning is good
I don’t know why a guy who can bench 405 and can’t run a mile doesn’t know how to throw a hook or sprawl think they can fight
Just actually imagine zydrunas was a fighter
He could definately overhead throw 9/10 people
my first BJJ class ever, I was tapped out 5 times in 5 minutes by a 125 lb 16 year old (I was only 17, but I outweighed him by at least 50 lbs). size and strength almost doesn't matter when there is even a slight skill gap in MMA or grappling
In mma size would matter more than in jiu jitsu. If someone is on top in mma they can smash your face in while you go for a submission. Look at early UFCs. Royce Gracie beat Kimo but was exhausted and couldn’t continue after doing it. Royce was a better fighter than Ken Shamrock but Ken’s size helped him in the second fight.
The best MMA fighters are historically boxers and wrestlers. BJJ is great and all, and crucial to have knowledge in, but it rarely wins fights. Having athleticism and explosiveness with phenomenal wrestling/striking is far more important than BJJ. A black belt isn’t gonna be able to use his BJJ against a much stronger guy with decent boxing because he is going to get brutally knocked out
@@konradsudyka4829 regardless of which martial art you know, its more about technique than strength. guys in the UFC are masters of many martial arts, each being important parts of fighting. without knowing BJJ, you will get tapped out most of the time no matter how good your boxing is, just like you will get KOd more often if you aren't a good boxer and you engage in that game. strength is a skill and is very important too, its just less important than technique. a gap in technique has a large effect as does a large gap in strength
stackered I am not trying to discredit skill, of course it’s massively important. But strength is the ultimate equalizer. This is why weight classes exist. Mariusz Pudzianowski is nowhere close to as skilled as Khabib Nurmagomedov, but mariusz could probably end his life in 2 minutes or less
Meh. Maybe. I’m a one stripe white belt and I’m 250 very strong. I regularly dominate blue belts and hold my own with brown belts. My technique is minimal.
How big was the gap in strength with your friend? Were you like three times as strong? I would then question how skilled he was, if he was a pro or had several years training and you were barely a bit stronger than him i can understand the outcome but especially in wrestling i dont see strength athletes losing against like a 65kg oponent unless theyre pros. Very solid points, I'm thinking of starting to learn muay thai just to know it, however for self defence i think guns are best.
Stenght a little but mostly its momentum and speed. A 200 pound guy at 4.4 speed is way more deadly than a 225 guy who is just ok fast
Yes but not every can be very skilled in bjj. Eg some guys are are good at wrestling and other guys are very good at striking, hard to be excellent in both. Wrestlers tend to be more muscular and do more lifting as it's less cardio intensive.
Brian Shaw could beat Dustin Poirier but he would not have a chance against Ngannou or a LHW
You are absolutely correct here.
Strength does certainly help. It helped Brock Lesnar lift Undertaker
Off the mat and break hells gate plus give him the strength to perform 3- f5s which allowed Brock to win and end the streak
strength is very important in a fight, but when your as big as you are i don't know if you can actually fight, you look like you'd have a hard tome moving. but i don't know if an average guy would bother to mess with you or could even hurt you. wrestling is probably your strong point.
Oh a topic from the community forum , nice
Obviously strength is a big part of fighting otherwise if it was all just technique woman could beat men 50 percent of the time. However strength is only one part of the equation. The other parts are speed, dexterity and technique. If you only have strength and nothing else UNLESS you’re fighting an opponent that your strength advantage is rly big over you will lose if you don’t have some of the of the other three pieces of the pie. So obviously a 270 pound strong man would beat Valentina Schevchenko but not a heavyweight man who has some strength to close that strength gap and then also has much better speed, dexterity and cardio than the strong man. The ultimate fighter is as strong as possible but without sacrificing too much cardio, speed and dexterity due to it. A la heavy weight Jon Jones is the ultimate fighter.
The exception you had for 1D sports like running or jumping, that vastly underestimates technique in those sports.
I was wondering how this might play out with Eddie and Thor. I think the whole fight scenario between them is stupid, but I'm wondering if Eddie, for example, is spending too much energy on strength as of now. (That certainly could change over time.) He doesn't seem to want to cut any more weight at this point either.
I think a wrestling match would have been better for such monsters
A cool video would be why strength helps conditioning more than conditioning helps strength.
Kama Jiu-Jitsu guys have done a great analysis on this.
Very insightful video.
It helps a lot
Why would most men win a fight against most women? Because men are way stronger than women. Being strong is one of the most important things in a street fight.
I think muscle makes u get tired alot quicker....alot of regular ppl dont have a fight i.q. they think watching it equates to fighting...if u take 10 ppl off the street and tell them to hit a nag or mitts or throw a punch at a combat mannequin ..i guarantee u can manuever
Skill, strength and aggression is what chewiejutsu said
Skill gets you far for sure but if your opponent is twice your weight you can’t can’t typically do enough damage for it to matter
big z would win no question
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What about strength vs endurance in a competition fight and how that translates into a real fight?
when you’re used to streetfighting you don’t need martial
arts. most martial
artists aren’t even used to get injured like in a streetfight.
bjj is overrated
and
nobody fights on the floor in the streets! you on the floor you’re as good as finished.
A lil
basic boxing knowledge and strength+size + aggression always wins on the streets
Eddie hall is the best example
Thank you sir 🙏😊
Would strength be an advantage for a medium sized powerlifter fighting against untrained average Joe? Another question: would strength be an advantage for a 75 kg powerlifter fighting a 120 kg average Joe ( assuming Joe does not lift and is weaker then powerlifter but heavier)?
He likely has some naturally powerful all round strength. But if you are atleast intermediate level you should be able to beat him in a grapple/wrestle with just your good core and back strength:)
@@OmniSpiritt Thanks for your answer.
The greatest words said " it don't mean dick " 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Strength is most important. I play boxing and what helps me most is strength. I win due to strength of my punch.
Liar
@@Demetrius416 skills and style doesn’t make you win alone. Fitness and strength is what makes you win.
What about training for strength endurance and speed of recovery between sets? Given the nature of strongman as a sport (I'm speaking of AMRAP in fixed amount of time events), what is your experience with doing strength-endurance stuff? What are your recommendations? In my experience with trying to progress basic calisthenics movements keeping the amount of reps static at a moderate number (say half of max) while progressing volume through adding sets every week works well. It took me from being stuck at 16 pull ups for years to doing 20 in like 4 months. But it's time consuming as fuck to train this way. Say I want to be able to do a lot of push ups in an unbroken set, or a lot of sit-ups as fast as possible (which I do), what would be your recommendation? What about endurance over repeated efforts? How is it that some people take way less time to recover from a hard set to the point of being able to go again, even if they exerted themselves equally hard? Why does one person spend an hour in the gym while another spends three, doing the same sets and reps at the same percentage?
I suggest you trying the 20 rep squat routine, its amazing, builds up strength and endurance. Bromley has a video about it.
I know certain training protocols for improving endurance for exercises(for example can use pull ups) maybe every Monday do 5 sets of pull-ups last set do a dead hang and then Wednesday maybe just do half the reps you can do in all out set through our day and throw in other exercises like chin-up shoulder exercises and then maybe Friday set a timer for 10 mins and do as much as possible and every wk try to improve by making lil more difficult
Among guys its probably got to do with conditioning. Women seem to recharge faster and can scream through a workout in less time.
Check out Greg Nuckols' Stronger By Science website. He might have a lead on the info you're looking for.
@@BigBlueJake I can run a 40 minute 5 mile which isn't blazing fast but it doesn't suck and I generally do cardio more times per week than I actually lift. So I don't think aerobic conditioning is what's holding me back.
@@smolkafilip It's your anaerobic conditioning that might be the difference. HIIT usually increases that, or directly training the heavy loaded stuff.
Good aerobic conditioning probably contributes more to your between-workout recovery.
Very well said 👍🏼👍🏼
Those who still say that strength is not important in any fight is insane. Strength is needed even on buying groceries. Come on.
Strength helps of course.... provided you already know how to fight. But the best powerlifter in the world still gets KOd by a mediocre boxer with average lifts
@@AlexanderBromley boxers actually use steroids and PEDS to become stronger than their opponent however illegal. That is how they emphasize strength.
I get started on cuz I am small taking up boxing and bjj
Bjj guy with black belt- I have 10 years of experience and technique is more important.
Powerlifter with 1 year mma grappling training - hi man
Bjj guy- stay away from me
Fedor has entered the chat
Good video!
the biggest thing about fights is that they should be avoided. thats how you win. and besides that you should be armed as to ensure victory should a physical altercation be unavoidable. always carry and be able to handle what your enviroment requires. in texas that means a gun, because all the criminals and many others have them. guns breed guns. here in denmark, guns are rare so i would opt for pepperspray, knife, tazer or something like a baton of sorts. most are "illigal" but thats bs and should be ignored. you are carrying hidden anyways.
wrestling and neutralization techniques are far far more important than boxing or kicking. because those are for attack and can easily hurt you or them severely. in most cases you need to just neutralize a drunkard, or hurt another enough to stop them fighting back. thats way more useful with wrestling in an unarmed setting, which most civilized places are.
And you ahve your weapon should it turn out to be an armed criminal of a severe danger level that must be stopped even if it is through death.
Size, strength and intimidation factor is the most important in many situations, because it usually prevents anyone from even starting shit in the first place AND strength and size play an ENORMOUS role in wrestling, far more than in other fighting styles. Sure mike tyson would beat a huge dude in boxing, but if they ever got a good grip on him, no rules, they would dominate him if they were much bigger and stronger. "bodybuilding" is actually a pretty decent if not ideal workout for wrestling. its bad for striking, but in nature, striking is not a thing, wrestling is. striking is unnatural, in nature you cannot afford a broken hand and you wont hit skulls if you arent wearing gloves, at least far less so, just look at old school boxing style. wrestling is far far more ingrained in our instincts, as with many other mammals. so an average male vs a pro wrestler, would be much much closer than the same expirience difference between boxers. Which is why you see large men who is a bit above average but still "untrained" wrestlers, almost dominate prowrestlers of a smaller size, where that would not occur if the setting were an "artificial" boxing match with points and where wrestling werent allowed etc.
take mma, the most real marchall art, remove the gear and the restriction on dirty tactics, and suddenly all the striking and kicking becomes far less viable, especially if you are not allowed modern medical aid afterwards, and therefore have to be much more careful about your risk analysis in terms of "winning". look at wolves and tigers, they are VERY avert to fighting in general due to this, tigers more than lions, because they are solitary hunters and thus are far far more vulnable if injured than a lion in a pack is, especially if its a female, whom does not have to "stay on top" to be in the pack, unlike the male alpha, which is also part of why the alpha hunts less than the females.
Even if we only look at modern city dwelling matrix life, wrestling is still much better, for all the reasons above, but also because head hitting and even minor injuries to the skull is increasingly bad because iq and cognitive abilities become more and more valuable both in professions and because of longer lifespans. although injuries to the foot are also detrimental to the whole body and brain, if it makes cardio much harder for you indefinetly. i do believe that bodily injuries in wrestling are also much lower than in striking/kicking sports, or contact sports in general, including american football especially.
Of course if you are on a very very high level and will get compensated financially enough to justify some level of risk. the picture is different. but that is irrelevant for all amateurs, and all "pros" who will not be able to "retire" after a few fights, monetarily. and it also depends on the level of advancement in medical technology that would even allow you to "throw money at an injury to nullify or cure it". This at least in some part, justifies the increase in head impact in modern mma and boxing compared to old time boxing. because modern medicin raises the bar for what constitutes a serious, permanent or fatal headinjury considerably. but only so much. and i would say in many cases, it seems pro fighters are risking more than the avaible tech "allows for/justifies". But again, the question is imcomparable between amateurs, civilians, and high level pros who are sure to get fortunes from just one fight alone. The inbetween levels are often a sad risk to reward story.
Francis Ngannou
The odds of someone from an MMA gym actually starting shit with someone are also almost 0 I’m assuming, so there’s also that lol
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What do you make of the guys who think that McGregor could have actually beaten a prime Hafthor in a street fight when they see that video here on RUclips of them pretending to fight?
I honestly think you could have gone either way.
And anyone over middleweight would absolutely demolish him.
@@AnthonyMazzarella Even with the almost 300 pound weight advantage Hafthor had (at his peak) over a fighting-shape McGregor? I've seen what happens in the Bob Sapp fights were he had a weight advantage much less than that, at some point the weight and strength difference becomes too much to deal with.
@@Sealed_Chamber you saw old Sapp not full on PrideFC sapp. Look up him vs Nogueira. Also look up his kickboxing match versus Ernesto hoost
@@AnthonyMazzarella I was arguing in favor of Sapp, I was saying how he was successful in many matches simply because of his enormous size and weight, not skill, and was drawing a parallel to Hafthor, who had around 100 pounds or so on Sapp when he was at his peak weight.
@@Sealed_Chamber ohhh yeah. Sapp was a beast
Mariusz Pudzianowski
Tell that to mr oliver
LOL @silverback reference with entry level skills
I used to lift weight but once I started boxing I changed the way I lift. Weight training more for my boxing is on neck strengthening, shoulder strength, abs etc. I need to spend more time on skills and conditioning needed for boxing. Also being leaning for boxing helps with my speed and stamina. Weight training should match what you need. When I played football in high school did a lot of lifting every bit of it helped.
It doesn’t help unless you’re abnormally large like Thor but other than that it’s not really a help
Real wrestlers know it’s just a mindset 😎 I think you just want to be well rounded if your big and you gas out in 10 seconds it means nothing if your fast but you have no physicality your fucked but if your both your explosive and you’ll have crazy power to move people that’s you need to have skill if you don’t practice how can you get good but at the end of the day I think the most important thing really is your mentality
Then why is there weight classes?
There is a spectrum of strength . I
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If strength didn't matter why not fight a silverback gorilla? After all "strength don't matter. It's all good.
Speed beats raw strength
good but not perfect ... u cant build a huge amount of both skill and strength together its like be big and fast or small and strong no shit ,that's why all pro fighters make balance between all attributes u cant take everything u take one thing extreme u lose another automatically cause its not all about know the skill rather than how to apply it correctly.
helps you not get into one which is cool by me 9/10 people will not want to fight you but the ones who do are either good or stupid
So if you bring your bench press from 60kg to 150kg you have advantage in fighting but to get it even higher will not bring more and more advantage in fighting, striking power. So from 150 to 200 kg bench press is not so much fighting power like the 60kg to 150kg gap