Charlie's former Hygienist: What He's Really Like
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- Welcome to another episode of Surviving The Survivor, the podcast that brings you the #BestGuests in all of true crime.
In this episode, Surviving The Survivor Host Joel Waldman talks to Hygienest "KaCee" about what Charlie Adelson was really like.
Charlie Adelson was convicted to life in prison without parole for the murder of his ex brother-in-law, Dan Markel. Dan Markel was a divorced FSU professor who was dealing with custody issues with his ex-wife, Wendi Adelson (Charlie's sister), when Dan was shot and killed. It was a murder for hire. Now that Charlie Adelson and Donna Adelson (Wendi's mother) are both behind bars, former friends and colleagues are coming forward to share their stories.
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I am also, and we know how much pain she was in from surgery and lymph nodes being taken out. He is so right. God bless❤️🙏🏻
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Thank you for the tips. Also, a survivor sister.
Yes very true!
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Retired dentist here and JC is spot on in her descriptions of a dental office. The Hygienists and Assistants know when a dentist is doing good work and when he isn’t. She provides great insights into Charlie as a dentist and as a person. Thanks for having her on the podcast!
He was using his dad achievements, the clinic was created by the father. May be the other dentists were good professionals and created a good reputation. He felt entitled to float over people's hard work.
@@rumin528It was said that Charlie was not a good student of dentistry he didn't do his course work or his homework or anything in school. And he couldn't pass the license board but his daddy knew somebody on the board and they just went ahead and passed him. I guess his daddy took him on his way and told him it didn't work!!
I too have a jaw and nerve damage from a bad dentist in 1995, trying to remove an impacted wisdom tooth. Never seen a dentist that had to stand on the chair I was sitting in in order to remove my impacted wisdom tooth. Would not put me to sleep or give me any gas, just numbed it like he was pulling a regular tooth. Blood was everywhere and it traumatized my 5-year-old at the time.
Because he had a ski trip he was supposed to go to and would not send me to an oral surgeon he wanted to make the money himself. Yes he was telling you this all the time I was there. I should have sued!!
There should be a hot line for hygienist to anonymously report to. Too many Dr's are over looked 😢
@@rumin528And while in jail and recorded, you hear the "black sheep mama's boy" say, his "achievements" were done all on his own, nobody helped him!!" LoL 😂
Not sure but I think it’s KC
I did notice on Charlie's calls that he'd say, "I'm in surgery". I'd think, what? I don't ever want my surgeon to step out for a phone call. that's horrible. She just confirmed him taking calls during surgery.
I've been following cases, trials and true crime since Oj so I'm not new to this genre. The thing that drew me to this case was the great father that Dan was. As a single parent it would've been a dream of mine to have a father like Dan for my child. So sad for his boys. Their own mother robbed them of such a great influence. Can't wait until they come for Wendi!
@@HelenSqueamishwow, you have opened my eyes, all objectified! I couldn’t comprehend how Donna could care and love the boys and not see how precious their dad was to them. But now I begin to understand…objects. You nailed it.
I agree, waiting for justice!
AMEN
My thought too. I raised three boys, how badly they needed a father who loved and cared for them. Dan was a wonderful father.
How cruel!
A great choice of interviewee. Clearly an intelligent woman of integrity. 🇬🇧
Charlie keeps asking "why would Wendy go near Trescot?" He sounds so shocked that she would go near there. IMO, him getting so upset about this detail makes me think Wendy knew. IMO
Did he not listen to the other trials?
Man id I was in their shows I would have been there in person!
Three trials and he acts like he just found out this information at his trial. #4
He was saying “she couldn’t help herself” “she just couldn’t help herself” - she absolutely knew and he’s tossing her in front of the bus to the prosecutors who are listening to those recordings long before us.
God bless this lady. What a great guest. She has brought a lot of great insight into the mind of a murderer.
He is clueless obviously and a narcissist. Glad this lady survived. Charlie is where he needs to be.
Great show. Thanks y’all.
I 100 percent believe Charlie and the adelsoms are guilty...but I do not think he is a serial killer..he is an awful person for example what he said to kc about the hair Comment. I'm sorry kc for what he said to you. I ,however, do not think he is a serial killer...do some of you believe that he would kill again??
He is a true narcissist!! Donna created that!! That’s why he never married
These people are disgusting the best thing to happen now would be consequences for all the Adelson’s . What’s left is the sad consequences left for Dan’s children I pray they find their way in this world . Their foundation has been shattered in so many ways .
God bless these boys may their hearts guide them through their paths in life .
@@daybyday0731 If he would have gotten away with it, it is likely that he would have the confidence to do it again if someone irritated him enough- just my opinion.
@@HelenSqueamish I actually stated something similar without reading your comment first. :)
Personally I think Charlie set it all up but at Wendi’s request! Wendi is the mastermind behind all of this and everyone is covering up for her!
idk, I believe that Wendi was complicit in the planning and murder, but I think that it was Charlie and Donna who started it all. Katie testified that CA told her that DA was so stressed about the divorce and relocation that she couldn’t eat or sleep. Charlie was a momma’s boy and they talked constantly throughout the day. I believe Charlie and Donna came up with the plan and WA’s involvement came later.
could be, either way they are a very disturbed family and hope they all get what's coming to them. @@lorileederks239
Most definitely!
@@lorileederks239Charlie also talked a lot to Wendi too, the entire TV thing was to let her know it's already in place
This lady is SO BRAVE, so insightful and so CORRECT. God bless her!❤
I agree! Bless her❤ I love this channel!
Binge watching and I must say this was an outstanding interview! Ole boy Charlie wrote his own prescription to prison.
The main piece of evidence that tells me Harvey knew everything is when Donna first called Charlie after the “ Bump” & Donna is telling Charlie “ This TV is going to cost 5”…
Charlie asks Donna….” Did you tell Dad yet” ?
If Harvey was kept in the dark about the murder he never would’ve asked that question.
every time i hear 'this tv cost 5'...
i hear the song 'your sex is on fire'...
"This tv is going to cost 5' The tv in relation to Dan Markel was his death, yes, no? Was DA saying getting rid of the person is gonna cost 5? I believe HA knew from beginning. The day after Dan passed. Dan's friend, Tamara, went over to WA's house and she said HA behavior was different; he could not look her in the eye.
@@amc2510 l thought l read somewhere that Harvey was taped saying to Donna about how sick he was feeling about something, or that he couldn't sleep he was so anxious or felt guilty, prior to the arrest. It sounded to me like a man wrestling with his conscience.
@@Bearwithme560 I recall that convo DA telling CA that his dad was sick all night and just fell asleep at 5:30 that am and he called off to work. Tamara knew HA to be kind and welcoming and found his behavior very suspect at WA's the day after Dan passed. Plus she said there were two women with WA and they didn't let Tamara be alone with WA.
@@amc2510 CA wasn’t sure what she was talking about. It had been 2 years since the murder. I think when DA said “ This TV is going to cost 5” it was her letting CA know that it had to do with Dan’s murder & they were asking for $5k.
As a dentist he was so used to people lying to him about flossing that he thought he could get away with lying about the murder.
Lol
lol but a dentist can tell if you are lying about that. At least I hope they can.
😂😂
😂🤣😂
Bad analogy buddy.
That poor 14 year old boy. I hope they sued him. My sons had a traumatic event with a dentist and also with a hygienist. It was absolutely horrible and painful. 😢
I am freaking out about that story!! as far as I know, all licensed healthcare providers are mandatory reporters of abuse!!! how could people see this and not reported to the Florida board of licensing?? I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if that kid had PTSD from that experience!! And he’ll probably never want to go to a dentist again!! great that’ll be really good for his health since the health of your mouth affects your entire body, especially your cardiovascular system. What Charlie did there is so wrong.!! he deserves what he gets in prison
I had a traumatic dental procedure when I was young too and now to hear these actions were totally inappropriate makes me feel I suffered unnecessarily and have anxiety at every dental visit for the last 30 years. Ugh
@@kelliekriss2131 :( that's awful. I'm sorry
@@kelliekriss2131same happened to me and now I am a wreck when I have to go to dentist
@@kelliekriss2131My son was just two and had to have blood drawn. It took two nurses and me to hold him still. To this day he hates needles and vaccines. Of course, he copes, but that experience traumatized him. Sorry you went through that.
I absolutely do not think its anywhere near time to move on from the Adelson family. Certainly not when there are still two identified killers out free. This is a toxic family so self center ed they turned to murder to get what they want. This is worse than the scary gangs. These are the people many never see coming.
49:45 She nailed it! He was writing a lot of prescriptions for others and himself. He strikes me as someone who relied heavily on self-medication.
It must be very uncomfortable being in his skin: I'll imagine he was on stuff for that reason. (I'm also a recovering addict/alcoholic for 26 years. )
The "Xanax " family according to jail phone recordings...
Hope he didn't cry to much when he had to detox them pharmaceutical drugs are wicked especially if you abuse them full family deserve jail if they didn't have money they would of got charged years ago
I wish Wendi would go with them but I'm sure she's suffering now looking back thinking how she helped ruin her family. I bet she wish she never cried to her family so much about every single thing.
This lady is so believeable and straight up
This is how I feel about Wendi and her desire to be a good attorney. She only wanted to become an attorney for social status, and could give a damn about the justice system and the history of our legal system.
Yea and jealous over Dan
@@jeanleigh185 Dan was only a title to Wendi, a Harvard Grad. Attorney who would surely wind up partner in a Big Law firm. Her plans of being in lifestyles of the rich and famous came to a halt when it became evident that Dan had a passion for teaching. That’s my opinion …
You literally have no idea the reason that she wanted to become a lawyer.....🙄
bottom line Charlie is a killer and a terrible dentist 🎉🎉🎉🎉 thats all folks !!!!
@@astrialindah2773 literally, my opinion …
Law enforcement knows a lot of the answers to the questions that were mentioned, so just hold your horses, and as Georgia states “ stay tuned “.
Say hello to Wendi ! We know she’s watching !!!
Can't wait til they arrest wendy
@@beverleywhiteaker355 …. I knowwwww ! Wish we could have an on line party when that happens.
@@doneldamacdonnell8602 yes! Great idea, champagne is ready 4 that day!
One of the best, if not the best, interview from first-hand knowledge of Charlie. Thank you!
After hearing this woman, I HATE Charlie Adelson and have zero sympathy for him. I don't think he is that dumb. He is mean and arrogant and deserves to rot in prison.
So is his sister!!!! I HATE her more!!!!!!!
Those big brothers in prison will turn him "every which way but lose"!
@@Holly-bm1sfHate only consumes the hater.
The arrogance of expecting staff to carry his suitcase of tools out the car. Unbelievable!!
The bigger they are (or think they are) the harder they fall.
Thank you Joel and COE. Hearing about Charlie from a co&worker's point of view is so interesting.
I have never heard anyone voice concerns over the children of the two parents that are also in jail, the children of Charlie's ex-girlfriend and the gang member. I think we also need to remember that those children are now father and motherless! It's just such a sad event that has shattered so many lives and so many children will always be without their parent/s due to Wendy and Donna's need to always have their way with everything in life.
Both gang members have children😢 but Rivera’s @ least have their mom on the outside. Poor Sigfredo’s have lost both. 😞
STS has mentioned the impact on the other children many times.
They have, in fact, been mentioned as victims multiple times.
All started by katherine ban?? Her partner, his friend, herself,charlie aldeson. 4 people and one innocent father dead, for what, greed,!!
It has been spoken of numerous times. Kids are better with non gang members for parents.
This woman is on fire. Her story is great!
Any man who "put me on his lap" I would regard as truly seedy, NOT charming.
Absolutely. Gross!!
Absolutely!
Yes exactly. Grabby men are a total turn off; if you're not dating them, they shouldn't be touching you.
Thank you to this guest for relaying painful situations. We appreciate you taking the time with your insights.
This was an excellent episode. Your guest is really shedding a lot of light on how horrible Charlie Adelson is - I mean he's evil through and through.....
Hearing about him hurting that kid made my solar plexus twinge.
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Wait, so KC had BREAST CANCER SURGERY and he wanted her to carry heavy things to the car??? Y’ know surgery like that can involve a lot more than just the breast. There is deep dissection to get it all the lymph nodes and cutting of chest muscles. Omg, he is just too much
And he was a big, tall, steroid taking man. Yet he wanted the lady with cancer to carry his heavy stuff. Such a gentleman.🤦🙄
First of all Happy New Year from Canada! Thank you STS for covering this story with such elegance. When I listened to what the lady at the end of the wonderful event with Ruth M and guests commented on how Donna spoke to her just confirms how evil Donna and this family truly is. Kind and caring people do not speak this way to others!
Exactly, being kind, smiling, doesn't cost anything. Happy New Year, from Florida!
Dear guest of the show, thank you so much for telling us your story.
This case has been on my mind for the longest time, ever since the first episode of Dateline or 20/20 aired.
Charlie is a fascinating character and he is exactly where he belongs.
Excellent interview
I enjoyed listening to this show...this woman is smart and glad she spoke out...nice to hear non BS...TY
You can tell by the jail calls that Charlie answered to his mother, and dad was just someone who cleared up all the mess he made most of his life 😅
@@grandmaida7819
Dr. G is an amazing guy. I don't run around saying things like this to random strangers, but I think his wife's very fortunate.
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Thanks to your guest for being willing to speak out. Great show!
Thank you for your diligence in covering the murder of a good man, Dan. Health and happiness to you Miss Judy in 2024.
I bet Charlie cannot stand that all these people are coming out and telling these things.
If KayCee is here reading comments I just want to express how sorry I am that he spoke to you that way. I thought I couldn’t think any less of him until I heard your story. I hope you are doing well, you are very strong.
I’m at the very beginning and it blows my mind that Charlie thinks he is so great with the women. I find him not to be good looking at all and his arrogance is even worse.
He had $ and found needy women.
It's about the money!
If a man is charming he doesn’t have to be the most attractive. If he was arrogant that would cancel out his charm for me.
He looks like Edgar Allen Poe to me, lol. Not attractive.
knowing that Charlie had such a bad reputation why would any of these dentists employ him?
Because they are just at as bad as he is. They take money and can't do the work. Charlie is piece meal .
I enjoyed hearing a first-hand account of Charlie's behavior in a professional setting. This lady is no-nonsense and absolutely believable. I'm not surprised at his behavior toward all the other employees in the office, but his behavior toward that 14-year-old boy was child abuse. I can assure you that we would have taken action against Charlie if that was our son. This interview was very enlightening, and I hope she has convinced any of he Charlie supporters that may be on the fence. I wish K.C. all the best.
The Officer recognizing Wendi on that Street is awesome. Bet he to wondered why!!!
Thanks for sharing. I have stage four metastatic breast cancer. Your story gives me hope. I’m so sorry for the way “the dentist” treated you
Joel, the psychology of the Adelson family, KC and Mr. Ross, to help understand how this criminal family ticks. What would cause a seemingly mainstream normal family resort to murder! How Doctor's Psychologists, Psychiatrists, Criminalogilists are appreciating these last few episodes, is invaluable. It is for me.
Katie said to Sigfredo ‘I know’ when he called to tell her it was done.
I think Katie and Sigfredo are protecting Wendi. Katie refused full immunity twice.Something smells fishy, and how did these two defendants [KM/SG] afford their lawyers? I think allroads lead back to Wendi.
That’s probably because Wendi drove by and saw it before police got there and called Katie (from a burner phone)!
STS Nation, KC, COE, Joel, STS groupies, good afternoon. It's chilly and rainy in Key West. I appreciate your hard work. I enjoyed your guest Mr. Ross very much. He tells it like he sees it!
Awesome show! Thank you Kc for all your insight ❤
STS hits it out of the park again. Excellent guest who shared her first-hand experience with Charlie. She is intelligent, sincere, and fair. Love this channel for this and so many other reasons. ❤️
Thank you, KC, for sharing.
You asked questions we pondered Joel 🙏 thank you! You’re the best!
Gigi from @prettyliesandalibis reported that there was a 2 year court battle with Charlie for child support and to provide insurance for his son. The court battle included proving paternity.
Right and now, when he’s on the phone with Bree he’s like oh I love Roman. When apparently before he wanted to deny his existence, I’m sure because he didn’t want to pay up.
She gets the real facts.
@@katrinat.3032 Or it said something about the women he hooked up with where being a parent could be disputed.
I find myself breathing sighs of relief FOR the people he will never have the power to say hurtful things to or bother again. I feel for them! The worst kind of stupid person is the one who believes he's a genius.
Thank you for preparing videos to air during your absence. Much appreciated!
Another fascinating interview! Thanks Joel! And to your great guest, thank you!
Thank you KC Great Job.
Awe.. Joel said Perseverating! I remember him being surprised he'd heard a word he wasn't familiar with & now he's using it!👏👏 See, learn, do... Love it.❤
Amazing show!! Thank you for having this guest on! 💯
Great show. Thankyou KC for your insight.
Great interview. Thanks Joel!
I believe charlie was not smart enough to become a dentist on his own . Harvey was part of the group of dentists involved in establishing the dental school that charlie attended. No doubt Harvey did this so he could use influence to get charlie accepted to dental school.
Wait, what?
I believe that has been verified as the truth.
Harvey definitely paid some one off.
I’ve thought this all along. I’ve taught in schools where certain students were always given As because their parents had clout or rank. “Do you know who his/her parents are?”
@@salliegallegos918yes, absolutely true. I have both, firsthand and secondhand knowledge, this is widespread, and true.
Sounds like tRump and his daddy 🙄
Thank you covering this story STS nation ! 🙏 Greting from Denmark 🇩🇰
A periodontist is miles under an oral surgeon who can perform way more types of surgeries like jaw reconstruction etc.
The point was not who is the most highly skilled, she identified to Joel that he was considered a surgeon compared to a GP Dentist. Joel didn't realize that a Periodontist performed surgeries.
Excellent interview. Great insight into Charlie's character.
Great show!! I’m obsessed with the case😮
Thanx for providing this authentic view, KC.
Thanks for providing this insight into how Charlie is when he isn't lying to a jury.
This was really interesting. Thank you Joel and thank you to the guest.
Great interview!
God bless this woman! 🙏
Good questions STS!! Loved the flow of this conversation, you’ve got skills
Love your channel Joel...Thank you so much
Glad you enjoy it!
Joel you actually have the best coverage in this case ...IMO anyway.
Greetings from the Republic of Ireland 🍀
This is so fascinating! So glad this woman stepped forward. Thank you!
Wow I almost didn’t get on tonight but sure glad I did! I’ve been wondering so much about this, about how Charlie was as a dentist and if the patients were happy with his work. I had a feeling it was going to be negative smack about him, but not oh boy this guest is extremely enlightened us with such huge knowledge on Charlie’s job! Great videos! Thank you STS … Happy New Year ! 2024
Justice for Dan Markel
First impressions of this first meeting is insightful…Charlie has no boundaries
Excellent guest...I have so much more insight in to Charlie now.....thank you!!
Awesome guest! Thanks for having her on. Happy new year.:)
New subscriber. This interview was absolutely fascinating. I especially like listening to the questions and answers. She gave us a lot of information. Thank you to both of you. 👍
A sincere dialogue. Health and happiness to Mr. Joel and especially to KaCee.
Another great guest Joel, thanks!🇺🇸
Great show as usual❤
Brilliant Podcast!! Thankyou Guys
Thanks for speaking up "kc". Take care and keep being the good person that you are.
Great show!
Wow. GREAT point about driving by as mom and seeing the street blocked off for a crime scene when your kids live on taht street with dad. VERY good point.
Great show tonight! I loved your guest.
KC, as s Psychologist, Charlie's romantic, intimate relationships. These girlfriend's aren't the most academic, intellectual gal's. From much lower social/economical circles. And these people ate it up, connections, monetarily, prestige. Charlie was adored, unreasonably, blindly, by the social company he chose to keep. People of his level of education, socially, dont fine him as a Maestro, and more buffoon-like. Agree?
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So so interesting!! Love this channel and the amazing guests that continue to be interviewed with such insight! Thanks so much STS team!
Thank you to your guest for sharing her personal experiences.
Joel, just the best although the leading podcasts were ace, this was superb. Thanks Casey for your courage to attend and speak your truth. Thank gawd, the Adelson's are going down, 2 already down. Finally justice for Dan and the Markel Family.
Thanks again Joel!
Super interesting interview!
KC is wonderful. Great interview, Joel. You DO get the best guests!
Joel - in a newbie here ! I love all these interviews ! Amazing stuff ! You just can’t make this stuff up ! Thank you ! And waiting for full justice for Dan Markel & the Markel family !!
Great guest and interview, as always. 👍🇬🇧
Very good interview. It was great listening to her insight after having spent time around Charlie. Nothing about him surprises me in the least!
From someone with 16 tooth implants, thank you KC.
You said probably THE most IMPORTANT point in the “emotionality factor” in the equation that equals Dan Markel’s brutal murder. Wendi, Charlie nor Donna was shocked, stunned, frightened, or crazed into pulling a gun and shooting a family member IN THE HEATED EMOTIONS OF THE MOMENT. Understandable murder: Some guy walks in on his partner in a serious amorous position(y/t friendly) with his best friend, he pulls out a gun and shoots them dead. Not understandable murder: paying someone to kill a person that you don’t like or is a nuisance… with plenty of time and many times available to change your mind.
My son had a panic attack when his dentist tried to extract a molar, because he was not an oral surgeon, the patient does not get put to sleep. our dentist is our friend, and was kind and helpful and stopped immediately and said we need to get you to the oral surgeon. what a horrible situation, it really says everything about Charlie on every level.
I love this woman it’s great to hear hear point of view Thankyou so much for appearing on this show ❤love from New Zealand 🇳🇿
Anxiously waiting!!
Happy New year to all the STS nation. Great show Joel and thank you to your great guest. Wishing her well and good health in the future.
Great interview
Great episode!!!!