The diameter of the fuselage and the length of the MS-21 are larger. The capacity in terms of the number of passengers is greater and the commercial load is also higher. The speed is higher. At the same time, the aircraft having 10% less fuel flies 7% less distance. Of course, I know that the PD-14 showed even better performance than it was claimed, and better than the PW-1400. But such data show that the PD-14 is a revolution in the aircraft industry. Let's see what happens in practice. Very promising. Well, the fact is, the MS-21 has a completely black wing, here the A320Neo has lagged behind.
@@sgp.kudensama It is unlikely that the MS-21 was born to compete outside of Russia. No one will give up a piece of European or American pie to the Russians. We are not talking about fair competition at all. Realizing this, the Russians make this aircraft primarily for their domestic consumption. Of course, anyone who dares to prefer the MS-21 to the Airbus will not be refused. But I don't think there will be many of them, because we all know how global corporations are able to put pressure on their current and hypothetical customers.
the greatest advantage of the MC-21 is this, if you dont want sanctions to your aeronautic sector: buy it rusia is way more dependable than USA or EUROPE.
Sanctions are costing the EU a fortune, the last one, a proxy economic war with Moscow depleted EU member states for over 240 billion, sanctions are not free, they cost money, big money.
@@darkofius Now, the EU says they need to do something for themselves to establish independent from the two sides. I mean, I support it and so do many people, I always supported a third-neutral party.
@@Parallex001 The EU is not independent, the EU is a vassal of the USA, alas, there is no third-neutral party! Undermining the Northern streams by the USA and the UK it was a demonstrative wiping of dirty shoe soles about the European Union as if the European Union is a rug in the hallway of USA for wiping the soles of shoes...
Honestly speaking Russian aircraft manufacturers has come in a long way and there lots of improvement has been done throughout the years. Irkut MC-21 is way more better and I’ll definitely go for Irkut MC-21. The only thing that Russian aircraft manufacturers must do right now is proper logistical and spare parts management and better customer support service 24/7 around the world. Bravo Irkut under UAC 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 And of course Russian aircraft management must start going around market their aircraft to any airline & also aviation company.
i think they will sell it to the closest allies tho like Vietnam, DPRK, Cuba, Algeria, Syria, Mali, CAR, Belarus, etc while setting up the logistical thing to these country, if the sale shows great result and the customer airlines company like it then they can expand the market to worldwide
On top of what was mentioned, it may be worth to update the specs. The PW1400G engines, US/EU avionics and interior materials were dropped. Depending on configuration, the A320neo can be also be compared with MS21-200 ($72m) and not necessarily the 300. The plane production is full domestic now (MS21-210/310) which I assume will further decrease costs.
And when does the Russian MS-21 come out? It is a much better passenger plane than the Chinese MC-919, it has the most modern engines in the world and the PD7, PD14, PD18, PD35 are entirely built in Russia. The MS-21 should be flying around the world by now, especially considering the crass anti-Russian sanctions. Russia is going to show the world that it doesn't need yankees worms or Eurodogs.
as Marcel Dassault, founder of the Dassault airplanes company, answered to the question "what is a good plane?", he was used to answer "It's a beautiful plane"
Get what you pay for. Reputation, safety, support, maintainability, reliability, flexibility, fit with existing fleet, training, financing, lifetime cost
Le bilan des sanctions anglo-saxonnes est très positive pour La Russie.Donc,il faut continuer avec les sanctions contre la Russie....Bonne continuation,sur tous les fronts....
MC21@A320neo, what is better!? If 737 story is going to be finished, what is closed to the truth, MC 21 catches fantastic potential. Well enough for MC21 to be second behind 320. Just show to the world, MC21 YOU ARE MONEYMAKER TOO.... and what I can see , you are !!!
КАК ТОЛЬКО РОССИЯ ПРЕКРАТИТ ПОСТАВКИ ТИТАНОВЫХ ДЕТАЛЕЙ С ВСМПО-АВИСМА А-320 ЗАГНЁТСЯ... УЖЕ СЕЙЧАС ПРОИЗВОДСТВО РАБОТАЕТ НА ЗАДЕЛЕ, ПРИОБРЕТЁННОМ В ЛУЧШИЕ ВРЕМЕНА...
What an argment ! In theory, from a pure technical point of view, the MS21 should be better as it is a totally new modern design (contrary to the chinese COMAC equivalent that is very traditional and unrisky more comparable to an older A320 CEO). Moreover, it has a composite wing whereas the A320NEO family still has a unmodernized classical aluminium wing. The main issue of the MS-21 is that it is unproven as is its russian motor. Worst, the russian manufacturer has a bad reputation for fiability and maintenance especially coming from the SSJ-100. On the contrary, Airvs is a reference on this matter with an existing and strong maintenance organisation worlwide.
Ты явно глупый до невозможности. Никогда МС21 не будет конкурентом А320. Во-первых такого серийного самолета еще нет. Во-вторых если и пойдет в серию, то какими же мелкими партиями, как летающее ведро Суперджет-100 . В третьих , убытки от производства МС21 будут еще больше. У ведра Суперджета 100 убытки от производства на 2019г были 6 миллиардов руб. Для получения прибыли надо строить более 60 аэропланов, РФ с трудом собирает не более 22 шт Суперджет-100. РФ строит самолетов МЕНЬШЕ всех авиационных стран в мире ,в лучший год 32 шт. Даже сраная Италия и то собирает более 45 шт ATR, Бразилия более 90шт Embraer, Канада более 120 Bombardier , Boeing более 750 шт в год. (СССР строил 400...450шт) Вывод. Наши головожопые чиновники не в состоянии что-то путевае построить. За 30 лет НИЧЕГО НЕ СДЕЛАЛИ кроме самой дорогой в мире олимпиады (стадионы уже разваливаются, построили самый дорогой мост, и пыжатся создать МС21 и Су57. За то распилили на металлолом один авиазавод(Саратов), четыре тракторных завода(Липецк,Рубцовск,Волгоград,Владимир) и два автогиганта(ЗИЛ и АЗЛК) и еще тысячи заводов,фабрик,школ, больниц,поликлиник, библиотек, населенных пунктов и т д....
Comparison: 1. Neo is in service since 2016, 1780+ built MC is still in development, its introduction is who knows when. The further comparison makes no sense.
@@TopMusic-rf3mt you seem to have assumed that Irkut and Design Bureau "Yakovlev"| (firms that build MC) are equivalent to Boeing in its infancy. Which is wrong. Yakovlev has designed and built passenger planes for decades. I'm far from teaching them what to do. What I want is a truthful and complete account of the state of affairs with the plane. Talking about Boeing, you must remember the accounts which were appearing in media after the notorious catastrophes. I remember an article (among many) with an in depth analysis, very unpleasant for Boeing listing all the mistakes of Boeing management and deficiencies in the routines which led to big loss of life and reputation. I expect the same here. Instead, all we have so far seems to be mostly boastful lies.
@@MrOlegBoldyrev Your careful approach is justified. I foresee lots of issues, when it hits reality. And yet, I am cautiously optimistic about this one. Black wing is a killer feature, PD-14 is a decent engine, fuel consumption is not too bad, and extra 40 km/h of speed is nice, the salon is wide (again, this saves time in the airport), the plane is cheap. And, most importantly, Russia does not have a habit of imposing sanctions on other countries. It might not be better than B-737/A320, but it's likely to hold its own, something like 3-5% of the market, which is comparable to Tu-154.
10 pieces Airbus A320neo - 1.106.000.000 $, 12 pieces MC-21 - 1.106.000.000 $ + for your entire corporation, a party for 14 million, with balalaika, vodka, bathhouse, girls and boys!🤣
Is MS-21 really better than A-320NEO? Then why it doesn't have 1000s of orders instead of 100s? Is the problem in quality or post-sale services & spare parts distribution?
Politics.. if you live in the USA you could ask the same queston about trucks, seeing predominantly US brands ..while in reality the US and some others from it's western sphere, just don't like fair competition. There are certainly better trucks than those made in the USA, like the Swedish Scania, the Russian Kamaz, German Mercedes, Japanese Toyota, etc..
Bravo à la Russie de n'avoir pas laisser ses ambitions d'autonomie dans les placards. bien jouer et soyez indépendant sur tous les plans car vos partenaires européens sont sous l'influence des usa ce qui est très problématique.
Very perfidious numbers game or simply put - a lie, finely shaped and deliciously served so you don't notice it ... Equation: MTOW=OEW+Payload+Fuel The equation with MS-21 is incorrect by one ton, with 737 MAX8 it is incorrect by six tons, and with A320neo by eight tons! In other words, the 737 MAX with full payload cannot reach the maximum range because it will have 6 tons less fuel or it will reach the maximum range but with 6 tons less payload. And... compare planes with similar MTOW as the only authoritative information because that is what you lift in the air.
Оба самолета хороши . мс21 в серию надо запускать, особенно с пд 14,тогда и видно будет кто лучше. И тут правильно писали сравнивая с Калиной и Логаном , но я бы сравнил их икс Рей и Сандеро .
Composite wings on a Russian aircraft. Previously, only the United States and Japan did this, and now Russia. The sanctions helped)) The sanctions helped to make the PD-14 motor, whose blades in the inside of the motor are not made of metal. They are lighter, more stable and stronger than metal. So thanks to Obama for the sanctions. For 7 years, Russia has made more than 1600 import replacement parts from programs, turbines, gas turbines, power plants for ships, iron steam, microchips, etc. The sanctions have made Russia much stronger than before the sanctions. We became leaders in grain and wheat. We provide ourselves with milk, meat, fish, cheeses, poultry, and hundreds of tons more are sold. Thank you eared, you were "kind" to us, I mean Obama, and then Trump. 49 sanctions in 5 years and have not achieved anything. Just look now at the US and the EU, and then at Russia. You will see the development of Russia and the decline of the West.
Try this fact: Russia's 2021 GDP was 75% of that of 2013, (last full year before Crimean economic sanctions). Why doesn't Russia observe the 1994 Budapest Memorandum and leave pacifist Ukraine alone? Putin is the neo Hitler.
You have to remember that Aeroflot has a big fleet of A320 (+98) and Boeing 737 (37) Local production is aimed to save Russian foreign currency and try to compete with western production. See the result in 5 to 10 years.
cant be compaered , The airbus is in the sky arround 20 years and the mc21 is as allweys "in the feature"or "prespective"as evering from russia , made in single"prespective "pcs.
Say it to the Russian air forces, dunderhead. Once Su-57 was just promising... And you said the same bullshit about the «Циркон» and «Кинжал» missiles while they were not tested in battle in front of the whole world, now they have changed their shoes, the United States has recognized that they have no protection from Russian hypersound..
@@artemiypereletov6247 su 57 - build 2 pcs only , and no money for more. F35 build 3000 so far and in mass production. F22 that is bether in stelth was build 20 years ago. Generaly to explain you , it is not a big problem to make just 1 or 2 pcs. the problem is to make them on time and mass production.And because you think I am dump , well I am pilot of airbus 320neo , ex military pilot on mig 29 , and I know what I am talking. Nothing personaly.
@@issyvarsano5622 I didn’t say you were dump in general, I just said you dump in this certain matter, although only a stupid person can fuck up an entire branch of production; More than 200 ms 21 will be built, some part would have already been built if it were not for Western sanctions, and you write about 1 pcs, and say that you are not stupid… American fighters are many times more expensive than Russian fighter jets, and they often lose out to our developments in quality; you didn't say anything about hypersonic missiles, it's not surprising there is nothing to answer; and about the fact that you are a pilot, so you have the right to write such a bullshit, then sorry, the profession does not give you the right to write such nonsense, and if it comes to that, I am also not a profane in the field of aviation-my father is a commander on the A350; my uncle is an active military pilot of the Russian Air Forces, flies on Su-35S
Сравнение "neo" в ливреях и не существующего в серии мс-21 некорректно. А320 хренова туча уже в активной экспуатации... Четыре МС до сих пор с дядьками в котелках вокруг кучи крутятся... так что... когда будет, тогда и будем посмотреть...
Though the stats show comparable perf. with the A 320 neo, the MC/MS 31 is still not a hit in terms of sells. Indeed due to the war started in Ukrain by Pres. Putin, the sanction applied will put this plane at strong disavantaged. But at least, it may sold like crazy in rogue countries such as Syria or North Corea. But... no ! Why ? 1. There were incredible delays in the conception and production of the plane. 2. They are strong doubts on the performance - and reliability - of the engines. 3. They are strong doubts on the maintenance costs and availability of spare parts as seen with former russian plane production. As a result, I think that MC/MS 31 has received orders for 300 + planes while the A 320 and A 320 deliveries and orders exceed 15 000, out of which 10 000 being already delivered, making the A 320 the world best selling airplane... Questions ?
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Про ведро - обоснуете? Чем ssj100 хуже, чем аналогичные зарубежные самолеты? Есть претензии с доступностью запчастей, есть проблемы с поставками в определенные страны из-за запрета США (Иран, например). При этом уже произведено 207 самолетов, разрабатывается версия R с максимальным использованием российских комплектующих. Проект пока не является прибыльным - это да, с другой стороны - это десятки работающих предприятий в России с рабочими местами и платяшие налоги. При этом хочется напомнить, что аналогичный проект Японии был закрыт после миллиардных расходов, аналогичный проект Китая выпустил 50 самолетов только для внутрикитайского рынка и сейчас не в блестящем состоянии.
The diameter of the fuselage and the length of the MS-21 are larger.
The capacity in terms of the number of passengers is greater and the commercial load is also higher.
The speed is higher.
At the same time, the aircraft having 10% less fuel flies 7% less distance.
Of course, I know that the PD-14 showed even better performance than it was claimed, and better than the PW-1400. But such data show that the PD-14 is a revolution in the aircraft industry.
Let's see what happens in practice.
Very promising.
Well, the fact is, the MS-21 has a completely black wing, here the A320Neo has lagged behind.
Mc21 was born to compete the A321(neo), not A320 so all the statistics of Mc21 is better than A320neo
@@sgp.kudensama It is unlikely that the MS-21 was born to compete outside of Russia. No one will give up a piece of European or American pie to the Russians. We are not talking about fair competition at all. Realizing this, the Russians make this aircraft primarily for their domestic consumption. Of course, anyone who dares to prefer the MS-21 to the Airbus will not be refused. But I don't think there will be many of them, because we all know how global corporations are able to put pressure on their current and hypothetical customers.
@@sgp.kudensamaNo, not at all, the MC21-300 competes directly with A320. The competitor of A321 will be the MC21-400.
the greatest advantage of the MC-21 is this, if you dont want sanctions to your aeronautic sector: buy it rusia is way more dependable than USA or EUROPE.
Sanctions are costing the EU a fortune, the last one, a proxy economic war with Moscow depleted EU member states for over 240 billion, sanctions are not free, they cost money, big money.
One of the dumbest comments I have read in months.
@@darkofius sanctions are to make the already rich and powerful even more rich and take from everyone all under the guise of "order" pathetic
@@darkofius Now, the EU says they need to do something for themselves to establish independent from the two sides. I mean, I support it and so do many people, I always supported a third-neutral party.
@@Parallex001 The EU is not independent, the EU is a vassal of the USA, alas, there is no third-neutral party! Undermining the Northern streams by the USA and the UK it was a demonstrative wiping of dirty shoe soles about the European Union as if the European Union is a rug in the hallway of USA for wiping the soles of shoes...
Beautifull aeroplane..Good luck Russia...
ЕРУНДУ ПИШЕШЬ - РАЗНИЦА В РВЗМЕРАХ НЕЗНАЧИТЕЛЬНА - ВСЁ АЭРОДРОМНОЕ ОБОРУДОВАНИИЕ 373/320 СОВМЕСТИМО!
@@ИгорьИсаков-з4р так то это ты до л ба е б)))) чувак пожелал удачи и все. причем тут твои скудные знания ттх нового самолета)))))
Honestly speaking Russian aircraft manufacturers has come in a long way and there lots of improvement has been done throughout the years.
Irkut MC-21 is way more better and I’ll definitely go for Irkut
MC-21.
The only thing that Russian aircraft manufacturers must do right now is proper logistical and spare parts management and better customer support service 24/7 around the world.
Bravo Irkut under UAC
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
And of course Russian aircraft management must start going around market their aircraft to any airline & also aviation company.
i think they will sell it to the closest allies tho like Vietnam, DPRK, Cuba, Algeria, Syria, Mali, CAR, Belarus, etc while setting up the logistical thing to these country, if the sale shows great result and the customer airlines company like it then they can expand the market to worldwide
@@Misakimori_NM oh yes, things can happen beautifully.
On top of what was mentioned, it may be worth to update the specs. The PW1400G engines, US/EU avionics and interior materials were dropped. Depending on configuration, the A320neo can be also be compared with MS21-200 ($72m) and not necessarily the 300. The plane production is full domestic now (MS21-210/310) which I assume will further decrease costs.
The MC -21 is a beautiful bird. I really hope it makes it
Looks like A350
Very good aircraft. Well done! Have a nice flight ✈️
And when does the Russian MS-21 come out? It is a much better passenger plane than the Chinese MC-919, it has the most modern engines in the world and the PD7, PD14, PD18, PD35 are entirely built in Russia. The MS-21 should be flying around the world by now, especially considering the crass anti-Russian sanctions.
Russia is going to show the world that it doesn't need yankees worms or Eurodogs.
Sounds like a hardcore leftist.
@@titosarmiento8333Russia ain't left now. They're orthodox Christians.
Es ist ein gutes Triebwerk, aber nicht das Beste der Welt.
as Marcel Dassault, founder of the Dassault airplanes company, answered to the question "what is a good plane?", he was used to answer "It's a beautiful plane"
"Only a beautiful plane can fly beautifully" (Soviet aircraft designer Tupolev)
Tupolev a dit ça,mon ami.....
Unit cost is $20M less than the A320 neo, that’s like saying buy 5 get 1 free.
Get what you pay for. Reputation, safety, support, maintainability, reliability, flexibility, fit with existing fleet, training, financing, lifetime cost
actually - buy FOUR get 5 !
4×110 = 440 Million vs
5×90 = 450 Million
The MC-21-300 is the better Aircraft for the passenger, way cheaper than the Airbus
But for business you need 3 MC instead 1 Airbus. Just have a look at Putin’s travel with 3 Lada Kalina. You need only 1 Volkswagen Golf for this trip.
@@olegdc10 Канал "Дождь" - ваш уровень, оставляйте свои бредни там, в комментариях, здесь ваши вбросы никому не интересны.
@@vladimirnikolskiy три Калины опровергните ?
@@olegdc10 что именно я должен опровергнуть, ваши бредни?
@@vladimirnikolskiy весь мир ржёт над этим великим автопробегом. Благодаря RUclips конечно
러시아가 민항기 시장에 나왔다. 와우. 어제 소개가 그 비행기.
Мы русские! Какой восторг!
(А В Суворов)
Сам то армян
MC-21 made in Russian is the best. 🇷🇺
Upcoming leader is MC-21-300
mc21 much better
Yes
It’s still to early to tell
COMAC is better.
Le bilan des sanctions anglo-saxonnes est très positive pour La Russie.Donc,il faut continuer avec les sanctions contre la Russie....Bonne continuation,sur tous les fronts....
V good airplane .....Russia looks to better
future ...future with love to the world .Russia GOD bless you 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
Indonesia pakai mc 21 kereen, bisa lebih murah tiketnya nie
ИНДОНЕЗИЯ - ВАССАЛ США - НИЧЕГО САМОСТОЯТЕЛЬНО ВЫБИРАТЬ НЕ МОГУТ...
MC21@A320neo, what is better!? If 737 story is going to be finished, what is closed to the truth, MC 21 catches fantastic potential. Well enough for MC21 to be second behind 320. Just show to the world, MC21 YOU ARE MONEYMAKER TOO.... and what I can see , you are !!!
КАК ТОЛЬКО РОССИЯ ПРЕКРАТИТ ПОСТАВКИ ТИТАНОВЫХ ДЕТАЛЕЙ С ВСМПО-АВИСМА А-320 ЗАГНЁТСЯ... УЖЕ СЕЙЧАС ПРОИЗВОДСТВО РАБОТАЕТ НА ЗАДЕЛЕ, ПРИОБРЕТЁННОМ В ЛУЧШИЕ ВРЕМЕНА...
Must be MS-21
Loved MC 21🎉
МС -21 заставит Боинг быть сговорчивым.
Cost comparison?
MC is much better
What an argment !
In theory, from a pure technical point of view, the MS21 should be better as it is a totally new modern design (contrary to the chinese COMAC equivalent that is very traditional and unrisky more comparable to an older A320 CEO). Moreover, it has a composite wing whereas the A320NEO family still has a unmodernized classical aluminium wing. The main issue of the MS-21 is that it is unproven as is its russian motor. Worst, the russian manufacturer has a bad reputation for fiability and maintenance especially coming from the SSJ-100. On the contrary, Airvs is a reference on this matter with an existing and strong maintenance organisation worlwide.
Железный конь(МС-21) идёт на смену колхозной лошадке(А-320).
Ты явно глупый до невозможности. Никогда МС21 не будет конкурентом А320. Во-первых такого серийного самолета еще нет. Во-вторых если и пойдет в серию, то какими же мелкими партиями, как летающее ведро Суперджет-100 .
В третьих , убытки от производства МС21 будут еще больше. У ведра Суперджета 100 убытки от производства на 2019г были 6 миллиардов руб. Для получения прибыли надо строить более 60 аэропланов, РФ с трудом собирает не более 22 шт Суперджет-100.
РФ строит самолетов МЕНЬШЕ всех авиационных стран в мире ,в лучший год 32 шт. Даже сраная Италия и то собирает более 45 шт ATR, Бразилия более 90шт Embraer, Канада более 120 Bombardier , Boeing более 750 шт в год. (СССР строил 400...450шт)
Вывод. Наши головожопые чиновники не в состоянии что-то путевае построить. За 30 лет НИЧЕГО НЕ СДЕЛАЛИ кроме самой дорогой в мире олимпиады (стадионы уже разваливаются, построили самый дорогой мост, и пыжатся создать МС21 и Су57.
За то распилили на металлолом один авиазавод(Саратов), четыре тракторных завода(Липецк,Рубцовск,Волгоград,Владимир) и два автогиганта(ЗИЛ и АЗЛК) и еще тысячи заводов,фабрик,школ, больниц,поликлиник, библиотек, населенных пунктов и т д....
@@НиколайОрлов-ч7ц обидно,но правда.
@@НиколайОрлов-ч7ц а ещё вакцину в рекордные сроки распилили, которую The Lancet признал как одну из самых эффективных в мире
@@НиколайОрлов-ч7ц Ну ты и уродец пропагандистский!
@@ЗлойСтоматолог я отомщу за всех. покажись чмо.
Comparison:
1. Neo is in service since 2016, 1780+ built MC is still in development, its introduction is who knows when.
The further comparison makes no sense.
@@davidzhabin you're kidding, aren't you.
@@davidzhabin Tests mean nothing. As well as Russian orders. It's only hype.
@@MrOlegBoldyrev Boeing also once started with small orders, and so did Airbus.
What now, do nothing?
@@TopMusic-rf3mt you seem to have assumed that Irkut and Design Bureau "Yakovlev"| (firms that build MC) are equivalent to Boeing in its infancy. Which is wrong. Yakovlev has designed and built passenger planes for decades.
I'm far from teaching them what to do. What I want is a truthful and complete account of the state of affairs with the plane.
Talking about Boeing, you must remember the accounts which were appearing in media after the notorious catastrophes. I remember an article (among many) with an in depth analysis, very unpleasant for Boeing listing all the mistakes of Boeing management and deficiencies in the routines which led to big loss of life and reputation. I expect the same here. Instead, all we have so far seems to be mostly boastful lies.
@@MrOlegBoldyrev Your careful approach is justified. I foresee lots of issues, when it hits reality. And yet, I am cautiously optimistic about this one. Black wing is a killer feature, PD-14 is a decent engine, fuel consumption is not too bad, and extra 40 km/h of speed is nice, the salon is wide (again, this saves time in the airport), the plane is cheap. And, most importantly, Russia does not have a habit of imposing sanctions on other countries. It might not be better than B-737/A320, but it's likely to hold its own, something like 3-5% of the market, which is comparable to Tu-154.
10 pieces Airbus A320neo - 1.106.000.000 $, 12 pieces MC-21 - 1.106.000.000 $ + for your entire corporation, a party for 14 million, with balalaika, vodka, bathhouse, girls and boys!🤣
Apparently, IRKUT is economically superior, solidly build to operate in artic or harsh, hot conditions.
No winglet on MC11
МС-21 подвинет аэробус и боинг)
И не далёк тот день , когда МС-21 будет безраздельно бороздить небо во всем небе
И не мечтай. Они даже не заметят конкурецию. Сколько же в мире дураков !
@@НиколайОрлов-ч7ц разбилось 2 боинга, придурок. Как думаешь просели у них продажи? Дурак это про тебя)
@@НиколайОрлов-ч7ц , это « улыбка» просто бот
@@НиколайОрлов-ч7ц Уже заметили. Иначе не запретили бы поставку в РФ композитных материалов для крыльев.
The comparison shold be done with the A321 Neo wich is longer.
= avionics is not so creative like MS-21/big aerbus wings = fat ass. here is economy -12% of fuel.
@@mr.bluesky5023 MC 21 You Mean
That's what I was thinking.
БУДЕТ ЕЩЁ МС-21-400 - ТОГДА ЕГО И БУДЕМ СРАВНИВАТЬ С А-321... СЕЙЧАС РАССМАТРИВАЮТСЯ ВАРИАНТЫ МС-21 ВМЕСТИМОСТЬЮ 240-280 МЕСТ!
Il n’y a pas photo, c’est une pâle copie de l’Airbus 😉
Nitrogen fill up in aircraft wheel ?
Is MS-21 really better than A-320NEO? Then why it doesn't have 1000s of orders instead of 100s? Is the problem in quality or post-sale services & spare parts distribution?
Politics.. if you live in the USA you could ask the same queston about trucks, seeing predominantly US brands ..while in reality the US and some others from it's western sphere, just don't like fair competition. There are certainly better trucks than those made in the USA, like the Swedish Scania, the Russian Kamaz, German Mercedes, Japanese Toyota, etc..
ПРОБЛЕМА ИСКЛЮЧИТЕЛЬНО В ФАШИСТСКОЙ/НАЦИСТКОЙ СУЩЬНОСТИ США И НАТО...
Because of Politics !!!
Bravo à la Russie
Calm down, please! Airbus A320neo - in producing and flies, Boeing 737 MAX - too. And where is Irkut?
Bravo à la Russie de n'avoir pas laisser ses ambitions d'autonomie dans les placards. bien jouer et soyez indépendant sur tous les plans car vos partenaires européens sont sous l'influence des usa ce qui est très problématique.
Allez coucouche panier... Airbus est sous l'influlence des usa, arf ! De mieux en mieux les analyses géopolitiques !
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Why mc21 loses to a320 and 737 max in range? Is it because fuel capacity or fuel comsumption? The engines in mc21 are not russian!
PD14 🤔. I think you’ll find they are Russian
Very perfidious numbers game or simply put - a lie, finely shaped and deliciously served so you don't notice it ...
Equation:
MTOW=OEW+Payload+Fuel
The equation with MS-21 is incorrect by one ton, with 737 MAX8 it is incorrect by six tons, and with A320neo by eight tons! In other words, the 737 MAX with full payload cannot reach the maximum range because it will have 6 tons less fuel or it will reach the maximum range but with 6 tons less payload.
And... compare planes with similar MTOW as the only authoritative information because that is what you lift in the air.
Оба самолета хороши . мс21 в серию надо запускать, особенно с пд 14,тогда и видно будет кто лучше. И тут правильно писали сравнивая с Калиной и Логаном , но я бы сравнил их икс Рей и Сандеро .
Главное под хорошую музыку, а сравнение технических данных , это так , для буржуазных специалистов
Заждались.....
Composite wings on a Russian aircraft. Previously, only the United States and Japan did this, and now Russia. The sanctions helped)) The sanctions helped to make the PD-14 motor, whose blades in the inside of the motor are not made of metal. They are lighter, more stable and stronger than metal. So thanks to Obama for the sanctions. For 7 years, Russia has made more than 1600 import replacement parts from programs, turbines, gas turbines, power plants for ships, iron steam, microchips, etc. The sanctions have made Russia much stronger than before the sanctions. We became leaders in grain and wheat. We provide ourselves with milk, meat, fish, cheeses, poultry, and hundreds of tons more are sold. Thank you eared, you were "kind" to us, I mean Obama, and then Trump. 49 sanctions in 5 years and have not achieved anything. Just look now at the US and the EU, and then at Russia. You will see the development of Russia and the decline of the West.
Try this fact: Russia's 2021 GDP was 75% of that of 2013, (last full year before Crimean economic sanctions). Why doesn't Russia observe the 1994 Budapest Memorandum and leave pacifist Ukraine alone? Putin is the neo Hitler.
Exactly . Bravo Russia !!!
Do a321 neo vs 737-10MAX Please
What would be better: A od B? A on my honest opinion.
This is not a correct comparison, you need to compare the MС-21 and the Airbus A321!
Will Airbus A320 survive Russian Airports during long winters...
You have to remember that Aeroflot has a big fleet of A320 (+98) and Boeing 737 (37) Local production is aimed to save Russian foreign currency and try to compete with western production. See the result in 5 to 10 years.
cant be compaered , The airbus is in the sky arround 20 years and the mc21 is as allweys "in the feature"or "prespective"as evering from russia , made in single"prespective "pcs.
Say it to the Russian air forces, dunderhead. Once Su-57 was just promising... And you said the same bullshit about the «Циркон» and «Кинжал» missiles while they were not tested in battle in front of the whole world, now they have changed their shoes, the United States has recognized that they have no protection from Russian hypersound..
So according to you there's no way for innovation???
@@kmmaxim484 inovation that takes 20 years is not inovation at all.
@@artemiypereletov6247 su 57 - build 2 pcs only , and no money for more. F35 build 3000 so far and in mass production. F22 that is bether in stelth was build 20 years ago.
Generaly to explain you , it is not a big problem to make just 1 or 2 pcs. the problem is to make them on time and mass production.And because you think I am dump , well I am pilot of airbus 320neo , ex military pilot on mig 29 , and I know what I am talking. Nothing personaly.
@@issyvarsano5622 I didn’t say you were dump in general, I just said you dump in this certain matter, although only a stupid person can fuck up an entire branch of production; More than 200 ms 21 will be built, some part would have already been built if it were not for Western sanctions, and you write about 1 pcs, and say that you are not stupid…
American fighters are many times more expensive than Russian fighter jets, and they often lose out to our developments in quality; you didn't say anything about hypersonic missiles, it's not surprising there is nothing to answer; and about the fact that you are a pilot, so you have the right to write such a bullshit, then sorry, the profession does not give you the right to write such nonsense, and if it comes to that, I am also not a profane in the field of aviation-my father is a commander on the A350; my uncle is an active military pilot of the Russian Air Forces, flies on Su-35S
A320 neo has PW 1127 G geared turbofan... What the hell are you talking
Disini MC21 300 bayak ke unggulan dari A320..
Segi bentuk mesin,MC21 300 jauh lebih besar dari A320..
Charmé par le MC 21!!
"МС-21-300" >>> (MS-21-300).
Это у МС-21 "wider cabin".
That not the neo that the xlr
Mc21 already won with the cost!
Сказки только начинаются
This aircraft will never be finished and sell.
Why?
You can see into the future!
Great, tell me what the weather will be like on February 6, 2032 in Calcutta?
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The problem with Russia is they got more planes that crashed.... people need trust...
even more than Boeing 737 max ?
where do you get your news ?
i consume English news but still don't get news of frequent crashes of Russian planes.
Pratt & Whitney Engines now off the table, have to use Russian built engines instead
E2 Embraer the best
the engine is still made in the west
O maior dos E2, o 195, ainda é menor do que as duas aeronaves apresentadas. São categorias diferentes.
both are flying computers with joystick
mc-21 look modern
Хвастаться прототипом не перевезшим ни одного пассажира это по-нашему.
Такие же комментарий были про Суперджет, ну и 300 единиц скоро будут построены)
Good air craft but Russia can't go for mass production MC-21.
Who said that?
잘되세요.
ЯК-320 )
Tim Airbus
Сравнение "neo" в ливреях и не существующего в серии мс-21 некорректно.
А320 хренова туча уже в активной экспуатации... Четыре МС до сих пор с дядьками в котелках вокруг кучи крутятся...
так что... когда будет, тогда и будем посмотреть...
Soon airbus bank crabs very expensive airplane very expensive maintenance very expensive Spar part very expensive pilots salaries.....
MC 21 most speed
Though the stats show comparable perf. with the A 320 neo, the MC/MS 31 is still not a hit in terms of sells. Indeed due to the war started in Ukrain by Pres. Putin, the sanction applied will put this plane at strong disavantaged. But at least, it may sold like crazy in rogue countries such as Syria or North Corea. But... no ! Why ? 1. There were incredible delays in the conception and production of the plane. 2. They are strong doubts on the performance - and reliability - of the engines. 3. They are strong doubts on the maintenance costs and availability of spare parts as seen with former russian plane production. As a result, I think that MC/MS 31 has received orders for 300 + planes while the A 320 and A 320 deliveries and orders exceed 15 000, out of which 10 000 being already delivered, making the A 320 the world best selling airplane... Questions ?
Go away UkroTroll
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This is joke the a320 more than 30 years , what i have to compare the bullshit from Russia ?????
Nobody asked the barking shit-eaters! Shut your stinking mouth!
купить лада калина или рено логан - так и с самолетами))
бред от малолетки
@@Евгений-я8й8н лада калина твой выбор)
@@andriirublov5567 что к чему?... Лишь бы пернуть в лужу херню.
@@Евгений-я8й8н ну ты предпочел бы приору или хюндай сонату?
@@andriirublov5567 приоры тоже не производятся, олень. к чему эти тупоголовые сравнения??? малолетка походу.
Про летающее ведро Суперджет 100 говорили так же..... Оказалось проект убыточный..
Про ведро - обоснуете? Чем ssj100 хуже, чем аналогичные зарубежные самолеты? Есть претензии с доступностью запчастей, есть проблемы с поставками в определенные страны из-за запрета США (Иран, например). При этом уже произведено 207 самолетов, разрабатывается версия R с максимальным использованием российских комплектующих. Проект пока не является прибыльным - это да, с другой стороны - это десятки работающих предприятий в России с рабочими местами и платяшие налоги. При этом хочется напомнить, что аналогичный проект Японии был закрыт после миллиардных расходов, аналогичный проект Китая выпустил 50 самолетов только для внутрикитайского рынка и сейчас не в блестящем состоянии.
@@filinfilinov2249 зачем вы нагружаете его не замутнённый разум . 😁
" Про летающее ведро Суперджет 100 говорили так же..."
Ой, ну везде понасрал. Дык ты тут троль на работе?
@@filinfilinov2249 А Бомбардье вообще загнулся при разработке аналогичного.
Every second Western aircraft is made of Russian aluminum and titanium. Lol.