How Good is the New 2020 Chevy Silverado HD? We Plow a Mountain of Snow to Find Out!
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- Опубликовано: 2 мар 2020
- (www.TFLoffroad.com) We head to the Upper Peninsula of Michigan to find the snow and put BOSS Snowplows and Chevy HD pickups to the test.
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Outstanding review..... thank man💪💪💪
No, it wasnt. It was a plow commercial.
@@Darthreloy hahahah... Yes..
I've been a snow removal contractor for 20 years. I've owned a long list of 3/4 & 1 tons. You do not need a diesel, you will break traction long before you run out of power. I only buy gas engines for plow trucks it's very important to keep costs down because competition is high and profits are not always, my only diesels are my 6 series John Deere's I have for the business. When it comes to front weight ratings, I don't care. I put on what I want, I strengthen weak points of the front of the trucks frame such as welding in gussets behind the upper A arms for added protection. I run Boss wings on my V's to make them at least 10' wide. Again, it's all about production. Also give me a regular cab truck to plow snow any day over a crew cab. Plowing snow in the middle of the night is totally different, you need as much visibility as possible. Warning lights and adding rear work lights are a must have for plowing snow.
great information right there...my thought was diesels are not as happy in the cold as gasoline...im sure you know the trick of adding Kerosene to help in the extreme cold ( one gallon kero to ten gallons of diesel)
Same here. Been doing this for 20 years. In all those years I can truly say that maybe a handful of times did I ever wish I had diesel. Considering the price, I would go with a gas motor.
Great advice. I've always been wondering, do professional plowers use winter tires?
@@minivanmaster A quality tire with 4wd drive will push snow without any trouble. No need for snow tires.
Watch this video to see the boss plow in action and to read mr. Browns comments. Hes got it right. This video is a joke. You watch it you go out buy a diesel. To plow. Then leave it plugged in all night and hope it starts. Get out the can of either. Single cab and short bed. Plowing is not all huge wide open lots. It's often narrow tight short driveways you need small and maneuverable. This guy knows nothing about plowing. You want to know ask Mr. Brown or someone like him that has years of valuable knowledge to share.
I run a regular cab 2500HD 8.1 liter with Allison auto & Boss 9’2” V since 2001. Love it.
Great setup! Too bad GM discontinued the 8.1! My uncle had one and got 13 on the road which considerding a gas big block thats not much worse then the small block. These new diesels with the emissions crap do not really get much better milage then the gasers when working them.
Me too.
Study how to replace the power window regulators. They'll start going south on you if you roll the windows down or not.. Cheap and easy fix. Order the new regulator with the motor. Only a few bucks more and much easier fix. GM OEM radiator is the only one that survives more than a few months. Other than that,, great trucks. Love the 8.1 - Allison. Replace the upper o2 sensors and your power will return.
Love my 8.1 trans went at 330k miles i think its worth fixing the motor still runs strong after 20 years of towing
Do you make any money after your gas expenses. That 8.1 is a pig
@@frankst.george3106 not much...The stuff I plow was basically family and friends… Not for actual income
They can't kill the Duramax on the Banks performance channel, a damn good diesel.
Correct. The engine they are using is stock internals too!
I'm Sooooo glad I moved to Arizona. My truck isn't going to rust to pieces anymore, among other things. I'd still be driving my '03 Silverado this day if it hadn't rusted to bits in the rocker panels due to road salt. I LOVED that truck.
Not being a smart ass but wash it right it won't rust. I got 73 Chevy, 73 f250 and an IHC I got no idea how old she is. All plow trucks since new, no rust. Cause I wash them. No salt, no rust. Wash them they last forever.
John Ross it’s true, my dads got an 04 and he plows with it, thing is mint still frame don’t even barely have rust
@@brandonvankampen5588 yeah you gota wax them good before every winter and wash them weekly when it’s snowing out.
@@brandonvankampen5588 my father had an 99 2500 for 17 years it had zero rust on it.
I love that block heater spot! So will the salt and slush...
Finally!!!!! Awesome work guys
Good job! Fun and informative at the same time. Keep up the good work!
I have a 2015 Sierra 1500 Regular Cab short bed with a Fisher 7"6" Xtreme V plow. I add 500 lbs in the bed and no problem pushing snow with plenty of power.
Was stationed at KISawyer AFB 71 to 73. Worked in the weather always. I'm sure to have a nightmare tonight. Great info on plowing.
17 min. To get to the point that diesel torque helps get plowing done better. Wrong information by the way.
Change the title to Boss plows because that's what this video is about.
I plow and we have 2, 3/4 ton gas chevys and they have more then enough power and a diesel won't make a differnce you will lose traction before you get to use all that torque.
Good time to be down south🏝
Yup! It is 70 degrees in Florida right now! I'll be in the pool in a couple weeks!
Fun review thank you
Given the slow speeds of plowing. Using low range or having a 4.10 or 4.56 axle ratio may give the gasser the response that you are looking for.
My wife and I have diesel Ram pickups. Both trucks have 33" tires. Hers is a 2500, mine a 1500. Hers has a 3.42 ratio, mine a 3.92. Her truck is hard to control the massive torque in high range. Mine is one of the most pleasant vehicles that I have ever driven on ice.
The only truck that I have driven with a plow. Weighed 20k# empty, and had a DT466 engine, with an Allison transmission and a 4.10 ratio. That truck was owned by Caltrans. In that area we pushed rocks off the road. But the truck was a standard 2 axle configuration. Caltrans liked to keep their trucks 10 years. But the low mile ones could be 20 years old.
As a Boss dealer I will refer my non experienced potential customers to this video for an entertaining intro to plowing. Thanks TFL.
I live in northern Michigan and I plow out 2 track trails and gravel roads for my family's oil company. Boss V is my plow. Dont recommend it for much off the hard top. Bosses shoes break all the time. Ford 3500 Powerstroke single rear is absolutely awful. Get a gas truck for dependable service. Diesel torque doesn't matter when plowing. It is great that it is heavy which really helps. The shortest, heaviest truck is best. Add 20 bags of sand in the bed when you have ice as your base under the snow to get traction. Goodyear winter rated DuraTracs are a life saver or any other winter rated quality all terrain.
The light heaters are cool. Led lights do not melt snow like the regular bulb lights. I plow roads with a state truck which has LEDs and I have to clean them off so I can see and be seen.
@mmjmc02 I plow snow with a 2010 int. Work star, all the lights on back of truck are leds. All the work lights for the wing plow and spreader lights are led.
Love snow.
Then get the duramax, it's the best option
The worst part of plowing with the Diesel in a parking lot scenario is the re gen cycles with extended idling involved. I spent 30 years running big plows, grader with wings, etc. Other than that the diesel would be the ultimate choice.
Most lawn care guys say to use gas. The truck is cheaper, the fuel is cheaper, the engine is lighter, mpg is a non factor, and at the end of the day more wear and tear happens on the transmission.
Love the Allison! Worth the money. Your so right on that one. Switch to the Allison there bomb proof. Almost.
yes, our lawn company uses all ford and GM gassers.
Block heater location great idea on the bottom of the truck for corrosion!!
Yeah , I was thinking the same thing. What about the snow & ice down there. Then you have to get on your hands and knees to plug it in . What a dumb place to put that .
Engineers are book smart, not application smart. And it needs to be on the passenger side up high.
Awesome review. I'm with you go for the diesel with all that torque. Thanks for sharing.
@OGL iaDL maybe in the snow covered states.
Great video! Would like to see a bracket made for the salter controller as opposed to just drilling it straight into the lower dash. If that vehicle is going to be sold the new owner will have to deal with those holes if they don't do snow removal.
looks fun!
I actually have this truck on order except gas and extended cab . I will be hanging a v plow off of it . I’m worried about the torsion front suspension. I would prefer an old school solid front axel hopefully no problem
That type of block heater connention have been used here in Europe for many years, first generation of it is 40-50 years old
I just bought a 2020 duramax the Block heater plug is in the stupidest spot way to low and the cover gets frozen shut all the time, they should have just put it a little higher in the grill. I miss just tucking it up in the bumper like my 17 powerstroke had.
Not a chevy fan. However, I agree with you about the tires. You pay that much money for a work truck to do winter work, plow or other, they should either give you an option of which tires go on or give you 2 sets.
I noticed at 4:00 none of the three trucks have cab lights. Is there a reason? I also noticed there were three different trim levels. I have a 2020 2500 and mine didn’t come with cab lights. No idea why.
I’ve been plowing for 8 years commercial
And used 02-08 gm HD 6.0l gas trucks and they do more than fine. Of course the duramax would be best. But I like the 6.0 gas engine. Easy to repair :
Landscaping company I work for has a handful of 6.0 trucks from various generations to plow in the winter and honestly I never felt like I was missing anything with the gas engine. Towing is a different story tho
Plowed with a duramax for 4 winters... great truck but reverse speed was much slower then the gas trucks , redlined at 25-30 kms in reverse..
Maintenance is much cheaper with the gas as well...
@@markj2838 For sure the Allisons are sloooow in reverse. Tough trans though so still a good unit for plow duty.
@@BERPSU1 i know in my standard shift truck its the same gear as first just spinning the other way so its the same speed as first...just feels really fast backwards
Still waiting on our dually to arrive.
This video is more of a boss snow plow commercial.
@Jeffrey Harbick agreed that boss plows are very good. But I was under the impression that they would have talked about more about the differences between gas and diesel. It was more about the plows. False advertising. I don't appreciate being misled.
@@XOneStarX exactly right!
Tfl is running out of money..so they did the plow job.. 🤣 🤣
After watching the hook-up, I will stay with my Western Pro Poly. The attachment looks much easier when working alone.
I love my boss plows. One person hookup is no problem at all. Stick with whatever you have, same plow brand in a fleet is best.
Whereabouts in the UP was this?
Awesome 👏. Good job Canada 🇨🇦.
This isn't Canada though. The UP sees more snow than almost anywhere else in the continent, lol
Good detailed description of plow prep package. yeah really like the details. auto 4 wheel drive mode? the more i watched to better video gets.
GAS IS BEST FOR SNOW PLOWING ask any seasoned vet out there. This is a neat video but it's being done by someone who doesn't plow snow and is speaking from ignorance.
Diesels are great for pulling and for long driving but they are not great for plowing where you need extreme cold weather performance, lots of idling, etc. And you don't need tons of torque to plow snow, you're limited by grip not torque. Our old gas trucks probably have half the torque of the modern gas engines and we never run out of power, just grip.
Plow trucks don't actually get that many miles put on em they just go back and forth 9999999 times and sit and idle a LOT compared to trucking. It's extremely common for the engine to outlast the truck in a plow truck.
Diesels also weigh a lot more, which takes up payload and is a lot more weight on the front end when you put a 1000lb plow hanging out in front of the truck (adding leveraged force)
plow trucks (especially if they salt) outlast gas engines, let alone diesel..
The trucks get used so hard and get so beat up and corroded by salt and chemicals that the drivetrain, body, and frame wear much faster than the engine.
You'll have to replace 2 transmissions before you wear out a gas engine in a plow truck. So why would you spend an extra 10 grand for a diesel that will outlast your truck 2x? Plow trucks are about making money, and it's a very difficult business, one bad winter can ruin a lot of people. you don't want to eat up profits by wasting money.
Dead on. I run Boss V's with Boss wings, so they are 10' wide. Gas engines and power is NEVER an issue. Duratrac tires are another plus on a plow truck.
@Jeffrey Harbick yeah I don't mean to say that they suck for plowing, just not necessary and might not always be the best choice for a plow truck.
But everyone has their own needs and wants. Hope this winter wasn't too hard on you, it was terrible in SE Michigan.
The only people that like Boss have never plowed with a Fisher.
Marquette. Hell yeah I'm in Sault Ste. Marie
$87,000 later...…………………...
$87,000 poorer.....................
Love Marquette!
An awesome video for. Ram sales. and fisher plows. Grins
Have had and used heavy, a Boss 9’2” V plow since 1997. Same plow ! Truck and plow has earned approx 200k to date
I've ran both. Diesel is a total PITA because the truck gets stuck in Regen. With the elevated idle associated with regen, at least in GM trucks, you're slamming the transmission that much harder when you go back and forth, back and forth. It'll stay stuck in regen until you run it on the highway long enough to burn off the DPF. Hate plowing with diesel for that reason alone. Gas is the way to go.
This and the other issue i ran into is where the torque curve is on the diesel. On dirt drives that get a lot of snow pack the diesel is harder to keep the wheels from spinning. Gas is a bit easier to control.
I bought a 2019 duramax as my daily driver and to pull travel trailer. After 15 months 30% of the miles were to drive it out of town solely to do the regen. Traded for a 2020 gas GMC HD and love it - fun to drive again.
With the infamous death wobble the Ford super duties are still suffering from (fact), this new Silverado HD is a good choice. And I’m not brand loyal I’ll drive anything as long as it’s reliable.
Honestly I'd take a solid front axle any day, my 2014 Chevy drove great but it did not handle the weight well up front
We use standard cab 3500 only show one of these.
Also one thing to note, the 6.6 gasser does not have 4 auto on any trim as 4 auto is a feature on the 10 speed trans, which is currently exclusive to the duramax. as production ramps up obviously the gasser will get the 10 speed and by default the function. A high country with a gasser will not have 4 auto and a wt with a duramax will have it (provided the wt has 4x4 at all)
On my 2022 LT does have the 4 Auto, with the 6 speed automatic.
As much as I love diesel's for towing and hauling, and as useful as that low end torque is for pushing snow, I don't recommend diesel plow trucks, especially for residential accounts. The cost difference is too much to be worth it for just plowing. A HD gasser will push the same snow with just a bit more effort. Upkeep costs are lower and you dont have to worry about emissions crap, frozen def fluid, glow plugs or block heaters. Competition is pretty stiff, commercial liability insurance costs are through the roof, and profit margins for plowing are meager. That 10 grand in savings will buy you a backup truck or plow, or a salter or other equipment that will actually make you more revenue.
Stainless steel has no advantage other then looks? What about rust and wear resistance?
I was told by a Boss rep that I cant put a Boss plow on my chevy 2500hd with a 6.6 liter Duramax cause it puts to much weight on the axle
"It will allow the plow to trip over a 3ft object and keep plowing"
Not sure but pretty sure the 3ft object would hit the truck after it trips lmao
Why would you want the Alaskan model to come with winter tires? At least half the time you don't want winter tires. So then what, you have to go out and buy regular tires? Whats the difference whether it comes with regular tires that "can" be used year round, or winter tires that you cant use year round where you have to go buy regular tires?
For a plow truck gas hd all day higher payload axle capacity plenty of low end torque and they start everytime w out the worries of plugging in or geled fuel. And finally the cost plow trucks get beat the worst condition. Salt. They will not last long enough if you plow commercially for the cost difference of a diesel.
The Stainless Steel won’t Rust ! That’s a Huge Advantage!
No, the stainless steel WILL RUST, but slower than steel.
Talk to us about what full time plow operators do in the summer time with their trucks!
Take the dogs and go searching for 👽 aliens, same as you.
They do other business that requires big trucks such as hot shot trucking, landscaping, excavation etc.
Praying for snow over here.
Having worked in maintenance and done my fair Shari of plowing. Gas trucks are good if you need to plow a parking lot. But in a snow storm, you need. Pusher and diesel is the way to go. We used Cummins diesels for our trucks to plow parking lots and drive ways.
When serious plowing is needed you use a tractor not a pickup.
I have the rubber floors in my 1500. No charge.
Hold up...is that a red custom with a duramax??? Can you get diesel customs in Canada???
Yes
You can get dmax in any HD trim in Canada but half ton is a different story lol only high trims
I'm a ford guy but that cummins needs more gears to be fair. Manual trans is best behind the cummins. It just doesn't turn enough rpms. 10 speed or more to take advantage of the lower rpm power output. The dyno chart shows the cummins is completely done making power at 3k rpms while the chevy and ford may be out of the sweet spot for torque at 3k they still have rpms and hp to play with. Like my 7.3. I can't stand the auto behind it and everyone with the zf6 manual loves the way drive. Automatics love rpm and hp. Manuals love torque.
This kinda feels like a boss infomercial
I would suggest anyone plowing never use auto 4wd the clutch does not have the duty cycle to operate like that. Place it in 4wd preferably 4 lo as it reduces the stress on the transmission and dri e smoothly
Like a duck to water. A+
I personally love the look of the new Chevy HDs, I just wish that antennae wasnt up there with the cab lights, kind of ruins the aggressive look of having them IMO
I don't care about the trucks, but I WANT that rubber floor in my F150!
Great video! Would love to see the same test but with a ford
That’s one of the reasons I moved to Texas. Hate snow.
Lucky. I'm stuck in Canada until I get my citizenship 😅
Well gee, now you just gotta move north to avoid the crippling summer heat.
I moved to Florida from Colorado. If I want snow I can go to the beach. Sand is white as snow and 80 degrees with babes in bikinis.
you must hate making money 🤑🤑🤑
I'd love it if you added some science to your channel because then you would understand power isn't everything. Frozen DEF tanks and diesel the consistency of watery jello during really cold weather aren't as fun as you think. You most likely haven't experienced the -30°f (-34.4°c) start ups
We always use gassers for plowing, more then enough power. Diesel is not necessary and makes no difference.
Best plow rig I ever had was when I bought a new Standard Cab '95 F-350 Dually 4X4 with the 460 EFI. I had a 12' Eagle electric dump on the back with a Western Poly Sander and on the business end, I had the Boss 9'2" Pro-V Plow. That sun-uva-bitch would bust through anything and I could plow a parking lot - even after a foot of snow - to "military specs" tight into the corners, by being able to push my piles back far and high. There was no need for coming back later with a Bobcat to "clean the corners" due to loss of parking spaces from corner piles! And the best thing was speed! I could plow faster than two 7'6" Western straight plow trucks - and do a better job - which is why I commanded a premium for my services.
Probably should've waited to shave the beard until spring time. Lol
Bought and paid for by boss.
plowing snow is fun until you're 48+HRS into your shift and start microsleeping
I live in alaska had diesel for 25 years don't buy a diesel a new one unless you like going to the dealership alot. The new def system and cold weather are not compatible
"plowing speed U want to be 14 mph or under" I guess I've ben doing it wrong for past 15 years because I ben going faster than that with a plow down, Actually I think my skid steer sv340 with a 22.5 tires can do 14 mph with a ld13
So now all vinyl floor cost extra... Got it
Only fisher plows should be on the front of those trucks because they are proven compared to boss. Also I don’t like how the boss trips forward you loose your entire load of snow. I also don’t like how it has extension springs and no chain lift which limits the stacking height. Fisher plows are the best hands down for all trucks. Also the controller for the v plow on the fisher is way easier to use. The Boss is awkward you have to press two buttons at a time which sucks.
I second this. Fisher plows are hands down the best there is. And when they aren't on, you don't have all of that bracketry hanging down killing your ground clearance!
@@stewpuddy4161 Yup! 👍😎🤛
@@MrTylerg506 I just bought a 2022 2500 HD. I wouldn't even drive it home until they installed a Fisher on it. Pick it up next week.
@@stewpuddy4161 👍🤛😎 I have a 2016 Chevy 2500HD 6.0 with a fisher 8.6xv2 with led lights
@@MrTylerg506 nice! Ya the dealer said "we sell other plows, not just Fisher's." And I said "not to me you don't!"
I disagree. Gas truck is just fine for plowing. Plus, much cheaper to fix when it breaks down. Diesel only good for towing.
If it breaks. And if it does it will be at 400k miles
Might be nice for someone who actually knows the trucks and how to plow to do a review for better information
Independent front suspension is not heavy duty suspension, heavy duty suspension is a solid front axle suspension
I don't know Steve. Long term the diesel particulate filter will need to be replaced in 60000 miles. They are not cheap. I'd think long and hard on that decision Steve.
patrick burgmeier that’s wrong have 4 550’s each with over 200000 miles over 9000 hours haven’t changed a filter yet
@@rhonda00z71 you are overdue. Don't put it off. The filter plugs up with ash a creates sever back pressure. It will lead to engine failure. I drive semi tractors. All diesel after 2005 are pretty much the same. You could do a delete. But that severely limits were you can take them for repairs. As dealers won't touch them.
I am copying and pasting my last comment from your last video in regards to the Alaskan package. Same points are valid here:
"This is literally a 1500 dollar appearance package with the plow prep package. No heated seats, steering wheel, heated mirrors, engine block heater, trans heater, electronic locking rear, supplemental diesel cab heater, or even rear defrost. All of that is tied up in the 2,400 dollar convince package. If this is a serious plow truck, get a WT truck with the 150 dollar snow plow prep package. You get vinyl seats and floor by default and save a shit ton of money. If you have money to burn or want a really nice plow truck, get a LTZ/high country or denali with a plow prep package and enjoy working in a reasonably luxurious cab.
As for the snow tires, they have to sell the trucks with tires all season ready because what if they sell the truck in July when snow tires would be horrible. I would prefer having a second set of wheels and tires for winter months. It takes 30 minutes to switch them. If you are for some reason dead set on a single set of tires for year round, then get yourself a set of inclement weather rated all terrains and keep some chains on you, but either way you're swapping tires and its easier if they just include all seasons you can sell off if you don't want them."
I wouldn't want an electric rear locker that would be a limited slip I like the true mechanical posi tract rear end ... it works GM has the right idea Ford use too
@@markbuilt ford uses exclusively e lockers
When you guys do these comparisons between diesel and gas, you don't count in the costs of maintenance and ownership. The diesel costs a whole lot more on maintenance and any repairs. So, it's more than just the extra $10k you pay up front.
Maintenance? What at 400k miles. That gasser needs to be maintained every season. Higher rpms terrible fuel mileage when running. No thanks. Weight of diesel along you can idle and push snow.
Wouldn't a block heater plug in a fender make alot more sense for a NA market on the passenger side? Not everyone has a garage or a driveway. Street parking is very much a thing and with the plug on the drivers side, that's pretty hazardous! Don't get me wrong, l like the idea, but not on the drivers side.
And putting the plug way down low is just asking for trouble with all the salt, dirt and water getting in there.
Thank you for your "plowpinion" after just two passes.
Yeah you're cringe
Tires
K.I Sawyer!
Heavier front end of a Diesel is good on the snow. Not so good in the mud!
8:29 that picture over video editing was bad timing
I love the truck, but not a fan of boss plows... almost everyone here in Maine are religious Fisher users...... but fisher is completely made here in Rockland Maine
Looks like that Chevy could barley do donut lol
Nathan McCree poor driving
@@davidleeosbourne2727 an Chevy are just garbage
Nathan McCree well u should see the other tfl video about the 200000 mile mark. Watch that. I say Chevy holds up very well
No point in getting the diesel. You'd have to make an extra 10k before you broke even on the truck. Throw in the cost of DEF on top of fuel costs, you're really just shooting yourself in the foot if you're trying to turn a profit.
The lady on the gas truck seemed annoyed
Anybody who has plowed with a pickup truck knows that this guy hasn't plowed for more than 30 minutes in his lifetime! His recommendation to opt for a diesel and V-plow is simply wrong. I have plowed with a Chevy Regular Cab - Long Bed - 2500HD for years with never a problem. This issue of the straight plow trying to force you left or right is ridiculous! Can you say "steering wheel!" And that statement that you need to lift the plow, gain some momentum before you drop the plow with a gasser is just plain BS. With 3:72 gears it's not a problem! Save your money folks. If you want to seriously plow, then get your CDL and go to work for your local highway department and drive real plows with 10 or 12 wheels! Otherwise any 2500HD or better will do the job for you. And oh BTW, Fisher Plows are much better than Boss Plows. Happy Snow Days!
Anybody else notice all that rust on those half shafts on a brand new chevy? Say it isnt so
shannon murphy no that’s character
Must be rich snow plowers out there.
Lil Steely Dan sound at the beginning I like it! Love that Pontiac Aztec styling front end, beauty only skin deep ugly to the bone
I'm sorry ,I've always had a diesel 6sp Cummins plowing. Never had a problem with diesel fuel gelling if you do what you are supposed to do. I used my 99 dodge with a western plow and never ever had a problem with anything. Try plowing with your head and not to use it like a dozer.. If you abuse your truck or plow then you get what you get ... junk. It doesn't matter what you use ,if you abuse it, it will brake and become a pile of junk.
Solid axle pickups are much more durable plow trucks.
Water gets under rubber flooring and can't evaporate, it will rust without you knowing. I will never own a rubber floor vehicle again.
What makes you think that won't happen with carpet? Even with deep floor trays they will sometimes let water (usually a salty brine coming off my shoes) into the carpet and underneath the carpet.
That only happens if you're lazy and don't wipe it out at the end of the day and you should still be using floor mats on top in combination
@@foxbodyguyeightyeight3672 my point was simply to say carpet can dry out, and you should use floor liners anyway. Its just that auto reviewers always say rubber floor is great because you don't have to worry about it, but I disagree.
My experience was unique because my ac drain line was clogged and backed up into the truck, but because my floor was rubber I didn't know there was water under it. Had it been carpet I would have noticed it being wet. So it wasn't a lazy factor, just that you couldn't tell there was a problem.
@@lonespartan31289 I know what you mean at work I see it with the Hinos the cabs rot at the windshield then water runs down the firewall and under the carpet
I am confused at why there is a Il-76 transport aircraft sitting there...... @2:06
www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704334604575339463022126910
if anyone else is wondering why as well.