Science Diet Senior 7+

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @sooners2win
    @sooners2win Месяц назад

    I'm so glad I found your channel. Love the knowledge you spread!

  • @peteriwanec3472
    @peteriwanec3472 2 месяца назад +2

    Dr. Rea, thank you for your work on this channel. I would like to encourage you to spend more time discussing and possibly including in your point system the calcium-to-phosphorus ratio. I’ve noticed that more companies are including this ratio in their expanded nutritional analysis.
    After doing some research I concluded that this ratio is important as it shows the optimal inter-relationship of calcium and phosphorus on the animal body. As mentioned in the journal Nutrition, issue 31.3, “…The two major constituents of bone, calcium and phosphorus, are linked by a functional and regulatory relationship, and are best considered together. The absolute requirements of both minerals, as well as the ratio (the recommended range is between 1:1 and 2:1), AAFCO recommends that the Calcium (Ca) level shall not be more than 2.2 times the actual Phosphorus (P) level. That is why the ratio should be carefully calculated, as an excess or a deficiency of one or both minerals during the developmental and maintenance phase can be a major factor in terms of nutritionally induced deficiencies
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    Further research shows that the optimal levels are 1.1 to 1.4 though they can go as high as 2:2 as recommended by AAFCO, depending on the breed, activity level, health, body weight & fat and temperament of the dog. Another study has shown that “…it is important to note that an increased fecal dry matter excretion (due either to a low dietary digestibility or a high food intake) also increases the fecal losses of calcium and phosphorus 12,13,14 and therefore increases the daily requirements for the minerals.” [Kienzle E, Dobenecker B, Wichert B, et al. Effect of fecal water and dry matter excretion on fecal mineral excretion in dogs studied in a fiber model. J. Nutr. 2006;136(7):2001S-2003S.]
    That’s why the recognized range for calcium and phosphorus that you use is important but supplementing that with a Ca to P ratio which shows a better proportionality of these two minerals on the body. Depending on the diet and its bioavailability, calcium and phosphorous amounts can become off either up or down, specifically meat which contains a lot of phosphorus, so diets that include more meat require more calcium to maintain the correct ratio and be beneficial for the body. Grains also contain protein but that protein is not as bioavailable as from fresh quality meat, beef or poultry.
    A perfect example is as follows
    Brand Calcium Phosphorus Ca-P Ratio
    Open Farm Turkey & Ancient Grains 1.79% 1.30% 1.38
    Fromm Large Breed 1.39% 1.16% 1.19
    Hill’s Adult .75% .56% 1.33
    *Dry matter basis
    We can see here that Hill’s though having low CA and P levels actually on a ratio basis is almost as high Open Farm. This is why ratios are perfect for comparing different quantities and equalizing them for comparison. So even with Hill’s low numbers its calcium to phosphorus ratio is higher than Fromm’s.
    What makes matters worse is that even if dog food contains the recommended amounts and ratios of Calcium and Phosphorus, dry food is much more calorie-dense, which results in overfeeding, weight gain and possible renal issues.
    The standard Minimum of 0.5 g of Calcium per 1000 calories (with the recommended amount of 1g) and 0.75 gm of Phosphorus per 1000 calories.
    The Merck Veterinary Manual also states that the amounts of nutrients ( calcium max 1g and Pho .8g max) may need to be modified up or down by 30%, which makes these figures vague and confusing. But by going with the Ca to P ratio at least you are keeping the correct optimal proportions in the mineral level. Please consider using this metric in the future.

  • @AmericanHuskyCash
    @AmericanHuskyCash 2 месяца назад +4

    Glenn is gonna love this one 😆

    • @AnimalDocRea
      @AnimalDocRea  2 месяца назад +5

      I think everyone should love it, in fact everyone should like and subscribe 😂

    • @AmericanHuskyCash
      @AmericanHuskyCash 2 месяца назад

      @@AnimalDocRea good answer hahahaha

  • @aprilmotsinger3613
    @aprilmotsinger3613 4 месяца назад +2

    I went through the entire Science Diet dry product line. Their prescription diets do have some that met all senior parameters. Sticking with none prescription I thought the Adult Chicken & Barley Recipe was closer to the senior criteria than their 7+ formula. The protein was a little high at 23.9 but otherwise everything, including minerals, fell within the parameters.
    When I was search for a senior food I was perplexed as to why they didn't have the minerals within optimal range on all of their foods; especially, if they had them correct on this one.
    Thank you for the great info!

    • @ngarci8040
      @ngarci8040 4 месяца назад

      @@aprilmotsinger3613 not sure if you’ve seen the Farmina reviews but the SELECTION ADULT formula was also closer to 7+ parameters than the actual Ancestral Grain Senior Food. I can only assume it would have to do with the special ingredients ie: (turmeric. Among others,) they add in to the 7+ diets that might be bumping things up a bit…?

  • @ChristineB9046
    @ChristineB9046 2 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for this review Dr Rea. I would like to bring another option which has a lower calcium level: Hill's Science Diet
    Adult 7+ Perfect Digestion Chicken, Whole Oats & Brown Rice Recipe Dog Food.
    Protein 21 %
    Fat 13 %
    Crude Fiber 2.2 %
    Calcium 0.92 %
    Phosphorus 0.65 %
    The calcium is still a bit high but better than the one that you have just analyzed, and the fibre is also better. This is what I have been feeding my 7-year old Cocker for the last year, and he has been doing well on it. His blood work last week was great! 🐶😻💕

    • @AnimalDocRea
      @AnimalDocRea  2 месяца назад

      awesome, thanks for sharing.

  • @jayden1996b
    @jayden1996b 2 месяца назад

    Great video! I love the Hills senior range - so many options! I currently feed a mix of small and mini 11+ dry and small and mini 7+ wet (85% dry, 15% wet). I have spoken to multiple Hills nutrition consultants and they said the formulas of these products are very similar and safe to mix together.

    • @AnimalDocRea
      @AnimalDocRea  2 месяца назад +1

      Wow, bravo for doing the consult!

  • @wpny10606
    @wpny10606 2 месяца назад

    Hello Dr. Rea, For my 9 year old dog. Should I use use your "Senior Dog" analysis range chart on your Science Diet Senior 7+ video to compare dog food and or do you have a link to what analysis you recommend? I also watched your video; 2024 Best Small Breed dog food: Royal Canin Adult. In this video, your analysis range differs from the the senior one. Your videos are great! Thank you! I'm currently using the Royal Canin Small Breed Adult but exploring a lower cost option. Thanks for informing me that the ]term "small breed" is marketing. Oh one more question, can I refer to your anylsis range for both dry and wet dog food? Thanks again!

    • @AnimalDocRea
      @AnimalDocRea  2 месяца назад

      Guidelines for senior dog food # shorts #petnutrition
      ruclips.net/user/shortsJJcTYMfdWOw?feature=share

    • @AnimalDocRea
      @AnimalDocRea  2 месяца назад

      Both dry and wet food need to be analyzed on a dry matter basis so you either have to do the conversion, or contact the company for best accuracy

  • @thetomandjerrylaugh
    @thetomandjerrylaugh Месяц назад

    Hi Dr. Rea-- if you get the chance, could you take a look at IAMS Healthy Aging?

  • @TheJeffBridgman
    @TheJeffBridgman 2 месяца назад

    Thank you Doc for all the wonderful work and information you are making available to us as pet parents. I am bringing home an English Cream Golden puppy in a few weeks, and was curious if it would be appropriate to feed an "Adult" life stage food if it matched the Small Animal Clinical Nutrition parameters for a LBP more closely than Hills Science Diet LBP (Hills was the closest to the parameters of any kibble that I could find). Thanks a million!

    • @AnimalDocRea
      @AnimalDocRea  2 месяца назад +2

      If the AAFCO statement says adult, it would be odd to fall in parameters for puppy. I’d say that I’d try if possible to find a food with the correct lifestage because I only focus on a handful of parameters and there maybe others that are not appropriate for a puppy if you do an AAFCO statement for adult maintenance

  • @AR-k39
    @AR-k39 2 месяца назад

    What about AGEs that is in processed kibble and that can cause cancer, is there no way to avoid that other than homemade food for dogs I guess? My dog died suddenly if uncontrollable seizures and they guessed a brain tumor hit she didn’t live long enough to do a CAT scan, but it makes me wonder if it would of been different if I wasn’t feeding kibble

    • @AnimalDocRea
      @AnimalDocRea  2 месяца назад

      I’m sorry for your loss. It’s hard to say what may have been done differently when a diagnosis is not reached. I will say there is no evidence in animals that AGEs cause any cancers, most likely due to the time horizon difference when attempting to extrapolate from human data. This is of very little clinical concern in our veterinary patients.

    • @AR-k39
      @AR-k39 2 месяца назад

      @@AnimalDocRea okay, it might have been genetics or maybe more likely the edible flea and tick meds, which seizure began 12 hours after administration but she had been on them for 3 years. It was so sad because her body was actually healthy and her blood work was healthy, so vets think it was classic signs of brain tumor. 🥲

  • @edschulhof6303
    @edschulhof6303 2 месяца назад +2

    According to Cornell University, College of Veterinary Medicine: “There is no true reason to feed a senior diet to our aging dog unless there are noted problems, such as lean body wasting, arthritis or obesity,” says Joseph J. Wakshlag, Ph.D. '05, D.V.M. '98, professor of clinical nutrition and sports medicine and rehabilitation. “These conditions all require different approaches to nutrition. So there is no one-size-fits-all for senior dogs. Making this something to discuss with your veterinarian. It can be complex.” Sorry, feeling impish today. LOL

  • @lisabarden7808
    @lisabarden7808 2 месяца назад +1

    I really love all of the reviews I have seen so far for Science Diet. I would love to hear your review of Science Diet for Large Breed Puppies and 1-7 year old adults. We'll be getting a Golden Reteiever puppy soon and Im leaning more towards that. It looks like they are slightly over on fat could you look into that? Is that okay in your opinion?

  • @Jesschoe
    @Jesschoe 2 месяца назад +1

    our pets have always done the best on hills and rc. Currently feeding hills as rc is too pricey. But my picky golden and yorkie love the sensitive skin and stomach. As do I, i have noticed all hills kibble smell so good, not rancid like a lot of the boujee brands that are going around online.

  • @semillon4678
    @semillon4678 2 месяца назад

    Just discovered your channel and I'm so thankful for the depth that you go into with your reviews. I would love if you could go through the Tom&Sawyer fresh pet food line. They seem to have a lot of numbers that they provide but I'm not sure how much of it is substantive or if it's just marketing. It would be amazing to find a human grade cooked food line that us Canadians could explore.

  • @huhSHUA
    @huhSHUA Месяц назад +1

    Why didn’t you mention the ingredients?

    • @AnimalDocRea
      @AnimalDocRea  Месяц назад +1

      Ingredients are only a vehicle to provide nutrients and I review the nutrition those ingredients provide vs ingredients by namesake alone. Those that pick winners and losers based only on the band of ingredients often don’t speak of actual nutrition because they get lost in the names and miss the actual nutrient composition completely

    • @huhSHUA
      @huhSHUA Месяц назад

      @ thanks for replying. Sorry if this is a little long but I’m confused. And I’m really trying to figure out what’s best for my dog.
      I used to feed my older dogs whatever was available. Usually pedigree, Iams, eukanuba, kibbles n bits, even gravy train. When I got my current dog I wanted to do better and brushed up on nutrican and started reading ingredients like I was buying for myself and started feeding essence dog food. Great ingredients 86% protein from animals. some nutritionist and they. But I’m confused about how what seemed like crappy ingredients on these “cheap” mainstream brands like purina, and science diet are what ppl feed most and say they love it. As opposed to acana, zignsture etc. and then I see you recomend farmina which seems a whole lot better than those mainstream brands. So I’m not understanding how those brands with what seems like worse ingredients you say have better nutrición

    • @AnimalDocRea
      @AnimalDocRea  Месяц назад

      Maybe watch this video: ruclips.net/video/Pooks1mO0Fg/видео.htmlsi=h8DUEjYTpT_hqVgF
      Nutrition is about ingredients on face value, it’s about the nutrients the ingredients provide.

    • @huhSHUA
      @huhSHUA Месяц назад +1

      @ thank you I’m started to understand it better now. Seems like farm is is one of the few that has a bit of both. Great nutrients and good ingredients.

  • @manuelsalzer6602
    @manuelsalzer6602 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for sharing your expertise. The Hills Science Diet Healthy mobility large breed contains only 0.61% Calcium and is recommended for adult and senior dogs. What I don´t understand is why the Science Diet Healthy mobility medium (protein 18.6, fat 13.7, fibre 2.2, calcium 0.61, phospor 0.54, sodium 0.22, Vit E 700mg, Vit C 100mg) is not recommended for senior dogs only for adults, but fulfill all requirements for senior dogs (as far as I understand the label). I am also sometimes confused with Omega 3 and Omega 6 fatty acids. Omega 3 better for joints and Omega 6 better for skin? Greetings from Germany

    • @AnimalDocRea
      @AnimalDocRea  2 месяца назад +1

      Senior is not defined legally as a life stage so you will NEVER find one that says senior. You have to be in the know! If the nutrients fit and it says adult, then that's fine for a senior. The omega3/6 ratio is what you need to be looking at... check the SACN text link for more details on that. Thanks for watching all the way from Germany!

  • @jonathansanchez4497
    @jonathansanchez4497 2 месяца назад

    Good morning Dr. Rea can you do a review on Muenster Ancient Grains Recipe? The CEO of this company claims it’s human grade and he survived on this food for 30 days. Thank you

    • @AnimalDocRea
      @AnimalDocRea  2 месяца назад +1

      Beaverdam vs Muenster Milling dog food review
      ruclips.net/video/nXY3OR1eY-A/видео.html

    • @jonathansanchez4497
      @jonathansanchez4497 2 месяца назад

      @@AnimalDocRea Thank you Dr. Rea. Im getting a Belgian Malinois puppy in two weeks but im not sure what’s a good kibble or puppy food I could give for him to grow up healthy. I’m looking into Farmers dog and Ollie as well. What do you recommend? Please help 😢

  • @keithalvarez1294
    @keithalvarez1294 2 месяца назад

    Please please PLEASE do a review on a popular "grocery" premium dog food from the Kroger family of stores, Abound Dog Food.
    More specifically, the Abound so-called "Natural" Puppy Dry Dog Food.
    Your insights are amazing and even though Kroger is the largest Supermarket Grocery store in America, nobody has done a real nutritional review on their Premium Abound Dog or Cat Food.
    Thank you Dr. Rea 🤗

    • @AnimalDocRea
      @AnimalDocRea  2 месяца назад

      I’ll look into it!

    • @keithalvarez1294
      @keithalvarez1294 2 месяца назад

      @@AnimalDocRea - As always, you're the best! I'm so glad the Pet Food Puzzle guy recommended you!!!!

  • @sherryisaacs826
    @sherryisaacs826 2 месяца назад

    Can you do a review on Rayne Nutrition dog food? Thank you.

  • @ngarci8040
    @ngarci8040 4 месяца назад +1

    Great info & seems like a legitimate option…!!!

  • @knitswithdirt
    @knitswithdirt 2 месяца назад

    Please review Science Diet Pollock and Insect.

    • @AnimalDocRea
      @AnimalDocRea  2 месяца назад

      I’ve had a couple request for that, I need to do it

  • @edschulhof6303
    @edschulhof6303 2 месяца назад

    Stay safe with Helene. ❤‍🩹🙏

  • @melissalacoursiere8634
    @melissalacoursiere8634 2 месяца назад

    Can you review IAMS Large Breed Chicken formula please?

  • @liseerickson6098
    @liseerickson6098 2 месяца назад

    Whole Blend has a line called Fresh and it's turkey and Rabbit. The calcium / phosphorus levels are good. Can you review this food please . Made in St-Marys ontario Canada 🇨🇦

  • @josediaz-ortega6405
    @josediaz-ortega6405 2 месяца назад

    I like your videos

  • @edschulhof6303
    @edschulhof6303 2 месяца назад

    Dry food for a senior pet? "Dry dog food for senior dogs isn't always the right choice. Depending on the dog, it can be difficult for senior dogs to chew and swallow. Especially if they have dental issues, chewing kibble can be hard for older dogs." American Kennel Club. I won't even mention cats! 🎶"Will you still need me, will you still feed me; When I'm 64" 🎶 Happy Purrsday!

    • @AnimalDocRea
      @AnimalDocRea  2 месяца назад +4

      The information from the AKC is one of my greatest medical pet peaves. If a pet has dental disease, so bad that it cannot chew solid food, the answer is to fix the dental disease, not change the food. It breaks my heart when I hear that a patient has suffered from tooth pain for months (that the owner recognized) and was changed to canned food as a solution. Horrible advice. A dog with no teeth is better and healthier than a dog with diseased teeth that are painful. AND.....a dog with no teeth and no pain will still eat hard food. Horrible Advice from the AKC, but then they are not a medical organization so I am not sure why anyone should be taking advice from them in the first place.

    • @edschulhof6303
      @edschulhof6303 2 месяца назад

      @@AnimalDocRea The AKC is sponsored by Purina, one of the Holy Trinity for kibble feeders. One would presume Purina is on board with the AKC’s positions. Similar information is on the Pedigree website. Pedigree, like Royal Canin is owned by Mars. Along with Hill’s we are told to trust these three companies.

  • @johnmarzullo6545
    @johnmarzullo6545 2 месяца назад

    Please look at more senior foods my 8yr old lab won't eat this, she backs away from it like it's on fire, have a whole bag can't give it away shelters won't take an open bag. Not enough options for seniors all have very high protein.

    • @AnimalDocRea
      @AnimalDocRea  2 месяца назад

      You can return science diet for a refund as long as it’s in the original package to were you bought it

  • @onlineservicesolutionsunil
    @onlineservicesolutionsunil 2 месяца назад +1

    Great to see a food designed specifically for seniors!

  • @stewartnps
    @stewartnps 2 месяца назад

    I used your scoring and found Blue Buffalo Basics Senior was the closest to the parameters.
    Blue Buffalo Basics Skin & Stomach Care Senior Dry Dog Food - Turkey & Potato
    Protein 18.0%
    Fat 10.0%
    Fiber 7.0%
    Calcium 0.8%
    Phosphorus 0.6%
    Vitamin E 300IU/kg Min
    Vitamin C 100mg/kg Min

  • @brendahipp8287
    @brendahipp8287 2 месяца назад +1

    Science diet 11plus