She's worried about the taxpayers when it comes to school but not food stamps and other assistance?!? Where the hell does she think all that comes from?
There’s a reason she “homeschools” her kids & doesn’t want them educated on birth control or sexual health. She wants them to be as uneducated and helpless and dependent on the state & public charity as she herself is. I think she’s terrified of the idea of any of them growing up and going out into the world and becoming successful on their own merit. She’s like an animal hoarder, but with kids. I honestly thought she had a learning disability at first upon seeing how she talks about pregnancy (not her kids, but being pregnant) and how she “claps back” at people raising concerns, but she’s obviously been arrested in an adolescent mindset since her first pregnancy. It’s actually really sad, but nowhere near as sad as the reality her tokenized offspring face. You know a home situation is *bad* when you think the kids actually would be better off in foster care.
She picks and chooses what to spend her money on. Expensive mall trips and useless junk for her oldest kids is okay, then she turns around to beg for more money by sympathy baiting. God forbid she buys anything other than canned food and used toys for her youngest or get her mold infested house cleaned for her sick infants.
Absolutely not. Part of being a responsible parent is being able to provide a safe and stable environment for your kids even if you get assistance who cares that's not the issue. The issue is continuing to make babies when you can not manage the large family you already have. Her stance on birth control is also alarming. It is used for so much more than pregnancy prevention. Like for instance both my teenage daughters are lesbians but if they asked for birth control due to heavy periods or whatever I'd bring it up with their gynecologist. My best friend has 6 kids, and is the greatest mom so I know it's possible however putting your own desire to have babies above the needs of your existing kids is not okay.
@N E S S that's absolutely horrible that adults acted like that to you. When I was a teenager, I worked with my mom and 3 other older ladies at an ice cream shop. Well one of the ladies was very Baptist and decided that 14 year old me was "the devil" and I wasn't allowed to speak to her kids when they came in because she heard my mom tell me I had a gyno appt. The lady lectured me about how I'd be a teen mom and ruin my kids lives. Which never happened but her kids both had kids before they turned 15 and both ended up in prison, so when I hear people losing their minds over birth control or other normal things I remember how that kind of ignorance tends to backfire spectacularly.
Omg she doesn’t want to put her kids in school because it cost too much but she gets food assistance? It cost the same amount if not more to be on food assistance. At school her kids could get 2 free meals and possibly additional snacks. Also depending on state her kids could get birth control without her consent. Most states have some law that would allow a minor child to get health care (including birth control) without a parents consent. This woman is…Wow.
@@Stephanie-hi7kq I have a college degree and struggled to help my son with his 6 th grade math homework bc they do differently now. I’d have the correct answer but the process would be wrong. This was grade 6. There’s no way she could properly educate all those kids.
Is she using a donor to conceive all those kids bcuz there’s no husband or partner in the picture. She comes across as odd. I think she’s against school of any kind. Public school is totally free. She probably wanting to control the kids and wants no outsiders influencing the kids against her beliefs.
I never heard of her until now. She sounds like a teen mom, not caring about her kids, not caring if they getting educated or not and being used for money. She does not put them in school bc of money, maybe CPS????? I am surprised CPS is not involved with this family.
I just watched one of her longer videos here on YT ("Mom of 13 day in the life vlog EXTENDED VERSION") and it was quite depressing. Basically the kids go to sleep some time between 3 am and morning, wake up in the afternoon and then spend the rest of the day waiting to use the only bathroom and for Veronica to make dinner, that they then eat while standing in the kitchen (teenagers) or sitting on the floor (toddler) or maybe not at all. Veronica struggles to stay on top of everything and tries to enforce some rules like "no gaming before food" (Marv, the 10 year old the size of a 6 year old and weight of a 4 year old) but they mostly ignore her, destroy some stuff and do their own thing. Some of the older kids seem to go out after dark for a while (little kid: "What, you're going OUTSIDE?!"), for the rest the day just passes somehow, one doesn't get up until the rest go to bed and they are reminded constantly by Veronica that they want to go to the pumpkin patch the next day and really need to sleep for a few hours if they want to go. Grand finale of the video, she reminds two of the littles to put on a pullup before going to bed because they definitely want that online in a few years. I hope someone forces her to send her kids to school. Not because school is great but it's better than this.
I started watching that video, and it shows her filling her baby's bottle with tap water. Babies under one should not be given tap water with formula. When I asked her about that, she didn't understand what I was asking her. 🤦🏼♀️
@@amt_vino That's really strange considering this is her 12th baby. Where I live tap water is considered safe after 6 months but you also need to check the pipes. My sister lives in an old house and had her water tested - it had substantial amounts of lead in it due to the old pipes so they had to buy water for bottles and baby food. In my city you also get a backpack with baby stuff and kind of a manual explaining all these things when you have a newborn. Much needed apparently
@@Angelonwheels24 I heard :( The poor baby, first he was exposed to radiation in utero (when Donnie was being treated at the hospital and Veronica was with him), neglected from birth, fed junk and sugar and on top of that he got lead poisoning. I really hope he finds a new family that can help him recover and have a normal life
For health reasons, she had a kidney removed & she thinks she's still going to have five more children? Having only one kidney causes a host of other health concerns (even if you're otherwise healthy). Having only one kidney could result in needing dialysis which is not free or cheap. Her having more children puts further strain on her remaining kidney.
U only NEED one kidney btw there's no additional strain on one kidney if the second is removed due to illness/injury, but if that one kidney goes to shit or is diseased, then ur looking at a transplant which for a kidney is not SO difficult to do but of course nobody wants to end up needing. Having one functional kidney is totally congruent with normal healthy pregnancies I have a patient with one kidney since her teens she’s had 4 kids it was never against medical advice or at any higher or different inherent risk. But I don’t know her specific medical history and condition to say whether that’s true for her or not. I think it’s ill advised for her to have had all these kids bc she started at age 14, lacks maturity education financial means the desire or ability to parent etc. she has diff dads and isn’t with any of them she has the kids just for the sake of having them not bc she can provide for them beyond that pregnancy and saying she has 13 kids parenting is more than that
I pay school taxes and don't have any children. I would be happier for children took advantage of resources to make them smarter better citizens for the future. Even if it is expensive our taxes would not go up for her family
It looks like she means that sending her kids to school makes them an even bigger burden at the state. Of course, I think most of us want them to have an education so they can get good jobs
@@ammyrobinson9171 some states have a registration fee for school but it’s around $200 at the most. And you can make payments. Her kids would also qualify for free breakfast and lunch so it would save her money.
The uneducated homeschooling children? I've seen so many stories of abused, neglected, and children starve to death and the first thing they say is their children are homeschooled. No she isn't beating, or starving them but they're being neglected and depriving a child an education is child abuse in my book. Thank you for sharing! Many Blessings to you and your family! Stay safe! Elle on husband's account 40 yr marriage ❤
the "we can't afford for the kids to go to school" argument makes 0 sense bc they are PUBLIC school, if anything she's going to go to jail for neglect since she is not educating any of the children
12 kids plus adults with only 1 bathroom, how do they do it? Have 2 bathrooms and 5 people in my house and there are times they are all full and you have to go now, but people are showering or something. They bought a house so bad it was foreclosed and then never did needed repairs. Went back for some context for your most recent update about her
I cannot handle how edgy she tries to be as a grown woman. I have no problems with alternative adults but trying to be “creepy” and having your hair cover half your face is so cringey. Like “offspring”? You’re oh so cool. And how many people want to buy mediocre Tim Burton style family portraits? She plays victim.
She would save so much money on food if she had the kids in free public school… most public schools In American cities and even small towns have free breakfast, free lunch, and free food pantries at schools.
I’m so sure kids wait for their parents to give them consent to have intercourse….she must be completely clueless as to the average age of kids losing their “v” these days 🥴🙄
As a mother of 9 (my husband works full-time) We home-educate and I'm a carer to a disabled toddler. There is no way we could live comfortably in the UK with 9 children on UC/State handouts. My husband has always worked to support our family and people like this infuriate me. There was a time when I suffered a stroke and he was my carer (for 11 months as I was paralyzed) but my goodness it was horrific and I was so glad his job was on hold because the system just isn't fit for purpose. We need to shake up the system and stop paying people to have kids!! (if you work and receive different assistance or if you lost your job etc) Half my family have never worked and have always been "Dole Dossers". So sad that she continues to have children and these men who produce these children SHOULD BE PAYING! This woman is having children for money and attention 😔
I hope you dont mind me saying this, but as a mother of such a big brood, would you not be financially better off with state help?? I understand and admire the fact that's not something you choose to do, and that ethic will definitely show in your kid's attitude to work later in life too.. So kudos to you and hubby. I'm just torn between working oneself into the ground for little more than what you could recieve in benefits. I got a severe spinal cord injury a few years back, working all the hrs god sent, for a minimum wage job, that was just too much for my already damaged back. The satisfaction I had on payday was often shortlived, when after paying bills, I had hardly anything left and was in crippling pain. A part of me wishes in hindsight I'd just done what many others do, and taken a disability payment or partial one at least, and worked less. That aside, would you not be financially better off with state help IF you chose that?? Just curious?
@@lykarabbit3 We would be capped on benefits anyway (2 children only or born before a certain year) My husbands earnings exceed £54k and the cap on handouts would be around £20-23k so no it definitely pays to work and of course budget well and spend wisely. People can still get top-ups with assistance if on low income but I think that's fair as your paying into the system. I am so sorry to hear of your health struggles. Of course your health always has to come first and sometimes working makes that a very difficult situation. I think we need to always remember that government assistance is that, assistance I'm difficult circumstances and shouldn't be a lifestyle choice.
Some states her in the US pay for each child other states don’t . People know which places pay per child and will live close to the borders to take advantage. Any extra payments should stop at a reasonable amount of children.
@@ness7342 More like anger that hard-working tax-paying families in this country see nothing in return. We have had hard times and we all struggle from time to time (especially now) but we get no help, we just continue to pay higher taxes! I don't see why we should be paying for people to have children. If you have no means to feed or care for a child then don't have one! It's rather simple and I alongside others do get angry because not only is it putting pressure on my husband and others to work harder to keep paying taxes, but it's also bringing more children into a world to live in poverty (sadly state handouts are linked to the high poverty living) I'm very grateful but also know I can/have and will work to feed my children.
This article alone causes me to be unsurprised child protective services is involved. Kids have to have an education here in the US (and many other countries of course) whether it’s public school, private school or homeschooling. You can’t just take your kids out of school and do nothing. I’m surprised she wasn’t criminally charged. Parents can even get in legal trouble if their kid decides to skip school a lot.
Public school in the United States is paid through property taxes. We do have to buy certain things but where I live Walmart has a sake on school supplies very cheap in August like crayons and such that the school cant afford in some areas.
Normally when an animal is in danger of having too many "offspring" that will be a drain on societal resources, they will neuter it. I wonder if that's an option in this woman's case? 😄
It’s one thing to have so many children and fall on hard times. Most of us can relate to this and needing a little help at some time. But if I’m in a situation where I need help from the state or other people, the last thing on my mind would be getting pregnant! But maybe that’s why she has so many, because she knows how to work the system! No shame in food stamps if you need them. But she get enough to feed her children with. But it seems like she isn’t. This whole thing seems really strange to me.
Two days' worth of food. Two days' worth of snacks may be. It seems like the kids eat a lot of crisps and not a lot of meals. They occasionally get a healthy meal when she can be bothered. This is why all the children look pale with sunk in eyes. The children's diet lacks a lot of vitamins. They are up all night from all the sugar and not getting enough sleep.
Where is she getting that number 25,000.00 a year for public school?! No regular family could afford costs like that! Private schools don’t cost that. She is delusional.
As a mom who had to get some food assistance for me and my two kids….when I got SICK! I always worked inwas a teacher anyway the more kids you have in nys the better !! My two and I struggled! So she’s an embarrassment to nys! I’m a liberal but this is DISGUSTING
Education is an option?? What?? Tht is so unfair on those kids.. They absolutely have a right to be educated.. This is her being too lazy to engage the children on the school system.. Not that the system is without fault, but if they're not being educated at home, it's a better option than NOTHING 😢
I was one of 3 and I got new school clothes and the majority of my other clothes were hand-me-downs, yard sales, and thrift stores. It was not even a big deal.
Atleast Alush was able to afford the children she has, it may have been tighter but her husband does well financially. This one is actually a sad situation, it’s not impressive. She clearly cannot afford it and clearly pops them out all the while needing assistance. Personally I wouldn’t have a problem as long as the children are provided for even if i wouldn’t do it. Public school is taxpayer paid, her statement was wrong it’s actually no different than what she is already doing. Homeschooling cost money that she can’t afford. She’s got a real attitude for someone that is so in need.
Just for future reference, it depends on the state you live. In kansas you pay tax for school and you also pay at least $300 a year for enrollment for each year.
Sorry ammy I have sooo many comments but I use to live in their area…she has “social workers” that means ammy that She has already been a CPS case!!!!!! That means she has an active CPS case! People don’t give her money!!!!!!!!!!!
Public school is free in the U.S. it doesnt mattwr how many kids you have, we are all paying for children to have an education. Its not like we will be paying more.
I can’t not stand the wish lists. Why should fans send them money and gifts??? Get a job and take care of your own family. What do fans get out of giving gifts or money I just don’t get it.
If you look at the house at least one window is boarded up and looks like it has been for some time. She can’t take care of the kids she has already and just keeps having more. She herself is unkempt. She needs help. As far as her argument I highly doubt it’s 25k a year per kid. We’ve had a family my ex was friends with that was similar. The mom works part time as a cashier. They live in a home in need of repair and its filled with mold. They have a condition and each child is born with this genetic condition. The youngest is kept in a playpen and just bangs his head against the frame or the wall. My ex got the “father” a job and within 2 weeks he’d quit. They are on welfare and the kids also get benefits due to their genetic conditions. They go on fancy vacations and have floor to ceiling Star Wars toys yet can’t pay their own bills. If you have multiple baby daddies obviously you’re not that picky. And if you bought a “fixer upper” in that area of New York for $20k in 2020, it was a tear down and was not sound to be a dwelling without at least 100k in renovations.
It doesn’t cost people anymore for her kids to attend school. Our schooling is just like yours, paid with taxes. If you are military the Federal Govt has us fill out paperwork and they give the school money because we aren’t residents of the state usually. Homeschooling is great, as long as you actually do it. I knew a lady who homeschooled & she ran it like a school. She had a class area, all their school work organized and she kept the school schedule, but I’ve also known slackers 😂. And unschooling to me just means my kids won’t be able to read or do math when they’re done. She is doing her children such a disfavour in what she’s doing. It’s does take work on your part to do home or regular school, I think she’s lazy. That CPS report is probably the #1 reason why they don’t go. And if you want tons of children, be able to care for them, not setting up fund raisers. I have an entitled family like that that, everyone should give them money. 😅 I have 2 kids and I can’t understand wanting to go through labour & delivery 12 times ! 12 times! 😂Good Lord. She isn’t thinking straight. I feel for her kids. Plus I think it’s 16 here, kids can get birth control here from the doctor with out parental permission & you know teenagers are always willing to follow parental advice so no problem there! 😊
And another thing lol sorry, but yea you get fuel assistance in nys she’s getting TONS of assistance she’s ok!!! She’s playing social media to get more money
Oh and ammy im in MA now but I’m from upstate ny…my guess??? All those kids no visible father?? Omg she must be getting about $1,000 in FOOD STAMPS!!!!!!
I swear when people who talk about not schooling/unschooling/homeschooling shit and use the defense about “cooking is math, they go grocery shopping” like that’s NOT EDUCATION. As a parent you can already be doing that outside of school, I like did all of that with my mom, we went grocery shopping on the way home, she taught me what to pick, how to pick and like what prices are, we would run to the mail she’d have me read the addresses and teach me about geography, when we got home or when I was with my babysitter I would sit in the kitchen and either play cook and practice measuring or be actively helping my mom cook. Learning measuring, precision and counting. I was enrolled in different activity’s and when I wasn’t I had things like books, instruments, gardens, worksheets etc to help further my education. But notice how none of that is actual schooling just beneficial like idk everything they say their doing is just stuff I honestly think you should be doing anyways
If you are like the Kardashians or Katie Price ? No. If you are broke, yes. And by the way, I'm not saying that Katie Price is parent of the year with her issues. But at least she is rich enough to feed and clothe them and mucky mansion is not so dilapidated.
This is a very ignorant comment. May I ask are you American by any chance?? I bet you are. No other nationality would say something that ignorant. Big families are very normal in many parts of the world. If you’re American you wouldn’t know that though. Cause I’m sure you’ve never traveled or even left the US.
Even if people have a lot of money others will criticize and try and shame them for a large family, unless they're football stars or adopt disabled, or kids from a different race, then they're seen as generous or altruistic.
Regarding the side effects of birth control she's not wrong. Moreover It's possible that if a teen comes to her and says they are possibly about to be sexually active she'll take them to the doctor and won't post about it and a catch all adult is just the easiest public answer, we don't know it
There are side effects to birth control but it’s more complex than she’s stating it. a lot of it depends on your medical history. If you’re a smoker, if you’ve had breast cancer etc. Also not all birth control is equal. Birth control can be a good thing too. Acting like it’s only bad or only for seggsy times just doesn’t ring true.
I’m a supporter of home-schooling, and I’m fine with big families, but I believe in using professional curriculums at home to ensure a full education. I also believe that if you need to use your older children for more than occasional babysitting you are focusing on quantity vs quality and that’s not being a good parent. It made perfect sense in the past to have many children due to infant/child mortality rates and lack of birth control, but these days I don’t approve of intentionally getting pregnant when you can’t truly focus on the quality of life of the ones you already have. Your children shouldn’t have to be second mothers or fathers to your kids. (Obviously extreme circumstances can occur such as chronic illness that can force older children to take on responsibilities that aren’t theirs, and so on. Not ideal for anyone, but I’m not judging the parents in situations like that.)
It doesn’t cost people more money for her kids to go to public school. You pay the taxes no matter what so she might as well send them. It’s not like your taxes go up every time a new kid gets enrolled, you pay a set amount of taxes per year. Yes it can go up every year but it’s not by much so it’s stupid to use that as her excuse.
And just think about what her kids who don't get any education at all are going to cost the tax payer in the future. It's 12+ years of schooling vs a lifetime of unemployment.
Public school is free in the US. She enrages me that our taxes are paying for her irresponsible choice to have a large family she can’t afford. If you chose to have a large family, you should be responsible enough to support them exclusively. That is not what welfare is intended for.
Taxes pay for her kids anyways, but with them going to school at least they'll get a standard American education. No way this woman is capable of educating K-12 all at once. I am happy to pay towards public education and I'd bet most other Americans agree with that sentiment
Public schools here are funded by taxes I believe, I don’t believe she cares about that and this is my first time hearing about this woman. She wouldn’t be paying out of pocket for them if they’re just going to public school aside from supplies and maybe other things like we had to pay for our gym class uniforms in my middle school. Idk much about her but as of late when i hear homeschooling, it can be done correctly and be a great option for some, but A common ab*se tactic in many cases for the faculty who I’m sure majority if not all who work in a school are mandated reporters, people will homeschool so to avoid those people to hide neglect or mistreatment, of course not always. From the comments I read others seem to be thinking the same thing as far as the homeschooling. There aren’t many checks and balances to actually make sure these kids are on accredited material, actually learning, etc. maybe some places have that in place, but to my knowledge I never heard of it. I homeschooled for a year (i really wanted to be and the year prior i missed most of the year because i broke my foot, leg, and ankle very badly had to have surgeries and the works, my teachers at school would have to gather my work and someone go get it for me to do it at home) and the only time I was tested by someone in the school system was for reentry into my public school. Making sure I was up to par. But this video is very interesting I’ll be checking out more of your content! Your voice is really pretty by the way! ❤
Yeah i first felt something was off, sorry something MORE off than the average family with hella kids influencer ( which is saying something) when she admitted to wanting to get pregnant as a fertility experiment after already having kids, saying people who questioned it were jealous because shes so fertile, words she used... and claimed she made her living from selling her mediocre art work
Not necessarily regarding this person, but the public educational system in Canada and USA, is horrifyingly a disgrace to say the least! If you're able to home school your kids with things that they will actually NEED to know for when they are grown up, DO IT!! Public education is a sham.
@@ThelaughingPineapples the person is saying that if you have the knowledge, time, and resources to do homeschool properly then you absolutely should and she’s right as the American school system isn’t preparing children for the real world nor actually educating them beyond being able to pass tests and classes. Obviously this women is not capable of homeschooling nor being a mother at all, her kids would be better in public school because of how she is.
🤦♀Trainwreck! Does the US not require them to be learning a certain curriculum and sending in reports of them doing so? Here in Canada they have to be registered for in or home school and proven. In my opinion, sterilization should be a law if you can't afford the kids you have. ETA: I think Veronica needs a psychiatric assessment!
Each state is different but yes in general they must be able to prove education is happening and it’s the law the child must do end of yr testing. I agree a psychiatric evaluation would be good bc she definitely seems off.
@@shaunalea823 It might just be me but she seems to have never lost her childlike mentality. I mean she was a baby having babies. Something is definitely off-putting about the whole thing.
It varies per state. Some are more strict, some are not. In SC, I have to keep records and proof of education (basically samples of their work through each year), however end of year testing is optional.
Kids are going to experiment and more than likely engage in sexual intercourse before adulthood. She needs to give her children birth control and educate them, otherwise that household is going to grow and grow and become even less sustainable and financially draining. What the fuck does she think she’s doing? I genuinely think this “no birth control and no sex until you’re in your 20s” is just delusional and unfair. Teach your kids about the world, about the birds and the bees, it’s not like they’re going to learn it in school considering you don’t send them 🙃
She literally admitted that she took her kids out of school so that teachers wouldn't report her to child protective services. Huge red flag 🚩🚩
Yep crazy! Poor kids
She’s mentioned social workers so I’m sure she’s had a case or has one sadly.
She's so selfish!
her kids seem happy
And look whats happening now.....what a surprise.. just hoping the best for the kids
Her defense is "It's not my fault that raising 12 kids is expensive 🥺👉👈"
THEN STOP HAVING KIDS HOLY SH-
She's worried about the taxpayers when it comes to school but not food stamps and other assistance?!? Where the hell does she think all that comes from?
There’s a reason she “homeschools” her kids & doesn’t want them educated on birth control or sexual health. She wants them to be as uneducated and helpless and dependent on the state & public charity as she herself is. I think she’s terrified of the idea of any of them growing up and going out into the world and becoming successful on their own merit. She’s like an animal hoarder, but with kids.
I honestly thought she had a learning disability at first upon seeing how she talks about pregnancy (not her kids, but being pregnant) and how she “claps back” at people raising concerns, but she’s obviously been arrested in an adolescent mindset since her first pregnancy. It’s actually really sad, but nowhere near as sad as the reality her tokenized offspring face. You know a home situation is *bad* when you think the kids actually would be better off in foster care.
I can’t believe she has the nerve in one breath she says she can’t afford things for her kids. Then the next breath she expects us to gift her items.
She picks and chooses what to spend her money on. Expensive mall trips and useless junk for her oldest kids is okay, then she turns around to beg for more money by sympathy baiting. God forbid she buys anything other than canned food and used toys for her youngest or get her mold infested house cleaned for her sick infants.
Absolutely not. Part of being a responsible parent is being able to provide a safe and stable environment for your kids even if you get assistance who cares that's not the issue. The issue is continuing to make babies when you can not manage the large family you already have. Her stance on birth control is also alarming. It is used for so much more than pregnancy prevention. Like for instance both my teenage daughters are lesbians but if they asked for birth control due to heavy periods or whatever I'd bring it up with their gynecologist. My best friend has 6 kids, and is the greatest mom so I know it's possible however putting your own desire to have babies above the needs of your existing kids is not okay.
@N E S S that's absolutely horrible that adults acted like that to you. When I was a teenager, I worked with my mom and 3 other older ladies at an ice cream shop. Well one of the ladies was very Baptist and decided that 14 year old me was "the devil" and I wasn't allowed to speak to her kids when they came in because she heard my mom tell me I had a gyno appt. The lady lectured me about how I'd be a teen mom and ruin my kids lives. Which never happened but her kids both had kids before they turned 15 and both ended up in prison, so when I hear people losing their minds over birth control or other normal things I remember how that kind of ignorance tends to backfire spectacularly.
Omg she doesn’t want to put her kids in school because it cost too much but she gets food assistance? It cost the same amount if not more to be on food assistance. At school her kids could get 2 free meals and possibly additional snacks. Also depending on state her kids could get birth control without her consent. Most states have some law that would allow a minor child to get health care (including birth control) without a parents consent. This woman is…Wow.
Honestly everything is a walking talking contradiction with her! X
I mean, the taxpayers pay for public schools whether she sends there or not, so why not send?
@@brucheweinberger6863 She just doesn’t know how anything works. Where does she think her assistance money comes from? The tooth fairy?
Also she should not be allowed to home school with her lack of education. Unbelievable it's even possible. 😮the US is something sometimes 🙄
@@Stephanie-hi7kq I have a college degree and struggled to help my son with his 6 th grade math homework bc they do differently now. I’d have the correct answer but the process would be wrong. This was grade 6. There’s no way she could properly educate all those kids.
This woman isn't even taking full advantage of state help. She doesn't want her kids to go to school for ridiculous reasons.
Her stance on birth control is just fucking outrageous....
Is she using a donor to conceive all those kids bcuz there’s no husband or partner in the picture. She comes across as odd. I think she’s against school of any kind. Public school is totally free. She probably wanting to control the kids and wants no outsiders influencing the kids against her beliefs.
I never heard of her until now. She sounds like a teen mom, not caring about her kids, not caring if they getting educated or not and being used for money. She does not put them in school bc of money, maybe CPS????? I am surprised CPS is not involved with this family.
She has social workers so she has a case and yes she was a teen mom when her first was born if I remember correctly.
I just watched one of her longer videos here on YT ("Mom of 13 day in the life vlog EXTENDED VERSION") and it was quite depressing. Basically the kids go to sleep some time between 3 am and morning, wake up in the afternoon and then spend the rest of the day waiting to use the only bathroom and for Veronica to make dinner, that they then eat while standing in the kitchen (teenagers) or sitting on the floor (toddler) or maybe not at all. Veronica struggles to stay on top of everything and tries to enforce some rules like "no gaming before food" (Marv, the 10 year old the size of a 6 year old and weight of a 4 year old) but they mostly ignore her, destroy some stuff and do their own thing. Some of the older kids seem to go out after dark for a while (little kid: "What, you're going OUTSIDE?!"), for the rest the day just passes somehow, one doesn't get up until the rest go to bed and they are reminded constantly by Veronica that they want to go to the pumpkin patch the next day and really need to sleep for a few hours if they want to go. Grand finale of the video, she reminds two of the littles to put on a pullup before going to bed because they definitely want that online in a few years.
I hope someone forces her to send her kids to school. Not because school is great but it's better than this.
I started watching that video, and it shows her filling her baby's bottle with tap water. Babies under one should not be given tap water with formula. When I asked her about that, she didn't understand what I was asking her. 🤦🏼♀️
@@amt_vino That's really strange considering this is her 12th baby. Where I live tap water is considered safe after 6 months but you also need to check the pipes. My sister lives in an old house and had her water tested - it had substantial amounts of lead in it due to the old pipes so they had to buy water for bottles and baby food. In my city you also get a backpack with baby stuff and kind of a manual explaining all these things when you have a newborn. Much needed apparently
@@annaf3915 THIS IS SO DISTURBING HER CHILD JUST TESTED POSITIVE FOR LEAD POISONING
@@Angelonwheels24 I heard :( The poor baby, first he was exposed to radiation in utero (when Donnie was being treated at the hospital and Veronica was with him), neglected from birth, fed junk and sugar and on top of that he got lead poisoning. I really hope he finds a new family that can help him recover and have a normal life
For health reasons, she had a kidney removed & she thinks she's still going to have five more children? Having only one kidney causes a host of other health concerns (even if you're otherwise healthy). Having only one kidney could result in needing dialysis which is not free or cheap. Her having more children puts further strain on her remaining kidney.
U only NEED one kidney btw there's no additional strain on one kidney if the second is removed due to illness/injury, but if that one kidney goes to shit or is diseased, then ur looking at a transplant which for a kidney is not SO difficult to do but of course nobody wants to end up needing. Having one functional kidney is totally congruent with normal healthy pregnancies I have a patient with one kidney since her teens she’s had 4 kids it was never against medical advice or at any higher or different inherent risk. But I don’t know her specific medical history and condition to say whether that’s true for her or not. I think it’s ill advised for her to have had all these kids bc she started at age 14, lacks maturity education financial means the desire or ability to parent etc. she has diff dads and isn’t with any of them she has the kids just for the sake of having them not bc she can provide for them beyond that pregnancy and saying she has 13 kids parenting is more than that
I pay school taxes and don't have any children. I would be happier for children took advantage of resources to make them smarter better citizens for the future. Even if it is expensive our taxes would not go up for her family
No, you do not pay to go to public school you pay school taxes when you own a home in ny state
I'm sure this type schooling is not legal in New york state
They have a social worker because they are on assistance
@@jennylight6434thanks for letting me know! X
It looks like she means that sending her kids to school makes them an even bigger burden at the state. Of course, I think most of us want them to have an education so they can get good jobs
@@ammyrobinson9171 some states have a registration fee for school but it’s around $200 at the most. And you can make payments. Her kids would also qualify for free breakfast and lunch so it would save her money.
The uneducated homeschooling children? I've seen so many stories of abused, neglected, and children starve to death and the first thing they say is their children are homeschooled. No she isn't beating, or starving them but they're being neglected and depriving a child an education is child abuse in my book.
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Does this women not realise that some people take birth control to help with their periods
I don't think she's too bright.
the "we can't afford for the kids to go to school" argument makes 0 sense bc they are PUBLIC school, if anything she's going to go to jail for neglect since she is not educating any of the children
Yeah her argument makes NO SENSE! X
12 kids plus adults with only 1 bathroom, how do they do it? Have 2 bathrooms and 5 people in my house and there are times they are all full and you have to go now, but people are showering or something. They bought a house so bad it was foreclosed and then never did needed repairs. Went back for some context for your most recent update about her
I cannot handle how edgy she tries to be as a grown woman. I have no problems with alternative adults but trying to be “creepy” and having your hair cover half your face is so cringey. Like “offspring”? You’re oh so cool. And how many people want to buy mediocre Tim Burton style family portraits? She plays victim.
Crotch goblins 😅 That’s a new one on me
I've heard "crotch demons" but I kinda like goblins more 😂.
She would save so much money on food if she had the kids in free public school… most public schools In American cities and even small towns have free breakfast, free lunch, and free food pantries at schools.
I’m so sure kids wait for their parents to give them consent to have intercourse….she must be completely clueless as to the average age of kids losing their “v” these days 🥴🙄
As a mother of 9 (my husband works full-time) We home-educate and I'm a carer to a disabled toddler. There is no way we could live comfortably in the UK with 9 children on UC/State handouts.
My husband has always worked to support our family and people like this infuriate me. There was a time when I suffered a stroke and he was my carer (for 11 months as I was paralyzed) but my goodness it was horrific and I was so glad his job was on hold because the system just isn't fit for purpose.
We need to shake up the system and stop paying people to have kids!!
(if you work and receive different assistance or if you lost your job etc)
Half my family have never worked and have always been "Dole Dossers".
So sad that she continues to have children and these men who produce these children SHOULD BE PAYING!
This woman is having children for money and attention 😔
I hope you dont mind me saying this, but as a mother of such a big brood, would you not be financially better off with state help?? I understand and admire the fact that's not something you choose to do, and that ethic will definitely show in your kid's attitude to work later in life too.. So kudos to you and hubby. I'm just torn between working oneself into the ground for little more than what you could recieve in benefits. I got a severe spinal cord injury a few years back, working all the hrs god sent, for a minimum wage job, that was just too much for my already damaged back. The satisfaction I had on payday was often shortlived, when after paying bills, I had hardly anything left and was in crippling pain. A part of me wishes in hindsight I'd just done what many others do, and taken a disability payment or partial one at least, and worked less. That aside, would you not be financially better off with state help IF you chose that?? Just curious?
@@lykarabbit3 We would be capped on benefits anyway (2 children only or born before a certain year) My husbands earnings exceed £54k and the cap on handouts would be around £20-23k so no it definitely pays to work and of course budget well and spend wisely. People can still get top-ups with assistance if on low income but I think that's fair as your paying into the system.
I am so sorry to hear of your health struggles. Of course your health always has to come first and sometimes working makes that a very difficult situation.
I think we need to always remember that government assistance is that, assistance I'm difficult circumstances and shouldn't be a lifestyle choice.
Some states her in the US pay for each child other states don’t . People know which places pay per child and will live close to the borders to take advantage. Any extra payments should stop at a reasonable amount of children.
@@ness7342 More like anger that hard-working tax-paying families in this country see nothing in return. We have had hard times and we all struggle from time to time (especially now) but we get no help, we just continue to pay higher taxes!
I don't see why we should be paying for people to have children.
If you have no means to feed or care for a child then don't have one! It's rather simple and I alongside others do get angry because not only is it putting pressure on my husband and others to work harder to keep paying taxes, but it's also bringing more children into a world to live in poverty (sadly state handouts are linked to the high poverty living)
I'm very grateful but also know I can/have and will work to feed my children.
@@ness7342 Yes, absolutely ok then 👍
This article alone causes me to be unsurprised child protective services is involved. Kids have to have an education here in the US (and many other countries of course) whether it’s public school, private school or homeschooling. You can’t just take your kids out of school and do nothing. I’m surprised she wasn’t criminally charged. Parents can even get in legal trouble if their kid decides to skip school a lot.
Public school in the United States is paid through property taxes. We do have to buy certain things but where I live Walmart has a sake on school supplies very cheap in August like crayons and such that the school cant afford in some areas.
Yeah, it can't be cheaper to homeschool, especially with that many kids
Normally when an animal is in danger of having too many "offspring" that will be a drain on societal resources, they will neuter it. I wonder if that's an option in this woman's case? 😄
It’s one thing to have so many children and fall on hard times. Most of us can relate to this and needing a little help at some time. But if I’m in a situation where I need help from the state or other people, the last thing on my mind would be getting pregnant! But maybe that’s why she has so many, because she knows how to work the system! No shame in food stamps if you need them. But she get enough to feed her children with. But it seems like she isn’t. This whole thing seems really strange to me.
Two days' worth of food. Two days' worth of snacks may be. It seems like the kids eat a lot of crisps and not a lot of meals. They occasionally get a healthy meal when she can be bothered. This is why all the children look pale with sunk in eyes. The children's diet lacks a lot of vitamins. They are up all night from all the sugar and not getting enough sleep.
Where is she getting that number 25,000.00 a year for public school?! No regular family could afford costs like that! Private schools don’t cost that. She is delusional.
She had to be looking up the most expensive boarding school in the country
As a mom who had to get some food assistance for me and my two kids….when I got SICK! I always worked inwas a teacher anyway the more kids you have in nys the better !! My two and I struggled! So she’s an embarrassment to nys! I’m a liberal but this is DISGUSTING
What kind of filters is she using on social media? WOW!
Education is an option?? What?? Tht is so unfair on those kids.. They absolutely have a right to be educated.. This is her being too lazy to engage the children on the school system.. Not that the system is without fault, but if they're not being educated at home, it's a better option than NOTHING 😢
I only have 5 kids and cannot fathom not doing hand me downs
I was one of 3 and I got new school clothes and the majority of my other clothes were hand-me-downs, yard sales, and thrift stores. It was not even a big deal.
Public School is free in the states.
Atleast Alush was able to afford the children she has, it may have been tighter but her husband does well financially. This one is actually a sad situation, it’s not impressive. She clearly cannot afford it and clearly pops them out all the while needing assistance. Personally I wouldn’t have a problem as long as the children are provided for even if i wouldn’t do it. Public school is taxpayer paid, her statement was wrong it’s actually no different than what she is already doing. Homeschooling cost money that she can’t afford. She’s got a real attitude for someone that is so in need.
Just for future reference, it depends on the state you live. In kansas you pay tax for school and you also pay at least $300 a year for enrollment for each year.
That picture of a woman with a red chair behind her - does not look like Veronica. I don’t think it’s the right person.
Stuff like this is why I convinced myself there's something seriously wrong with those who want several children
Sorry ammy I have sooo many comments but I use to live in their area…she has “social workers” that means ammy that She has already been a CPS case!!!!!! That means she has an active CPS case! People don’t give her money!!!!!!!!!!!
Public school is free here as well.
You get assistance from social services that is why u need a social worker
"they're children, they shouldn't be doing adult things like that" says the woman who's been popping out babies since age 14
I think this woman is strange I've seen her sit there and pinch and stretch her skin on her face what's up with that
Knowing everything we do now, this is even crazier
Nahh I give it a year to two they will be taking the kids away soon
Public school is free in the U.S. it doesnt mattwr how many kids you have, we are all paying for children to have an education. Its not like we will be paying more.
I can’t not stand the wish lists. Why should fans send them money and gifts??? Get a job and take care of your own family. What do fans get out of giving gifts or money I just don’t get it.
Where are the men that impregnated her in the first place? Why aren't they taking responsibility?
If you look at the house at least one window is boarded up and looks like it has been for some time. She can’t take care of the kids she has already and just keeps having more. She herself is unkempt. She needs help. As far as her argument I highly doubt it’s 25k a year per kid. We’ve had a family my ex was friends with that was similar. The mom works part time as a cashier. They live in a home in need of repair and its filled with mold. They have a condition and each child is born with this genetic condition. The youngest is kept in a playpen and just bangs his head against the frame or the wall. My ex got the “father” a job and within 2 weeks he’d quit. They are on welfare and the kids also get benefits due to their genetic conditions. They go on fancy vacations and have floor to ceiling Star Wars toys yet can’t pay their own bills.
If you have multiple baby daddies obviously you’re not that picky. And if you bought a “fixer upper” in that area of New York for $20k in 2020, it was a tear down and was not sound to be a dwelling without at least 100k in renovations.
This is a mental health condition at this point
It doesn’t cost people anymore for her kids to attend school. Our schooling is just like yours, paid with taxes. If you are military the Federal Govt has us fill out paperwork and they give the school money because we aren’t residents of the state usually. Homeschooling is great, as long as you actually do it. I knew a lady who homeschooled & she ran it like a school. She had a class area, all their school work organized and she kept the school schedule, but I’ve also known slackers 😂. And unschooling to me just means my kids won’t be able to read or do math when they’re done. She is doing her children such a disfavour in what she’s doing. It’s does take work on your part to do home or regular school, I think she’s lazy. That CPS report is probably the #1 reason why they don’t go. And if you want tons of children, be able to care for them, not setting up fund raisers. I have an entitled family like that that, everyone should give them money. 😅 I have 2 kids and I can’t understand wanting to go through labour & delivery 12 times
! 12 times! 😂Good Lord. She isn’t thinking straight. I feel for her kids. Plus I think it’s 16 here, kids can get birth control here from the doctor with out parental permission & you know teenagers are always willing to follow parental advice so no problem there! 😊
And another thing lol sorry, but yea you get fuel assistance in nys she’s getting TONS of assistance she’s ok!!! She’s playing social media to get more money
Oh and ammy im in MA now but I’m from upstate ny…my guess??? All those kids no visible father?? Omg she must be getting about $1,000 in FOOD STAMPS!!!!!!
That isn't that much, especially with that many kids
I swear when people who talk about not schooling/unschooling/homeschooling shit and use the defense about “cooking is math, they go grocery shopping” like that’s NOT EDUCATION. As a parent you can already be doing that outside of school, I like did all of that with my mom, we went grocery shopping on the way home, she taught me what to pick, how to pick and like what prices are, we would run to the mail she’d have me read the addresses and teach me about geography, when we got home or when I was with my babysitter I would sit in the kitchen and either play cook and practice measuring or be actively helping my mom cook. Learning measuring, precision and counting. I was enrolled in different activity’s and when I wasn’t I had things like books, instruments, gardens, worksheets etc to help further my education. But notice how none of that is actual schooling just beneficial like idk everything they say their doing is just stuff I honestly think you should be doing anyways
This lady is so messed up. Is she really friends with Alicia ?
I think it's weird to have more than ten kids.
If you are like the Kardashians or Katie Price ? No. If you are broke, yes.
And by the way, I'm not saying that Katie Price is parent of the year with her issues. But at least she is rich enough to feed and clothe them and mucky mansion is not so dilapidated.
This is a very ignorant comment. May I ask are you American by any chance?? I bet you are. No other nationality would say something that ignorant. Big families are very normal in many parts of the world.
If you’re American you wouldn’t know that though. Cause I’m sure you’ve never traveled or even left the US.
it’s weird to even have more than five in my opinion
Even if people have a lot of money others will criticize and try and shame them for a large family, unless they're football stars or adopt disabled, or kids from a different race, then they're seen as generous or altruistic.
My daughter is skinny like 5% body fat. My son is also on the smaller size. We feed them but they just dont gain weight
Same with my kids when all they like to eat is fruits and veggies and hardly any carbs
Someone on another yiu tube channel said after, lets say 10 kids for example, you dont get more federal or state aid. Not sure if its true or not.
Regarding the side effects of birth control she's not wrong. Moreover It's possible that if a teen comes to her and says they are possibly about to be sexually active she'll take them to the doctor and won't post about it and a catch all adult is just the easiest public answer, we don't know it
There are side effects to birth control but it’s more complex than she’s stating it. a lot of it depends on your medical history. If you’re a smoker, if you’ve had breast cancer etc. Also not all birth control is equal. Birth control can be a good thing too. Acting like it’s only bad or only for seggsy times just doesn’t ring true.
@@Danniii8888so true I take mine to help my hormones and make it easier throughout the month for me. I haven’t really noticed any side effects
I’m a supporter of home-schooling, and I’m fine with big families, but I believe in using professional curriculums at home to ensure a full education. I also believe that if you need to use your older children for more than occasional babysitting you are focusing on quantity vs quality and that’s not being a good parent. It made perfect sense in the past to have many children due to infant/child mortality rates and lack of birth control, but these days I don’t approve of intentionally getting pregnant when you can’t truly focus on the quality of life of the ones you already have. Your children shouldn’t have to be second mothers or fathers to your kids. (Obviously extreme circumstances can occur such as chronic illness that can force older children to take on responsibilities that aren’t theirs, and so on. Not ideal for anyone, but I’m not judging the parents in situations like that.)
It doesn’t cost people more money for her kids to go to public school. You pay the taxes no matter what so she might as well send them. It’s not like your taxes go up every time a new kid gets enrolled, you pay a set amount of taxes per year. Yes it can go up every year but it’s not by much so it’s stupid to use that as her excuse.
And just think about what her kids who don't get any education at all are going to cost the tax payer in the future. It's 12+ years of schooling vs a lifetime of unemployment.
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WTF😢
Public school is free in the US. She enrages me that our taxes are paying for her irresponsible choice to have a large family she can’t afford. If you chose to have a large family, you should be responsible enough to support them exclusively. That is not what welfare is intended for.
Taxes pay for her kids anyways, but with them going to school at least they'll get a standard American education. No way this woman is capable of educating K-12 all at once. I am happy to pay towards public education and I'd bet most other Americans agree with that sentiment
Public schools here are funded by taxes I believe, I don’t believe she cares about that and this is my first time hearing about this woman. She wouldn’t be paying out of pocket for them if they’re just going to public school aside from supplies and maybe other things like we had to pay for our gym class uniforms in my middle school. Idk much about her but as of late when i hear homeschooling, it can be done correctly and be a great option for some, but A common ab*se tactic in many cases for the faculty who I’m sure majority if not all who work in a school are mandated reporters, people will homeschool so to avoid those people to hide neglect or mistreatment, of course not always. From the comments I read others seem to be thinking the same thing as far as the homeschooling. There aren’t many checks and balances to actually make sure these kids are on accredited material, actually learning, etc. maybe some places have that in place, but to my knowledge I never heard of it. I homeschooled for a year (i really wanted to be and the year prior i missed most of the year because i broke my foot, leg, and ankle very badly had to have surgeries and the works, my teachers at school would have to gather my work and someone go get it for me to do it at home) and the only time I was tested by someone in the school system was for reentry into my public school. Making sure I was up to par. But this video is very interesting I’ll be checking out more of your content! Your voice is really pretty by the way! ❤
I just want to know what's up with the crazy makeup and weird emo-like hair? 😂
She’s quite alternative x
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Yeah i first felt something was off, sorry something MORE off than the average family with hella kids influencer ( which is saying something) when she admitted to wanting to get pregnant as a fertility experiment after already having kids, saying people who questioned it were jealous because shes so fertile, words she used... and claimed she made her living from selling her mediocre art work
Not necessarily regarding this person, but the public educational system in Canada and USA, is horrifyingly a disgrace to say the least! If you're able to home school your kids with things that they will actually NEED to know for when they are grown up, DO IT!! Public education is a sham.
But she has active cases on her she has social workers….
@@ThelaughingPineapples the person is saying that if you have the knowledge, time, and resources to do homeschool properly then you absolutely should and she’s right as the American school system isn’t preparing children for the real world nor actually educating them beyond being able to pass tests and classes. Obviously this women is not capable of homeschooling nor being a mother at all, her kids would be better in public school because of how she is.
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🤦♀Trainwreck! Does the US not require them to be learning a certain curriculum and sending in reports of them doing so? Here in Canada they have to be registered for in or home school and proven.
In my opinion, sterilization should be a law if you can't afford the kids you have.
ETA: I think Veronica needs a psychiatric assessment!
Each state is different but yes in general they must be able to prove education is happening and it’s the law the child must do end of yr testing. I agree a psychiatric evaluation would be good bc she definitely seems off.
@@shaunalea823 It might just be me but she seems to have never lost her childlike mentality. I mean she was a baby having babies. Something is definitely off-putting about the whole thing.
It varies per state. Some are more strict, some are not. In SC, I have to keep records and proof of education (basically samples of their work through each year), however end of year testing is optional.
Kids are going to experiment and more than likely engage in sexual intercourse before adulthood.
She needs to give her children birth control and educate them, otherwise that household is going to grow and grow and become even less sustainable and financially draining. What the fuck does she think she’s doing? I genuinely think this “no birth control and no sex until you’re in your 20s” is just delusional and unfair.
Teach your kids about the world, about the birds and the bees, it’s not like they’re going to learn it in school considering you don’t send them 🙃
Okay she said 18, not 20s, but like c’mon. The delusion. The absolute delusion.
No one can afford anything now a days. Stop having so many kids and then begging your way through life.
I hope she sues you for defamation quit bashing on her get a real life and a real job
How do you feel now? Veronica lost her kids to CPS and OD on Tylenol!