Hi,just found your channel. I'm just getting into z guage. You make great videos. Very helpful and easy to watch. And I like the funny comments 😅. Great work 👍. 🇬🇧
It's great to hear about your interest in Z, welcome to 1:220 :) It has its challenges of course but really all model trains do, regardless of size. The Rokuhan Shorty chassis I worked with in this video is a lot of fun at a modest price and we're now seeing 3rd party shells being made for them. Have fun in the Z world with us and thanks for the nice words about our videos, it's appreciated!
I added the putty and still hesitation, but improved. I took the non gear truck off. I added a n scale Microtrain center coupler springs, 1 each to the post on the trucks. I then reattached the trucks keeping the springs on the post. Not one hesitation. So tungsten putty and springs runs beautifully.
The tungsten putty ran down onto the motor and crept towards the gears. I had to build a little dam at the open edge to prevent that. When I opened the chassis up to clean it, I noticed two additional weights inside. If you wrap the correctly size putty blocks in tape you can slip them down inside the chassis with minimal creep.
That's strange, very strange. I just checked the 2 Rokuhan Shorty locos I've used the putty in and no change, no creep at all. I wonder if there aren't different mixtures out there on the market? In any case thanks for making us aware of your experience and it's a good idea to keep an eye on.
Thanks! Super helpful! I’ve been wanting to add some tungsten putty to my HO scale Berkshires. One has trouble making electrical rail contact and one has a hard time pulling. Thanks again!
Really happy to hear this from you, thanks! This putty has been a game changer on these little lightweight chassis, I hope it translates to larger scales like your Berkshires. Now, if I only had a way to custom cast tungsten metal for solid inserts but it has an insanely high melting point! The putty is a pretty good, quick solution and way to test.
Does heat build up after running the train for awhile have any adverse effects on the putty? It definitely looks like a great idea for adding weight to these small trains.
Not that I've noticed, not at all! I have treated the rails initially with CRC 2-26 (www.homedepot.com/p/CRC-2-26-5-oz-Multi-Purpose-Lubricant-02004/100398344) and I tend to run the loco for around 10+ hours a day. Nice to have a little loop going while I work. All I have done so far after maybe 60 hours of running is to wipe the track down with a jewelry polishing cloth 2 or 3 times during this time and it's still running very smooth with no stalling or heat issues. The weight and cleaning chemical has really done the trick for this little loco / chassis!
Would you know if Tungsten Putty is more heavy then lead? I used to use lead in my steam engines (diesels too) so they would gain more pulling power, especially up grades. Thanks. Phil
From reading I did, the Tungsten is 1.7x heavier than lead of the same physical volume. Here's one article: buildingspeed.org/2020/07/02/ballast-tungsten-vs-lead/ I never did A/B tests myself but I never saw an article that contradicts this argument, so I went with the Tungsten!
@@Raildig Thanks for those details. That was na interesting article as well and interesting also how it relates to car racing. Now, I wonder how they're making the tungsten into a putty. It must (I would guess) have some other material mixed with it that affects weight. I am going to price the putty and if not too expensive, buy some. I have a lot of brass steam engines in HO scale, so not sure it would be cost effective if you're adding weight to say 20 HO engines, but maybe the price will surprise me. I will check it out and thanks very much for the info and the link. Be well. Philip
Yeah, it is pricey stuff but more than worth its weight in this application. It might be available at a lesser price in a higher quantity than I bought for this video?
It does look that way, doesn't it? LOL. I have to get a little more careful when shooting facing the camera. I do have a little 7" monitor that the phone casts to while I shoot, just have to remember to look at it!
Hi,just found your channel. I'm just getting into z guage. You make great videos. Very helpful and easy to watch. And I like the funny comments 😅. Great work 👍. 🇬🇧
It's great to hear about your interest in Z, welcome to 1:220 :) It has its challenges of course but really all model trains do, regardless of size. The Rokuhan Shorty chassis I worked with in this video is a lot of fun at a modest price and we're now seeing 3rd party shells being made for them. Have fun in the Z world with us and thanks for the nice words about our videos, it's appreciated!
Oh, man. I gotta buy some of those square ones just for their adorableness! I'll never look at them the same!
I added the putty and still hesitation, but improved. I took the non gear truck off. I added a n scale Microtrain center coupler springs, 1 each to the post on the trucks. I then reattached the trucks keeping the springs on the post. Not one hesitation. So tungsten putty and springs runs beautifully.
That's a great suggestion! Tanks for making this tungsten idea better!
The tungsten putty ran down onto the motor and crept towards the gears. I had to build a little dam at the open edge to prevent that. When I opened the chassis up to clean it, I noticed two additional weights inside. If you wrap the correctly size putty blocks in tape you can slip them down inside the chassis with minimal creep.
That's strange, very strange. I just checked the 2 Rokuhan Shorty locos I've used the putty in and no change, no creep at all. I wonder if there aren't different mixtures out there on the market? In any case thanks for making us aware of your experience and it's a good idea to keep an eye on.
Thanks! Super helpful! I’ve been wanting to add some tungsten putty to my HO scale Berkshires. One has trouble making electrical rail contact and one has a hard time pulling. Thanks again!
Really happy to hear this from you, thanks! This putty has been a game changer on these little lightweight chassis, I hope it translates to larger scales like your Berkshires. Now, if I only had a way to custom cast tungsten metal for solid inserts but it has an insanely high melting point! The putty is a pretty good, quick solution and way to test.
Does heat build up after running the train for awhile have any adverse effects on the putty? It definitely looks like a great idea for adding weight to these small trains.
Not that I've noticed, not at all! I have treated the rails initially with CRC 2-26 (www.homedepot.com/p/CRC-2-26-5-oz-Multi-Purpose-Lubricant-02004/100398344) and I tend to run the loco for around 10+ hours a day. Nice to have a little loop going while I work.
All I have done so far after maybe 60 hours of running is to wipe the track down with a jewelry polishing cloth 2 or 3 times during this time and it's still running very smooth with no stalling or heat issues. The weight and cleaning chemical has really done the trick for this little loco / chassis!
Been a year since the upload does the putty stay in place good or does it creap over time?
I want to add weight to my cheap New Bright Locomotives
It's stayed in place completely, and still working great!
Would you know if Tungsten Putty is more heavy then lead? I used to use lead in my steam engines (diesels too) so they would gain more pulling power, especially up grades. Thanks.
Phil
From reading I did, the Tungsten is 1.7x heavier than lead of the same physical volume. Here's one article: buildingspeed.org/2020/07/02/ballast-tungsten-vs-lead/
I never did A/B tests myself but I never saw an article that contradicts this argument, so I went with the Tungsten!
@@Raildig Thanks for those details. That was na interesting article as well and interesting also how it relates to car racing.
Now, I wonder how they're making the tungsten into a putty. It must (I would guess) have some other material mixed with it that affects weight. I am going to price the putty and if not too expensive, buy some. I have a lot of brass steam engines in HO scale, so not sure it would be cost effective if you're adding weight to say 20 HO engines, but maybe the price will surprise me. I will check it out and thanks very much for the info and the link. Be well.
Philip
$10.95 for a single ounce of putty!!!! The next best price I saw was $8.95. WOW!!!! I may have to get into the business of making TUNGSTEN PUTTY!!!!
Yeah, it is pricey stuff but more than worth its weight in this application. It might be available at a lesser price in a higher quantity than I bought for this video?
We all know you purposely hid the scale and the paper to build suspense. ;)
It does look that way, doesn't it? LOL. I have to get a little more careful when shooting facing the camera. I do have a little 7" monitor that the phone casts to while I shoot, just have to remember to look at it!