Nick Clark batman realised how wrong he was when superman, who wasn't even from earth, died * wink wink *for the planet and its inhabitants. It opened his eyes to who is really the bad guys. Incoming darkseid I can't fucking wait for justice league
@@christophervinci6835 exactly. Both Batman & Superman realized that they were both wrong in their perception of each other. What’s great about the narrative is that neither of the 2 was portrayed as inferior or the lesser hero. They were equal. I agree with you on that.👍🏻
@@christophervinci6835I loved how Zack not only used the story of Christ as the foundation of his Superman story, but also used the story of Paul’s transformation from persecutor to apostle for Batman. The Martha scene and Kal-El’s sacrifice killing Doomsday were the crossroads at Damascus moments for Bruce.
7:15 to the end. What a tear jerker, man. Bruce coming to the realization that he was becoming the very thing he swore to stand against and stopped before it was too late.
The interesting thing is that Bruce didn't just hate Superman, he was also AFRAID of him. He believed that one day Superman was going to go off the deep end and inevitably do something very horrific, but when the Martha scene came around, Bruce realized that he HIMSELF went off the deep end and was going to do something horrific. So, in a way, Batman became the thing he was afraid of, which was why the Martha scene was so powerful.
Its at the soundtrack where you find true fans of the movie.... after all the negative reviews its so nice to see im not the only one that loved the movie. Seeing the trinity in the movie made me tear up.
+josemiranda9093 that's because Hollywood is biased and liberal, mostly because of all the 9/11 and Jesus allegories. However, one thing critics were trained in was critiquing film. And as a film, there WERE mistakes aside from the film itself. Like bad editing and inconsistent pacing
+Eric Graham YES! I'm glad I can find a DC fan who can say something bad about the film even when they liked the movie. I acknowledge that this movie had terrible storytelling and atrocious editing, but I still enjoyed it. It seems that if you liked the movie you're not allowed to let it have flaws and if you didn't like it that anything good about it should discount your opinion. What did you rate it? I went 7/10. My average is 5/10 and this was a bit above average.
I fucking hate this film and alot of the soundtrack - I just like a select few of the songs... But I get what you mean, though. I wish I enjoyed the film.
@@zzhinn8694 That's a fair point but I think its General Zods theme however since they're both Kryptonian I guess it is now Kal-El's battle theme since Zod is dead.
All these years later and I still find myself revisiting this film and this soundtrack. It is absolutely epic. I think my favourite part is 4:31. The Batman theme kicks in sounding the most twisted it has in the entire film, Batman's gone savage, and how it comes in just tells you, he's won.
"I bet your parents taught you that you mean something, that you were sent here for a reason. My parents taught me a different lesson, dying in the gutter for no reason at all. They taught me that the world only makes sense if you force it to."
07:15 The moment in the movie when the world just realize batman is a human being with feelings, the moment when the whole world get divided between those who understand that and those who still prefer an empty superhero figure with no other motivation than "I most save the world because of reasons"
***** If people laugh at this "martha" scene it means there's still people who didn't think batman is more than a superhero with cape. And unfortunately isn't enough a entire trilogy for those people, and there's a new batman that need to tell his history once again, but people didn't give him the opportunity, they just focused on comparing him with Bale's batman. Besides this is not his solo movie, if people can understand what we see in BvS they will accept him as Batman, but i'm pretty sure that even if this upcoming batman film is the more accurate, people will complain about how much real is knowing that the TDK has a realistic batman who everybody loved (and still) but guess what? nobody complain about that, they like that way. If Ben do something different they complain, if he not they complain anyway finding another thing. As director Ben should know he can't make everybody happy. I was happy with TDK and i'm happy whit this batman, he has something that Bale's didn't, but he isn't so much different from him, If this new batman was exactly the same as the previous one, i wouldn't be happy. If you want to know the answer to your question, just look all those memes and jokes about "martha" and you will know it. or even look all those jokes about DC being "dark" when TDK was already "dark" (even more) and nobody make fun about it.
***** Well he IS batman now, accepting it or not, definitive or not, He is. And if we replace superman and batman with normal people it will be more dramatic, it will be a drama movie. But why i bother myself arguing with these people? they are comic books fans, the aren't the smartest and mature people of the world, i know when in some movie the are represented by fat geeks that still live with their parents at 30 or 40 years old. I'm not going to say more.
I would like to point out, as someone who does laugh at the Martha scene, I am in love with the idea that Zach Snyder had when he came up with it. In theory it would have been the perfect moment, but the way he executed it is what "softcores" the moment for me. I feel like if he could have found a better way to carry out the connection between Clark and Bruce it would have been one less complaint that I had. Even just "Save ... My ... Mother" would have felt better to me.
@@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961 “Their War Here” was in turn a sort of reworking of “Arcade” from Man of Steel, so its presence here is to serve as a Superman motif for the moment when he recovers his strength.
+Indy Wanderer Totally! This was definitely the darkest portrayal of Batman to date, at least in live-action. There were parts of the film where I was like, "Good Lawd, Batman!" Ben Affleck did a phenomenal job as the Caped Crusader!!!!
This batman was darker because he didn't give a crap about murdering anyone. He killed basically 20-30 people and almost seemed happy to nearly kill superman.
Yeah, he was kinda like the Punisher. Cruel and brutal lol. But he does soften a bit by the end of the film. Maybe Superman's sacrifice reminded him of what it truly means to be a hero. I think the film, despite its flaws, did a great job of juxtaposing Batman and Superman.
+Dawson Granger yes made sense, it's been 20 years, he lost jason todd, ( ha haha jokes on you, robin suit) he's a damage batman/bruce wayne, i like that... like alfred said the rules change... the think i really like in snyders universe is that is trying to be diferente from what he used to, + i like it the way lex was... many reviewers where saying he was like enigma from batman forever... but he actually remaind me of a really crasy mad villan like the joker lool i like that was diferente...
1:58 - 2:18 is absolutely magnificent. Can literally feel Batman's rage and anger. He will do anything to save the world. Even if he has to kill a God. I mean you can understand why he hated Superman. All that power and what if he turns against us. Bruce's anger was valid.
Hans Zimmer is a god. His music can make any movie epic but here, in this case, BvS is already epic. Please Zimmer make the soundtrack for Justice League with individual superheroes theme. That would be so EPIC !!!!
+George Daugherty Actually Hans confirmed in a recent interview, that he originally gave the honor of doing Batman to Junkie, but then they ended up working togethe, because they saw how well they worked together.
logicalfallacy234 What are you talking about ? Hans has made most of the tracks. Only Batman themes are made by Junkie. See MoS soundtrack making, he composes all the percussions, horns and everything. I can detect Hans music easily. It has a certain vibe and a feel that no one can replicate.
+Zach Collier yeah. It'll be a bad start. That's why blood bag is so perfect. Starts out with low drums then the second set and blam come the mad drums blasting away pumping your blood all through your veins
+VunderGuy But Bruce and the rest of the world don't know that. To them he's someone with incredible power who has no authority. Of course that's what the Martha scene is for, it showed Bruce Clark's humanity, and how similar to each other they are, and how Bruce has fallen and forgotten the purpose of his mission. Superman proved Batman wrong, and saved him from crossing the line, if he hasn't already.
+RCBM Mines Well said. You could even see the rage and murderous intent in Bruce's face before superman says "Martha". Batman was just fighting just for the sake of fighting and murder at that point. Not for justice as he may have thought before.
There is only a "Batfake" (Joker line from Batman Beyond) in this movie. One of the reason this movie sucked so much ass. We see Batfake kill many people with his guns and running over people with the batmobile. The Dark Knight we know and love would never kill anyone (not intentionally anyway.) If batman killed then every big villain in Gotham like the joker would be dead, and clearly since the joker is in the Suicide Squad movie he's not dead. This film just made no sense.
Man im a fan of both marvel and dc. But man i think ill never get sick of rewatching BVS. I Always come on here to listen to the souNdtracks and read the comments. Nice to see people still come here to listen to these masterpieces.
WB to Zack: WB: Zack please, I was wrong, you have to listen to me. Marvel wants to- is interrupted by earpearsing noises WB: you don't understand, there's no time! Zack: I UNDERSTAND!! And thus, WB cut out 30 important minutes of screen time, and forced him to shove in pointless setups.
7:25 ... people can be cynical a-holes about this moment, but when I saw this movie in the theater, alone, for the first time...got very teary eyed at that moment. then immediately bought the soundtrack
I was utterly shocked when I saw the scene in theaters. It never clicked until then that Bruce and Clark shared that commonality. My mother wept when she saw this scene what son wouldn’t do anything to save his mother?
2:24 it was here that punch after punch, Bruce realized the dose had worn off. Superman is no longer amused and even Batman has an oh shit look on his face. Seeing this movie a third time damn it.
OK...as a fellow fan I respect you, but #1, the armor made him nowhere near as strong as Superman. All it did was cushion the blows that normally would've killed Batman. Secondly, the motives were clear; Batman claimed he was being cognizant but in reality he felt powerless and emasculated (which had been illustrated since the earliest trailers) and sought to kill Superman out of a misplaced sense of superiority. He quite literally lived long enough to see himself become the villain. Superman (granted more explored in the extended cut) was angry at Batman's violation of individual rights. Batman had stopped caring about individuals in his war on crime which Superman couldn't stand since he is more altruistic. The story is centered off of Superman brining Batman back to his roots, and I can go even deeper if need be.
@@giganfan997 "sought to kill Superman out of a misplaced sense of superiority. He quite literally lived long enough to see himself become the villain." I think he wanted to kill Superman because people died. His family, Robin, people who died and he couldn't stop it. Then a building full of employees got killed because of Superman, he couldn't save them. The film even implies they were waiting for him, so their blood on his hands (nightmare scene). Then a bomb attack because he thought he was neglicent. All these events creating panic and a mis placed feeling of faillure. Superman was the vessel to project it on. I think the misplaced sense of superiority came because his projection of grieve and guild on Superman created a demon. Creating all sorts of hate fuelled feelings like feeling emasculated
@@giganfan997 Agreed. The 2:24 part of the scene further proved how resourceful & willful Batman is, which made me believe in him more. I’m with you on that. 👍🏻
Ok how i picture it in my head/speculation: 1:00 Superman catches the bullet that Batman shot (where the clip ends) but it explodes and expose Superman to Kryptonite....him getting weak 1:40 Batman blocks Superman's punch. WTF moment 1:57 Batman beating the crap outta Superman 2:27 Superman regains some focus. Still weakened/de-powered but still able to stand up and fight 3:00 Superman beating Batman 3:47 Batman change of plans...luring Superman into his traps set up all over the battle area 6:07 Batman is all messed up but manages to beat Superman to the ground. Does his Dark Knight Returns style monologue 6:39 Superman somehow regains his strength and overpowers the exhausted Batman with damaged armor 7:00 Batman is all like "just kill me. Do it." Batman gets a bit "i have nothing to live for" kinda thing. Superman gives a monologue about hope and offers him help - work together to fight injustice.
For those wondering, the "trigger" wasn't the name. Even though he reacted at the name, he reacted violently, when he realised it was his mother's name he immediatly humanised him, realised that what he thought "You were never even a man" was a lie, a false construct he had. Having a mother and wanting her safe. As soon as Bruce realised this, he understood that, even though he coulnd't help his own mother, he could've spared the despair and sadness from Clark's heart by saving his mother. And the fact that the two mothers had the same name only helps to create the bond between the two, not only destroys the division between them, but shows that after all, they're just two sides of the same coin. For the whole time before the movie we were all "Team Batman" or "Team Superman" but the movie showed us, thanks to that scene that we're all together, joined by our emotions no matter how different we are.
WHAT?! WHY?! WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!!! WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!!!! WHY?!! My jaw dropped during that scene! I was already excited to see the battle unfold, then i was like ok Bruce you're going a bit too far with the sink, hes had enough!
“I bet your parents taught you, that you mean something. That you’re here for a reason. My parents taught me a different lesson, dying in the gutter... _for no reason at all.”_
+Sach Harshan that's the part where I wanted to tell Batman, "fuck you, you were hiding when Zod was around and you hid from Superman until you got kryptonite on your hands" .
+Manuel Lopez omg for god sake he was out of town that's why in bvs you see him arriving in the damn helicopter so he wasn't hiding and plus he was helping his employees find safety
BHarribo+ That's right. Superman would've been dead from a snapped neck before he'd have a chance to run if batman wanted to directly kill him up front and end it once it started.
Who else wants this to happen in the extended R Rated edition... *Batman fires kryptonite grenade. Superman catches it and gets poisoned* "Breathe Clark....You're feeling it now don't you, what the rest of us feel everyday.....you're own mortality. You're not brave..." *Superman throws Punch. Batman stops punch* "Men are brave" EPIC....FIGHT....SCENE!!!!!
When Batman fires the kryptonite gas and says, "Breathe it in. That's fear", it's supposed to be a symbolism of him becoming like his villains (Scarecrow). He also gets his mask torn in half to resemble Two-Face. So while your dialogue influenced by TDKR, is epic, it wouldn't quite fit the themes BVS deals with.
6:36 Bruce:(holding the spear) You were never a god. Bruce:(puts his foot on Superman's throat) You were never even a man. Clark: YOU'RE LETTING HIM..KILL MARTHA. Bruce: What does that mean?! Why did you say that name?! Clark: FIND...HIM...SAVE....MARTHA. Bruce:(after remembering his parents' death) WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME? Martha? Why did you say that name? Lois: CLARK! Please, stop. Bruce: WHY DID SAY THAT NAME? Lois: It's his mother's name.... It's his mother's name.
If this was Star Wars here's dialogue for it: Vader: Well, here I am. Obi Wan: Anakin, please, I was wrong. You have to listen to me, Palpatine wants the Jedi- Vader force chokes Obi Wan for a few seconds & lets him go. Obi Wan & Vader walk near each other. Obi Wan: You don't understand! There's no time! Vader: I UNDERSTAND! Obi Wan force pushes him a few distances away And you know the rest
i never planned on listening to the critics. for someone who has an understanding of the basic lore in the dc universe. this movie would have been was absolutely awesome. i understand the wider audience and why they felt lost. ultimately though the critics imo were wrong. dont go in expecting ab avengers flick. that movie was successful because it was simple. heroes unite and beat up bad guys. no substance or depth to the characters. bvs had so much depth and so much going on , that you had to think..the audience had to think. thats what sets this apart from the avengers film. it wasnt simple., it wasnt a beat em up kid flick. this movie was fucking adult and the story is fucking brilliant. why? because they didnt just hand it to you..it came in plots that you put together and once you do..thats when you shit yourself
... No. The Avengers did good because they actually took their time on their cinematic universe. 4/6 of the main characters were more or less already developed by the time the movie came out thus making it a fun and interesting crossover without the need to further develop. This movie didn't have that kind of set-up and literally forced forced Batman's and Wonder Woman's origin into the story thus distracting it from any structured plot that could be followed without having to rely on prior knowledge of the comics. This is also a beat 'em up kids flick with a shoe-horned villain. They should've went with Braniac as the main villain for this one.
@@Rubyfire41 the great thing about movies especially comic book movies the director gets to add their own interpretation of the Characters to really make them unique and not literally the same as we know them from the comic books. Theres no point in making movies that’s literally the exact same as the comic book and everything happens exactly as it does there. If directors did that then critics would say oh the movie is exactly as the comic book nothing unique we already knew the plot and how everything would end.
@@keptnc I think you're responding to the wrong comment. I didn't see anything that suggested that I believed they should've just copied the plot of the comics.
@@Rubyfire41 no I responded to the right i just gave my whole outlook on the cbm but the first comment was more directed to what you said about the avengers
4:55 Batman's rage/fear/distrust of Superman manifested...... 5:06 Batman believing he's doing the right thing with the background sound of this rage/fear/distrust.
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"You're not brave, men are brave!"
Batman was so badass in this movie, gives me the biggest nerd grin every time he's Batmanning it up on screen.
Nick Clark got a nerd grin reading your comment
Nick Clark batman realised how wrong he was when superman, who wasn't even from earth, died * wink wink *for the planet and its inhabitants. It opened his eyes to who is really the bad guys. Incoming darkseid I can't fucking wait for justice league
@@christophervinci6835 exactly. Both Batman & Superman realized that they were both wrong in their perception of each other. What’s great about the narrative is that neither of the 2 was portrayed as inferior or the lesser hero. They were equal. I agree with you on that.👍🏻
This shows that Batman doesn't believe that Superman is as much kryptonian as he is human
@@christophervinci6835I loved how Zack not only used the story of Christ as the foundation of his Superman story, but also used the story of Paul’s transformation from persecutor to apostle for Batman. The Martha scene and Kal-El’s sacrifice killing Doomsday were the crossroads at Damascus moments for Bruce.
4:34 How can Hans compose 2 entirely different Batman Scores and make them both equally epic?!
Joshua Bellis Zimmer was primarily focused more with the Superman theme. Junkie XL did the Batman theme.
Yes. You can hear Junkie XL's signature percussion sound at the end of this section.
2:24 is the best part in my opinion
1:52-2:17 is my favorite part. I love the superman and batman themes that they gave them
@@UnknownUser-gd3ls Actually Zimmer ended up doing the main Batman theme as well.
7:15 to the end. What a tear jerker, man. Bruce coming to the realization that he was becoming the very thing he swore to stand against and stopped before it was too late.
Fans: "You've given us everything."
Hans Zimmer : " Not everything. Not yet. "
+Lion Rezaei he already made the theme for the JLA and each member, so until we hear tem all, not yet, hehe
+Rodrigo Nunes so wait Hans Zimmer DID write the JL stuff? I thought he retired?
Bruh, this is the best comment iv seen in a while.
2 years later and everything went to 💩
@King.Persia6 I know i am like 2 years late but Hans Zimmer is making Wonder Woman 1984
from 2:50-3:20 you can really feel their themes fighting for dominance
You can also hear how Superman embraces his inner Kryptonian as it transitions into Zod's theme, choosing might over right.
@phoenixw-man8113 3:07
The interesting thing is that Bruce didn't just hate Superman, he was also AFRAID of him. He believed that one day Superman was going to go off the deep end and inevitably do something very horrific, but when the Martha scene came around, Bruce realized that he HIMSELF went off the deep end and was going to do something horrific. So, in a way, Batman became the thing he was afraid of, which was why the Martha scene was so powerful.
Shane Espo Preach!!!! I'm very proud of you son.
Thank you
You figured it out.
ZS at his best.
Shane Espo and yet people want jokes and light not reality and emotions
Love this movie
"The Martha scene", eh? Nice...
Its at the soundtrack where you find true fans of the movie.... after all the negative reviews its so nice to see im not the only one that loved the movie. Seeing the trinity in the movie made me tear up.
+josemiranda9093 that's because Hollywood is biased and liberal, mostly because of all the 9/11 and Jesus allegories. However, one thing critics were trained in was critiquing film. And as a film, there WERE mistakes aside from the film itself. Like bad editing and inconsistent pacing
+Eric Graham YES! I'm glad I can find a DC fan who can say something bad about the film even when they liked the movie. I acknowledge that this movie had terrible storytelling and atrocious editing, but I still enjoyed it. It seems that if you liked the movie you're not allowed to let it have flaws and if you didn't like it that anything good about it should discount your opinion. What did you rate it? I went 7/10. My average is 5/10 and this was a bit above average.
I really didn't understand what they didn't like. Movie was great.
+John Lim And Tumblr. There's nothing but love there :)
I fucking hate this film and alot of the soundtrack - I just like a select few of the songs... But I get what you mean, though. I wish I enjoyed the film.
Such a majestic piece for a godly conflict.
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Well in reality Superman could decimate Batman in a fraction of a second.
@@SIZLL I would agree with you on any other superhero, but it’s Batman
@@goldengio6520 only with kryptonite of course
3:06 A hint of Arcade from MoS, love it.
Their War Here also has a bit of Arcade
+TheoKabala89 That's when Superman strikes back at Batman. You know after Batman punches him in the face a few times
General Zod's glorious theme.
@@haider-modzz id say its more of supermans battle theme since its in arcade, their war here and in this track when he finally strikes bruce
@@zzhinn8694 That's a fair point but I think its General Zods theme however since they're both Kryptonian I guess it is now Kal-El's battle theme since Zod is dead.
1:40 - 2:18 is by far the best and most epic parts of the battle.
Goosebumps everywhere
Thx dude im looking for the fight scene
Agreed.. I keep that part on repeat.
All these years later and I still find myself revisiting this film and this soundtrack. It is absolutely epic. I think my favourite part is 4:31. The Batman theme kicks in sounding the most twisted it has in the entire film, Batman's gone savage, and how it comes in just tells you, he's won.
Channel Pup he did not win
@@albertorodriguez8420 he won the fight against Superman
3:07 - 3:20
The best music ever. Zimmer really showed his expertise here, can't wait an extended version of this part.
just with the last minute of the track (at 7:15) the whole soundtrack deserves an Oscar nomination!!
+Dominique Deguire I agree I keep skipping this song to that point too. Epic.
Cant wait till Thursday the 24th
Man of Feels........
+Dominique Deguire I think that is the part when one of them loses the fight I guess.
+Sahyl yup
totally agree, full of emotion
"I bet your parents taught you that you mean something, that you were sent here for a reason. My parents taught me a different lesson, dying in the gutter for no reason at all. They taught me that the world only makes sense if you force it to."
one of my favorite scenes
+LawofGaming *dying in the gutter :) Sounds cooler.
+Bruce Wayne Changed it, thanks Bruce ;)
+L3ndzo83 zack snyder not create this story he Just direct it
Ryuzaki Raiga Snyder most definitely "created" the story. Terrio wrote the script, but Snyder mostly came up with the basic story.
THIS. IS. IT.
This IS the score from the actual fight!
That ending though!!! Exquisite!
07:15 The moment in the movie when the world just realize batman is a human being with feelings, the moment when the whole world get divided between those who understand that and those who still prefer an empty superhero figure with no other motivation than "I most save the world because of reasons"
Krawser Krip exacly
***** If people laugh at this "martha" scene it means there's still people who didn't think batman is more than a superhero with cape. And unfortunately isn't enough a entire trilogy for those people, and there's a new batman that need to tell his history once again, but people didn't give him the opportunity, they just focused on comparing him with Bale's batman. Besides this is not his solo movie, if people can understand what we see in BvS they will accept him as Batman, but i'm pretty sure that even if this upcoming batman film is the more accurate, people will complain about how much real is knowing that the TDK has a realistic batman who everybody loved (and still) but guess what? nobody complain about that, they like that way. If Ben do something different they complain, if he not they complain anyway finding another thing. As director Ben should know he can't make everybody happy. I was happy with TDK and i'm happy whit this batman, he has something that Bale's didn't, but he isn't so much different from him, If this new batman was exactly the same as the previous one, i wouldn't be happy. If you want to know the answer to your question, just look all those memes and jokes about "martha" and you will know it. or even look all those jokes about DC being "dark" when TDK was already "dark" (even more) and nobody make fun about it.
***** Well he IS batman now, accepting it or not, definitive or not, He is. And if we replace superman and batman with normal people it will be more dramatic, it will be a drama movie. But why i bother myself arguing with these people? they are comic books fans, the aren't the smartest and mature people of the world, i know when in some movie the are represented by fat geeks that still live with their parents at 30 or 40 years old. I'm not going to say more.
I would like to point out, as someone who does laugh at the Martha scene, I am in love with the idea that Zach Snyder had when he came up with it. In theory it would have been the perfect moment, but the way he executed it is what "softcores" the moment for me. I feel like if he could have found a better way to carry out the connection between Clark and Bruce it would have been one less complaint that I had. Even just "Save ... My ... Mother" would have felt better to me.
Riley Walton I totally agree with you, that would've been so much better I never even thought about that
3:06 Love how the music becomes Man of Steely.
Don’t be one-sided. Both 1:40 & 3:06 are great.
I would love to hear a full version of this theme for supes🎶
@@tevindurrant2630 It's mostly a reprise of the melody heard in 'Their War Here'.
@@tevindurrant2630 both 1:40 & 3:06 are fascinating to hear, and who wouldn’t want a full version of each of them?
@@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961 “Their War Here” was in turn a sort of reworking of “Arcade” from Man of Steel, so its presence here is to serve as a Superman motif for the moment when he recovers his strength.
Well... Here I am... Damn Bruce was dark and badass in this movie
+Indy Wanderer Totally! This was definitely the darkest portrayal of Batman to date, at least in live-action. There were parts of the film where I was like, "Good Lawd, Batman!" Ben Affleck did a phenomenal job as the Caped Crusader!!!!
This batman was darker because he didn't give a crap about murdering anyone. He killed basically 20-30 people and almost seemed happy to nearly kill superman.
Yeah, he was kinda like the Punisher. Cruel and brutal lol. But he does soften a bit by the end of the film. Maybe Superman's sacrifice reminded him of what it truly means to be a hero. I think the film, despite its flaws, did a great job of juxtaposing Batman and Superman.
+Dawson Granger yes made sense, it's been 20 years, he lost jason todd, ( ha haha jokes on you, robin suit) he's a damage batman/bruce wayne, i like that... like alfred said the rules change... the think i really like in snyders universe is that is trying to be diferente from what he used to, + i like it the way lex was... many reviewers where saying he was like enigma from batman forever... but he actually remaind me of a really crasy mad villan like the joker lool i like that was diferente...
Absolutly right.
If this is to be Hans Zimmer's last superhero movie soundtrack...this track and the others.
I happily say to that man, thank you.
No he's doing justice league, so we can take a damn big sigh of relief on that fact
+The Auditor
Where did you read that? He just announced the other day that he is done with scoring superhero movies.
ShieldsJustice yeah didn't see that until after, it was on AMC news a while back. But now DC has to go on without him, and that fact really sucks
+The Auditor we still have junkie XL, Hans Zimmer will be missed.
+ShieldsJustice Wasn't that just an April Fool's prank?
1:58 - 2:18 is absolutely magnificent. Can literally feel Batman's rage and anger. He will do anything to save the world. Even if he has to kill a God. I mean you can understand why he hated Superman. All that power and what if he turns against us. Bruce's anger was valid.
"I grew up in Kansas, General. I'm about as American as it gets."
Someone get Hans Zimmer a Lazarus Pit!!
its not Hans, it Junkie XL. Junkie handled the Batman themes while hans reused his Man of Steel themes. you can hear the different styles.
No alex, Hans handled the violin parts i hear it from an interview.
+Psychotic Smile which interview are you talking about? ive already seen the bvs interviews.
This is the Batman versus Superman segment, not a just Batman theme nor just Superman theme. This piece is a collaboration.
junkie xl and Steven price also did excellent soundtrack... did you hear the suicide squad ost?? it's quite phenomenal!!!
I feel so bad some people can't see how great of a movie this is. This is my #1 superhero movie to date
people does see it. Child doesn't
It's too unique and takes itself entirely too seriously for them
Lol did u watch endgame
@@Cedric-00 yup. what about it
Well it was quite good, but it went to shit when lois interupted the fight with martha... i really liked batfleck :))
Superman used Martha.
ITS SUPER EFFECTIVE
Lol
And why do these people think the scene was stupid and dumb?
@@judahthelion01 cuz their not big brain
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!?!
5:34 superman being swung by batman! epic
Danny Guy why
@@albertorodriguez8420 because i beat the shit outta you
Hans Zimmer is a god. His music can make any movie epic but here, in this case, BvS is already epic. Please Zimmer make the soundtrack for Justice League with individual superheroes theme. That would be so EPIC !!!!
it's already confirmed
+Sahyl Yeah, he's doing that. Everyone except Batman because he already did Batman in The Dark Knight Trilogy, so he brought Junkie XL for Batman.
+George Daugherty Actually Hans confirmed in a recent interview, that he originally gave the honor of doing Batman to Junkie, but then they ended up working togethe, because they saw how well they worked together.
+Sahyl As much as I love Hans, this whole soundtrack seems to be the work of Junkie XL. He should be getting the credit.
logicalfallacy234
What are you talking about ? Hans has made most of the tracks. Only Batman themes are made by Junkie. See MoS soundtrack making, he composes all the percussions, horns and everything. I can detect Hans music easily. It has a certain vibe and a feel that no one can replicate.
6:00 my new alarm
nice, my alarm, blood bag.
Go with 1:57, You'll wake up every time ;)
+Zach Collier this is like a running song. I'd run to this. Blood bag will forever be my alarm until I find something with more kick
+Frank A I was trolling anyway. That would be a horrible part to set an alarm too, unless you like being stressed out the moment you come to.
+Zach Collier yeah. It'll be a bad start. That's why blood bag is so perfect. Starts out with low drums then the second set and blam come the mad drums blasting away pumping your blood all through your veins
at 1:00 kryptonite explodes at Clark's beautiful face...
+arujofied "It wasnt easy to make clark, it tooks years and cost a fortune. Luckily i had both"
afterwards you hear a lot of man of steel/superman music, sort of like zod. I get the feeling that he regains his powers and gets very mad
+arujofied Wow this practically confirms it!
That seems definite
Yeah that projectile he catches is 100% gonna explode in his face
Batman: You say that you want to help people, but you can't feel their pain... their mortality... it's time you learn what it means to be a man."
This itself is really stupid when you consider that, yes, Clark did. Very much so in Man of Steel.
+VunderGuy But Bruce and the rest of the world don't know that. To them he's someone with incredible power who has no authority. Of course that's what the Martha scene is for, it showed Bruce Clark's humanity, and how similar to each other they are, and how Bruce has fallen and forgotten the purpose of his mission. Superman proved Batman wrong, and saved him from crossing the line, if he hasn't already.
+RCBM Mines Well said. You could even see the rage and murderous intent in Bruce's face before superman says "Martha". Batman was just fighting just for the sake of fighting and murder at that point. Not for justice as he may have thought before.
Why wasn't this line in the movie?
There is only a "Batfake" (Joker line from Batman Beyond) in this movie. One of the reason this movie sucked so much ass. We see Batfake kill many people with his guns and running over people with the batmobile. The Dark Knight we know and love would never kill anyone (not intentionally anyway.) If batman killed then every big villain in Gotham like the joker would be dead, and clearly since the joker is in the Suicide Squad movie he's not dead. This film just made no sense.
This is why I’m black and blue and soon you’ll see too ✊🏾😎
3:07 will never not be one of the most epic soundtracks I ever heard
1:58
Oh.... Nice. Awesome work from Zimmer and Junkie!
Man im a fan of both marvel and dc. But man i think ill never get sick of rewatching BVS. I Always come on here to listen to the souNdtracks and read the comments. Nice to see people still come here to listen to these masterpieces.
damn....i cried during that Martha scene...the way Superman was afraid for his Mother
I cried when I heard the music
Last bit of this
@Ishaan Hodge why did yoi
@Ishaan Hodge you
WB to Zack:
WB: Zack please, I was wrong, you have to listen to me. Marvel wants to- is interrupted by earpearsing noises
WB: you don't understand, there's no time!
Zack: I UNDERSTAND!!
And thus, WB cut out 30 important minutes of screen time, and forced him to shove in pointless setups.
hahahahah fuck WB
WB v Zack Snyder.
Which is nothing compared to what they did to him with JL
good one man.
“30 minutes.”
That’s adorable.
Breathe it in. That's weed . Men aren't high. You are high XD
That's not kriptonite my bro...lmao!
lol wtf
Made my day aha
xD
that made me laugh like the joker
7:25 ... people can be cynical a-holes about this moment, but when I saw this movie in the theater, alone, for the first time...got very teary eyed at that moment. then immediately bought the soundtrack
Same bro. I never watched the theatrical release I watched the ultimate edition when it released and that’s maybe why I love bvs
@@makdoesshit actually when I watch the theater version at Imax Theater, I personally love the save martha scene already 😀.
I was utterly shocked when I saw the scene in theaters. It never clicked until then that Bruce and Clark shared that commonality. My mother wept when she saw this scene what son wouldn’t do anything to save his mother?
"you don't understand.."
"OH, I UNDERSTAND"
*push*
+David TenderNuts i loved that when batman said "I UNDERSTAND" all pissed and shit with that voice modulator
+lionelep1 that was such a badass way he said that
+nionelep1 DUDE HIS VOICE SO EPIC WHEN DE MODULATOR WAS SORT OF BROKEN! TO ME BVS IS THE BEST MOVIE EVER! LOVE ALL OF IT! SUCH A BOLD MASTERPIECE!!
You know what was more badass?That push. In fact it wasn't even a push. Just a flick of the wrists really.
Tragedysirloin I know, I'm pretty beat up about it myself tbh.
1:40 the best
Bone crushing!
:D
TOTALLY AGREE! I clicked to this song just to listen this part!
totally
Yeah, I just imagine the merciless onslaught of punches, knees and kicks batman unloads on superman
2:24 it was here that punch after punch, Bruce realized the dose had worn off. Superman is no longer amused and even Batman has an oh shit look on his face. Seeing this movie a third time damn it.
And he put out his hand like "woah take it easy man"
+giganfan 997 "chill bro its just a prank" look
OK...as a fellow fan I respect you, but #1, the armor made him nowhere near as strong as Superman. All it did was cushion the blows that normally would've killed Batman. Secondly, the motives were clear; Batman claimed he was being cognizant but in reality he felt powerless and emasculated (which had been illustrated since the earliest trailers) and sought to kill Superman out of a misplaced sense of superiority. He quite literally lived long enough to see himself become the villain. Superman (granted more explored in the extended cut) was angry at Batman's violation of individual rights. Batman had stopped caring about individuals in his war on crime which Superman couldn't stand since he is more altruistic. The story is centered off of Superman brining Batman back to his roots, and I can go even deeper if need be.
@@giganfan997 "sought to kill Superman out of a misplaced sense of superiority. He quite literally lived long enough to see himself become the villain."
I think he wanted to kill Superman because people died. His family, Robin, people who died and he couldn't stop it. Then a building full of employees got killed because of Superman, he couldn't save them. The film even implies they were waiting for him, so their blood on his hands (nightmare scene). Then a bomb attack because he thought he was neglicent. All these events creating panic and a mis placed feeling of faillure. Superman was the vessel to project it on. I think the misplaced sense of superiority came because his projection of grieve and guild on Superman created a demon. Creating all sorts of hate fuelled feelings like feeling emasculated
@@giganfan997 Agreed. The 2:24 part of the scene further proved how resourceful & willful Batman is, which made me believe in him more. I’m with you on that. 👍🏻
At 3:06 shit is going down
OH MY GOD YES. I can imagine some insane combo. Sounds like someone raged out of nowhere
Jot Bean Exactly!
That's one of the themes from Man of Steel, sort of a Superman action theme x)
+0dd Pharo no its not lol
+Felipe Lima This is when Superman starts thrashing Batman. Love it!
Ok how i picture it in my head/speculation:
1:00 Superman catches the bullet that Batman shot (where the clip ends) but it explodes and expose Superman to Kryptonite....him getting weak
1:40 Batman blocks Superman's punch. WTF moment
1:57 Batman beating the crap outta Superman
2:27 Superman regains some focus. Still weakened/de-powered but still able to stand up and fight
3:00 Superman beating Batman
3:47 Batman change of plans...luring Superman into his traps set up all over the battle area
6:07 Batman is all messed up but manages to beat Superman to the ground. Does his Dark Knight Returns style monologue
6:39 Superman somehow regains his strength and overpowers the exhausted Batman with damaged armor
7:00 Batman is all like "just kill me. Do it." Batman gets a bit "i have nothing to live for" kinda thing. Superman gives a monologue about hope and offers him help - work together to fight injustice.
+trylobyte07 SO CLOSE SO CLOSE
But that is not exactly what happens...
+Matias Mundaca HAHA Damn! I'm seeing it on tomorow (Thursday) Mentally memorise the cues of the soundtrack so I can compare when I watch it. :-)
+trylobyte07 did you watch the movie already? because i did and i say your speculation is soooooo close
+TheTerrorOfDeath71 Just got back from the cinema. HAHA Close except for the ending!
+trylobyte07 Closeeee, but the last part is very different, and much sadder
If Hans Zimmer is God then I want to go to his *Heaven*
+BewareTheBatWing If he isn't God, he definitely wrote God's theme. Just watch The Prince of Egypt.
Why couldn't God create more images of himself like Zimmer instead of atrocities like Donald Trump?
+BewareTheBatWing john williams say "excuse me"
+BewareTheBatWing *Hans Zimmer & Junkie XL*
For those wondering, the "trigger" wasn't the name. Even though he reacted at the name, he reacted violently, when he realised it was his mother's name he immediatly humanised him, realised that what he thought "You were never even a man" was a lie, a false construct he had. Having a mother and wanting her safe. As soon as Bruce realised this, he understood that, even though he coulnd't help his own mother, he could've spared the despair and sadness from Clark's heart by saving his mother. And the fact that the two mothers had the same name only helps to create the bond between the two, not only destroys the division between them, but shows that after all, they're just two sides of the same coin. For the whole time before the movie we were all "Team Batman" or "Team Superman" but the movie showed us, thanks to that scene that we're all together, joined by our emotions no matter how different we are.
2:22 I LOVE THIS MOMENT!!!
WHAT?! WHY?! WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!!! WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!!!! WHY?!!
My jaw dropped during that scene! I was already excited to see the battle unfold, then i was like ok Bruce you're going a bit too far with the sink, hes had enough!
+spiderboymatt ben affleck's acting in that scene is honestly oscar worthy
+Hari Jeevakumar omg RIGHT?!
Zaiyan Khan he was amazing
Unfortunately, many people's didn't understand how much of a great scene that was and how much of a great movie bvs was
+Hari Jeevakumar ben affleck all the way through was Oscar worthy
I like how it switches between their leitmotifs when it looks like they have the upper hand in the fight
Most badass Batman in cinema history
Goosebumps when Batman starts to take the advantage
Jodi Dowling why
This movie easily in the top best superheroe movie
The fight between batman and superman was nothing short of a work of art
I feel so much better when I come here and see that I'm not alone who interests in soundtracks :')
His has got to be one of the best superhero soundtracks of all time.
1:57-2:20 being my favourite part as it's so badass and fitting for this battle
1:00 Guess who got a grenade full of Kryptonite to their face?
Batman: Breathe it in... That's fear... your not brave...
+Digital Torch Men are brave !
+Antonin Roux "It's time you learn what it means to be a man"
“I bet your parents taught you, that you mean something. That you’re here for a reason. My parents taught me a different lesson, dying in the gutter... _for no reason at all.”_
@@cloudlesskey1294 Men are brave
6:40 You were never a god...you were never even a man!
+Sach Harshan that's the part where I wanted to tell Batman, "fuck you, you were hiding when Zod was around and you hid from Superman until you got kryptonite on your hands" .
+Manuel Lopez Well he was not that stupid to fight with suprman without kryptonite.
+Manuel Lopez omg for god sake he was out of town that's why in bvs you see him arriving in the damn helicopter so he wasn't hiding and plus he was helping his employees find safety
3:22-3:24 That almost sounds like Godzilla for some reason.
+Manuel Lopez he was still in Gotham when this all happened....
@7:20: "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?" Epic
+Nala I could really feel Bruce in that scene. I felt like cuddling up and crying.
"Go and save her...save martha ......"
"WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME ! ! !"
*PUNCH SUPERMAN*
lois "Stop ! Martha is his mother !"
+Zoe Wong Stop! Martha is his mothers name.
Nitro_ChargerGT ya...like that , i git little bit fotgot
*bit
Great movie, instant classic. The Blade Runner of our generation. Misunderstood at first, but time will grant its rightful title as a masterpiece.
The Stark Knight Returns hear hear! ✊🏼
Uh huh, sure it will bud, keep believing that. Maybe one day your delusion will become true 😂
This movie will never be great. But this movie DOES have the greatest fight scenes I have to admit... even better than the Bale series!
At one point I thought Batman was going to snap Supermans neck.
I was like like "OH SHIT, NOOOO!!!!"
Tell that to Zod's sna-never mind.
Oh the part after he smashed that sink on his head? ;D
BHarribo+ That's right. Superman would've been dead from a snapped neck before he'd have a chance to run if batman wanted to directly kill him up front and end it once it started.
Just like Superman could've burned a hole through Bruce's head with heat vision, if he wanted, or did any other number of things
91MoonKnight that pic fits so well with your comment
I'm definitely going to write to the final minute of this! And for the record, the Martha scene was unbelievably unbelievable beautiful and epic!
i'm reliving the movie through this track..... i can see each scene
7:25 save....martha
No martha is dying tonight
Holy shit, this movie is fucking amazing
Who else wants this to happen in the extended R Rated edition...
*Batman fires kryptonite grenade. Superman catches it and gets poisoned*
"Breathe Clark....You're feeling it now don't you, what the rest of us feel everyday.....you're own mortality. You're not brave..."
*Superman throws Punch. Batman stops punch*
"Men are brave"
EPIC....FIGHT....SCENE!!!!!
+The Flash still worth it even the dark knight returns fight w as short too
+Jacob R Why the fuck didn't they get yo ass to co write the fucking movie? I swear this just made that part of the movie 100% better.
+Jacob R I smell Dark Knight Returns in those lines lol.
Ps. I wonder where he will say "It's time you learn what it takes to be a man."
+Galen Marek you know it mate. DKR nailed it with the dialogue. "I want you to remember the one man that beat you"
When Batman fires the kryptonite gas and says, "Breathe it in. That's fear", it's supposed to be a symbolism of him becoming like his villains (Scarecrow). He also gets his mask torn in half to resemble Two-Face. So while your dialogue influenced by TDKR, is epic, it wouldn't quite fit the themes BVS deals with.
7:25 the music is so amazing when the scene shows Martha's death as Bruce pauses when he hears Superman say "Martha"
What an amazing fight sequence. The musical number more than stood up to the battle between Batman and Superman.
6:36
Bruce:(holding the spear) You were never a god.
Bruce:(puts his foot on Superman's throat) You were never even a man.
Clark: YOU'RE LETTING HIM..KILL MARTHA.
Bruce: What does that mean?! Why did you say that name?!
Clark: FIND...HIM...SAVE....MARTHA.
Bruce:(after remembering his parents' death) WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME? Martha? Why did you say that name?
Lois: CLARK! Please, stop.
Bruce: WHY DID SAY THAT NAME?
Lois: It's his mother's name.... It's his mother's name.
that was such a good scene
probably one of my favorites
Oh I love the part when Lex shows the pictures of Martha and then Superman gets angry and is about to laser the shit outta Lex. AHHH So awesome!!
+Khairat Kheader Superman saved by his mother...Interesting..
That scene was so incredibly dumb.
So beautiful at the end.
Save....Martha
3:00 superman soundtrack makes it soooo lit
This movie rules.
1:36 man are brave.
1:54 batman's jumping kick superman.
2:28 superman counter attack.
3:00 Superman's breath and counter.
3:07 Superman's super punch.
3:40 batman gun Attack .
1:15
“Breathe it in. That’s fear. You’re not brave…
Men are brave.”
My slogan for Batman v Superman:
A film too big for little minds
Wise words from Martha Kent - "People hate what they don't understand".
We understood it perfectly, we just a didn't think it was good
I so agree with this
+Greg, TheGuyWhoLikesMovies maybe you did . maybe you didn't .
+Hamani Omarah it's not like it's a difficult movie
+Greg, TheGuyWhoLikesMovies it's not but some people make it seem like it is .
That ending gets me every time... damn it, Bruce.
7:10 "Find...him...save...Martha" *after traumatizing flashback* WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!
"WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME???!!!"
That name!
Martha!
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!?!?!
@@ColorlessRonin It’s his mother’s name! It’s his mother’s name.
One of the most beautiful opening scenes I have ever watched along with the amazing soundtrack.. Its fucking beautiful man.
If this was Star Wars here's dialogue for it:
Vader: Well, here I am.
Obi Wan: Anakin, please, I was wrong. You have to listen to me, Palpatine wants the Jedi-
Vader force chokes Obi Wan for a few seconds & lets him go. Obi Wan & Vader walk near each other.
Obi Wan: You don't understand! There's no time!
Vader: I UNDERSTAND!
Obi Wan force pushes him a few distances away
And you know the rest
7:20 You are now entering a Feel Fields. Beware Feel explosion charges are laid out on this field.
i never planned on listening to the critics. for someone who has an understanding of the basic lore in the dc universe. this movie would have been was absolutely awesome. i understand the wider audience and why they felt lost. ultimately though the critics imo were wrong. dont go in expecting ab avengers flick. that movie was successful because it was simple. heroes unite and beat up bad guys. no substance or depth to the characters. bvs had so much depth and so much going on , that you had to think..the audience had to think. thats what sets this apart from the avengers film. it wasnt simple., it wasnt a beat em up kid flick. this movie was fucking adult and the story is fucking brilliant. why? because they didnt just hand it to you..it came in plots that you put together and once you do..thats when you shit yourself
... No. The Avengers did good because they actually took their time on their cinematic universe. 4/6 of the main characters were more or less already developed by the time the movie came out thus making it a fun and interesting crossover without the need to further develop. This movie didn't have that kind of set-up and literally forced forced Batman's and Wonder Woman's origin into the story thus distracting it from any structured plot that could be followed without having to rely on prior knowledge of the comics. This is also a beat 'em up kids flick with a shoe-horned villain. They should've went with Braniac as the main villain for this one.
@@Rubyfire41 the great thing about movies especially comic book movies the director gets to add their own interpretation of the Characters to really make them unique and not literally the same as we know them from the comic books. Theres no point in making movies that’s literally the exact same as the comic book and everything happens exactly as it does there. If directors did that then critics would say oh the movie is exactly as the comic book nothing unique we already knew the plot and how everything would end.
@@keptnc I think you're responding to the wrong comment. I didn't see anything that suggested that I believed they should've just copied the plot of the comics.
@@Rubyfire41 no I responded to the right i just gave my whole outlook on the cbm but the first comment was more directed to what you said about the avengers
@@Rubyfire41 People like you are why the DCCU failed.
4:55 Batman's rage/fear/distrust of Superman manifested...... 5:06 Batman believing he's doing the right thing with the background sound of this rage/fear/distrust.
3:06 You better hide when you're hearing this. Superman goes apeshit.
Both 1:40 & 3:06. Don’t pick a side.
Song: *plays*
Me: why do I hear boss music?
Tuber 13 I assume you’re referring to 1:40
@@joshuagavile4775 Why are you on so many comments saying the same thing? Are people not allowed to have preferences in your world?
2:30 superman's rise! I loved it! Even though i support batman through and through!
you are in the right path DC. just chill on the editing table a bit. so many scenes cut.
2:27 is underrated, I get a rush of energy from this section.
I love this, when they start fighting you can hear the start of supermans theme but it so quickly changes to batmans as he beats the shit out of supe.
One word: Epic.
4:59 i still get chills seeing him come down with the grapple gun
@7:00 onwards, possibly the greatest snippet of contemporary classical that exists, immortal and divine!
Amazing
2:50 Superman gets advantage in the fight
the moment Bruce realized that the kryptonite wore off XD
santiags101 that one HAHAHAHAHAH
+Giovanni Alckmim Russo the moment Bruce realized that the kryptonite wore off he got fucked up
Dark Knight 1403 Yes, I laughed my ass off during that scene. His face was priceless. And people say this movie doesn't have fun
i know
5:50 : they told me the world only make sense if force it too
3:06 when your fighting your school bully surrounded by a huge circle of students
*“You’re not brave. Men are brave.”*
Superman is and will always be the greatest super hero EVER , no one else compares to him !!!
1:58 is my new ring tone.
*1:57
Mine too (can't believe I'm replying to a seven year old comment😂
I just watched the film and ran to the home because 3:06 !!!
You're not brave... Men are brave.
Awesome
The end of this fight has so much feelings :c saw the movie yesterday and it bring me so much fucking feelings when this battle ends
3:07 🔥🔥 chills
"You're not brave... men are brave." Batman was a fucking beast in this.
Tyree Webster yeah where was he when Zod and crew were gonna terraform earth? He was fkn hiding.