It's not the lighter wheelset that makes you use a smaller cog in the climbs but the 27.5 rear that changes the gear ratio, difference is similar to subtracting 2 teeth from the chainring. Lighter and smaller wheels do however help accelerate faster.
Doing the mullet setup today on my new 22 Evo Pro. Yesterday was the first ride with an Oval sprocket which I run on all of my bikes. What a difference! You should try one
Ya know, I’ve been pretty curious about trying one of those oval chainrings for a while. My buddies really like them. I Might have to get on that soon.
Hey mate, interesting and entertaining video. Thanks! The Stumpy Evo was also offered in a Ltd. version which was a stock mullet. I (181cm) am riding one of those for a few months now. It's a very playful bike and the slightly heavier Roval stock tyre has great grip. I think that a disbalanced wheel weight is a disadvantage in ... riding balance? The stock Evo mullet is playful, stabile, versatile and in S4 still similar to a greyhound bus ride. It's a killer version of the pinkbike bike of the year. In my eyes even a better enduro than the Enduro with the Zeb fork. Bike park, trails, tours, jumpline... I love it. PS: Subscribed!!
Hilarious! I've been watching a ton of reviews recently as we're looking for a new bike and your review was hands down the best. Any chance you have a few comments on how the Specialized Stuntjumper Evo mullet compares to the 2022 Bronson? Well done.
Hey thanks for the kind words! I’m sorry tho, I can’t really comment on the Bronson because I haven’t ridden it. Beautiful bike. Just a quick glance at the geo chart and it looks like the Bronson’s numbers are in the ballpark of everything I look for in a bike that’s straddling the line between trail and enduro. You can’t really go wrong with either bike. The difference will be in the ride feel which you won’t know until you ride both bikes. From a spec/value standpoint I’d just say that specialized is pretty hard to beat.
Oh man I used to race in Michelin’s in 1998, They were the first ones to bring racing flats to MTB. They were green and damn fast too. Bagged 9 podium 1’s on Michelin’s. Pretty certain you will know the difference.
I'm running Michelin's Wild Enduro in 2.4" width on my 2017 27.5 SJ. They are insanely good!!!! I'm totally sold on these F&R-specific tires. They have great grip in all but the wettest, muddiest conditions, at which point I'd rather not ride and just go to pub for a beer.
Hey bro, I really enjoyed your video. I'm also thinking of going mullet on my Stumpy Evo. What's holding me back is the reviews on the specialized website on the mullet suspension link. Some people are saying that it ruins the kinematics. The rear becomes too soft and bottoms out more frequently. Have you experienced that?
I haven’t experienced that. I set my suspension tune through the calculator on the specialized website and it was an excellent starting point. I’ve made minor tweaks from there and I have no complaints about the rear suspension.
Look up the wrp mullet link. Little bit more expensive but its a yoke so you keep the stock 29er link. You can even run a cascade link with it if you want. Solves that problem alot of people complain about. Also ive heard you wanna run about 25% sag instead of 30 and that helps
Thought that rear tread looked a bit timid for that bike, but you ride hard pack. You confirmed my prediction a few minutes later in the vid. I always run Maxxis Minion DHF/DHR EXO combo after messing around with Spec's tires for years on my Enduro and Stumpjumper. As soon as I went tubeless, Spec tires would always have slow air leaks. Almost never have to touch the Maxxis tires and they wear better and the casing is really tough. They are heavy, though. Look forward to the long term review of the Michelin combo. Ran Mich Wildgripper for a couple of years back in the 90's.
Yeah that rear was a bad call on my part. My terrain definitely has hard pack runs but the trails I ride that matter the most to me are quite soft. It’s tough to gauge the tires by the pictures online… live and learn. Hope you’re doing well Pete!
@@ShreddingSpree Doing great Spree. I am on my bike 100 miles per week. I work 4 10's so I have 3 days per week to ride. Hope you have time to post more content often. Thst mullet is sick!
No one talks about it 🤷🏼♂️ I suspect 29er is the main reason sram etc started pushing 12s. My other fun ‘no one thinks about it fact’ most suspension design is developed for a specific tooth chain ring yet brands never state that “this frame is designed for” and so people don’t realise their are consequences to changing up or down… anyway, nice solid review, I’m sure you’ll get some free wheels if you keep the quality up!
Looks sick! I got the 2022 evo expert and the hub is way too quiet for me... for trail riding I like people being able to hear me coming on descents. I think the only real upgrade this bike needs is a new wheelset. Seems like there are tons of customizations with the cascade link available + mullet link. Also the high/low flip chip is amazing! So easy to change it even trailside. Do you have any other upgrades you've done that you recommend?
@@ShreddingSpree cool thanks. Those wheels look awesome! How does the hub sound or is it a silent one? I’m loving the bike so far, took it to mountain creek yesterday and the suspension feels great
@@Tom-fn8xc they are the I9 Hydra hubs so the freehub makes that “buzzing 🐝 “ sound. It sounds cool but it’s not outrageously loud. Keep shredding that bike man. There’s nothing quite like that New Bike Stoke!
I have a 27.5 Stumpjumper, changing the front suspension and wheel for a 29, would it become a Mullet (even with a higher cost than just changing a link and a rear wheel)?
Have you tried the wrp link as well? I know someone else said it here too, ive heard alot about this link changing the progression and bottom out of the suspension
Sorry for my delayed response. I haven’t tried that link. I don’t have any bottom out issues with this setup after a few minor tweaks to specialized’s suspension calculator recommendations.
Ciao, sono Roberto, sto pensando di portare la mia evo in versione mallet, vorrei però fare una prova prima senza comprare il link posteriore. Se poi mi trovo bene faccio il passaggio successivo e lo compro. Che problemi potrei avere a montare la 27,5 senza il link?
ciao Roberto, penso che una ruota posteriore da 27.5 andrà bene senza il collegamento speciale ma abbasserà la parte posteriore della bici. l'altezza del movimento centrale, l'angolo effettivo del tubo sterzo, l'angolo del tubo sella e la cinematica delle sospensioni saranno tutti interessati. questo significa che la bici si gestirà in modo diverso da come previsto. Immagino che non salirà altrettanto bene, ma potrebbe essere buono su discese più ripide con un angolo del tubo sterzo più lento. Penso che anche la moto vorrà fare curve un po' più larghe. potrebbe essere una scadenza interessante provarlo senza il collegamento, ma non credo che ti dia una buona idea di quanto sia specializzato questo cefalo.
Hmm this is so interesting. My buddy and I each ran a back to back lap with the mullet and 29 wheel. Both of us felt the bike became unmanageable with the mixed wheel size. It was super squirreley and lost all traction. Did you have to do much to your suspension to dial it in? I would assume it was just me, but with my friend having the same result I’m wondering what we did wrong haha
I left my sus settings the same. In the video I note that the rear felt more loose with the mullet setup but I’m pretty sure it was the tire. I’ve got only a handful of rides on my new rubber and I’m feeling like it’s staying hooked up better now. Jury is still out though. What were your geo settings when you rode it?
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Mullet for life and well done to making such a great video.
It's not the lighter wheelset that makes you use a smaller cog in the climbs but the 27.5 rear that changes the gear ratio, difference is similar to subtracting 2 teeth from the chainring. Lighter and smaller wheels do however help accelerate faster.
Totally right. Another commenter brought this up and I felt like a dumb dumb for not considering it myself first.
Doing the mullet setup today on my new 22 Evo Pro. Yesterday was the first ride with an Oval sprocket which I run on all of my bikes. What a difference! You should try one
Ya know, I’ve been pretty curious about trying one of those oval chainrings for a while. My buddies really like them. I Might have to get on that soon.
Hey mate, interesting and entertaining video. Thanks! The Stumpy Evo was also offered in a Ltd. version which was a stock mullet. I (181cm) am riding one of those for a few months now. It's a very playful bike and the slightly heavier Roval stock tyre has great grip. I think that a disbalanced wheel weight is a disadvantage in ... riding balance? The stock Evo mullet is playful, stabile, versatile and in S4 still similar to a greyhound bus ride. It's a killer version of the pinkbike bike of the year. In my eyes even a better enduro than the Enduro with the Zeb fork. Bike park, trails, tours, jumpline... I love it.
PS: Subscribed!!
Hey Phillip, glad you’re loving your bike! I’ve seen the Ltd spec before and it looks like a killer ride. Forgot to mention it in the video.
This was one of the 1st things I did on the bike , I do like it. It feels like im more control but than again I have about a year since I got into mtb
definitely going to be trying the mullet setup on my evo after watching this video. You've gained my sub keep up the good work
Hey thanks for sticking around!
@@ShreddingSpree my pleasure 👌
Hilarious! I've been watching a ton of reviews recently as we're looking for a new bike and your review was hands down the best. Any chance you have a few comments on how the Specialized Stuntjumper Evo mullet compares to the 2022 Bronson? Well done.
Hey thanks for the kind words! I’m sorry tho, I can’t really comment on the Bronson because I haven’t ridden it. Beautiful bike. Just a quick glance at the geo chart and it looks like the Bronson’s numbers are in the ballpark of everything I look for in a bike that’s straddling the line between trail and enduro. You can’t really go wrong with either bike. The difference will be in the ride feel which you won’t know until you ride both bikes. From a spec/value standpoint I’d just say that specialized is pretty hard to beat.
Great video. Just discovered your channel and the content has been excellent. Keep up the good work!
Hey thanks for the good vibes!
Oh man I used to race in Michelin’s in 1998,
They were the first ones to bring racing flats to MTB.
They were green and damn fast too.
Bagged 9 podium 1’s on Michelin’s.
Pretty certain you will know the difference.
I'm running Michelin's Wild Enduro in 2.4" width on my 2017 27.5 SJ. They are insanely good!!!! I'm totally sold on these F&R-specific tires. They have great grip in all but the wettest, muddiest conditions, at which point I'd rather not ride and just go to pub for a beer.
I don’t disagree with a single thing you’ve said here. 😂
Hey bro, I really enjoyed your video. I'm also thinking of going mullet on my Stumpy Evo. What's holding me back is the reviews on the specialized website on the mullet suspension link. Some people are saying that it ruins the kinematics. The rear becomes too soft and bottoms out more frequently. Have you experienced that?
I haven’t experienced that. I set my suspension tune through the calculator on the specialized website and it was an excellent starting point. I’ve made minor tweaks from there and I have no complaints about the rear suspension.
Look up the wrp mullet link. Little bit more expensive but its a yoke so you keep the stock 29er link. You can even run a cascade link with it if you want. Solves that problem alot of people complain about. Also ive heard you wanna run about 25% sag instead of 30 and that helps
Thought that rear tread looked a bit timid for that bike, but you ride hard pack. You confirmed my prediction a few minutes later in the vid. I always run Maxxis Minion DHF/DHR EXO combo after messing around with Spec's tires for years on my Enduro and Stumpjumper. As soon as I went tubeless, Spec tires would always have slow air leaks. Almost never have to touch the Maxxis tires and they wear better and the casing is really tough. They are heavy, though. Look forward to the long term review of the Michelin combo. Ran Mich Wildgripper for a couple of years back in the 90's.
Yeah that rear was a bad call on my part. My terrain definitely has hard pack runs but the trails I ride that matter the most to me are quite soft. It’s tough to gauge the tires by the pictures online… live and learn. Hope you’re doing well Pete!
@@ShreddingSpree Doing great Spree. I am on my bike 100 miles per week. I work 4 10's so I have 3 days per week to ride. Hope you have time to post more content often. Thst mullet is sick!
Is the trail at 8:43 in Socal or further North? Reminds me of norcal riding
It’s southern CA. I agree though, very unique trail for the area
👍🏻👍🏻Just converted my EVO to a mullet, trail ride today bike park this weekend. 🤞🏻🤞🏻
Siiiiiick. Shred-city
Just an fyi on your: uphill in a lower cog, in addition to your points you will have a slightly altered gear ratio due to rear wheel diameter change.
Great point! Holy cow how didn’t I think of that??
No one talks about it 🤷🏼♂️
I suspect 29er is the main reason sram etc started pushing 12s.
My other fun ‘no one thinks about it fact’ most suspension design is developed for a specific tooth chain ring yet brands never state that “this frame is designed for” and so people don’t realise their are consequences to changing up or down… anyway, nice solid review, I’m sure you’ll get some free wheels if you keep the quality up!
There - not - their (thanks auto)
Great video
YES .. Mullet!
Looks sick! I got the 2022 evo expert and the hub is way too quiet for me... for trail riding I like people being able to hear me coming on descents. I think the only real upgrade this bike needs is a new wheelset. Seems like there are tons of customizations with the cascade link available + mullet link. Also the high/low flip chip is amazing! So easy to change it even trailside. Do you have any other upgrades you've done that you recommend?
Rad! Aside from the things I mention in this video I haven’t done much else to the bike for upgrades other than suspension tuning.
@@ShreddingSpree cool thanks. Those wheels look awesome! How does the hub sound or is it a silent one? I’m loving the bike so far, took it to mountain creek yesterday and the suspension feels great
@@Tom-fn8xc they are the I9 Hydra hubs so the freehub makes that “buzzing 🐝 “ sound. It sounds cool but it’s not outrageously loud. Keep shredding that bike man. There’s nothing quite like that New Bike Stoke!
@@ShreddingSpree Nice! Those hubs are awesome.
If you want a loud hub remove all the grease.
I have a 27.5 Stumpjumper, changing the front suspension and wheel for a 29, would it become a Mullet (even with a higher cost than just changing a link and a rear wheel)?
Yes that would also make the bike a mullet.
Awesome footage you made this analysis fun to watch !!
Thank you!
Have you tried the wrp link as well? I know someone else said it here too, ive heard alot about this link changing the progression and bottom out of the suspension
Sorry for my delayed response. I haven’t tried that link. I don’t have any bottom out issues with this setup after a few minor tweaks to specialized’s suspension calculator recommendations.
Mind sharing what you changed?
Ciao, sono Roberto, sto pensando di portare la mia evo in versione mallet, vorrei però fare una prova prima senza comprare il link posteriore.
Se poi mi trovo bene faccio il passaggio successivo e lo compro.
Che problemi potrei avere a montare la 27,5 senza il link?
ciao Roberto, penso che una ruota posteriore da 27.5 andrà bene senza il collegamento speciale ma abbasserà la parte posteriore della bici. l'altezza del movimento centrale, l'angolo effettivo del tubo sterzo, l'angolo del tubo sella e la cinematica delle sospensioni saranno tutti interessati. questo significa che la bici si gestirà in modo diverso da come previsto. Immagino che non salirà altrettanto bene, ma potrebbe essere buono su discese più ripide con un angolo del tubo sterzo più lento. Penso che anche la moto vorrà fare curve un po' più larghe.
potrebbe essere una scadenza interessante provarlo senza il collegamento, ma non credo che ti dia una buona idea di quanto sia specializzato questo cefalo.
Did you consider the Hightower v the Evo
?
I didn’t. I like Santa Cruz but Hightower wasn’t on my radar
@@ShreddingSpree it’s either this or SCHT V3 for me just doing Research thx
Size S4? Thank you
Mine is S3
want
YOu make me laugh bro! new sub
Hey Robert, thanks for sticking around!
Hmm this is so interesting. My buddy and I each ran a back to back lap with the mullet and 29 wheel. Both of us felt the bike became unmanageable with the mixed wheel size. It was super squirreley and lost all traction. Did you have to do much to your suspension to dial it in? I would assume it was just me, but with my friend having the same result I’m wondering what we did wrong haha
I left my sus settings the same. In the video I note that the rear felt more loose with the mullet setup but I’m pretty sure it was the tire. I’ve got only a handful of rides on my new rubber and I’m feeling like it’s staying hooked up better now. Jury is still out though.
What were your geo settings when you rode it?
did you use mullet link or just downsize the wheel ?