I do appreciate organizations that collect food that would be otherwise wasted and give it to people in need. I’ve personally benefited from such programs when I fell on hard times and they kept me from going hungry.
My local Sainsburys (around 2016), used to throw away mountains of bread by the end of the day. A fancy loaf costing about £3.50, suddenly became worthless. It was quite brazen and the poor lads ordered to do so were given a lot of stick. The UK is a bizarre place sometimes.
I think food waste organisations are great especially local ones. Local is the place to start. Finding things to share and to stop waste within your local community is more effective than trying to make a global impact I feel. I know I've mentioned Olio before but they are great, and helpful for people who need extra food in the community. It's also a nice feeling being part of something and helping out even in a small way.
I tried this beer myself. As it happens, also from TK-MAXX. As a lover of craft beers/ales, I really did enjoy this one. I actually went into the shop to get some new Jeans on the way home from work (TK MAXX is right next to where i work) , and I saw this beer on one of the shelves. Decided it was quite interesting to investigate it. I actually bought 6 cans of the stuff. Realised the money spent was totally worth it (more than my new Jeans). Hoping to see this beer again soon one day.
In regards to the surplus food organisations. For over a year I've been volunteering at one of the larger ones that operates in the North East and serves over 120 communities. It's called The Bread and Butter Thing and for £8.50 you get over £40 worth of surplus food. It comes in 3 bags. A fruit+veg bag, a cupboard bag and a fridge+freezer bag. It would be interesting to see you explore these more. Maybe see if you can order some food from one of these charities and see what meals and how many meals you could make from what you get, and what the cost of those meals is at the price you got them from the charity compared to what the cost would be if you bought the same ingredients from the supermarket, and also what the cost would be if you bought budget ingredients from the supermarket as often what you get in these surplus bags are not budget options, they are the expensive options like salmon fillets, ribeye steaks etc. I would say that you can also visit one of these charities and talk to them about their operation, either at a warehouse or one of the hubs where the food is distributed, but I'm not sure that is a good fit for this channel. I also think going into a hub and filming the process of queueing, paying and picking up your bags might be interesting, but I'd advise against it as some people who visit these hubs are vulnerable people or would not like it to be advertised that they visit these hubs despite there being no reason to be ashamed of doing so.
I’d like to support the idea of a cooking/budget video based on one of these deliveries. It might encourage more people to look at these opportunities. And to either shop with them or support the organizations behind them.
Thing is, while food waste is a big problem, it’s not the main cause of hunger in the world. Main cause of hunger is literally people not having access to the food by various means. Domestic food waste is also minimal and should never be considered into the statistics - most food waste is artificially caused by stores and restaurants throwing away good food and also a lot of farmed vegetables are discarded to meet quotas. Which is why as just a person in your home you shouldn’t feel too bad about wasting food - though do try to not do so if possible obviously. And of course I’m not saying such charities are bad, far from it! We do need more of those. Just the idea of food scarcity and waste is more complex than that usually.
I work in a grocery store and we throw out so much food, it's insane. We do donate some stuff to a food bank but there is still an insane amount of waste, some stuff we aren't allowed to donate or sell
Exactly. It's not profitable (or not profitable *enough*) to just give the food away to hungry people or sell it at prices people living in poverty can afford. So, it's thrown away. Now, that discarded food will cost production so quite why they don't either scale back production or sell at a reduced price to recoup some costs, I don't know. It's not rational in the slightest, but it happens on a enormous scale.
@@RaunienTheFirst it's hard to predict yelds and their profitability because it involves divination for what the prices will be a year later when it's time to harvest AND divination again for the amount of product you will get during the harvest. It can be predicted and approximated to an extent but it's generally safer to overproduce a bit and trash some product than underproduce and have no choice but try to sell at higher price risking to not sell or eat losses by selling below cost. This is not exclusive to foodstuffs, all mass production has the same issues but when you are working with items that don't expire (or expire after many years) it's easier. Then again there are warehouses full of "old new stock" aka unsold inventory that get sold on clearances or just thrown away as ewaste
I don't think I have ever encountered anyone arguing that food waste is the *cause* of hunger, just that it is an under-exploited potential *solution* to hunger.
The question of whether carving pumpkins is a waste of food made me think about what is a waste of food in the first place. How do you even define it? I can throw away the carrot peel and greens, or I can collect them, like you, and make soup from them. If you only look at the garbage cans at supermarkets and restaurants, then the question is: is it decorative salad, is it spoiled, are there sections that can no longer be used, is it due to transport damage, etc.? Depending on how I define it, I come up with completely different answers.
I think maybe the most important part is to be pondering the question as you have done here. Thinking about it is the first step, and without the first step, nothing happens.
For pumpkins, my kids only carved pumpkins a few hours before there went trick or treating. Then when they got home we soaked the seeds in salt water over night and put all the pumpkin and bits and pieces caved out into the oven . They were baked ,puréed, measured out put into bags and frozen for future pies, bread, bars and muffins.
Don't think about it too much, just believe and repeat every stat that makes it sound bad and knee jerk react "That's a disgrace!". Then sprinkle in something about food being a 'human right' without ever acknowledging that one person's right to something necessarily means another person's duty to provide it for them, and never address why the 2nd person should provide for the 1st, and not the other way around. We're just here to virtue signal and sell novelty beer, not to actually solve anything.
And it's hard to even define food that is purchased as a waste in the first place. There is no scarcity so it's not like there isn't enough food being made. I think it's more of trying to make the distribution of said food more efficient.
Environmental researcher here. Most food waste happens at the manufacturing and distribution/sale level, not so much at the consumer level. At the consumer level, Expiration dates were a big problem for a while, which is why there has been a push to use Best Before instead so people don't throw out perfectly good food. I think those food distribution organisations can be good depending on the context and how they are run. From my experience, its important to evaluate the organisations individually than make blanket statements about them being good or bad. There are examples of both out there.
I make a point of picking up a bag or two of Chinese Lay’s chips on trips to my local Asian supermarket. They have flavors like Cucumber, Grilled Squid, Roasted Garlic Oyster, Fried Crab, and Kobe Steak.
The UK throws away around 9.5 million tonnes of food waste in a single year - even though 8.4 million people in the UK are in food poverty. It's a disgrace. I think any organisation trying to address that problem is worthy of support.
Sadly, there is still a highly negative attitude to giving food away to those in need. My partner worked in a school kitchen. She asked if she could bag up some leftover food to give away and the subcontracting company that ran the kitchens said you cannot do that as it is considered theft and as such would be gross misconduct... The food went into the bin at the end of every single day. I shan't name the British company that runs it, but they are a very prominent subcontractor used by government for many of our services.... *edited for accuracy.
@@xionkuriyama5697I agree with you, it’s incredibly cruel. And I know a lot of people make the argument that the practice of distributing food instead of throwing it away needs to be forbidden because people could get sick from the food & blame the company that threw it out/gave it to them. But we have Good Samaritan laws that protect people attempting to do the right thing in other circumstances, we could just as easily create laws like that in this instance. As long as you’re not giving out food you have a reasonable suspicion/you know could make someone sick, I think you should be protected by law to give it out. We throw out so much good food while so many in our communities starve. It’s heinous.
A company I worked for offered food to take home at the end of the day to ‘help end food poverty’. The company I worked for only employed highly skilled, well paid individuals. The people I spoke to who were taking food home so they ‘weren’t in food poverty’ said things like it’s less money I need to spend out of my salary and it means I don’t have to worry about paying for my expensive mortgage and multiple high-end cars. That initiative did not last long. I do wonder if people like those mentioned are counted in these stats….
I live in China and here these chips cost like 10 yuan, which is around 1.14 GBP. Also, this flavor is seasonal and it came out alongside other flavors, which are better, in my opinion. I’d recommend truffle flavor
Beautiful day here in the UK today really lifted my spirits, I was able to go out the garden and get some much needed tidying done and then to come in to a Shrimp vid to watch is bliss, Thanks Mike you're a tonic. Do I wish every video you do was an hour and a half long ? yes lol but i'm happy for it all !
I work for one of the country's largest commercial food distribution companies and we work with several local charities in West Yorkshire to donate surplus foods. It's mainly fresh and ambient food nearing it's use by dates to one charity and frozen products where the outer packaging has been damaged but the internal packaging is intact to another, as well as one off donations for specific charity events etc.. An example would be frozen chips sold in cases of four bags, one bag has split but the others are intact so they would go to charity as commercial customers want the case of four bags they ordered.
In Australia, chips and crisps are both just called chips. You can tell what is meant by context, I guess. If someone said let's get fish n chips, and you ended up with salmon and a packet of cheese and onions chips, you'd be like 'What?..'.
Really interesting to watch. I might never see either of these things for purchase, but it's fun to hear what they're like. The beer tasting chart was a nice addition.
If I remember correctly, the British food authority has in the past classified all those Pringles like "chips" as biscuits. Chips by definition have to be chipped out of something. Pringles and such are baked from some kind of dough. So it makes sense to call them salty biscuits.
@driverjayne even here in the US they aren't allowed to call them potato chips. While potato based, they haven't been allowed to do so for many decades.
Just remember that "biscuit" is also regional dialect. Y'all Brits call cookies & crackers that, but in the USA, they are a small, leavened quickbread, somewhat like the British "scone" (but usually w/o the dried fruit or other sweet stuff--we eat them with meat gravy, or like an English muffin as the cladding on a breakfast sandwich).
Flavour profile diagram was brilliant ! Much easier to read than the flavour pyramid they teach when you study perfume or organic chemistry, with the head notes on top, heart notes middle and bottom notes bottom. I always found that the pyramid made sense intellectually but did not accurately reflect the experience. Your diagram does. I would like to borrow it, please.
Think of food production (or almost any production) like an army medic going into battle. He doesn't know how many painkillers or bandages he needs, because we can't see the future. To make sure he has enough he'll bring more than he needs because it's better to have to much than too little. If you have too little food then that's obviously a massive problem. People not being able to afford enough food is a problem, but no reason to shame the fact we have an abundance of food for everyone else.
This exactly. People don't really understand the concept of surplus. I agree that we could do better in distributing food to reduce 'waste' which is in companies best interests to achieve to maximize profits anyway. And yes poverty preventing people from buying food is a problem, but a surplus is a very good problem to have indeed.
On the food waste topic where i live there's just a few grocery stores that participate in the Flash Food app, but I'm lucky enough to know some veggie farmers so occasionally I'll get a message for gleaning opportunities or surplus veg available for cheap. Community pantries also get lots of it :)
Only a few minutes in and quickly typed this comment up lest i forget: i used to love drinking beers too, the heavier, sometimes sweeter ones were also the ones i preferred. At that time, i also worked in the gastronomy sector, obviously enjoying the alcohol-related perks of the job. I must admit i can't recall exactly which of the two following i liked better, as it has been many, many years: please, at your leisure , and obviously convenience - meaning if you can find them, for a decent price - give these Belgian beers a try: 1 - Duchesse de Bourgogne 2 - Bourgogne de Flandre They are a perfect fit, at least going by your description :) I hope you find them, drink them and maybe find them as pleasant as i did, back when! Cheers 🍺
In Canada (or at least in my province) restaurant food and snack foods are taxed. We pay a provincial sales tax and a federal Goods and Services Tax (GST partly equivalent to VAT) So crisps are taxed, chips too. In a supermarket I can buy a cooked chicken and pay no sales tax but the same shop with the same cooked chicken if heated will be taxed. Another quirk of our laws: milk is not taxable except in a restaurant setting so you will pay tax on a flagon of milk in a McDonalds but not if the same is purchased from any shop.
The chips actually AREN'T out of date. The best before date is listed among the ingredients. I've worked in a store which sold a lot of foreign foods and noticed that Asian foods usually list a production date as well, which could be listed separately from the best before. Tldr: The chips were made in 2023, you read the wrong date.
A large reason we have too much food being grown is the subsidy system that the US and the UK have in place. I do realize that without these systems many farms would fail because the system as a whole has been set up to rely on them. It is one of those problems that is not easily solved or impossible to solve without temporary disaster at this point. 😵💫
Hi Shrimp! Not sure if you have done an IT setup/workflow video recently. Would be very interested especially backups and what you may use, and if you backup RAW or only finalized videos?
Hi AS ! You know what's kind of funny, the crisps are labeled as Lay's/Walker's but the packaging and shape of the crisps are like our Pringle's which actually are called crisps and not chips. It looks like they stole the idea from Proctor and Gamble (now Kellogg's). When Pringle's were first released here in the US in they were called chips but other chip manufacturers objected to Pringle's using the name "chip" because they were made from a dough and not freshly sliced potatoes, so they had to go with crisps. (Sorry, I wrote this before you explained it :) )
In relation to the crisps/chips topic, here in Australia, fries are normally "hot chips (unless ordered from like an American chain restaurant) and crisps are normally just chips 😅
Food waste is such a strange thing to a point ... here in Germany, it´s currently peak asparagus time. I was raised wasting as little food as possible, so we always used the asparagus peels and croppings to cook asparagus-creme soup. Easy to make, fast and tastes pretty nice with some freshly toasted bread. So imagine my bemusement, when I´ve picked up some of the vegetable last week and found the advice "help reducing food waste - use peels and croppings to cook a soup" on the packaging.
For the past year our family of 6 have been living off of olio we are volunteers that collected surplus food from tesco and co op and give it away to people that need it We have saved over 10,000 meals from being wasted but in the last few months there has been no collection's the shops have started binning it all again as its to much like hard work to sort the items and scan them out at the end of there shifts its a huge shame as alot of struggling people came to depend on us
To add some more confusion to the chips/fries/crisps debacle, here in South Africa we call them all chips, though restaurants (especially foreign ones or ones trying to look American) will sometimes make the distinction with "fries". I personally would argue, however, that South African and British traditionally made chips are a different dish entirely to American fries - they tend to go for completely different textures, are eaten with different things, and topped with different condiments. Some of the younger Brits I've known even make the distinction between chips (the softer traditional kind) and fries (crispy on the outside fluffy on the inside) naturally.
An idea for you as you seem to enjoy beer a lot. I order a case a month from Beer 52 and I've found some right gems in there!! They also include a couple of snack bags and some literature about the beer as well if you wanted to look into more different beers.
Being a Brit, I love dark beers; however, I identified that I am gluten intolerant earlier this year, so most dark beers are no longer an option for me. Whilst there are gluten free beers available, in fact a lot of choice here in Finland, but very few are dark beers, and the choice in the UK is very limited, with only 1 GF ale that I could find, plus 3 or 4 lagers.
The chips vs Crisps debate isn’t really a thing here in Australia as our confusing dialect labels every thing involving fried potatoes chips (fries, crisps, Curley fries) the only exception is hash browns
Love it when you do a weird beer can (or any beer for that matter) This one is one one the best I've tried of odd adjuncted beers and yet still not the weirdest thing I've seen or tried in a beer. Cheers #Disco
@@AtomicShrimp yeah, conflicted with TJ Hughes. Dunno if it still exists, always seemed like "mum can we go to BHS? "we've got BHS at home" *points to TJ Hughes*
Apparently they made beer from potatoes in WW2. At least they did on the Wartime Farm Christmas Special. I wonder if you could actually make beer from pumpkin rather than barley. I bet if anyone could make it work it would be you Sir Shrimp.
In my small town all the supermarkets either mark food down or donate to foodbanks. Exactly where is the waste located ? I personally dont see any waste.
The thing you're describing is the *result* of organisations targeting food waste. If it's truly solved where you live, that sounds great, but the world isn't the same in every place.
Never realised Lays = Walkers. I would have been disappointed in those that you tried because they were so much smaller than what you'd expect (normal Pringle size just about uses the whole inner diameter of the tin).
How does the UK quantify food 'waste' ? Does it include 'food' thats spoiled during the growing eg by flooding? Does it only include food disposed of by supermarkets and not by small shops? Does it include our 'garden' waste bins that we're encouraged to put waste food in or food thats put in individual compost piles. I cant see how it can be accurately calculated. Apart from an orange that still looked good on the outside but was mouldy inside i havent thrown away anythin other than potato peelings the odd cabbage leaf tomato stalks & bones. Fat and seeds are given to the birds the cat gets any bits of fish and meat (yeah we actually make a point of saving some for him). Anything surplus is frozen etc. Even some out of date baking soda was used for cleaning the plug holes.....
Ive just got home from a trip to Normandy, and we bought some honey and mustard crisps there - never seen the flavour before, but now wish we had them here in the UK!
The chinese original lay's flavors I've found tend to be extremely good. We've had here the cucumber and the chicken & tomato flavors as a limited edition flavor and learning they've had these for a long time in china makes me a bit mad, because honestly they are better than almost all the "normal" flavors we get here. I can't remember the last time I bought "regular" lays chips but the limited edition flavors from china and india I've bought multiple times each in the last year.
Being from Australia i always find it strange UK serve beer at 10°c... We serve our beer at between -2°c and 2°c, in fact some beer taps have a thermometers indicating to the patron the temperature of the beer coming out of the tap
@@accountnamewithheld due to the alcohol content, freezing temperature of beer is lower than 0°c... Also I'm glad you said VB and not Foster's as we don't drink it here, however we have many extraordinary craft breweries plus we serve all beer at those temperatures including German IPAs
Whenever you upload a Weird stuff in a can video I try to seek out the items at my local Asian grocery store because somehow they all stock the same items and I JUST walked past the truffle and avocado Lay's yesterday and was very curious to try them but decided not to get them and now I regret it, would've saved me a trip :/
The best odd crisps flavour I've ever tasted was peanuts. It seems like such a mundane flavour for crisps, but for some reason it worked out really well. I probably haven't seen those in thirty years.😔
Get some powdered peanut butter. Yes, that's a thing. It's basically freeze dried peanut butter with most of the oil removed - very popular for making low calorie snacks, desserts and sauces. You get the full peanut taste, without the insane amounts of calories. It's a bit pricey at first glance, but you get a lot of peanut flavor out of one tub. You could just dust that over your crisps and voila - peanut flavored crisps!
I suspect because the beer is at a much more standard strength of 5% it is less sweet than if it were an 8-10% one. I don't really understand it but I find stronger beers also tend to be sweeter
Doesn't the alcohol come from fermented sugars? I'm not a beer drinker, but I would assume a strong beer to be less sweet, for that reason. Or maybe they add extra sugar in the beginning, to support alcohol production by the yeast? I'm German and you aren't allowed to mess with beer that way here, but that might not be true for these 'speciality brews', of course.
There are many pumpkin varieties (like Gelber Zentner or Muskat Kürbis) with hard, unedible skin. You can use theese for both purposes at once, carving 🎃AND cooking. 🥣 At least thats what I did. Just hollow out your pumpkin before using the empty shell for carving 🔪. Why waste all the pulp? Use it for pumpkin soup. But don´t use varieties with edible skin (like Hokkaido or Butternut) for carving. The skin of theese varieties is the best part, it would be an awful shame not to eat it.
Well, the funny part is those kind of chips in that kind of container are usually pringles. And even in America, they are labelled as "crisps" So, as an American, i would call your Lay's chips there "crisps" BTW, i thought Lay's in the UK were called "Walker's" And i love avacado chips. Don't even like avacadoes.
Avocado the biggest let down flavour ever .Was really excited to eat my first avocado with everyone raving about them .Had it in my head it was a cross between cucumber ,water mellon and celery with a mild mint note .Tasted of nothing .
If crisps were types of wood, pringles-style crisps are particle board or maybe even MDF. That's how I've always seen them. Not bad in their own right, but definitely not solid wood 🙂
While living in UK I never did understand why call them chips instead of fries and crisps instead of chips. I can have crispy fries I can have soggy fries. I can have fried chips that are crispy I can have unfried chips that are soggy. How can I have soggy crisps? It doesn't make any sense.
@@AtomicShrimp Chips left in high humidity will become soggy. Or if you don't fry them well, they won't crisp up. E.g. I tried to FRY chips (crisps) but they came out soggy, where did I mess up? Another example : "Chips can become soggy or chewy when exposed to air because they absorb moisture from the environment. This process is known as "staling," and it occurs when the starches in the chips absorb water vapor from the air. " What do you call soggy crisps then?
Stale, I suppose. I think perhaps you're imagining your own language to be perfectly logical and consistent. No dialect of English is. 'Crisps' is just the name of the thing. There is an expectation that they will be crispy, but if they're not, they're still crisps. Like if you have a machine for drying clothes called a 'drier' and you pour water on it, it's a wet drier.
@@AtomicShrimp Yeah, that's what I tried to mention, that it doesn't make logical sense. A chip is a piece of something, a chip can be crispy or soggy so it makes more sense to call it a chip. I understand why fries are called chips but not why chips are called crisps.
I honestly don't have any time for corporate products proselytising about food waste when they're the ones making gimmicky drinks that 99.999% of people will never buy. My local Tesco has a bunch of Northern Monk gimmicky ales in their clearance section that have sat there for at least a month next to the mulled wine
The crisps were in date ( 3:18 ) - the date on the bottom of the can was the production date. Weird, but spotted it when reading the allergens 😅
Oh yeah. How weird
But £3.99 still rather expensive
Putting the production date on food products is also quite common in Japan. You have to be on your guard and know what to look for.
@@AtomicShrimpthis comment is 2 weeks old but the video posted 10 mins ago, how come? Another corker by the way
You replied 2 weeks ago to a 20 minute old video, are you a time traveler my friend
I do appreciate organizations that collect food that would be otherwise wasted and give it to people in need. I’ve personally benefited from such programs when I fell on hard times and they kept me from going hungry.
My local Sainsburys (around 2016), used to throw away mountains of bread by the end of the day. A fancy loaf costing about £3.50, suddenly became worthless. It was quite brazen and the poor lads ordered to do so were given a lot of stick. The UK is a bizarre place sometimes.
I think food waste organisations are great especially local ones. Local is the place to start. Finding things to share and to stop waste within your local community is more effective than trying to make a global impact I feel. I know I've mentioned Olio before but they are great, and helpful for people who need extra food in the community. It's also a nice feeling being part of something and helping out even in a small way.
I tried this beer myself. As it happens, also from TK-MAXX. As a lover of craft beers/ales, I really did enjoy this one. I actually went into the shop to get some new Jeans on the way home from work (TK MAXX is right next to where i work) , and I saw this beer on one of the shelves. Decided it was quite interesting to investigate it. I actually bought 6 cans of the stuff. Realised the money spent was totally worth it (more than my new Jeans). Hoping to see this beer again soon one day.
In regards to the surplus food organisations. For over a year I've been volunteering at one of the larger ones that operates in the North East and serves over 120 communities. It's called The Bread and Butter Thing and for £8.50 you get over £40 worth of surplus food. It comes in 3 bags. A fruit+veg bag, a cupboard bag and a fridge+freezer bag.
It would be interesting to see you explore these more. Maybe see if you can order some food from one of these charities and see what meals and how many meals you could make from what you get, and what the cost of those meals is at the price you got them from the charity compared to what the cost would be if you bought the same ingredients from the supermarket, and also what the cost would be if you bought budget ingredients from the supermarket as often what you get in these surplus bags are not budget options, they are the expensive options like salmon fillets, ribeye steaks etc.
I would say that you can also visit one of these charities and talk to them about their operation, either at a warehouse or one of the hubs where the food is distributed, but I'm not sure that is a good fit for this channel. I also think going into a hub and filming the process of queueing, paying and picking up your bags might be interesting, but I'd advise against it as some people who visit these hubs are vulnerable people or would not like it to be advertised that they visit these hubs despite there being no reason to be ashamed of doing so.
I’d like to support the idea of a cooking/budget video based on one of these deliveries. It might encourage more people to look at these opportunities. And to either shop with them or support the organizations behind them.
Thing is, while food waste is a big problem, it’s not the main cause of hunger in the world. Main cause of hunger is literally people not having access to the food by various means. Domestic food waste is also minimal and should never be considered into the statistics - most food waste is artificially caused by stores and restaurants throwing away good food and also a lot of farmed vegetables are discarded to meet quotas. Which is why as just a person in your home you shouldn’t feel too bad about wasting food - though do try to not do so if possible obviously. And of course I’m not saying such charities are bad, far from it! We do need more of those. Just the idea of food scarcity and waste is more complex than that usually.
Yeah someone binning the rest of their curry isn't causing food insecurity.
I work in a grocery store and we throw out so much food, it's insane. We do donate some stuff to a food bank but there is still an insane amount of waste, some stuff we aren't allowed to donate or sell
Exactly. It's not profitable (or not profitable *enough*) to just give the food away to hungry people or sell it at prices people living in poverty can afford. So, it's thrown away. Now, that discarded food will cost production so quite why they don't either scale back production or sell at a reduced price to recoup some costs, I don't know. It's not rational in the slightest, but it happens on a enormous scale.
@@RaunienTheFirst it's hard to predict yelds and their profitability because it involves divination for what the prices will be a year later when it's time to harvest AND divination again for the amount of product you will get during the harvest.
It can be predicted and approximated to an extent but it's generally safer to overproduce a bit and trash some product than underproduce and have no choice but try to sell at higher price risking to not sell or eat losses by selling below cost.
This is not exclusive to foodstuffs, all mass production has the same issues but when you are working with items that don't expire (or expire after many years) it's easier. Then again there are warehouses full of "old new stock" aka unsold inventory that get sold on clearances or just thrown away as ewaste
I don't think I have ever encountered anyone arguing that food waste is the *cause* of hunger, just that it is an under-exploited potential *solution* to hunger.
The question of whether carving pumpkins is a waste of food made me think about what is a waste of food in the first place. How do you even define it? I can throw away the carrot peel and greens, or I can collect them, like you, and make soup from them. If you only look at the garbage cans at supermarkets and restaurants, then the question is: is it decorative salad, is it spoiled, are there sections that can no longer be used, is it due to transport damage, etc.?
Depending on how I define it, I come up with completely different answers.
I think maybe the most important part is to be pondering the question as you have done here. Thinking about it is the first step, and without the first step, nothing happens.
That’s a brilliant comment but an even better answer. 👍
For pumpkins, my kids only carved pumpkins a few hours before there went trick or treating. Then when they got home we soaked the seeds in salt water over night and put all the pumpkin and bits and pieces caved out into the oven . They were baked ,puréed, measured out put into bags and frozen for future pies, bread, bars and muffins.
Don't think about it too much, just believe and repeat every stat that makes it sound bad and knee jerk react "That's a disgrace!". Then sprinkle in something about food being a 'human right' without ever acknowledging that one person's right to something necessarily means another person's duty to provide it for them, and never address why the 2nd person should provide for the 1st, and not the other way around.
We're just here to virtue signal and sell novelty beer, not to actually solve anything.
And it's hard to even define food that is purchased as a waste in the first place. There is no scarcity so it's not like there isn't enough food being made. I think it's more of trying to make the distribution of said food more efficient.
Environmental researcher here. Most food waste happens at the manufacturing and distribution/sale level, not so much at the consumer level. At the consumer level, Expiration dates were a big problem for a while, which is why there has been a push to use Best Before instead so people don't throw out perfectly good food.
I think those food distribution organisations can be good depending on the context and how they are run. From my experience, its important to evaluate the organisations individually than make blanket statements about them being good or bad. There are examples of both out there.
Most food in China have the date of production printed on them with a fixed best before time period after production printed elsewhere.
I make a point of picking up a bag or two of Chinese Lay’s chips on trips to my local Asian supermarket. They have flavors like Cucumber, Grilled Squid, Roasted Garlic Oyster, Fried Crab, and Kobe Steak.
The UK throws away around 9.5 million tonnes of food waste in a single year - even though 8.4 million people in the UK are in food poverty. It's a disgrace. I think any organisation trying to address that problem is worthy of support.
Sadly, there is still a highly negative attitude to giving food away to those in need. My partner worked in a school kitchen. She asked if she could bag up some leftover food to give away and the subcontracting company that ran the kitchens said you cannot do that as it is considered theft and as such would be gross misconduct... The food went into the bin at the end of every single day. I shan't name the British company that runs it, but they are a very prominent subcontractor used by government for many of our services.... *edited for accuracy.
@@leerobinson8709Didn't know the culture about this was so bad outside the US too! It's frankly disgusting, no point to it but cruelty.
@@xionkuriyama5697I agree with you, it’s incredibly cruel. And I know a lot of people make the argument that the practice of distributing food instead of throwing it away needs to be forbidden because people could get sick from the food & blame the company that threw it out/gave it to them. But we have Good Samaritan laws that protect people attempting to do the right thing in other circumstances, we could just as easily create laws like that in this instance. As long as you’re not giving out food you have a reasonable suspicion/you know could make someone sick, I think you should be protected by law to give it out. We throw out so much good food while so many in our communities starve. It’s heinous.
America has the same problem. Many of society's problems today are really distribution and logistics issues rather than shortages and scarcity.
A company I worked for offered food to take home at the end of the day to ‘help end food poverty’. The company I worked for only employed highly skilled, well paid individuals. The people I spoke to who were taking food home so they ‘weren’t in food poverty’ said things like it’s less money I need to spend out of my salary and it means I don’t have to worry about paying for my expensive mortgage and multiple high-end cars. That initiative did not last long. I do wonder if people like those mentioned are counted in these stats….
I live in China and here these chips cost like 10 yuan, which is around 1.14 GBP. Also, this flavor is seasonal and it came out alongside other flavors, which are better, in my opinion. I’d recommend truffle flavor
I can’t imagine avocado standing up to the flavor of mustard. Seems like it would just be mustard flavored. But porter sounds good.
to the flavor of anything really*
A light breeze could combat the taste of avocados
They probably add very little mustard flavouring and quite a lot of avacado flavouring.
Beautiful day here in the UK today really lifted my spirits, I was able to go out the garden and get some much needed tidying done and then to come in to a Shrimp vid to watch is bliss, Thanks Mike you're a tonic. Do I wish every video you do was an hour and a half long ? yes lol but i'm happy for it all !
Sounds like we had a very similar day. 😀
I work for one of the country's largest commercial food distribution companies and we work with several local charities in West Yorkshire to donate surplus foods. It's mainly fresh and ambient food nearing it's use by dates to one charity and frozen products where the outer packaging has been damaged but the internal packaging is intact to another, as well as one off donations for specific charity events etc.. An example would be frozen chips sold in cases of four bags, one bag has split but the others are intact so they would go to charity as commercial customers want the case of four bags they ordered.
Down here in Australia, “chips” is a catch all terms for fries, packaged chips and the like.
In Australia, chips and crisps are both just called chips. You can tell what is meant by context, I guess.
If someone said let's get fish n chips, and you ended up with salmon and a packet of cheese and onions chips, you'd be like 'What?..'.
Chips all the way down.
Must be the strangest ever flavour combination of beer and crisps! It’s definitely not a Carling with a packet of cheese & onion, that’s for sure! 😂
Dare I say can't be a pint of draught carling. Hard to find though.
I'd rather drink a glass of urine.
I had to restart the video twice to catch the toucan! 😅
I’d hardly call the chip box a can though
First watch through I was wondering where it was too.
Really interesting to watch. I might never see either of these things for purchase, but it's fun to hear what they're like. The beer tasting chart was a nice addition.
Thanks for letting us join you for your evening drink and chips. 😊
Australia calls both hot and snacks chips, chips
Same in South Africa
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If I remember correctly, the British food authority has in the past classified all those Pringles like "chips" as biscuits. Chips by definition have to be chipped out of something. Pringles and such are baked from some kind of dough. So it makes sense to call them salty biscuits.
That's why in America, pringles are called "crisps" because they're not sliced potatoes
Oh wow in the US pringles are potato based, just not sliced potatoes. Although doritos are still called chips even though they're made from corn
@driverjayne even here in the US they aren't allowed to call them potato chips. While potato based, they haven't been allowed to do so for many decades.
Just remember that "biscuit" is also regional dialect. Y'all Brits call cookies & crackers that, but in the USA, they are a small, leavened quickbread, somewhat like the British "scone" (but usually w/o the dried fruit or other sweet stuff--we eat them with meat gravy, or like an English muffin as the cladding on a breakfast sandwich).
Flavour profile diagram was brilliant ! Much easier to read than the flavour pyramid they teach when you study perfume or organic chemistry, with the head notes on top, heart notes middle and bottom notes bottom. I always found that the pyramid made sense intellectually but did not accurately reflect the experience. Your diagram does. I would like to borrow it, please.
Glad it was helpful - I'm not sure I invented it, so help yourself if it's useful
@@AtomicShrimp Thank you!
Think of food production (or almost any production) like an army medic going into battle. He doesn't know how many painkillers or bandages he needs, because we can't see the future. To make sure he has enough he'll bring more than he needs because it's better to have to much than too little. If you have too little food then that's obviously a massive problem. People not being able to afford enough food is a problem, but no reason to shame the fact we have an abundance of food for everyone else.
This exactly. People don't really understand the concept of surplus. I agree that we could do better in distributing food to reduce 'waste' which is in companies best interests to achieve to maximize profits anyway. And yes poverty preventing people from buying food is a problem, but a surplus is a very good problem to have indeed.
I love weird stuff in a can & very interesting items 👍Thanks Atomic Shrimp 🦐😊👍
i love your reflection about the production of "waste" food within our system. not very many people have that level of consciousness!
On the food waste topic where i live there's just a few grocery stores that participate in the Flash Food app, but I'm lucky enough to know some veggie farmers so occasionally I'll get a message for gleaning opportunities or surplus veg available for cheap. Community pantries also get lots of it :)
Only a few minutes in and quickly typed this comment up lest i forget: i used to love drinking beers too, the heavier, sometimes sweeter ones were also the ones i preferred. At that time, i also worked in the gastronomy sector, obviously enjoying the alcohol-related perks of the job. I must admit i can't recall exactly which of the two following i liked better, as it has been many, many years: please, at your leisure , and obviously convenience - meaning if you can find them, for a decent price - give these Belgian beers a try:
1 - Duchesse de Bourgogne 2 - Bourgogne de Flandre
They are a perfect fit, at least going by your description :) I hope you find them, drink them and maybe find them as pleasant as i did, back when!
Cheers 🍺
In Canada (or at least in my province) restaurant food and snack foods are taxed. We pay a provincial sales tax and a federal Goods and Services Tax (GST partly equivalent to VAT) So crisps are taxed, chips too. In a supermarket I can buy a cooked chicken and pay no sales tax but the same shop with the same cooked chicken if heated will be taxed. Another quirk of our laws: milk is not taxable except in a restaurant setting so you will pay tax on a flagon of milk in a McDonalds but not if the same is purchased from any shop.
I have never heard of avocado crisps before, they look nice but seem expensive.
If you have the chance, do try the Iberico Ham or Truffle flavored chips from Lays. Absolutlry brilliant.
The chips actually AREN'T out of date. The best before date is listed among the ingredients.
I've worked in a store which sold a lot of foreign foods and noticed that Asian foods usually list a production date as well, which could be listed separately from the best before.
Tldr: The chips were made in 2023, you read the wrong date.
A large reason we have too much food being grown is the subsidy system that the US and the UK have in place. I do realize that without these systems many farms would fail because the system as a whole has been set up to rely on them. It is one of those problems that is not easily solved or impossible to solve without temporary disaster at this point. 😵💫
Hi Shrimp! Not sure if you have done an IT setup/workflow video recently. Would be very interested especially backups and what you may use, and if you backup RAW or only finalized videos?
Hi AS ! You know what's kind of funny, the crisps are labeled as Lay's/Walker's but the packaging and shape of the crisps are like our Pringle's which actually are called crisps and not chips. It looks like they stole the idea from Proctor and Gamble (now Kellogg's). When Pringle's were first released here in the US in they were called chips but other chip manufacturers objected to Pringle's using the name "chip" because they were made from a dough and not freshly sliced potatoes, so they had to go with crisps. (Sorry, I wrote this before you explained it :) )
In relation to the crisps/chips topic, here in Australia, fries are normally "hot chips (unless ordered from like an American chain restaurant) and crisps are normally just chips 😅
Apparently I hear on the news that stout is very popular and selling more than normal beers in supermarkets and more so by women it appears
Food waste is such a strange thing to a point ... here in Germany, it´s currently peak asparagus time. I was raised wasting as little food as possible, so we always used the asparagus peels and croppings to cook asparagus-creme soup. Easy to make, fast and tastes pretty nice with some freshly toasted bread. So imagine my bemusement, when I´ve picked up some of the vegetable last week and found the advice "help reducing food waste - use peels and croppings to cook a soup" on the packaging.
what's wrong with your apostrophes
I like the name for chips for hot chips and crisps for the crunchy potato snack
For the past year our family of 6 have been living off of olio we are volunteers that collected surplus food from tesco and co op and give it away to people that need it
We have saved over 10,000 meals from being wasted but in the last few months there has been no collection's the shops have started binning it all again as its to much like hard work to sort the items and scan them out at the end of there shifts its a huge shame as alot of struggling people came to depend on us
1:38 in America the carving pumpkins actually make really good pies and other pumpkin things
To add some more confusion to the chips/fries/crisps debacle, here in South Africa we call them all chips, though restaurants (especially foreign ones or ones trying to look American) will sometimes make the distinction with "fries".
I personally would argue, however, that South African and British traditionally made chips are a different dish entirely to American fries - they tend to go for completely different textures, are eaten with different things, and topped with different condiments. Some of the younger Brits I've known even make the distinction between chips (the softer traditional kind) and fries (crispy on the outside fluffy on the inside) naturally.
An idea for you as you seem to enjoy beer a lot. I order a case a month from Beer 52 and I've found some right gems in there!! They also include a couple of snack bags and some literature about the beer as well if you wanted to look into more different beers.
Being a Brit, I love dark beers; however, I identified that I am gluten intolerant earlier this year, so most dark beers are no longer an option for me. Whilst there are gluten free beers available, in fact a lot of choice here in Finland, but very few are dark beers, and the choice in the UK is very limited, with only 1 GF ale that I could find, plus 3 or 4 lagers.
E621 is MSG or monosodium glutamate. So it should have a noticeably umami flavour
I think I would really like those Lays, but I've tried a different variety of pumpkin beer before and found it quite distasteful.
The chips vs Crisps debate isn’t really a thing here in Australia as our confusing dialect labels every thing involving fried potatoes chips (fries, crisps, Curley fries) the only exception is hash browns
I bought those same avocado crisps here in China at the local Hotmaxx, a discount chain that sells off food products that are nearing expiry.
9:32 a bit like the is Jaffa cake a cake or biscuit. But we wont go down that rabbit hole right now!
I don't think I'd try either of these, but I do like the "Tasting Notes Diagram" graphic you added. :)
"Spice. It doesn't say what spice, though."
I can tell you what Spice it is.
*Dune theme*
(angry sandworm sounds)
So spice
Love it when you do a weird beer can (or any beer for that matter) This one is one one the best I've tried of odd adjuncted beers and yet still not the weirdest thing I've seen or tried in a beer. Cheers #Disco
Just an interesting bit of information that TK Maxx there is called TJ Maxx in the US.
Yeah, apparently there was some potential collision of branding on the TJ thing here in the UK, so they decided to brand as TK here
@@AtomicShrimp yeah, conflicted with TJ Hughes. Dunno if it still exists, always seemed like "mum can we go to BHS? "we've got BHS at home" *points to TJ Hughes*
Apparently they made beer from potatoes in WW2. At least they did on the Wartime Farm Christmas Special. I wonder if you could actually make beer from pumpkin rather than barley. I bet if anyone could make it work it would be you Sir Shrimp.
I used to work for Subway and we threw away about half of the bread we baked every day.
Weyhey! It's now a great morning. Sunshine and Shrimp.
I don't drink but that Porter sounds delicious. Chocolate? Licorice? Sign me up.
I'm not a beer person, but I would try that. Sounds like liquid dessert 😅
In my small town all the supermarkets either mark food down or donate to foodbanks. Exactly where is the waste located ? I personally dont see any waste.
The thing you're describing is the *result* of organisations targeting food waste. If it's truly solved where you live, that sounds great, but the world isn't the same in every place.
Never realised Lays = Walkers. I would have been disappointed in those that you tried because they were so much smaller than what you'd expect (normal Pringle size just about uses the whole inner diameter of the tin).
I have to admit I was disappointed to not see the little toucan pop up when I saw that it was a two can special :)
look harder
@@AtomicShrimp I stand corrected! Lovely.
Halloween is the biggest waste of pumpkins ever. Most empty their pumpkins for carving and just dispose of the perfectly good pumpkin.
I can't imagine those crisps (chips?) ever going out of date after seeing the list of ingredients!
Love you Shrimps xxx
How does the UK quantify food 'waste' ? Does it include 'food' thats spoiled during the growing eg by flooding? Does it only include food disposed of by supermarkets and not by small shops? Does it include our 'garden' waste bins that we're encouraged to put waste food in or food thats put in individual compost piles. I cant see how it can be accurately calculated. Apart from an orange that still looked good on the outside but was mouldy inside i havent thrown away anythin other than potato peelings the odd cabbage leaf tomato stalks & bones. Fat and seeds are given to the birds the cat gets any bits of fish and meat (yeah we actually make a point of saving some for him). Anything surplus is frozen etc. Even some out of date baking soda was used for cleaning the plug holes.....
Chip happens!! Love it 😅😊
Avocado vinaigrette is a thing, of which mustard is one of the keep components.
In France mustard flavored crisps are quite popular but i have never seen anything with avocado.
Ive just got home from a trip to Normandy, and we bought some honey and mustard crisps there - never seen the flavour before, but now wish we had them here in the UK!
Do you chill the glass before pouring the drink in?
Not necessary to do that
When you were describing the beer, you seemed to be channelling Oz Clarke and Jilly Goolden!
Almost thought there wasn't a toucan, such a lil' guy hanging out in the corner.
Nice Hiss. 👀💨💀............../.............. here in Australia we call all of them chips lol
The chinese original lay's flavors I've found tend to be extremely good. We've had here the cucumber and the chicken & tomato flavors as a limited edition flavor and learning they've had these for a long time in china makes me a bit mad, because honestly they are better than almost all the "normal" flavors we get here. I can't remember the last time I bought "regular" lays chips but the limited edition flavors from china and india I've bought multiple times each in the last year.
Being from Australia i always find it strange UK serve beer at 10°c... We serve our beer at between -2°c and 2°c, in fact some beer taps have a thermometers indicating to the patron the temperature of the beer coming out of the tap
VB so bad it has to be ice before it's palatable? :)
@@accountnamewithheld due to the alcohol content, freezing temperature of beer is lower than 0°c... Also I'm glad you said VB and not Foster's as we don't drink it here, however we have many extraordinary craft breweries plus we serve all beer at those temperatures including German IPAs
It's served at cellar temperature because there is a lot to taste. Chilling beer down to nearly freezing suppresses the flavours.
Whenever you upload a Weird stuff in a can video I try to seek out the items at my local Asian grocery store because somehow they all stock the same items and I JUST walked past the truffle and avocado Lay's yesterday and was very curious to try them but decided not to get them and now I regret it, would've saved me a trip :/
Last beer I probably would have purchased off the description , but you know.
The best odd crisps flavour I've ever tasted was peanuts. It seems like such a mundane flavour for crisps, but for some reason it worked out really well. I probably haven't seen those in thirty years.😔
Get some powdered peanut butter. Yes, that's a thing. It's basically freeze dried peanut butter with most of the oil removed - very popular for making low calorie snacks, desserts and sauces. You get the full peanut taste, without the insane amounts of calories.
It's a bit pricey at first glance, but you get a lot of peanut flavor out of one tub.
You could just dust that over your crisps and voila - peanut flavored crisps!
@@raraavis7782 I'll keep an eye out for it, thanks.
How do you know it's not made of carved pumpkins? It's beer; they know you're not going to be able to tell by the time it's done.
How to end food waste....make beer.
OK, I'm all for that.
Ya l am in Canada and we call those things "chips" and the thicker potato things cooked in a deep fryer "French Fries" or "Fries".
Unrelated but i remember in a Q&A video you did a couple years ago you mentioned you got a metal detector, is that ever gonna appear in any videos?
I suspect because the beer is at a much more standard strength of 5% it is less sweet than if it were an 8-10% one. I don't really understand it but I find stronger beers also tend to be sweeter
Doesn't the alcohol come from fermented sugars? I'm not a beer drinker, but I would assume a strong beer to be less sweet, for that reason.
Or maybe they add extra sugar in the beginning, to support alcohol production by the yeast? I'm German and you aren't allowed to mess with beer that way here, but that might not be true for these 'speciality brews', of course.
The Chinese cucumber flavor lays is my favorite. But my husband really hates it. If you wanna try I'd like to hear your opinion. 😊
There are many pumpkin varieties (like Gelber Zentner or Muskat Kürbis) with hard, unedible skin. You can use theese for both purposes at once, carving 🎃AND cooking. 🥣 At least thats what I did. Just hollow out your pumpkin before using the empty shell for carving 🔪. Why waste all the pulp? Use it for pumpkin soup.
But don´t use varieties with edible skin (like Hokkaido or Butternut) for carving. The skin of theese varieties is the best part, it would be an awful shame not to eat it.
Are they chippy or are they crispy?
best weird lays chips was the wasabi ginger. bring them back!!
Well, the funny part is those kind of chips in that kind of container are usually pringles. And even in America, they are labelled as "crisps"
So, as an American, i would call your Lay's chips there "crisps"
BTW, i thought Lay's in the UK were called "Walker's"
And i love avacado chips. Don't even like avacadoes.
2:31 where did you find that sign?
Avocado the biggest let down flavour ever .Was really excited to eat my first avocado with everyone raving about them .Had it in my head it was a cross between cucumber ,water mellon and celery with a mild mint note .Tasted of nothing .
It's very plain and creamy, but it definitely has a mild taste. I love it ❤
@@AlissaSss23 costs a fortune growing it and shipping it .Not very green .
Eat guacamole. Mild mint note? Yuck
what the f... I think I would need to mentally prepare for at least a week to taste this beer otherwise my brain would explode
That flavor profile diagram, though. We're going professional with the food tasting here, eh? 😅
Thank you for the video.
Heh! Dropped in on that 14s after it went public.
Beer? I thought it was a coffee drink. 😂
If crisps were types of wood, pringles-style crisps are particle board or maybe even MDF. That's how I've always seen them. Not bad in their own right, but definitely not solid wood 🙂
6 months to old chips. Probably not long enough to develop a good "Boggs" smell
While living in UK I never did understand why call them chips instead of fries and crisps instead of chips. I can have crispy fries I can have soggy fries. I can have fried chips that are crispy I can have unfried chips that are soggy. How can I have soggy crisps? It doesn't make any sense.
I've never encountered soggy crisps
@@AtomicShrimp Chips left in high humidity will become soggy. Or if you don't fry them well, they won't crisp up. E.g. I tried to FRY chips (crisps) but they came out soggy, where did I mess up? Another example : "Chips can become soggy or chewy when exposed to air because they absorb moisture from the environment. This process is known as "staling," and it occurs when the starches in the chips absorb water vapor from the air. " What do you call soggy crisps then?
Stale, I suppose. I think perhaps you're imagining your own language to be perfectly logical and consistent. No dialect of English is.
'Crisps' is just the name of the thing. There is an expectation that they will be crispy, but if they're not, they're still crisps. Like if you have a machine for drying clothes called a 'drier' and you pour water on it, it's a wet drier.
@@AtomicShrimp Yeah, that's what I tried to mention, that it doesn't make logical sense. A chip is a piece of something, a chip can be crispy or soggy so it makes more sense to call it a chip. I understand why fries are called chips but not why chips are called crisps.
Language is not logic, I think, is the answer.
Whatever happened to butter mountains and wine lakes when they produced to much in the last century.....
I honestly don't have any time for corporate products proselytising about food waste when they're the ones making gimmicky drinks that 99.999% of people will never buy.
My local Tesco has a bunch of Northern Monk gimmicky ales in their clearance section that have sat there for at least a month next to the mulled wine
The chip hits the fandabbydozy.