Aww. Bless his heart......what a strong man he is......i am so glad you guys made this video. I never held a grudge against Mr. Bruce Ismay. Granted my very first introduction to him was the James Cameron 97 film. It didn't bother me his character in that film did not. It wasnt until i got older became an adult and found myself obsessed with Titanic that his character in that film started to bother me. Once i educated myself on any and all information i could possibly get my hands on i started to feel bad for Mr. Ismay. I thought he got the short end of the stick. And i wished he had not been publicly shamed like he was. I learned he was helping people into the life boats. And that ot didn't really go down the way i had been led to believe. I first found out that First officer W. Murdochs family did not appreciate the way he was represented in that 97 film and that James Cameron had apologized to them. So i started wondering what else did I have wrong? So i started researching Mr Bruce Ismay and i learned he was also not portrayed as what i myself would consider accurate. Now that i am older and spent time doing my own research i see so many different people and things in a whole new light. Sorry for rambling. Just wanted to add i am glad you guys made the video very cool. And we need this to spread far and wide.
Ismay went back to his cabin at one point and pulled on trousers but his pajamas showed under the pants legs, according to Edith Rosenbaum who credited him for saving her life. They later corresponded, exchanging two or three letters.
Ismay didn’t deserve to be called a coward. He helped a decent number of women and children into lifeboats before being the last person to board his lifeboat. I definitely believe it was actually a good thing Ismay survived the sinking too. He was the one who spoke with Carpathia Captain Rostron about turning down the RMS Olympic’s offer to carry the survivors for them since a ship looking near-identical to the Titanic would most likely give the survivors greater anxiety. He also led to the start of the White Star Line/Cunard Line rivalry turning around and even offered to reimburse the Cunard Line for having their Carpathia give up her voyage and weaken her parts to rescue as many people as possible from the Titanic disaster and then return to New York City with them, even though Cunard rejected it.
I used to believe Bruce Ismay was how it was shown the movies. Especially when every movie and documentary shown Ismay as a villain and coward. I'm glad Bruce Ismay's story is being told the way it should have been told from the beginning. He didn't deserve the treatment he got and definitely didn't deserve to be called a coward either. He wasn't a villain on the Titanic. I believe he was more of a hero having helped save lives that night. I definitely see him in a different light now having heard more of his real story. Poor guy.
Indeed, it is a noble endeavour to give back a voice to those who can no longer defend themselves. Even when rehabilitation comes a long time after, it is still rehabilitation, and therefore right to pursue. Brethren or not, if they were of good renown, it should be said.
I think its so wrong that people expected men to die in that time to show that they are gentlemen. Every soul deserves to live, if Ismay survived, it wasn’t his time to go. Let God be the judge 🙏🏻
I have read somewhere that a female passenger witnessed other men jumping into the lifeboats with their wives because they didn't have the guts to go down with the ship. Now, if this is true, then why is Ismay being singled out? I have also read somewhere that he was actually ordered into the lifeboat by 1 of the officers. So, whose right and whose wrong? Share your thoughts......
I think he realised that he is the only person to speak after this and the only one from white star ,the captain went down Andrews also ,what he didn't know was the reaction in those times ...I think he was deeply effected to his last day.may he rest in peace
You’d be incorrect. All witness accounts have him feverishly helping women and children onboard life boats, there’s also a maid who he saw and grabbed her to put her on the boat. When she tried resisting to say no she’s only a servant he told her it didn’t matter, she’s still a woman. The woman’s husband wrote a letter which we discuss here afterwards thanking Ismay
Aww. Bless his heart......what a strong man he is......i am so glad you guys made this video. I never held a grudge against Mr. Bruce Ismay. Granted my very first introduction to him was the James Cameron 97 film. It didn't bother me his character in that film did not. It wasnt until i got older became an adult and found myself obsessed with Titanic that his character in that film started to bother me. Once i educated myself on any and all information i could possibly get my hands on i started to feel bad for Mr. Ismay. I thought he got the short end of the stick. And i wished he had not been publicly shamed like he was. I learned he was helping people into the life boats. And that ot didn't really go down the way i had been led to believe. I first found out that First officer W. Murdochs family did not appreciate the way he was represented in that 97 film and that James Cameron had apologized to them. So i started wondering what else did I have wrong? So i started researching Mr Bruce Ismay and i learned he was also not portrayed as what i myself would consider accurate. Now that i am older and spent time doing my own research i see so many different people and things in a whole new light. Sorry for rambling. Just wanted to add i am glad you guys made the video very cool. And we need this to spread far and wide.
You’re not at all rambling! Truth needs to be told. Your comments appreciated and thank you for taking the time to make it. Really
Ismay went back to his cabin at one point and pulled on trousers but his pajamas showed under the pants legs, according to Edith Rosenbaum who credited him for saving her life. They later corresponded, exchanging two or three letters.
Ismay didn’t deserve to be called a coward. He helped a decent number of women and children into lifeboats before being the last person to board his lifeboat. I definitely believe it was actually a good thing Ismay survived the sinking too. He was the one who spoke with Carpathia Captain Rostron about turning down the RMS Olympic’s offer to carry the survivors for them since a ship looking near-identical to the Titanic would most likely give the survivors greater anxiety. He also led to the start of the White Star Line/Cunard Line rivalry turning around and even offered to reimburse the Cunard Line for having their Carpathia give up her voyage and weaken her parts to rescue as many people as possible from the Titanic disaster and then return to New York City with them, even though Cunard rejected it.
Cliff, J Bruce's spirit is smiling upon you.
I used to believe Bruce Ismay was how it was shown the movies. Especially when every movie and documentary shown Ismay as a villain and coward. I'm glad Bruce Ismay's story is being told the way it should have been told from the beginning. He didn't deserve the treatment he got and definitely didn't deserve to be called a coward either. He wasn't a villain on the Titanic. I believe he was more of a hero having helped save lives that night. I definitely see him in a different light now having heard more of his real story. Poor guy.
Indeed, it is a noble endeavour to give back a voice to those who can no longer defend themselves. Even when rehabilitation comes a long time after, it is still rehabilitation, and therefore right to pursue. Brethren or not, if they were of good renown, it should be said.
I think its so wrong that people expected men to die in that time to show that they are gentlemen. Every soul deserves to live, if Ismay survived, it wasn’t his time to go. Let God be the judge 🙏🏻
I have read somewhere that a female passenger witnessed other men jumping into the lifeboats with their wives because they didn't have the guts to go down with the ship.
Now, if this is true, then why is Ismay being singled out? I have also read somewhere that he was actually ordered into the lifeboat by 1 of the officers.
So, whose right and whose wrong?
Share your thoughts......
What would you have done ?
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What would you have done?
I think he realised that he is the only person to speak after this and the only one from white star ,the captain went down Andrews also ,what he didn't know was the reaction in those times ...I think he was deeply effected to his last day.may he rest in peace
Knowing what I know of corporate greed. I suspect Mr. Ismay was not actively searching for a woman or child to offer his seat to.
You’d be incorrect. All witness accounts have him feverishly helping women and children onboard life boats, there’s also a maid who he saw and grabbed her to put her on the boat. When she tried resisting to say no she’s only a servant he told her it didn’t matter, she’s still a woman. The woman’s husband wrote a letter which we discuss here afterwards thanking Ismay