Absolutely! The only reason I waited with immersion was because combined with being really busy, I didn't enjoy it as much with low comprehension. But even when I was immersion at least a little bit, it still gave lots of benefit.
Finally the day has come that I've been talking about for nearly a year straight! The day I finish the Core 2k/6k deck and start focusing primarily on immersion. Hopefully you'll enjoy the video! also I know that I completely ignored stroke order at 1:36 lol EDIT: The summer is over and I successfully managed to learn for 5 hours every day on average! Here is the follow-up on my second channel: ruclips.net/video/krEgShwkL7E/видео.html EDIT2: 950 days has turned to 1095+ days, so, as promised, here's the 3 years update video, where I actually speak Japanese: ruclips.net/video/JVAcg1FuyOY/видео.html
Instead of core 2k/6k I've found it way more useful to build my vocab through immersion and sentence mining. To each their own of course, but words just stick way better to me when I can recall a word that I want to learn that a character used in a story. The context is just way stronger to me and there's much more to tie that word to in my head because I'm engaged with the story, if that makes sense. There's also the act of "discovering" the word and looking it up yourself that's pretty valuable I find and lets it stick way more. Excited what the summer brings you, I'm in awe of your discipline and determination!
@@yaniimov Well for me almost exclusively video material like anime and movies either through torrents or netflix, and also youtube videos that have Japanese subtitles with that "CC" option. Only because that's what I enjoy the most and keeps me going (I get demotivated pretty quickly). There's tools and plugins to quickly create anki cards from these video players but the one I use are the ones from Migaku. They have a youtube channel if you're interested where they explain what the features are. For me honestly it's the best money I've spent for learning japanese (only 5$ for their patreon). I don't read manga so I can't pitch in on that but I feel like it would be hard to make flash cards out of those since you can't copy-paste from those scanned manga is my guess.
I hate flashcards. Like, those decks give me depression. I just can't do the core decks for a long time. It just... really bothers me. I quit like 1k words in but I'm pretty good on grammar and what worked well for me is doing exactly that. Graded readers and then every sentence that I didn't get or where I was very unsure of a word (including the reading. I might know that 平和 means peace or that 大変 means difficult but if I can't read them as へいわ and たいへん then that sentence is going into the deck). That works much better for me because when I see the sentence for the second time in the deck I already saw it a bunch. I read it once, dealt with it when I looked up the word, typed (not copied) it into anki once, typed it again to add furigana to the backside of the card and then saw it twice when the card shows up for the first time. Graded readers are also designed to teach you stuff. They repeat a lot of words. There's this one graded reader about that american guy that built some sort of house in hiroshima after the bomb and you always have the words 家, 一緒に, 来る, 作る and phrases like 暗い顔 and 明るい顔 showing up constantly. So naturally you'll have words multiple times on those cards. They are also fairly short so you can read them again periodically and see your progress. First time you probably copied every second sentence into anki. After a while you just... read them... like your native language. White Rabbit has some i their iOS and Android app with audio and optional furigana. That way you don't spend an hour on the toilet because you "just want to review your cards" and it turned into an hour of something that's only comparable to your hand in a deep fryer but you're actually using the language and slowly build up your deck which you can then use to facilitate that knowledge because you don't have the millage that you get if you're more advanced where you are just able to read a good amount of text in an acceptable amount of time and see words over and over again just because they're frequently used in the language.
@@robinkuster1127 yeah graded readers is probably the best method to acquire a language as per Dr. Krashen’s advice, but I get so bored with them sadly.. Well good for you at least!
Whoa!! This is very interesting! The day before yesterday I downloaded and configurated Anki in my laptop to learn 2k/6k Japanese. Basically, I'm going to start this! The video came just at the right moment! Good luck in your inmersion, definitely, it is the next step and the best form to practice and improve your skills in a language!
Don't do any activity that is daunting and difficult, find another deck or start sentence mining right away. In my opinion, OP suggests very ineffective technique.
@リュークの母 This, I tried Core2k, after 1000 words it became such a colossal activity, it's not good. Try something simple and transition to native media and mine words
We learn language by using it, not by studying it. Start reading something that looks fun to you. You'll pick up words along the way. Learning words through a deck won't give you an understanding of how the word is used, only a rough translation. Make your own deck and add words you encounter to it.
@@jesper9147 The difficulty in that is if I don't know grammar, sentence structure and more than basic vocabulary, I won't understand anything in the stuff I'm reading full stop, so it's usefulness would be diminished surely?
@@Maddogs1 Not at all. You didn't study grammar before learning your native language. Grammar should be learned outside of immersion in addition, since that will boost your understanding, but words should be learned through contex. Continue reading and you'll notice patterns in the language. You'll start understanding things, especially with some outside help with grammar. This is what I'm experiencing right now at least. It makes sense doesn't it? I'm playing a shit ton of Yo-Kai Watch 4, and it's working. ruclips.net/video/pSvH9vH60Ig/видео.html I recommend this!
I just started the all in one kanji deck like a few weeks ago. This video really motivates me to see that people actually go through this PAINFULLY slow process of learning the words by repetition. The good part comes when you start understanding more of what you read/listen in japanese bit by bit. Good luck inmersing yourself in the language! As I learned when I started learning english, that's the most enjoyable part of adquiring a new language.
@@waynicliz english by a long shot, specially if your native language is a romantic one (They use A to Z just like english, so you save yourself the hassle of learning new letters).
After hearing that you‘ll start practicing for 5 hours a day after a thousand days of learning I am honestly reevaluating whether I should even continue trying to learn this crazy language that is Japanese
I've had the same thought. i just tell myself "What if I started 5 years ago? What could I say and understand now?" And so, I began that "5 year" journey last year in April (timescale is kinda irrelevant, since language should be a lifelong thing just like English/ native language).
@@JJ-jt7mx depends on how hard a language is. English, for example, is known by the majority of people in the world because it's fairly easy to learn and you find it anywhere nowadays, both irl and on the internet. It's not really a lifetime goal. I'd say I'm fluent and I haven't even ever studied it (I'm 17).
Don't get discouraged, you really don't have to be this extreme about it. I know people that can speak and understand Japanese well without ever touching anki. I'm also getting there, just by consuming media. Just immerse and do a little bit every day, you'll get there.
Don't give up! This approach to learning a language is very extreme and unnecesarry. Ask yourself how you learned new words in your native language, or if you're not a native english person, how did you learn english words. Is it by using the lanugage, and learning new words by encountering them while reading or listening. If you try to learn words out of context, like shown in this video, you won't get a complete understanding of the word. A word is like a person; you have to get to know them, you have to meet them many times in different situations. Start reading something that interest you! Have fun while learning! There is no point in suffering through something like this!
I'd think long and hard if you actually want to learn Japanese. There are languages that are easier. Like, a lot of the difficulty comes from the writing system. Korean is similar to Japanese but without the crazy writing. That might be a better fit. If you just want to learn a language than there are a lot of languages that are more useful and less stressful (I learnt Spanish to a point where I don't need to rely on textbooks just because I needed a break from Japanese). But it's also important to have something to keep the language alive. Like, the Japanese learning community shits a lot on anime and video games but lets be honest if you like those things and can't afford to travel to Japan a lot than that is a very good way to keep your Japanese alive. And the language is totally worth learning then. If somebody asked me if they should learn Japanese, I'd more often than not say that they shouldn't. But if you are interested and see the use for it and then wonder if you made the right call, the answer is most likely yes. Also, don't forget that everybody learns differently. The only thing fluent Japanese as a second language speaker have in common is that they use the language a lot. They read a lot, watch Japanese media, live in Japan, whatever. Not all of then went through Remember the Kanji. Not all of them went through a Core X000 Anki deck. Not all of them even used a text book. As long as you can find a way to use the language regularly even early on and have fun with it, you can learn it. It's not difficult. Just time consuming. If you can keep it up you'll learn. You find 5 years old post on reddit talking about how anki decks are the best thing ever for learning Japanese and their flair has been "beginner" for 5 years. You also find people that say "I don't really like the core decks I do something else" and a year later they post really detailed grammar explanations. You have to find your way.
Love the runescape clips :) just started using anki about a month ago and I wish I knew the language more when I lived there. Super excited to getting more proficient with a combo of that and writing characters. Thanks for the vids!
Thanks!! That's exactly what I'm hoping for as well, the hard part is over, and now's the time to have fun and explore whilst learning at the same time!
I want to thank you for putting out these video's, 2 weeks ago I started learning the core 2k/6k deck with anki. And l like it a lot but can still be super tough. So your video's help me a lot staying motivated and keep me from slacking
I’ve been watching your channel for 3 months now and I always get super motivated when I watch your videos, but unfortunately school doesn’t give me enough time to study
Not gonna lie, i just love ur editing style. Always puts a smile to my face. Especially liked that one doge hesitantly saying kon-ban-wa? To the salary man doge. Low-key comedy gold 👌keep it up man
1:50 immersion 2:04 Only use Again & Good Anki buttons and not the Hard button. Use Easy for quickly rebuilding a missed card. 4:13 reading, listening, conversation 4:29 1 day of learning chart
Currently studying a Bachelor of IT in University and I've been set on picking up a language [was torn between Mandarin or Japanese] and I decided last week to start Japanese. Going to take a Japanese minor for my degree [roughly six units, 13 weeks each] Starting with 30 minutes daily of Duolingo [for basics and practise] 1-2 Japanese lessons on Pimsleur daily [with a goal to finish all the way till Japanese level 5] Started Duolingo tonight and Pimsleur a few days ago [on lesson 6 now] and once I've got the basics down will start the 2k/6k Anki deck as well. Wish me luck lmao
Good luck!! He has mentioned it a bunch, but Matt Vs Japan is a super resource. Kinda a controversial guy, but I have been following him for around a year and its amazing. He has a website Refold.ia which was referenced in this video. Best wishes to you and your journey... It’s a long one.
@@Reforming_LL “allegedly” lol. I love the guy and his brand, I just know there have been an individual or two who have collaborated with him and took the time to make a few videos about their experiences…. I’m pro Refold, and the edginess lol, I just think that could constitute controversy.
Good luck on your immersion and congratulation on the complete deck! Also thanks for the insights and tipps. I just started using a variation of 2k/6k a week ago and i am really enjoying it so far. I'm still on the default 20 new cards per day but i guess this will soon change when i get more and more old cards. I already edited a few cards to add translations for english words i don't know well. Thanks for the inspiration and the ressources!
great video! I'm currently halfway through Tango N5 because I hated Core 2K/6K when I was first getting into Japanese. But your vids always really get me excited! Most of the Japanese learning channels are of those always fluent so it feels nice to watch someone who's on the journey with us.
Congrats for the milestone!! I began learning with Anki in January of this year but stopped for almost two months now, for many personal reasons. But I'm excited to restart my learning!
I've made a terrible mistake when I didn't pick up a pre-existing deck and tried to create my own. In the beginning I actually checked a pre-existing deck out but I knew too many words already and got scared to burn out on Anki if I had to basically start from 0 again. But hey, no reason to give up. If anything your content has been extremely motivating in making me push harder. Edit: Currently at 4700 cards with my own deck. I'm starting to think that I'm soon about to hit what is comparable with finishing the Core 6K Deck. Understanding things got a lot more easy, though I am not done yet. I keep revisiting this Video for motivational purposes (I think this is the 3rd or 4th time I'm watching it)
I liked the video before even watching the whole thing. I just know it's gonna be good. PS - I dropped learning Japanese due to school work, but you inspired me to pick it up again. Thank you so much.
Watching your videos makes me motivated to learning new languages and it gives good tips and facts to learning a new language looking forward to watching more of your content :)
Your videos are so polished, I'm a little jealous. I myself am also planning to go heavy with the immersion during uni holidays and make a video about it. Though I should also learn video editing. Maybe next holidays.
i started learning japanese a while ago and i am going to start using the core 2k/6k deck for vocabulary, and i want to say that your videos are extremely helpful and entertaining, they helped me a lot to know better what to do, and they are very cool to watch and well made i am very interested and excited to see how you are gonna do on the next test for japanese proficiency too
This was such a great video and overall series. To be honest, you've motivated me to learn some Japanese, and it helps a lot of media I consume is Japanese anyway. Although, I still gotta teach myself code first lol
Nice job! You're going to see a huge jump if you keep up 5 hours of study for the summer. I never managed to keep a streak for that long. The best I did was study 5+ hours for a month, and that propelled me from a proficient level to an advanced one.
@@Livakivi currently doing 3-8 hours a day but for Spanish and would recommend that you do different stuff in the day. Btw for the listening month audio cards are Elite and underrated and help a lot. Btw don’t make the mistake of just watching without subtitles and never going back cause that’s inefficient.
The 5 hours minimum thing is going to work out amazingly well if you can keep up that level of intensity. Your Japanese will probably get noticeably better about every 2 weeks or so.
It's just beginning to sink in how much time I'll have to put in in order to learn Norwegian and Spanish plus to improve my French and German but it's good to hear a resource like Anki exists. Learning vocabulary has always been my favourite part of the language learning process and I trust that the grammar will follow through immersion as it did with English. I wonder where I'll be at a few years from now.
Yep, I can relate to this video. Anki is great, but never a substitute of real self-immersion. I've discovered that I improve the most when I consume a lot of content at the same time that I also do Anki.
Call me crazy but... my deck has like 40k+ Japanese vocabulary that I made by myself and I'm still plowing through them every single day. I don't get why people quit using anki I mean I literally was able to learn thousands of useless vocabulary within a few months. And those "useless" vocabulary or expressions still sometimes make their way into random novels and games.
@@okstcowboy14 Ok, that makes sense. For me, Anki is still an amazing supplement for a quick refresh. I'm now using it to learn German as well. Always recommending it amongst friends.
as a chinese person who learned to speak english, I personally experienced how playing video games, watching TV shows, and consuming media in general helped so much more than looking at flash cards and trying to memorize. While the Anki 2k/6k deck might give me a strong foothold into learning japanese, ultimately I feel my time is better used later on watching japanese news, reading articles, and just experiencing the language.
@@warcrimes390you kind of need to have the baseline that the 2k/6k deck provides first though, right? You can’t exactly read if you don’t know any words or understand the language yet
As someone who has used WaniKani for about two years at this point, I will say this: The resource is fantastic for those who prefer the SRS style of learning, and for those who are intent on learning Kanji very quickly. That being said, this is really just a Kanji resource, you can and will learn a lot of vocabulary, but grammar is non-existent so do not expect an all-encompassing resource. WaniKani is very open about that fact and on their Tofugu website, you can actually find more resources for learning Japanese. (this is not sponsored I promise). They use a level system and each level typically includes 10-20 radicals, 15-30 Kanji in the higher levels, and a wide range of vocab. It feels fun because when you beat a level, it really feels like you've accomplished something.
Great job on the progress mate! Now a quick tip from me, don't you dare on deleting a deck just because you have finished it! You better keep up the deck and keep reviewing it every single day now don't worry the time between reviews will get very long after a while and you won't have to review as often but it will make sure that you won't forget what you have studied and also keep you surrounded within the language.
Thank you so much for inspiring me to study again, after I stopped living in Japan I kinda got lazy in studying kanji. However, I’ve been on the strict grind for 3 months now and I try to not miss a single day so that my Anki don’t stack up haha
I've just finished learning how to read and right hiragana and I'm now reading manga to better and more fluently recognize the hiragana. Also working on recognizing and writing katakana. In terms of Kanji, I'm going to focus on the n5 level kanji and I'm not going to spend the time for how to write them. Just recognizing for now. not sure when I should start with vocabulary and grammar of when I should start the 2k/6k core deck.
I study with WaniKani - can recommend it - it's as motivating as "homework" will ever get I suspect. I like the structured approach to it - I don't have to plan my learning sessions or content - I just do whatever the crabigator presents to me. I'm about to hit level 20, so only 1/3 through after a bit more than 7-8 months - so I'm behind my initial plan to get through it in a year - my new goal is to manage it in 1,5 years. I've made the "mistake" of starting nativshark on top of it a couple months into it. I was really motivated at first and things went well - but then nativshark overtook my WaniKani progress of Kanji and it took me like 2-4 hours a day with both programs combined. I've cut down on Nativshark for now - I do the daily reviews, but I stopped progressing the lessons. But the general idea to start learning grammar and reading exercuses way before I'm finished with Kanji and vocabs is definitely a good idea I think. Grammar helps with understanding of things you may already be able to read and hear. Building reading speed and comprehension is tedious and will probably take me many months - so starting in parallel to vocabs is a must I feel - otherwise the whole learning the language process will just be too long.
I love your learning journey. You have actually inspired me a lot on studying japanese. I'm currently studying vocab with another 2K Core word deck (just about past 1/5 of the way in at 35 cards/day, will do 2K/6K eventually), and studying grammar through my japanesepod101 subscription and Japanese Ammo's YT videos. But just recently I also started to watch anime without subtitles and I'm surprised how much I understand now with only four months or serious studying vs the first time I tried doing so. I mosly watch slice of life so that also makes it easier to get into. It would be interesting if you made a video about learning through immersion now that you have finally taken the step. Cheers man!
I loved that deck and I think I even did the 10k version. I don’t know if I finished it but it was really helpful. I was just chatting with some people in Japanese online and feel like doing the more difficult words in that deck would be a good review. You might want to try the 10k version if you like this method of studying.
I've used wanikani for 6 months with an aggressive pace of 2-3h sessions, for max leveling up speed. I got burnt out at the 6 month mark due to the fact that I neglected grammar: ~233h spent yet I couldn't pick up anything through immersion. I've taken a break from wanikani since, and started using a similar platform for grammar (bunpro) for the time being. I feel like I'm making more gains this way, although the ideal solution would've been to use both platforms in tandem.
I recently hit the 300 days streak in anki as well, way to go but I'm motivated and immersion really is fun currently. Looking forward to being able to read real books in japanese 💪🏻
Why not focus primarily on immersion for the start, and learn words through context? Simply add words encountered through immersion to your deck... Now you've both learned a new word and how it's used. Learning through immersion will make you learn words that are related to what you choose to immerse in. Words pre-made in a deck; are words you might never encounter in what you choose to immerse in.
My previous video actually went into this a bit. The complete answer to this question is pretty long, but essentially, I didn't feel like it due to low comprehension, didn't really have time for it (I mostly learned Japanese on commutes on my phone, etc), and I was fine with it.
@@Livakivi The only way to reach comprehension is to immerse in the language. "Immersion" might be too broad of a word, but it essentially always boils down to using the language as it's used by everyday people. SRS is only a way to kickstart a mental dictionary of a word. It will only teach you one out of many meanings of words, and it won't even stick most of the time before you see it in normal content anyways. At the very beginning; it's good for some people to study a few words so that immersing is easier, but studying as many words as you have done is beyond overkill. I get that everyone learns in their own way, but the problem is that you haven't really learned what you've set out to learn here. You've essentially only learned one meaning of thousands of words without knowing how they're otherwise used. I'm sorry if I came of a bit strong here, but you are hurting a lot of peoples motivation here. If you scroll down the comment section; you see that many people take this as a requirement, but this is not how many who have reached fluency studied the language. I think this video is very destructive for beginners who see it, and I think that's a bit sad.
It's overwhelming, but it's fun if you approach it the right way. Learning vocabulary like shown in this video is not the best approach in my opinion. This way you learn words in the abrtract. You won't get a full understanding of the words, but only a rough translation. The best way to learn a language is by using it; immerse yourself in the language. You'll learn words along the way, and you can add them to your own deck to boost your progress. I'm 6 months into my journey right now. Feel free to ask for more tips if you're interested.
@@however-i-disagree I play games and read manga. I find anime difficult to immerse in at this stage. It's annoying to pause the anime all the time. bilingualmanga.com/manga/manga-list Download Yomichan(google extension) if you haven't already. As for games; I mostly play Yo-Kai watch 4. I plan on playing a bunch of Japanese games further on, but I'm sticking to ones with simpler language right now. It's important to immerse yourself in what you enjoy because you're going to have to do a lot of it! Immersing is the only way you'll learn any language, and you can start with it at any point. Preparation will make it easier at the beginning, but three years of preparation is very very unnecessary! You can learn most of your vocabulary, if not all, through immersion only. I've learned all of my English vocab through immersion.
@@jesper9147 thanks for the detailed response, man! im totally hooked on that manga site now.. also... a fellow yokai watch fan in 2021???? i might as well replay the 3ds games in japanese...
@@however-i-disagree You're welcome! To play Yo-Kai watch 4 I actually hacked my switch. As for Yo-Kai Watch 3DS games; I've heard you need a 3DS from Japan, but I've tested them on an emulator, and that worked. Yo-Kai Watch games are great as they have furigana in them. Pokemon doesn't have furigana, and therefore has less kanji as young kids can't read enough of them yet. I've actually found manga to be a better resource though(reading), but it's nice to use games once in a while as it's more relaxing. If you want to do some listening immersion; I recommend using "Learn Language With Netflix"(Chrome extension) in combination with Yomichan. Yomichan can also add flashcards directly to your anki decks. If you don't want to use Netlifx; you can use MPV and download anime from Nyaa.si. ruclips.net/video/bbg6ztWecbU/видео.html Visual Novels are also really nice for immersion. People have made some really nice tools for it. learnjapanese.moe/vn/ And if you haven't heard of her yet: Here's the best grammar teacher around. You can't find someone better. Don't let her somewhat unconventional presentation scare you off. ruclips.net/video/pSvH9vH60Ig/видео.html Way better than any textbook you'll find. Her course is actually just her own book in video form(kinda)
I would be really interested to hear how good your reading/listening/speaking skills are at this point in time. To see how much learning all those words progressed your actual language comprehension.
Little tip for people starting it or not far into it, don't wait with Immersion until you finish this deck, go immerse already lol its way more useful
animelon and the likes help a bunch when you dont understand some word. good sentence mining too
Absolutely! The only reason I waited with immersion was because combined with being really busy, I didn't enjoy it as much with low comprehension. But even when I was immersion at least a little bit, it still gave lots of benefit.
That's how I learned English
This, also i'd even add don't even bother with pre made vocab decks, just make your own sentence decks.
@@ToMaSsS10 no in the beginning just do like a basic 1000 vocab deck but start mining whenever you feel like it
Finally the day has come that I've been talking about for nearly a year straight! The day I finish the Core 2k/6k deck and start focusing primarily on immersion. Hopefully you'll enjoy the video!
also I know that I completely ignored stroke order at 1:36 lol
EDIT: The summer is over and I successfully managed to learn for 5 hours every day on average! Here is the follow-up on my second channel: ruclips.net/video/krEgShwkL7E/видео.html
EDIT2: 950 days has turned to 1095+ days, so, as promised, here's the 3 years update video, where I actually speak Japanese: ruclips.net/video/JVAcg1FuyOY/видео.html
that really was a stroke order gore
Do you still repeat everything or do you never touch the core 2k/6k deck again?
@@zunv I'll still keep on reviewing the cards
@@Livakivi based and ankipilled
livaki watch the whole of one piece for immersion
Man you outdid yourself once more with that thumbnail. Congrats with finishing the deck!
If Anki has not made you question the meaning of life, you haven't used Anki for long enough.
I still need some years under my belt to detest it 😂❤
😂😂😂
Love the editing in this bro xD Congrats and have fun with the immersion ahead!
When’s the next video 🗿
@@Leahsfilms lol
Same
Instead of core 2k/6k I've found it way more useful to build my vocab through immersion and sentence mining. To each their own of course, but words just stick way better to me when I can recall a word that I want to learn that a character used in a story. The context is just way stronger to me and there's much more to tie that word to in my head because I'm engaged with the story, if that makes sense. There's also the act of "discovering" the word and looking it up yourself that's pretty valuable I find and lets it stick way more.
Excited what the summer brings you, I'm in awe of your discipline and determination!
Do you use manga for this or do you have other material you use?
@@yaniimov Well for me almost exclusively video material like anime and movies either through torrents or netflix, and also youtube videos that have Japanese subtitles with that "CC" option. Only because that's what I enjoy the most and keeps me going (I get demotivated pretty quickly). There's tools and plugins to quickly create anki cards from these video players but the one I use are the ones from Migaku. They have a youtube channel if you're interested where they explain what the features are. For me honestly it's the best money I've spent for learning japanese (only 5$ for their patreon).
I don't read manga so I can't pitch in on that but I feel like it would be hard to make flash cards out of those since you can't copy-paste from those scanned manga is my guess.
I hate flashcards. Like, those decks give me depression. I just can't do the core decks for a long time. It just... really bothers me.
I quit like 1k words in but I'm pretty good on grammar and what worked well for me is doing exactly that. Graded readers and then every sentence that I didn't get or where I was very unsure of a word (including the reading. I might know that 平和 means peace or that 大変 means difficult but if I can't read them as へいわ and たいへん then that sentence is going into the deck).
That works much better for me because when I see the sentence for the second time in the deck I already saw it a bunch. I read it once, dealt with it when I looked up the word, typed (not copied) it into anki once, typed it again to add furigana to the backside of the card and then saw it twice when the card shows up for the first time.
Graded readers are also designed to teach you stuff. They repeat a lot of words. There's this one graded reader about that american guy that built some sort of house in hiroshima after the bomb and you always have the words 家, 一緒に, 来る, 作る and phrases like 暗い顔 and 明るい顔 showing up constantly. So naturally you'll have words multiple times on those cards.
They are also fairly short so you can read them again periodically and see your progress. First time you probably copied every second sentence into anki. After a while you just... read them... like your native language.
White Rabbit has some i their iOS and Android app with audio and optional furigana.
That way you don't spend an hour on the toilet because you "just want to review your cards" and it turned into an hour of something that's only comparable to your hand in a deep fryer but you're actually using the language and slowly build up your deck which you can then use to facilitate that knowledge because you don't have the millage that you get if you're more advanced where you are just able to read a good amount of text in an acceptable amount of time and see words over and over again just because they're frequently used in the language.
@@robinkuster1127 yeah graded readers is probably the best method to acquire a language as per Dr. Krashen’s advice, but I get so bored with them sadly.. Well good for you at least!
@@alexven92 yeah, graded readers are really great for learning vocab and building reading skill in foreign language
Whoa!! This is very interesting! The day before yesterday I downloaded and configurated Anki in my laptop to learn 2k/6k Japanese. Basically, I'm going to start this! The video came just at the right moment!
Good luck in your inmersion, definitely, it is the next step and the best form to practice and improve your skills in a language!
1:36 holy shit that stroke order gave me a stroke
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Why?
@@SOHONnBecause He Wrote it incorrectly(it gave me a stroke too not gonna lie)
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Dude your editing style is so crisp. And you sound so engaging. I'm confident you could talk about anything and make it interesting.
Started the core 2k6k deck myself two weeks ago, it's so daunting and difficult, but I'm hoping after some years it'll be completed like shown here
Don't do any activity that is daunting and difficult, find another deck or start sentence mining right away. In my opinion, OP suggests very ineffective technique.
@リュークの母 This, I tried Core2k, after 1000 words it became such a colossal activity, it's not good.
Try something simple and transition to native media and mine words
We learn language by using it, not by studying it. Start reading something that looks fun to you. You'll pick up words along the way. Learning words through a deck won't give you an understanding of how the word is used, only a rough translation. Make your own deck and add words you encounter to it.
@@jesper9147 The difficulty in that is if I don't know grammar, sentence structure and more than basic vocabulary, I won't understand anything in the stuff I'm reading full stop, so it's usefulness would be diminished surely?
@@Maddogs1 Not at all. You didn't study grammar before learning your native language. Grammar should be learned outside of immersion in addition, since that will boost your understanding, but words should be learned through contex. Continue reading and you'll notice patterns in the language. You'll start understanding things, especially with some outside help with grammar.
This is what I'm experiencing right now at least. It makes sense doesn't it? I'm playing a shit ton of Yo-Kai Watch 4, and it's working.
ruclips.net/video/pSvH9vH60Ig/видео.html
I recommend this!
I just started the all in one kanji deck like a few weeks ago. This video really motivates me to see that people actually go through this PAINFULLY slow process of learning the words by repetition. The good part comes when you start understanding more of what you read/listen in japanese bit by bit. Good luck inmersing yourself in the language! As I learned when I started learning english, that's the most enjoyable part of adquiring a new language.
english or japanese which one is easier
@@waynicliz english by a long shot, specially if your native language is a romantic one (They use A to Z just like english, so you save yourself the hassle of learning new letters).
After hearing that you‘ll start practicing for 5 hours a day after a thousand days of learning I am honestly reevaluating whether I should even continue trying to learn this crazy language that is Japanese
I've had the same thought. i just tell myself "What if I started 5 years ago? What could I say and understand now?" And so, I began that "5 year" journey last year in April (timescale is kinda irrelevant, since language should be a lifelong thing just like English/ native language).
@@JJ-jt7mx depends on how hard a language is. English, for example, is known by the majority of people in the world because it's fairly easy to learn and you find it anywhere nowadays, both irl and on the internet. It's not really a lifetime goal. I'd say I'm fluent and I haven't even ever studied it (I'm 17).
Don't get discouraged, you really don't have to be this extreme about it. I know people that can speak and understand Japanese well without ever touching anki. I'm also getting there, just by consuming media. Just immerse and do a little bit every day, you'll get there.
Don't give up! This approach to learning a language is very extreme and unnecesarry. Ask yourself how you learned new words in your native language, or if you're not a native english person, how did you learn english words. Is it by using the lanugage, and learning new words by encountering them while reading or listening. If you try to learn words out of context, like shown in this video, you won't get a complete understanding of the word.
A word is like a person; you have to get to know them, you have to meet them many times in different situations. Start reading something that interest you! Have fun while learning! There is no point in suffering through something like this!
I'd think long and hard if you actually want to learn Japanese.
There are languages that are easier. Like, a lot of the difficulty comes from the writing system. Korean is similar to Japanese but without the crazy writing. That might be a better fit. If you just want to learn a language than there are a lot of languages that are more useful and less stressful (I learnt Spanish to a point where I don't need to rely on textbooks just because I needed a break from Japanese).
But it's also important to have something to keep the language alive. Like, the Japanese learning community shits a lot on anime and video games but lets be honest if you like those things and can't afford to travel to Japan a lot than that is a very good way to keep your Japanese alive. And the language is totally worth learning then.
If somebody asked me if they should learn Japanese, I'd more often than not say that they shouldn't. But if you are interested and see the use for it and then wonder if you made the right call, the answer is most likely yes.
Also, don't forget that everybody learns differently. The only thing fluent Japanese as a second language speaker have in common is that they use the language a lot. They read a lot, watch Japanese media, live in Japan, whatever. Not all of then went through Remember the Kanji. Not all of them went through a Core X000 Anki deck. Not all of them even used a text book. As long as you can find a way to use the language regularly even early on and have fun with it, you can learn it. It's not difficult. Just time consuming. If you can keep it up you'll learn.
You find 5 years old post on reddit talking about how anki decks are the best thing ever for learning Japanese and their flair has been "beginner" for 5 years. You also find people that say "I don't really like the core decks I do something else" and a year later they post really detailed grammar explanations.
You have to find your way.
Love the runescape clips :) just started using anki about a month ago and I wish I knew the language more when I lived there. Super excited to getting more proficient with a combo of that and writing characters. Thanks for the vids!
Got recommended to me, you will get deserved recognition soon enough
Well done, can't wait to see your immersion updates.
bro your editing skills are fire, you always motivate me to learn so more japanese each day
3 years of learning to say that you can "start"?
You are quite the opposite of Connor 😂
Congrats man, takes a lot of discipline to actually finish that deck, I'm definitely not close to it.
Good luck buddy, you're at the best stage of learning in my opinion
It'll be really fun immersing just find what you like
Thanks!! That's exactly what I'm hoping for as well, the hard part is over, and now's the time to have fun and explore whilst learning at the same time!
youre such a underrated channel, love your stuff
You’re videos are what keeps me going in studying Korean, greetings from America 🇺🇸🤠
It will be fun to see how much you progress this summer. Hope you get to enjoy the sun as well 😎🌞
Congratz!! Good luck and have fun with immersion, and the many stages to come!
I want to thank you for putting out these video's, 2 weeks ago I started learning the core 2k/6k deck with anki. And l like it a lot but can still be super tough. So your video's help me a lot staying motivated and keep me from slacking
I just discovered your channel and I'm so excited to watch your progress man. I hope it's fun after all your preparation!
don’t recommend spending 3 years on first stage but what ever works for you works for you keep up that grind man nice video👍
I’ve been watching your channel for 3 months now and I always get super motivated when I watch your videos, but unfortunately school doesn’t give me enough time to study
Not gonna lie, i just love ur editing style. Always puts a smile to my face. Especially liked that one doge hesitantly saying kon-ban-wa? To the salary man doge. Low-key comedy gold 👌keep it up man
I'm excited to see how you'll progress, good luck and don't forget to keep it fun!
This is your first video I've seen. Congratulations! That is a massive accomplishment.
Congratulations man! Can’t wait to see your progress moving forward!
I'm loving the production quality of these videos, they look really really good!
You are now my new favourite channel. This really motivates me to learn Japanese consistently! I will definitely follow your Twitch 😁
1:50 immersion
2:04 Only use Again & Good Anki buttons and not the Hard button. Use Easy for quickly rebuilding a missed card.
4:13 reading, listening, conversation
4:29 1 day of learning chart
Currently studying a Bachelor of IT in University and I've been set on picking up a language [was torn between Mandarin or Japanese] and I decided last week to start Japanese.
Going to take a Japanese minor for my degree [roughly six units, 13 weeks each]
Starting with 30 minutes daily of Duolingo [for basics and practise]
1-2 Japanese lessons on Pimsleur daily [with a goal to finish all the way till Japanese level 5]
Started Duolingo tonight and Pimsleur a few days ago [on lesson 6 now] and once I've got the basics down will start the 2k/6k Anki deck as well.
Wish me luck lmao
Good luck!! He has mentioned it a bunch, but Matt Vs Japan is a super resource. Kinda a controversial guy, but I have been following him for around a year and its amazing. He has a website Refold.ia which was referenced in this video. Best wishes to you and your journey... It’s a long one.
@@cdw116 He’s not that controversial, he just used to be “edgy.”
@@Reforming_LL “allegedly” lol. I love the guy and his brand, I just know there have been an individual or two who have collaborated with him and took the time to make a few videos about their experiences…. I’m pro Refold, and the edginess lol, I just think that could constitute controversy.
日本語で失礼、
日本のワクチン応募websiteのerrorが多発したり、そもそもワクチンが遅れたり、日本政府も企業もすごくIT導入、開発遅れているからぜひ改善してほしい、です、頼むー🙏
日本語の勉強頑張ってね！
英語勉強した日本人より。
How is it going now?
Good luck on your immersion and congratulation on the complete deck! Also thanks for the insights and tipps. I just started using a variation of 2k/6k a week ago and i am really enjoying it so far. I'm still on the default 20 new cards per day but i guess this will soon change when i get more and more old cards. I already edited a few cards to add translations for english words i don't know well. Thanks for the inspiration and the ressources!
Amazing stuff. Thanks for sharing your experience.
great video! I'm currently halfway through Tango N5 because I hated Core 2K/6K when I was first getting into Japanese. But your vids always really get me excited! Most of the Japanese learning channels are of those always fluent so it feels nice to watch someone who's on the journey with us.
Congrats for the milestone!! I began learning with Anki in January of this year but stopped for almost two months now, for many personal reasons. But I'm excited to restart my learning!
おめでとう！！This entire series hits so close to home
I love your videos, I started 2k/6k 14 days ago and I'm hoping that I will success it. Your are such a big source of motivation for me Arigatou !
I've made a terrible mistake when I didn't pick up a pre-existing deck and tried to create my own. In the beginning I actually checked a pre-existing deck out but I knew too many words already and got scared to burn out on Anki if I had to basically start from 0 again. But hey, no reason to give up. If anything your content has been extremely motivating in making me push harder.
Edit: Currently at 4700 cards with my own deck. I'm starting to think that I'm soon about to hit what is comparable with finishing the Core 6K Deck. Understanding things got a lot more easy, though I am not done yet. I keep revisiting this Video for motivational purposes (I think this is the 3rd or 4th time I'm watching it)
Does anyone else find that have to SLOW DOWN Livakivi's videos so that they can see all the little jokes written on the screen? 😃
Its actually valuable to know since I think sometimes my videos pace a bit faster than they should!
I liked the video before even watching the whole thing.
I just know it's gonna be good.
PS - I dropped learning Japanese due to school work, but you inspired me to pick it up again. Thank you so much.
Watching your videos makes me motivated to learning new languages and it gives good tips and facts to learning a new language looking forward to watching more of your content :)
Your videos are so polished, I'm a little jealous. I myself am also planning to go heavy with the immersion during uni holidays and make a video about it. Though I should also learn video editing. Maybe next holidays.
Excited to see your progress!
This videos are so motivating, I'd love to see more uploads or streams of you learning Japanese
Love your videos man, keep it up!
This channel is so damn underrated
the dedication
gg my dude
i started learning japanese a while ago and i am going to start using the core 2k/6k deck for vocabulary, and i want to say that your videos are extremely helpful and entertaining, they helped me a lot to know better what to do, and they are very cool to watch and well made
i am very interested and excited to see how you are gonna do on the next test for japanese proficiency too
Rooting for you man, also love the editing 💯
BEST youtube channel
This was such a great video and overall series. To be honest, you've motivated me to learn some Japanese, and it helps a lot of media I consume is Japanese anyway. Although, I still gotta teach myself code first lol
Great job on finishing that huge deck man! Keep up the great work, now is the time to strike!!!!
Nice job! You're going to see a huge jump if you keep up 5 hours of study for the summer. I never managed to keep a streak for that long. The best I did was study 5+ hours for a month, and that propelled me from a proficient level to an advanced one.
That's still quite a good streak! And yeah, I'm really exited to see what progress I'll make!
@@Livakivi currently doing 3-8 hours a day but for Spanish and would recommend that you do different stuff in the day. Btw for the listening month audio cards are Elite and underrated and help a lot. Btw don’t make the mistake of just watching without subtitles and never going back cause that’s inefficient.
omg the runecrafting at 0:25 X,D so accurate
The 5 hours minimum thing is going to work out amazingly well if you can keep up that level of intensity. Your Japanese will probably get noticeably better about every 2 weeks or so.
It's just beginning to sink in how much time I'll have to put in in order to learn Norwegian and Spanish plus to improve my French and German but it's good to hear a resource like Anki exists. Learning vocabulary has always been my favourite part of the language learning process and I trust that the grammar will follow through immersion as it did with English. I wonder where I'll be at a few years from now.
Yep, I can relate to this video. Anki is great, but never a substitute of real self-immersion. I've discovered that I improve the most when I consume a lot of content at the same time that I also do Anki.
congrats on finishing it 😊💝
Your videos are so motivating! It's Time for me to go back and grind cards on Anki.
Call me crazy but... my deck has like 40k+ Japanese vocabulary that I made by myself and I'm still plowing through them every single day. I don't get why people quit using anki I mean I literally was able to learn thousands of useless vocabulary within a few months. And those "useless" vocabulary or expressions still sometimes make their way into random novels and games.
At some point people decide new information should just be learned through input instead of anki.
@@okstcowboy14 Ok, that makes sense. For me, Anki is still an amazing supplement for a quick refresh. I'm now using it to learn German as well. Always recommending it amongst friends.
as a chinese person who learned to speak english, I personally experienced how playing video games, watching TV shows, and consuming media in general helped so much more than looking at flash cards and trying to memorize. While the Anki 2k/6k deck might give me a strong foothold into learning japanese, ultimately I feel my time is better used later on watching japanese news, reading articles, and just experiencing the language.
@@warcrimes390you kind of need to have the baseline that the 2k/6k deck provides first though, right? You can’t exactly read if you don’t know any words or understand the language yet
Oh my gosh well done, I can't wait to see the month of japanese!
As someone who has used WaniKani for about two years at this point, I will say this: The resource is fantastic for those who prefer the SRS style of learning, and for those who are intent on learning Kanji very quickly. That being said, this is really just a Kanji resource, you can and will learn a lot of vocabulary, but grammar is non-existent so do not expect an all-encompassing resource. WaniKani is very open about that fact and on their Tofugu website, you can actually find more resources for learning Japanese. (this is not sponsored I promise). They use a level system and each level typically includes 10-20 radicals, 15-30 Kanji in the higher levels, and a wide range of vocab. It feels fun because when you beat a level, it really feels like you've accomplished something.
came for the video about anki showing up in my recommended, subscribed for the runescape transitions.
Great work man! Keep it up!!
Great job on the progress mate! Now a quick tip from me, don't you dare on deleting a deck just because you have finished it! You better keep up the deck and keep reviewing it every single day now don't worry the time between reviews will get very long after a while and you won't have to review as often but it will make sure that you won't forget what you have studied and also keep you surrounded within the language.
Of course! I won't delete the deck probably for a very long time!
seeing these type of videos make me wanna learn more and more
Thank you so much for inspiring me to study again, after I stopped living in Japan I kinda got lazy in studying kanji. However, I’ve been on the strict grind for 3 months now and I try to not miss a single day so that my Anki don’t stack up haha
I've just finished learning how to read and right hiragana and I'm now reading manga to better and more fluently recognize the hiragana. Also working on recognizing and writing katakana. In terms of Kanji, I'm going to focus on the n5 level kanji and I'm not going to spend the time for how to write them. Just recognizing for now. not sure when I should start with vocabulary and grammar of when I should start the 2k/6k core deck.
what websites did you use
and what are you using to read manga
@@waynicliz I learned kanna using an app called kanji study. I use anki for vocabulary an for manga, I found it on the internet 😉
I study with WaniKani - can recommend it - it's as motivating as "homework" will ever get I suspect. I like the structured approach to it - I don't have to plan my learning sessions or content - I just do whatever the crabigator presents to me. I'm about to hit level 20, so only 1/3 through after a bit more than 7-8 months - so I'm behind my initial plan to get through it in a year - my new goal is to manage it in 1,5 years.
I've made the "mistake" of starting nativshark on top of it a couple months into it. I was really motivated at first and things went well - but then nativshark overtook my WaniKani progress of Kanji and it took me like 2-4 hours a day with both programs combined. I've cut down on Nativshark for now - I do the daily reviews, but I stopped progressing the lessons.
But the general idea to start learning grammar and reading exercuses way before I'm finished with Kanji and vocabs is definitely a good idea I think.
Grammar helps with understanding of things you may already be able to read and hear. Building reading speed and comprehension is tedious and will probably take me many months - so starting in parallel to vocabs is a must I feel - otherwise the whole learning the language process will just be too long.
oh my god man... good luck in your journey
Yoooooo big hype and grats bro!!
As someone who recently started you are motivational. Thank you!
good luck on your summer studying! trying to do french as well!
Congrats dude 👏👏 your such an inspiration as a beginner who just started a few months ago :D good luck on your journey 🤺
He made the kanji for water in wrong stroke order 😭😭
Congratulations!
I’m so hyped for your summer.
I love your learning journey. You have actually inspired me a lot on studying japanese. I'm currently studying vocab with another 2K Core word deck (just about past 1/5 of the way in at 35 cards/day, will do 2K/6K eventually), and studying grammar through my japanesepod101 subscription and Japanese Ammo's YT videos. But just recently I also started to watch anime without subtitles and I'm surprised how much I understand now with only four months or serious studying vs the first time I tried doing so. I mosly watch slice of life so that also makes it easier to get into. It would be interesting if you made a video about learning through immersion now that you have finally taken the step. Cheers man!
Pidgey needs HUGS
@@Margen67 yeeah
Your videos are so good!!!!!! Thank you so much
1 year in now, 3000 words from core 2k/6k deck
I loved that deck and I think I even did the 10k version. I don’t know if I finished it but it was really helpful. I was just chatting with some people in Japanese online and feel like doing the more difficult words in that deck would be a good review. You might want to try the 10k version if you like this method of studying.
I've used wanikani for 6 months with an aggressive pace of 2-3h sessions, for max leveling up speed. I got burnt out at the 6 month mark due to the fact that I neglected grammar: ~233h spent yet I couldn't pick up anything through immersion.
I've taken a break from wanikani since, and started using a similar platform for grammar (bunpro) for the time being. I feel like I'm making more gains this way, although the ideal solution would've been to use both platforms in tandem.
180 episodes of Yugioh?
Those are rookie numbers
These past three months alone I've seen 800+ episodes of cased
Ok
I recently hit the 300 days streak in anki as well, way to go but I'm motivated and immersion really is fun currently.
Looking forward to being able to read real books in japanese 💪🏻
You are a legend man
Just discovered your channel bro, I'm excited with your progress ! New sub here 😁
i Know ur going crazy on ur Japanese rn bro good shit keep going
Hi Livakivi great video as always i just wanted to ask if you could make a video specifically to your deck how you made it and what you changed.
Hey, I downloaded the deck from here: djtguide.neocities.org/anki.html
And didn't make any changes, edits nor deletions to it
Ok thanks dude
congrats bro!!!
That YuGiOh preview soundtrack got me off guard, haha. I'm on episode 184, what a coincidence!
Why not focus primarily on immersion for the start, and learn words through context? Simply add words encountered through immersion to your deck... Now you've both learned a new word and how it's used. Learning through immersion will make you learn words that are related to what you choose to immerse in. Words pre-made in a deck; are words you might never encounter in what you choose to immerse in.
My previous video actually went into this a bit. The complete answer to this question is pretty long, but essentially, I didn't feel like it due to low comprehension, didn't really have time for it (I mostly learned Japanese on commutes on my phone, etc), and I was fine with it.
@@Livakivi The only way to reach comprehension is to immerse in the language. "Immersion" might be too broad of a word, but it essentially always boils down to using the language as it's used by everyday people.
SRS is only a way to kickstart a mental dictionary of a word. It will only teach you one out of many meanings of words, and it won't even stick most of the time before you see it in normal content anyways.
At the very beginning; it's good for some people to study a few words so that immersing is easier, but studying as many words as you have done is beyond overkill.
I get that everyone learns in their own way, but the problem is that you haven't really learned what you've set out to learn here. You've essentially only learned one meaning of thousands of words without knowing how they're otherwise used.
I'm sorry if I came of a bit strong here, but you are hurting a lot of peoples motivation here. If you scroll down the comment section; you see that many people take this as a requirement, but this is not how many who have reached fluency studied the language. I think this video is very destructive for beginners who see it, and I think that's a bit sad.
love how you edit an educational video in the style of a gaming video haha
congratulations
I am starting to learn Japanese seriously as a 3rd language .... I can't wait to start... but damn it feels overwhelming.
It's overwhelming, but it's fun if you approach it the right way. Learning vocabulary like shown in this video is not the best approach in my opinion. This way you learn words in the abrtract. You won't get a full understanding of the words, but only a rough translation. The best way to learn a language is by using it; immerse yourself in the language. You'll learn words along the way, and you can add them to your own deck to boost your progress. I'm 6 months into my journey right now. Feel free to ask for more tips if you're interested.
@@jesper9147 can i ask what sources are you using to immerse yourself?
@@however-i-disagree I play games and read manga. I find anime difficult to immerse in at this stage. It's annoying to pause the anime all the time.
bilingualmanga.com/manga/manga-list
Download Yomichan(google extension) if you haven't already.
As for games; I mostly play Yo-Kai watch 4. I plan on playing a bunch of Japanese games further on, but I'm sticking to ones with simpler language right now.
It's important to immerse yourself in what you enjoy because you're going to have to do a lot of it! Immersing is the only way you'll learn any language, and you can start with it at any point. Preparation will make it easier at the beginning, but three years of preparation is very very unnecessary! You can learn most of your vocabulary, if not all, through immersion only. I've learned all of my English vocab through immersion.
@@jesper9147 thanks for the detailed response, man! im totally hooked on that manga site now.. also... a fellow yokai watch fan in 2021???? i might as well replay the 3ds games in japanese...
@@however-i-disagree You're welcome!
To play Yo-Kai watch 4 I actually hacked my switch. As for Yo-Kai Watch 3DS games; I've heard you need a 3DS from Japan, but I've tested them on an emulator, and that worked.
Yo-Kai Watch games are great as they have furigana in them. Pokemon doesn't have furigana, and therefore has less kanji as young kids can't read enough of them yet.
I've actually found manga to be a better resource though(reading), but it's nice to use games once in a while as it's more relaxing.
If you want to do some listening immersion; I recommend using "Learn Language With Netflix"(Chrome extension) in combination with Yomichan. Yomichan can also add flashcards directly to your anki decks.
If you don't want to use Netlifx; you can use MPV and download anime from Nyaa.si.
ruclips.net/video/bbg6ztWecbU/видео.html
Visual Novels are also really nice for immersion. People have made some really nice tools for it.
learnjapanese.moe/vn/
And if you haven't heard of her yet: Here's the best grammar teacher around. You can't find someone better. Don't let her somewhat unconventional presentation scare you off.
ruclips.net/video/pSvH9vH60Ig/видео.html
Way better than any textbook you'll find. Her course is actually just her own book in video form(kinda)
Man, you are my hero!
I would be really interested to hear how good your reading/listening/speaking skills are at this point in time. To see how much learning all those words progressed your actual language comprehension.
I'll make a video demonstrating those probably after the summer
love your videos. keep up the good work. i would suggest make more videos