L. V. Beethoven: Sonata nº 17 «Tempest», Op. 31 nº 2 (1802)

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  • @alijoyce2169
    @alijoyce2169 4 года назад +154

    Beethoven is the coolest uncle ever.

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383 4 года назад +26

      I don't know about that. Beethoven's nephew tried to kill himself because of him.

    • @jessicathekitten9615
      @jessicathekitten9615 4 года назад +12

      Way to ruin the mood dude

    • @SilviaVillarespe
      @SilviaVillarespe 4 года назад +7

      @@calebhu6383 too many movies

    • @alphao3012
      @alphao3012 3 года назад +1

      @@calebhu6383 ......

    • @lucasramos253
      @lucasramos253 3 года назад +26

      @@SilviaVillarespe actually, beethoven's nephew (Karl) tried to suicide because of him. I don't know if you know but, when beethoven's brother (and Karl's father) died, Beethoven made him write a testament saying that beethoven would be Karl's father when he passed away.
      Beethoven then, saying that Karl's mother was immoral and a bad mother, opened a lawsuit trying to take custody of Karl. And Beethoven took him away from his mother for MANY years.
      Beethoven said that his mother was "poisonous" and "immoral" for Karl, his nephew. And he forced the boy to learn piano and music, even though Karl didn't even have the talent for it.
      Several times Karl tried to flee, but ended up returning by force from the authorities.
      After suffering so much about it, Karl bought two guns. One he tried to shoot, but he didn't have success, and the second gun almost killed him, but he was found by a carter, and he said that wanted to see your mother.
      Beethoven was not the best father, he tried to be. But, infact, due to his turbulent childhood with his own father (alcoholic and abusive), he also got mental problems. :(

  • @caducarvalho9544
    @caducarvalho9544 Год назад +17

    The 0.1 second he takes before hitting that D at 0:52 is just so perfect. It sounds like a real thunder, like a giant rock crashing into the sea.

  • @phamnguyenductin
    @phamnguyenductin 3 года назад +31

    I love Arrau's 3rd movement. For me this is the right tempo - after all it's marked allegretto, but some pianists seem to interpret it as allegro.

    • @jmbechtel
      @jmbechtel 3 дня назад

      This is my first time hearing such a tempo... it is so much better than the "hurried" interpretations that I have heard.

  • @sandraborbollaescobar9821
    @sandraborbollaescobar9821 3 года назад +37

    Beethoven was deaf. But his mind housed all the sounds of this earth. His hands was magic and his music the most beautiful, furious, sad, amazing, and lovely that i can heard.

    • @df63vu3f73k
      @df63vu3f73k 2 года назад +12

      He was deaf at the end of his life not when he wrote this

  • @elizabethlau644
    @elizabethlau644 3 года назад +9

    My favorite 3rd movement....................Allegretto..............................Love it !!!

  • @jonasmusic156
    @jonasmusic156 4 года назад +24

    The melody in the third movement is wonderful. I've heard from somewhere that Beethoven wasn't a good MELODY WRITER. Now I know that he was.

    • @lefinlay
      @lefinlay 3 года назад +7

      Nobody, in all of human history, has ever said that Beethoven isn’t a good melody writer. I’m glad you think he is though 😅

    • @lucasramos253
      @lucasramos253 3 года назад +6

      It is not that Beethoven was bad at writing melodies. It turns out that beethoven had difficulties in writing melodies, compared to Mozart. Beethoven even wondered if he was as good as they said.

    • @alexistrevino9349
      @alexistrevino9349 3 года назад +7

      @@lucasramos253 Indeed. A music teacher of mine once told me that it often took Beethoven quite some time to compose a single piece, whereas Mozart would churn out a piece in one sitting, sometimes even improvising it. Nonetheless, though apparently seeming as inefficient, Beethoven’s painstaking approach to composition produced a great deal of masterfully crafted works.

    • @kellyng2548
      @kellyng2548 3 года назад

      how is he deaf but still so amazinggg, I mean, I can’t even compose something presentable 🤯

    • @sfbirdclub
      @sfbirdclub 2 года назад +3

      @@lefinlay Unfortunately Bernstein did indeed say that. But it was just his way of speaking. The context is everything with Lenny's off the cuff remarks. Beethoven could write tunes: Good Lord yes.

  • @sue70950
    @sue70950 5 лет назад +108

    0:01
    8:40
    19:03

  • @MARIAHELENA606
    @MARIAHELENA606 3 месяца назад +1

    Stupendo. Lo spartito utilissimo per cogliere tutte le sfumature di questo capolavoro.

  • @Olga6328
    @Olga6328 3 года назад +21

    00:02 І ч. ГП d
    00:53 І ч. СП
    01:17 І ч. ПП а
    08:41 ІІ ч. ГП В
    11:36 ІІ ч. ПП F
    19:05 ІІІ ч. ГП d
    19:44 ІІІ ч. ПП a

  • @truBador2
    @truBador2 7 лет назад +10

    This is good. Of course it is. It's Arau, whose lineage goes back to Beethoven himself! I appreciate the way he brings out all the inner lines, which makes the playing tasteful and justifies his tempos perfectly. A good contrast with Arau's take on Op. 31 no2 is Glenn Gould playing the same piece. His tempestuous tempos are another perfectly justified interpretation (not so much though his choice to omit the repeats!). If Gould sounds a little rushed in his live performance, it is not so much because of his tempo as it is his glossing over details like the inner voices, which Arau has so clearly given careful consideration to. Arau on Sunday, Gould on Tuesday...

  • @howardchasnoff208
    @howardchasnoff208 3 года назад +2

    4:18 end of exposition beginning of development 5:55 beginning of recap. thematic material interspersed with recits
    All back in d minor. secondary theme in expo was in a minor which is the dominant key.

  • @Bulacanos
    @Bulacanos 6 лет назад +50

    11:35 meet the Flintstones

  • @manukvardanyan94
    @manukvardanyan94 3 года назад +4

    26:18 .. a great sense of ACCENT and PAUSE ... it's over, everything is decided.. the sword does his job !

  • @manu_zeta
    @manu_zeta 3 года назад +2

    Ogni volta è più bella!

  • @FirstGentleman1
    @FirstGentleman1 8 лет назад +7

    15:43 is angelic.

    • @rembo96
      @rembo96 7 лет назад +1

      22:03

    • @antonioanker2958
      @antonioanker2958 7 лет назад +1

      19:04

    • @hase2716
      @hase2716 7 лет назад

      26:36 ahah

    • @aoznes
      @aoznes 3 года назад +1

      thank you for sharing,loved it!

    • @Xlappahony
      @Xlappahony 2 месяца назад

      It's a traditional tune from Bedrock, USA.

  • @giuliacantelli
    @giuliacantelli 2 года назад +1

    Sublime ❤💙💞🍀🙏❣

  • @devindlee
    @devindlee 2 года назад +1

    This is how our parents told us how they went to school 4:54

  • @chuanyingyu8156
    @chuanyingyu8156 Год назад +2

    Everyone's favourie mvt is the 3rd but what about the first! When hearing it you literally would turn speechless.

    • @TheGoat-zt9bd
      @TheGoat-zt9bd 5 месяцев назад +3

      It represents Beethoven who fights against his destiny and God who manifests himself with the arpeggios at the beginning of each phrase of the piece, the measures where the melody varies between bass and treble shows the dispute and the war of destiny (the bass) and Beethoven (treble)

  • @vlinaviolin
    @vlinaviolin 6 месяцев назад +1

    I часть
    Гп 1 эл +2 эл 0:01 d
    3 эл ГП/СП 00:47 соль ля СИ ля ля
    1ПП 01:16
    2ПП 01:30
    ЗП 01:45
    Разработка
    4:21 развивает 1эл гп
    II часть
    Fis dur резко d moll
    Монолог ? 05:34 ?
    Кода

  • @Дарья-с5и9р
    @Дарья-с5и9р 4 месяца назад +3

    1 часть
    0:05 - ГП
    0:53 - СП
    1:17 - ПП
    6:03 - речитатив (подход к репризе)
    2 часть
    8:41 - ГП
    11:36 - ПП
    3 часть
    19:05 - ГП

  • @kateliufan
    @kateliufan 4 года назад +2

    2악장이 최고임.. 왼손 따다다단 따다다단 따다다단 미치겠다ㅠㅠㅜㅠ

  • @campobassoester8042
    @campobassoester8042 6 лет назад +15

    19:05 😍

  • @smaragdablazaki6520
    @smaragdablazaki6520 2 года назад +1

    Τέλειο είναι

  • @kellyng2548
    @kellyng2548 3 года назад

    how is he deaf but still so amazinggg, I mean, I can’t even compose something presentable 🤯

  • @reencuentro9354
    @reencuentro9354 3 года назад +2

    12:00 sounds like a Flinstones melody

    • @beethoven_jr
      @beethoven_jr Месяц назад

      Точно подмечено. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @janjacobi127
    @janjacobi127 6 лет назад +13

    While I like Arrau, I consider his playing in the first movement too ‘dry’. Regardless whether it should be played thematically, as in an approaching to a storm, I feel he overcalculated this one as if it were a math exercise

  • @kiarashmohebbi275
    @kiarashmohebbi275 4 года назад +6

    I like Movement 3 19:3
    L V B IS A GREAT COMPOSER
    ( LUDIG VAN BEETHOVEN )

    • @dawnthenightlightfury1195
      @dawnthenightlightfury1195 4 года назад +1

      Ludwig, not ludig

    • @kiarashmohebbi275
      @kiarashmohebbi275 4 года назад

      @@dawnthenightlightfury1195
      Yes your right
      Sorry for my mistake
      I cant speak English very well Because im from Iran ( Islamic Rpublic Of Iran )

    • @uwufffsunchez2626
      @uwufffsunchez2626 4 года назад +1

      @@kiarashmohebbi275 Ludwig isn´t English

    • @kiarashmohebbi275
      @kiarashmohebbi275 4 года назад

      @@uwufffsunchez2626
      Yes i know
      He is from Germany

    • @uwufffsunchez2626
      @uwufffsunchez2626 4 года назад

      @@kiarashmohebbi275 Ich auch

  • @profemanuel.musicaenpreesc5954
    @profemanuel.musicaenpreesc5954 4 года назад +4

    BELLISIMO :D

  • @별별-p7h
    @별별-p7h 4 года назад +1

    GOOD

  • @magarac99
    @magarac99 Год назад

    Arrau is my fave pianist, but Brendl does the best Berthoven Sonatas

  • @olivierdrouin2701
    @olivierdrouin2701 3 года назад

    Ivo pogorelich fait ressortir des motifs dans le mouvement 3 ,que je n ai jamais entendu par un autre interprète...

  • @afineassgoosebump1727
    @afineassgoosebump1727 6 лет назад +7

    I might be an exception on this one but I think the 3rd movement should be played faster, around 1.25x of the original speed.
    Edit: maybe even 1.35x

    • @ДимитърАнастасов-ш3п
      @ДимитърАнастасов-ш3п 6 лет назад +1

      LordBabu no,you are not an exeption

    • @justastellarperson219
      @justastellarperson219 4 года назад +1

      Its his artistic interpretation of the piece.For others the beauty lies in speed,for him the beauty is in the tonality.

    • @phamnguyenductin
      @phamnguyenductin 3 года назад +3

      No. The tempo reads Allegretto, not Allegro.

    • @fabiomangone9789
      @fabiomangone9789 2 года назад +1

      @@phamnguyenductin that's what I was going to say, it's not necessary to play at a really fast tempo when it's not written, especially when this tempo notation is in a Beethoven's sonata, cause' he was very precise

  • @icarus7211
    @icarus7211 2 года назад

    The second movement is seriously painful to learn , my god it’s like he didn’t want anyone to play the piece.
    Either way very good piece!

  • @VikkiSvet
    @VikkiSvet Год назад

    Обажаемая❤

  • @olivierdrouin2701
    @olivierdrouin2701 3 года назад

    Il y a une répétition de l exposition pour le premier mouvement ?! Il ne me semblait pas .quelqu un peut il confirmer ?
    L interprétation manque de folie.

  • @dima.jiharev
    @dima.jiharev 7 лет назад +2

    Ludwig von Beethoven!

  • @hgwdhgwd-hd3tx
    @hgwdhgwd-hd3tx 4 года назад +2

    Usually Claudio Arrau interprets much better than this. I doubt, whether this recording is indeed played by C. Arrau!

  • @thewho4355
    @thewho4355 6 лет назад +6

    19:04

  • @vampireff7822
    @vampireff7822 4 года назад +1

    what is 42 x 13 = 312
    what is 312 ??
    is it Op. 31 nº 2

  • @Roadman3235
    @Roadman3235 Месяц назад

    flintstones?

  • @steffen5121
    @steffen5121 4 года назад +2

    When I read the notes, I must say, I'm really not a fan of extensive rubatos, that are not in the script.

  • @fredericchopin6773
    @fredericchopin6773 4 года назад +3

    💪

  • @dan4659
    @dan4659 7 месяцев назад

    8:38 2nd movement for you know who

  • @TempodiPiano
    @TempodiPiano 7 лет назад +6

    I disagree with the rallentendos in the Adagio. It breaks the tension.

  • @세인-k2x
    @세인-k2x 5 лет назад +2

    00.00❣❣

  • @고민고민하지마-e1f
    @고민고민하지마-e1f 4 года назад +1

    6:00
    6:49

  • @vittor313
    @vittor313 2 месяца назад

    Reminds Mozart's piano sonata 14

  • @Eugen_969b
    @Eugen_969b 3 года назад

    Слышно, что дедушка играет.

  • @felixbonigk9162
    @felixbonigk9162 4 года назад

    I don‘t think this is Arrau playing.

  • @Allizblu
    @Allizblu 3 года назад

    can someone please tell me a beethoven sonata that is “easier” to learn i have it for my final and i have to perform it in a really short time ,so by ur experience can u pls tell me. Im in second year at university of arts :) and i need help

    • @Allizblu
      @Allizblu 3 года назад

      by “easier” i mean less challenging cuz i dont really have enough time

    • @mpianod9319
      @mpianod9319 3 года назад

      My first Beethoven was the Pathetique Sonata. That is probably the least challenging. After Pathetique I learned Tempest.

    • @Allizblu
      @Allizblu 3 года назад

      @@mpianod9319 really? pathetique looks so challenging but im definitely gonna give it a look and try it out i thought it was way complicated

    • @pacom.8815
      @pacom.8815  3 года назад

      @@Allizblu The least challenging Beethoven's sonata I've ever played is undoubtdly nº 25 (Op. 79). Nº 27 (Op. 90) is also not very hard.

  • @stantia1731
    @stantia1731 4 года назад +2

    Ciao ho un canale di musica, letteratura, arte con lo scopo di intrattenere e spero anche di emozionare più gente possibile con le mie interpretazioni eseguite al piano di compositori come Bach, Chopin, Beethoven ecc... lettura dei miei autori preferiti e video naturalistici.

  • @jkrai9684
    @jkrai9684 6 лет назад +5

    WHY IS IT OUT OF TUNE

  • @Donovan-cd5gh
    @Donovan-cd5gh 3 года назад +1

    12:00

  • @SusanaCastagnet
    @SusanaCastagnet 24 дня назад

    Pdf

  • @ludwigvanbeethoven7192
    @ludwigvanbeethoven7192 7 лет назад +9

    This pianist has quite a few different tempos going on... It's a, "Tempest." A storm. Forte means forte, piano means piano. BANG OUT THOSE CHORDS. THEN PLAY SOFT.

    • @ludwigvanbeethoven7192
      @ludwigvanbeethoven7192 7 лет назад

      Who, Claudio Arrau? Hahaha. Sure thing, girlfriend.

    • @sergeyscoville6655
      @sergeyscoville6655 7 лет назад +1

      Ludwig Van Beethoven I have to agree with Noah Kivler, Arrau is brilliant and you would have to be world class to accurately give criticism in my opinion

    • @ric55
      @ric55 7 лет назад

      Troll alert.

    • @GreerFried
      @GreerFried 6 лет назад +2

      Sure Arrau was great, but how can you disagree with Beethoven himself? He was possibly the most genius musician of all time and certainly knows how to play his own piece.

    • @qp4135
      @qp4135 6 лет назад

      Beethoven referred to Shakespeare's play, where the actual storm plays little role. -- Arrau's discursive approach highlights many charms of this score. I like in particular his first movement: he reveals sinuosities that a more "stormy" interpretation would just ignore.

  • @olegkutsmyda4925
    @olegkutsmyda4925 3 года назад +1

    The third movement was too slow played. It should be more faster. This is why it is called the tempest sonata.
    Edit: Turn up the playback speed to 1.15. This is the normal tempo. Not to mention it is in allegretto

  • @elsa4180
    @elsa4180 Год назад

    7:15

  • @robertgift
    @robertgift 6 лет назад +3

    Tempest? No tempest here.

    • @darius.lvb.
      @darius.lvb. 2 года назад

      Beethoven never thought of the term "storm" for this sonata, the name was given by someone else most likely Schindler

  • @autosalesrevival
    @autosalesrevival 2 месяца назад

    22:28 i dont why is it hard to understand but this part which is the best in the whole piece sounds like shit when played without sustain, why dont piainist play with more meaning

  • @daesopark9372
    @daesopark9372 4 года назад

    Sibar jonna omyohane

  • @jeffreyemge5435
    @jeffreyemge5435 3 года назад

    01'30"

  • @giannicioni29
    @giannicioni29 2 года назад

    Ik

  • @lajk6165
    @lajk6165 5 лет назад

    튠 나간듯 거의 반키높게들림 악보시작부터 내가 잘못보고있나했음

  • @robbystafford8273
    @robbystafford8273 3 года назад

    this interpretation is unlistenable

    • @darius.lvb.
      @darius.lvb. 2 года назад

      Why? You're probably saying this because you're used to other interpretations that are more "brisk" than that, but in my opinion it's among the most successful interpretations of this sonata I've ever heard, especially the 3rd movement

  • @쪼앙딸기조앙
    @쪼앙딸기조앙 6 лет назад +2

    19:04

  • @elsa4180
    @elsa4180 Год назад

    6:25

  • @gosezi
    @gosezi 5 лет назад +2

    19:03

  • @공백-d1v
    @공백-d1v 3 года назад +1

    19:04

  • @유리08-t1k
    @유리08-t1k 3 года назад

    2:10

  • @colinmurphy2214
    @colinmurphy2214 5 лет назад

    8:41

  • @yannickm5237
    @yannickm5237 4 года назад

    6:12