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The siblings talk made me really want them to do an episode where they bring their siblings on. If this is possible please please do it. It would be such an amazing episode. Also, hearing Fred talk about his sibling dynamic I can defo see middle-child syndrome in him now. Always chilled 😂😂
VP another reason why it seems like slavery didn’t happen in the UK is because in the US, slavery happened on US own soil, mainly in the southern states, so the impact of slavery is in their face and a constant reminder for them. In the UK, slavery mostly happened in the Caribbean, across the ocean, so it’s not really in our face like it is in the US. That distance makes it easier for people here to ignore the impact of it.
For Ghanaians and Nigerians to say that is crazy but understandable. Africans in UK weren’t the victims of the transatlantic slave trade, Americans and Caribbeans were. “Black” is a label from the British to group phenotypic “slaves” all together. We’re not the same
@VNDRE7 to say what? There were Black people brought to Britain and other European countries - it was a smaller amount in comparison. Also, as a result of enslavement was the destruction of Africa and post colonialism which lead to alot of Africa being in Shackles now. It was not the same. We will be the same to say that. We say that though. That's not even the conversation. The issue is you lot act like NOTHING HAPPENED TO Africans that were not taken. It absolutely did. And you can't name me one book you have read on the topic to disprove that. That's the problem. If you read about it and it was a lie, fine. But you don't even check. It's not good enough. Lastly, Black was created due to eugenics, yes but English ppl and also Germans had a hand in "theories." This all started in the 1400s, before enslavement. It was used on Africans straight up. Negroid, Black etc. And characteristics were placed on the label Africans to call them lazy etc, after they went to Africa and enjoyed themselves and had great things to say. They clocked that there were things they could take, and the good things people said was swept under the rug and negroid, black and primitive took its place. Black is not solely for those taken to America. It is not.
@@VNDRE7while it’s important to highlight different countries and cultures, let’s not get side tracked by our differences and instead focus on our similarities. Maybe not the exact same, but we are all human and experiencing blackness in whatever font that comes in.
completely agree with fred’s point on the seemingly one sided beef between african americans and black british, whilst i truly appreciate charlie’s empathy and believe we should follow in those steps, i cant help but be annoyed when the responsibility falls on black british, ignorance is a lack of education - and i say we brits are pretty well versed in usa politics and culture since we get taught in schools extensively also as an aspiring actor, fred is completely right we get taught acting, as i am, on a formal level so if they are finding brits are getting casted it’s because we’re right/ trained for the role, also the one common ‘enemy’ is not each other is the coloniser and every-time we have this spat they’re laughing in their graves that they’ve managed to segregate us between continents.
1:02:51 shout out to Charlie for his take and point of view. Very often we as Africans don’t understand the privilege we have of simply knowing where you come from. As an African child I can tell you multiple times I’ve heard my own parents tell me “you aren’t like them, you know where you come from.” We don’t often acknowledge our bias in how we view African Americans and sometimes other cultures. For perspective think about this grandparents of some of the African Americans you see today lived or experienced either slavery or segregation. It really has not been that long and those scars are still there. The big point is to not put the blame on people who look like us but understand and accept that our lived experiences and points of views are vastly different. Focus on the people who causes the hurt vs trying to have struggle Olympics with each other. To speak on Fred’s point, yes slavery existed in Britain but Chattel Slavery and segregation in America was a different beast and very much so engrained into the fabric of the US.
This is so true! I always tell my best friend she is so blessed to be able to know where she is from. As a Jamaican, we are very much in the same boat as the African Americans as we do not know which country in Africa we were stolen from, all we know is the Caribbean colony we were taken to. I loved when you said "not to put the blame on people who look like us" I think back in the day like African Americans, Caribbeans felt that African people looked down on us/thought they were better than us partly based on comments like what you said your parents said "you aren't like them..." and then our internal turmoil of knowing that we actually are a lost people. Its my theory that, that played a part in why some Caribbeans would ridicule Africans back in the day - projection. Which plays right into the hands of the power structure who wanted to ensure we were separated and disunited.
Guys 😂Godfrey was born to two Nigerian parents yall! He went to a good university and is second generation Nigerian by birth FYI! He’s a walking parody
I'm a foundational black American and I've taken an ancestryDNA/23&Me test. I'm mostly Nigerian and supposedly I'm Igbo. But I also have other countries within Africa that's in my DNA as well. According to 23&Me, I also share an ancient paternal lineage with Pharaoh Ramesses III. I also have European and Indigenous American ancestry in my DNA as well. Most of us black Americans don't know where we came from because our ancestors been in America for hundreds of years. I can trace my ancestry all the way back to the 1700s in America. And , I'm sure it goes back further than that, to the 1600s. America wasn't officially a country until 1789. And, America won their independence from Britain in 1776. So long story short, a lot of us African Americans, our ancestors were here working the land long before the United States became a country. So we are African descendants and fully American at the same time (no second-class citizen despite how the majority might treat us). I love Africans. I love Africa. My best friend from childhood is Ghanian. And, I'm also not one of those ignorant African Americans when it comes to having knowledge about Africa. I can name many African countries from the top of my head without looking at a map. And I've always been interested in learning about history and different cultures.
VP’s point about slavery in the UK is a v valid one tbh. Read up on Lord Mansfield’s judgment in Somerset’s case if you’re interested as that goes into a bit of the history of slavery in the UK. It wasn’t widespread but they were defo slaves here. A lot got sent back to Africa though when slavery was abolished and a colonial settlement in Freetown, Sierra Leone was established for freed British slaves (the US equivalent for this was Liberia)
I had no idea that’s where the “a piece of cake” saying came from In all honesty, I always wondered what the full history of Black slaves in the UK was, even to this day, what I know of only goes back to Windrush Everyday’s a school day! Big up 90s Baby and Charlie Mase!
I was in a class with Charlie Mase's sister in secondary school and i remember the day we find out her name wasn't "Christina" as we thought. It was acc a whole thing at school🤣🤣🤣Such a random bit of lore i remember every time i see Charlie Mase on the podcast
There was one time that we had Jeans for Genes day and my secondary school was playing songs that had the the word jeans in it…….at lunch time they played ‘In Those Jeans’ by Genuwine, this was a predominantly white school and they DID NOT UNDERSTAND the implications of that song 🤣🤣🤣 AT ALLL
I love Charlie input and thoughts on this topic. But, I suggest ensuring that your heritage is preserved by exposing your children, grandchildren, and future generations to your culture. This includes sharing your food, traditional garments, music, shows, and especially your language. While it can be challenging to maintain these traditions after living in a country where the dominant culture, language, and food are different, making consistent efforts to provide access to these aspects of your heritage can make a lasting impact… Those were the things stolen from us during slavery. Once they were freed, they had to assimilate for their own safety and to gain even the slightest opportunity to thrive in a country that wasn’t theirs. After witnessed people who looked and sounded like them being beaten and lynched for far less. FYI there is a sector of black British people that do not have any African or Caribbean heritage connection because it too was lost hundreds of years ago. Don’t let the ignorance of a couple hundred thousand of people speak for everyone because i know more people than not that fucks heavy with the diaspora here in America
Interesting discussion on the whole slavery/education thing. What Britain have done very well is slyly romanticise their role in slavery to make people believe they weren't involved so much. They were one of the biggest players, it just didn't happen so much on British soil. Look at how many British colonies there were and think where this stemmed from. Britain were the first to "end" slavery but what they don't publicise is that to do this they paid £20m compensation to the slave owners for their "property", 40% of the national budget that year. That's one of the biggest payouts in British history and if you equate that to now then the amount would be nuts. To put it into context, that debt to slave owners in 1833 was only finally paid off in 2015. CRAZY 🤣and our taxes have contributed to those payments. This is the kind of stuff they don't educate us on, in school we only learn about white history, the majority of black history we hear is negative or struggle eg slavery, MLK, Malcolm X - why didn't they teach us about the Windrush Generation 🤷♂
1:06:21 Lancey & Skepta are being heard here more since they’re collating w American artists. & I’m ngl Gabzy was able to sellout a show in New York so 🤷🏾♀️. As for TikTok artists Stepz & NDotz are doing good too
@90sBabyShow The British mostly enslaved black people outside of the UK for example when they sent their boats out to capture black people they set up colonies in the Caribbean like Jamaica, Barbados etc. Which is why Caribbeans know we are Caribbean and not English but like the Africans Americans, we have no idea which country in Africa we originate from. So even the Windrush generation are descendants of enslaved people. So really, It is only people whose families immigrated directly from an African country - like you guys, know where their people are from.
But black people here never refer to themselves as Afro-Caribbean, if you ask them they’d always tell you what country . Afro-Caribbean is just something that is put on forms
My point exactly and I am from West Indies!! We don't question Jamaicans on where they are 'really from', we don't even question white Canadians or Americans but for some reason black Americans are seen as ignorant for not knowing.
Empathy for ignorance is kind sure, but it's not helpful for anyone when it's rooted in bigotry. Our schools, on either side of the pond, cherrypick what history to teach us to make sure we believe certain things and don't know the true extent of the transatlantic slave trade or how evil America and Europeans acted towards people of colour whilst creating their identities - we all often forget how American/British we act towards each other when we beef. To not know where you come from as an African-American is totally justified but to not know Africa is a continent I think speaks more to the American education system brainwashing them to believe their country is number 1, rather than gaps in their ancestry. I know where I come from, but know nothing of my family more than 2 generations back, that has no bearing on the fact I know Asia doesn't just mean China. Also, because the majority of chattel slavery was carried out in the US & the Caribbean for 100s of years for British slave owners, Europe mostly profited but didn't have anywhere near as many slaves living here. Once it was abolished, the UK paid "compensation" to slave owners (only finished paying 10 years ago!), "allowed" freed people to return to Africa/build in the UK & transferred wealth through colonisation (the British empire). America had a civil war to uphold slavery, that's why they have generations upon generations of Black people, whilst we have a Windrush generation & mass immigration from the Comonwealth.
The Black poor lived in London during the 18th century and the ancestors of Krios from SierraLeone. They were made up of the enslaved, runaway salves, indentured servants, and the poor. They were later sent to Sierra Leone and helped establish Freetown.
They put things in books hoping we dont read them... get the books before they are digitalised and ma ipulated even more. The battle to keep us here is spiritual as the body is just a space suit
Fred has all the elements to be a great politician. He won’t let any angle distract him from his point or message. Congratulations to VP and his wife on their first. Tems you still owe us Larry June. I’m hoping when he’s going on tour again in the UK, you can link up with him. #Numbers
What’s this obsession with black Americans “not knowing where they’re from”. Why can’t black Americans just be from America? Nobody questions when white Americans say they’re American. You have Italian Americans/Irish Americans who have been here for 2,3 generations, and when they say “I’m American” it’s not a problem. But when black Americans, who’s families have been here for 5,6 generations says they’re American it’s “you don’t know where you’re from.” Nobody questions it when a black Jamaican says they’re from Jamaica, or a black Colombian says they’re Colombian, or a black Brazilian says they’re Brazilian. Even though they’ve been in those places the same amount of time black Americans have been in America.
Even the well meaning comments saying “oh you can’t blame Americans its such a blessing/privilege to know where you’re from” These are missing the point. We DO know where we’re from. Black Americans are American. We’ve been here for 300 years and have our own history. There is a huge number of Nigerians that mass immigrated to Ghana and Ivory Coast back in the 60s. Today, their grandchildren claim “I’m Ghanaian” or “I’m Ivorian”, and it’s no problem. But Black Americans who have been here for 300 years somehow “don’t know where they’re from” lol
So why didn’t they all have Greek accents but to say everyone should have an English accent because of the time period and not the place is crazy 44:54
I typed a whole thing on hereand my phone died😩 long story short what Godfrey said was true and applies to the older generation that came and made it a point to separate themselves from AA and you have blacks outside of the US online that don’t truly know the history of AA in the US and let alone what the “1870 wall” is. As a 1st Gen kid i was lucky to grow up in the DMV but the US is huge and there are truly only pockets of diversity in this country. Everyone learns their continents but that’s the most you’re are going to hear about Africa in school. It’s not willful ignorance but also to try and argue with someone who’s family built this country about where they are “truly from” when your countries official language is English or French and money is backed by the Pound or Franc is nasty work. I understand what yall were saying but there are diaspora people wars online every day all the time and AA are the ones on the receiving end
@@saforas_I hate when that happens lolol but yeah fairs, I think we just need to learn about each other alot more because then we wouldn't be saying crazy things. It's annoying!
Chile ... the slaves went to the British colonies and not England... Jamaicans also like Americans don't know where they come from. We are less like them beside we are from a majority black country and some african culture language was able to be passed on due to slaves running away and living in the hills. ... very few slaves went to England however they had children with white ppl and the blood line is now white
Americans do not think that Africa is a country. People outside of America have created that stereotype of Americans to further separate the diaspora. We really need to think deeper into why these ideals exist & what truth is there to it. Just like the UK, there are African and Caribbean people. However, America is so much bigger than the UK so there is more space to be a bit more disjointed but in places like NYC, Florida, etc. these communities come together. There's a neighborhood in Brooklyn called Little Caribbean that houses the largest amount of Caribbean people outside of the Caribbean Islands. As a Jamaican woman, I love & appreciate Black American culture. Also, when Black people say they are from America - they mean exactly that. It's not that they don't want to learn what country their ancestors are from but when people tease them for "not knowing where they are from" you are invalidating their lived experience as a Black American because a lot of them have 10 generations of being Black in America so much so that a lot of Black Americans have ties to Native Americans and are apart of different tribes. Please I beg of UK people to do more research and educate themselves on the true American culture outside of Slavery.
Fred is deffo bribing you man, I've deepest it. Russell Crowe is an Aussie. He didn't sound like that in the 1st Gladiator at all. Don't besmirch man's name like that. GIVE FRED THE HELMET!!!! Disagree with Charlie on Denzel. These Roman films always have actors doing British accents. Why aren't we hearing what would be close enough to Latin accents from that era? There are many great examples of American actors doing British accents and other foreign accents very well, people like Fred only focus on the bad ones imo. There are also bad American accents done by Brits, but we seem to allow them. Crazy. Many worldwide renowned acting schools in America and here. Saying that American actors don't have any makes no sense. Dennis needs to GIVE FRED THE HELMET. Charlie Mase is on his 1st strike.
@@jollofrice3547 send the time stamp when Fred said Russell was from a country or not an Aussie. Send the time stamp when I said they ain't got any good acting schools in America.
Farabale and read things properly Fred. I didn't say that you said that they don't have any acting schools. Listen to what you said from 43:00-43:12 and re-read that part of my comment again. Then listen to you from 45:10-17ish about Russell Crowe. You said that he was himself and just speaking in his voice. He is an Aussie and did not sound like himself in Gladiator. He had a British accent. I don't trust Temi to give to you Fred, but I trust Dennis to give it to you, because you really need it. 😂
@jollofrice3547 loool so when you said 'many worldwide renowned acting schools in America and here. Saying that America don't have any makes no sense.' what did you mean by that or you not saying thats what I said? Or how are you calling for the helmet. Please explain cos .... So when Tem said does it sound American when he's not American why ain't you calling his name. I ain't put nothing on his accent or performance but you wona call my name. Lemme throw your farabale back at you man. Pulling up with nonsense. And then calling for VP to do your dirty work. Tuh
Temi asked a question. Those are never helmet-worthy offences. Dennis, where you at bruv? There's no traffic right now, you should be here. I hope everyone is seeing this today. You win for now, but you'll caress that helmet again one day. 🙏
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The siblings talk made me really want them to do an episode where they bring their siblings on. If this is possible please please do it. It would be such an amazing episode. Also, hearing Fred talk about his sibling dynamic I can defo see middle-child syndrome in him now. Always chilled 😂😂
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VP another reason why it seems like slavery didn’t happen in the UK is because in the US, slavery happened on US own soil, mainly in the southern states, so the impact of slavery is in their face and a constant reminder for them. In the UK, slavery mostly happened in the Caribbean, across the ocean, so it’s not really in our face like it is in the US. That distance makes it easier for people here to ignore the impact of it.
For Ghanaians and Nigerians to say that is crazy but understandable. Africans in UK weren’t the victims of the transatlantic slave trade, Americans and Caribbeans were. “Black” is a label from the British to group phenotypic “slaves” all together. We’re not the same
@VNDRE7 to say what?
There were Black people brought to Britain and other European countries - it was a smaller amount in comparison.
Also, as a result of enslavement was the destruction of Africa and post colonialism which lead to alot of Africa being in Shackles now. It was not the same. We will be the same to say that. We say that though. That's not even the conversation. The issue is you lot act like NOTHING HAPPENED TO Africans that were not taken. It absolutely did. And you can't name me one book you have read on the topic to disprove that. That's the problem. If you read about it and it was a lie, fine. But you don't even check. It's not good enough.
Lastly, Black was created due to eugenics, yes but English ppl and also Germans had a hand in "theories." This all started in the 1400s, before enslavement. It was used on Africans straight up. Negroid, Black etc. And characteristics were placed on the label Africans to call them lazy etc, after they went to Africa and enjoyed themselves and had great things to say. They clocked that there were things they could take, and the good things people said was swept under the rug and negroid, black and primitive took its place. Black is not solely for those taken to America. It is not.
@@VNDRE7while it’s important to highlight different countries and cultures, let’s not get side tracked by our differences and instead focus on our similarities. Maybe not the exact same, but we are all human and experiencing blackness in whatever font that comes in.
the UK took slaves from Africa to their colonies in hot places to work on the plantations mainly
@@VNDRE7sum ghananians were speak to fantes theres a reason their surname is British
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And here Temi is broadcasting the same thing his dad said he would 😂😂😂
Loooooooool
Word for word 😂😂😂😂😂
1:11:50 "Let me show you the back of the design" and all Fred succeeded in showing us is nyash
And like a baddie, no less
Crazy scenes 🤣🤣
completely agree with fred’s point on the seemingly one sided beef between african americans and black british, whilst i truly appreciate charlie’s empathy and believe we should follow in those steps, i cant help but be annoyed when the responsibility falls on black british, ignorance is a lack of education - and i say we brits are pretty well versed in usa politics and culture since we get taught in schools extensively also as an aspiring actor, fred is completely right we get taught acting, as i am, on a formal level so if they are finding brits are getting casted it’s because we’re right/ trained for the role, also the one common ‘enemy’ is not each other is the coloniser and every-time we have this spat they’re laughing in their graves that they’ve managed to segregate us between continents.
Can’t avoid it, Tems trim looks too clean
His barber must charge an obscene amount of money 😂
@@kevin084lifeI’m pretty sure recently he said he pays £35
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You guys forgot Nellys drop down and get your eagle on, banger!
Oh Good lawrd what did y'all do gifting me a membership 😂😂😂
1:02:51 shout out to Charlie for his take and point of view. Very often we as Africans don’t understand the privilege we have of simply knowing where you come from. As an African child I can tell you multiple times I’ve heard my own parents tell me “you aren’t like them, you know where you come from.” We don’t often acknowledge our bias in how we view African Americans and sometimes other cultures. For perspective think about this grandparents of some of the African Americans you see today lived or experienced either slavery or segregation. It really has not been that long and those scars are still there. The big point is to not put the blame on people who look like us but understand and accept that our lived experiences and points of views are vastly different. Focus on the people who causes the hurt vs trying to have struggle Olympics with each other.
To speak on Fred’s point, yes slavery existed in Britain but Chattel Slavery and segregation in America was a different beast and very much so engrained into the fabric of the US.
This is so true! I always tell my best friend she is so blessed to be able to know where she is from. As a Jamaican, we are very much in the same boat as the African Americans as we do not know which country in Africa we were stolen from, all we know is the Caribbean colony we were taken to.
I loved when you said "not to put the blame on people who look like us" I think back in the day like African Americans, Caribbeans felt that African people looked down on us/thought they were better than us partly based on comments like what you said your parents said "you aren't like them..." and then our internal turmoil of knowing that we actually are a lost people. Its my theory that, that played a part in why some Caribbeans would ridicule Africans back in the day - projection. Which plays right into the hands of the power structure who wanted to ensure we were separated and disunited.
A certified banger whenever mase comes in 👏
Guys 😂Godfrey was born to two Nigerian parents yall! He went to a good university and is second generation Nigerian by birth FYI! He’s a walking parody
I'm a foundational black American and I've taken an ancestryDNA/23&Me test. I'm mostly Nigerian and supposedly I'm Igbo. But I also have other countries within Africa that's in my DNA as well. According to 23&Me, I also share an ancient paternal lineage with Pharaoh Ramesses III. I also have European and Indigenous American ancestry in my DNA as well. Most of us black Americans don't know where we came from because our ancestors been in America for hundreds of years. I can trace my ancestry all the way back to the 1700s in America. And , I'm sure it goes back further than that, to the 1600s. America wasn't officially a country until 1789. And, America won their independence from Britain in 1776. So long story short, a lot of us African Americans, our ancestors were here working the land long before the United States became a country. So we are African descendants and fully American at the same time (no second-class citizen despite how the majority might treat us). I love Africans. I love Africa. My best friend from childhood is Ghanian. And, I'm also not one of those ignorant African Americans when it comes to having knowledge about Africa. I can name many African countries from the top of my head without looking at a map. And I've always been interested in learning about history and different cultures.
24:17 TEMIS VOCALS IS KILLING MEEEE😭😭😭
VP’s point about slavery in the UK is a v valid one tbh. Read up on Lord Mansfield’s judgment in Somerset’s case if you’re interested as that goes into a bit of the history of slavery in the UK. It wasn’t widespread but they were defo slaves here. A lot got sent back to Africa though when slavery was abolished and a colonial settlement in Freetown, Sierra Leone was established for freed British slaves (the US equivalent for this was Liberia)
There is no world where Sean Paul get spun by Nelly in a 10 v 10 or Motive… Nelly is best for a lil personal playlist
I had no idea that’s where the “a piece of cake” saying came from
In all honesty, I always wondered what the full history of Black slaves in the UK was, even to this day, what I know of only goes back to Windrush
Everyday’s a school day! Big up 90s Baby and Charlie Mase!
Big up Temi every time for the history lessons! Please drop where you find all this knowledge
Another GOATED Episode!!!
1:22:50 Temi's call back to "There is CHURCH on RUclips right now!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Top tier guest each and every time
Yh this gonna be great man 😊
Charlie is always an A1 guest 🙌🏿💥🔥
I was in a class with Charlie Mase's sister in secondary school and i remember the day we find out her name wasn't "Christina" as we thought. It was acc a whole thing at school🤣🤣🤣Such a random bit of lore i remember every time i see Charlie Mase on the podcast
There needs to be a segment called ‘History with Alchemy’
Please Nelly Lord help me🤣🤣🤣🤣 going to be 60 this year Before dancehall when you know riddims from the 60s hello DADDY. MY LOVE ALAN 🤣🤣🤣🤣
What’s so mad about the whole Godfrey situation is, his parents are Nigerian. Yet he’s always spewing nonsense about Africans & the diaspora 😕
Charlie’s storytelling was brazyyyy. I was in the whip with him😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
2:11:35 nah this story is jokes 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It has to be Sean Paul for meee
I LOVE BEING A MEMBER!
Nah Charlie’s story is killing me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Big supporter all the way from the U.S. !!! Charlie Mase is hilarious 😂 Please bring Shaybo on!!!
😂😂😂 the beatings story had me bussing up omg
U man need to get DR Umar on, would be an ep for the ages 👌🏾
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Charlie, on the show, is a certified banger !!!
What shoes are VP and Temi wearing? Too cold 😎
I'm 3mins in and I'm dead 😂😂😂
There was one time that we had Jeans for Genes day and my secondary school was playing songs that had the the word jeans in it…….at lunch time they played ‘In Those Jeans’ by Genuwine, this was a predominantly white school and they DID NOT UNDERSTAND the implications of that song 🤣🤣🤣 AT ALLL
37:42 😂😂😂😂😂 nah Temi your jokes
I love Charlie input and thoughts on this topic. But, I suggest ensuring that your heritage is preserved by exposing your children, grandchildren, and future generations to your culture. This includes sharing your food, traditional garments, music, shows, and especially your language. While it can be challenging to maintain these traditions after living in a country where the dominant culture, language, and food are different, making consistent efforts to provide access to these aspects of your heritage can make a lasting impact… Those were the things stolen from us during slavery. Once they were freed, they had to assimilate for their own safety and to gain even the slightest opportunity to thrive in a country that wasn’t theirs. After witnessed people who looked and sounded like them being beaten and lynched for far less. FYI there is a sector of black British people that do not have any African or Caribbean heritage connection because it too was lost hundreds of years ago. Don’t let the ignorance of a couple hundred thousand of people speak for everyone because i know more people than not that fucks heavy with the diaspora here in America
I see Charlie, and I watch
Interesting discussion on the whole slavery/education thing. What Britain have done very well is slyly romanticise their role in slavery to make people believe they weren't involved so much. They were one of the biggest players, it just didn't happen so much on British soil. Look at how many British colonies there were and think where this stemmed from. Britain were the first to "end" slavery but what they don't publicise is that to do this they paid £20m compensation to the slave owners for their "property", 40% of the national budget that year. That's one of the biggest payouts in British history and if you equate that to now then the amount would be nuts. To put it into context, that debt to slave owners in 1833 was only finally paid off in 2015. CRAZY 🤣and our taxes have contributed to those payments. This is the kind of stuff they don't educate us on, in school we only learn about white history, the majority of black history we hear is negative or struggle eg slavery, MLK, Malcolm X - why didn't they teach us about the Windrush Generation 🤷♂
1:06:21 Lancey & Skepta are being heard here more since they’re collating w American artists. & I’m ngl Gabzy was able to sellout a show in New York so 🤷🏾♀️. As for TikTok artists Stepz & NDotz are doing good too
Charlie is a case 😂😂😂😂😂
Someone please ask him what happened to his podcast. I was really enjoying it
Surprised you guys never mentioned She doesn’t mind by Sean & nice trim btw Tem 👍
@@jonathanbeek5254 banger
@90sBabyShow The British mostly enslaved black people outside of the UK for example when they sent their boats out to capture black people they set up colonies in the Caribbean like Jamaica, Barbados etc. Which is why Caribbeans know we are Caribbean and not English but like the Africans Americans, we have no idea which country in Africa we originate from. So even the Windrush generation are descendants of enslaved people. So really, It is only people whose families immigrated directly from an African country - like you guys, know where their people are from.
big up Nelly, one of the only rappers to go DIAMOND!!
37:40 😭😭😭😭😭😭 CLIP THIS PLS
Sean Paul and Nelly have the same amount of hit songs 28
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Vp what brand is your varsity jacket
7:08 HELMET FOR TEMI !!
Temi Central Cee is Chinese Guyanese not Black Guyanese
Saying African Americans don’t know where they’re from is ignorant. No difference between African American and Afro-Caribbean.
But black people here never refer to themselves as Afro-Caribbean, if you ask them they’d always tell you what country . Afro-Caribbean is just something that is put on forms
My point exactly and I am from West Indies!! We don't question Jamaicans on where they are 'really from', we don't even question white Canadians or Americans but for some reason black Americans are seen as ignorant for not knowing.
The El Vardi trainers are cold
Charlie needs to make his own Everybody Hates Chris or something
“Yoruba is a beautiful language” 😭
On the topic of the gladiator it’s funny because it’s a movie set in Italy
And they are speaking English so it don’t really matter technically 😭😭
@49:51 when temi does this kinda laugh, just know that ur cooked
Empathy for ignorance is kind sure, but it's not helpful for anyone when it's rooted in bigotry. Our schools, on either side of the pond, cherrypick what history to teach us to make sure we believe certain things and don't know the true extent of the transatlantic slave trade or how evil America and Europeans acted towards people of colour whilst creating their identities - we all often forget how American/British we act towards each other when we beef. To not know where you come from as an African-American is totally justified but to not know Africa is a continent I think speaks more to the American education system brainwashing them to believe their country is number 1, rather than gaps in their ancestry. I know where I come from, but know nothing of my family more than 2 generations back, that has no bearing on the fact I know Asia doesn't just mean China. Also, because the majority of chattel slavery was carried out in the US & the Caribbean for 100s of years for British slave owners, Europe mostly profited but didn't have anywhere near as many slaves living here. Once it was abolished, the UK paid "compensation" to slave owners (only finished paying 10 years ago!), "allowed" freed people to return to Africa/build in the UK & transferred wealth through colonisation (the British empire). America had a civil war to uphold slavery, that's why they have generations upon generations of Black people, whilst we have a Windrush generation & mass immigration from the Comonwealth.
37:12 this reminds of the time when I didn’t realise ova dweet meant over do it. I was gobsmacked when I found out
23:18 its all in ma headd
The Black poor lived in London during the 18th century and the ancestors of Krios from SierraLeone. They were made up of the enslaved, runaway salves, indentured servants, and the poor. They were later sent to Sierra Leone and helped establish Freetown.
By the way guys Godfrey is😮 Nigerian @90sbabyshow
Temi the trim !
Godfrey is Nigerian American. Denzel is from New York.
What shoes are those? They look nice still 👀
They put things in books hoping we dont read them... get the books before they are digitalised and ma ipulated even more. The battle to keep us here is spiritual as the body is just a space suit
2:19:22 that's too real😂😂
Godfrey is Nigerian-American.
Africans doing Sean Pauls tracks his hilarious! do not know any of his lyrics LOL
You counted Ever Blazing twice no?
@@otowesho12 it's possible
Fred has all the elements to be a great politician. He won’t let any angle distract him from his point or message.
Congratulations to VP and his wife on their first.
Tems you still owe us Larry June. I’m hoping when he’s going on tour again in the UK, you can link up with him. #Numbers
Tem your trim is loud in this episode
what happened to trivia?
This! 😢
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Temi can sing you know 23:14
What’s this obsession with black Americans “not knowing where they’re from”. Why can’t black Americans just be from America? Nobody questions when white Americans say they’re American. You have Italian Americans/Irish Americans who have been here for 2,3 generations, and when they say “I’m American” it’s not a problem. But when black Americans, who’s families have been here for 5,6 generations says they’re American it’s “you don’t know where you’re from.”
Nobody questions it when a black Jamaican says they’re from Jamaica, or a black Colombian says they’re Colombian, or a black Brazilian says they’re Brazilian. Even though they’ve been in those places the same amount of time black Americans have been in America.
Even the well meaning comments saying “oh you can’t blame Americans its such a blessing/privilege to know where you’re from”
These are missing the point. We DO know where we’re from. Black Americans are American. We’ve been here for 300 years and have our own history.
There is a huge number of Nigerians that mass immigrated to Ghana and Ivory Coast back in the 60s. Today, their grandchildren claim “I’m Ghanaian” or “I’m Ivorian”, and it’s no problem. But Black Americans who have been here for 300 years somehow “don’t know where they’re from” lol
Guys, Irv Gotti isn't married... His wife divorced him after his infidelity and other personal reasons became public...
@@ninamugabe so he was married before?
@@90sBabyShow yes to Debbie Lorenzo (his now ex-wife)
So why didn’t they all have Greek accents but to say everyone should have an English accent because of the time period and not the place is crazy 44:54
I typed a whole thing on hereand my phone died😩 long story short what Godfrey said was true and applies to the older generation that came and made it a point to separate themselves from AA and you have blacks outside of the US online that don’t truly know the history of AA in the US and let alone what the “1870 wall” is. As a 1st Gen kid i was lucky to grow up in the DMV but the US is huge and there are truly only pockets of diversity in this country. Everyone learns their continents but that’s the most you’re are going to hear about Africa in school. It’s not willful ignorance but also to try and argue with someone who’s family built this country about where they are “truly from” when your countries official language is English or French and money is backed by the Pound or Franc is nasty work. I understand what yall were saying but there are diaspora people wars online every day all the time and AA are the ones on the receiving end
Good point
@@saforas_I hate when that happens lolol but yeah fairs, I think we just need to learn about each other alot more because then we wouldn't be saying crazy things. It's annoying!
Sean Paul > Nelly. Let’s be serious now
I can be anywhere doing anything and a Sean Paul tune will play and its instantly UP.
1:07:38 young adz or nines
Russell Crowe is Australian fellas
@@abm3853 who said he wasn't? 👀 And he's from new Zealand if we being technical 🤣
@ lol i get the virtual helmet
i think someone mentioned he had an american accent in gladiator 1 but hey its early so may bad!
@@abm3853 lol go check it again see who said it and call their name 😂😂
@ lol 45:12 Temi assumed Russell Crowe put on an american accent
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47:28 As an American...I think Godfrey is corny, don't listen to him 😂
Nasty girl gonna make me lose control tho
Ikr, but ah diddy man... kmt... ain't listened to it in time even before this whole ordeal but chai...
And FYI Russell Crowe is from New Zealand and had an American accent in gladiator. Leave uncle Denzel alone tenk u
Chile ... the slaves went to the British colonies and not England... Jamaicans also like Americans don't know where they come from. We are less like them beside we are from a majority black country and some african culture language was able to be passed on due to slaves running away and living in the hills. ... very few slaves went to England however they had children with white ppl and the blood line is now white
Flapppp your wing……..
We need Dr Umar on the show
Americans do not think that Africa is a country. People outside of America have created that stereotype of Americans to further separate the diaspora. We really need to think deeper into why these ideals exist & what truth is there to it. Just like the UK, there are African and Caribbean people. However, America is so much bigger than the UK so there is more space to be a bit more disjointed but in places like NYC, Florida, etc. these communities come together. There's a neighborhood in Brooklyn called Little Caribbean that houses the largest amount of Caribbean people outside of the Caribbean Islands. As a Jamaican woman, I love & appreciate Black American culture. Also, when Black people say they are from America - they mean exactly that. It's not that they don't want to learn what country their ancestors are from but when people tease them for "not knowing where they are from" you are invalidating their lived experience as a Black American because a lot of them have 10 generations of being Black in America so much so that a lot of Black Americans have ties to Native Americans and are apart of different tribes. Please I beg of UK people to do more research and educate themselves on the true American culture outside of Slavery.
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Fred is deffo bribing you man, I've deepest it. Russell Crowe is an Aussie. He didn't sound like that in the 1st Gladiator at all. Don't besmirch man's name like that. GIVE FRED THE HELMET!!!!
Disagree with Charlie on Denzel. These Roman films always have actors doing British accents. Why aren't we hearing what would be close enough to Latin accents from that era?
There are many great examples of American actors doing British accents and other foreign accents very well, people like Fred only focus on the bad ones imo. There are also bad American accents done by Brits, but we seem to allow them. Crazy.
Many worldwide renowned acting schools in America and here. Saying that American actors don't have any makes no sense.
Dennis needs to GIVE FRED THE HELMET. Charlie Mase is on his 1st strike.
@@jollofrice3547 send the time stamp when Fred said Russell was from a country or not an Aussie.
Send the time stamp when I said they ain't got any good acting schools in America.
Farabale and read things properly Fred. I didn't say that you said that they don't have any acting schools. Listen to what you said from 43:00-43:12 and re-read that part of my comment again.
Then listen to you from 45:10-17ish about Russell Crowe. You said that he was himself and just speaking in his voice. He is an Aussie and did not sound like himself in Gladiator. He had a British accent.
I don't trust Temi to give to you Fred, but I trust Dennis to give it to you, because you really need it. 😂
@jollofrice3547 loool so when you said 'many worldwide renowned acting schools in America and here. Saying that America don't have any makes no sense.' what did you mean by that or you not saying thats what I said? Or how are you calling for the helmet. Please explain cos ....
So when Tem said does it sound American when he's not American why ain't you calling his name. I ain't put nothing on his accent or performance but you wona call my name. Lemme throw your farabale back at you man. Pulling up with nonsense. And then calling for VP to do your dirty work. Tuh
Besmirch😂😂
Temi asked a question. Those are never helmet-worthy offences. Dennis, where you at bruv? There's no traffic right now, you should be here.
I hope everyone is seeing this today. You win for now, but you'll caress that helmet again one day. 🙏
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