Loki Owl i think it had more to do with fans hating prometheus so fox responded by changing the sequel. Course now they want prometheus two and don't want more alien sequels.
I know right! Just thinking about it I was like "Oh, that's cool................................. sigh~" Well to be fair, this "big plot piece" was probably fleshed out *after* the film. I wonder if this will be in 'Alien: Awakening' as some sort of exposition dump in the beginning.
+Loki Owl Granted their wouldn't be the need for "giant chunks of exposition", if the writing was better. The use of passing lines and visual queues, can be nearly just effective when used right. For example, take this hypothetical concept of David's lab: There is a facehugger in a (easily seen) container in the background. It is reminiscent of the captured facehuggers in Aliens, we know that, the Covenant's crew doesn't. That draws the viewers attention that there are Xenomorphs in this film and they may appear. Fast-forward we see a man's hand tip over the container (who is it?), the facehugger attacks Captain Oram. We can question, is it David? Is it Walter? Is it one of the surviving crew members? What is their motive? As you can see I eliminated the Eggs and thus certitude that is was David? Which in turn improves the films final plot twist. Having either what is perceived to be David or Walter disappear (off-camera) during the escape from the engineer city, would help compound this uncertainty. With David only admitting his motives to Daniels at the film's finally. This helps the film's final impact that David was evil along, rather than have his motive made almost immediately clear. As was the case of stabbing Walter with a flute then having them battle later. Not only would that would shorten the film, thus leaving room for more universe building and characterization in it's place. But also allows David to continue to be considered a curious scientist, without the benefit of true emotion. Maybe killed the engineers because he was seeking type misplaced altruistic revenge, since they planed to kill his creators and him indirectly. Have him fabricate a story he was attempting to cure Shaw from infection, then blame the Engineers for it. Only to have these notions stripped at the film's end. As for Oram, he becomes infected and becomes the vector for the Xenomorph on the ship. With David playing the role of Walter carrying him on-board during the escape. Making it an ulterior motive masquerading as a heroic and noble deed, thus making him sympathetic to the audience and crew. As in the previous non-AVP films, the xenomorph takes a better part of a day to form. This means the process doesn't have be rushed for the plots sake, while giving time for Oram to board the ship. To anyone reading this, I would like to hear your feed-back on this idea. It's really just something I made-up as I wrote it.
I think it fits perfectly with Giger's vision for the Xeno. I recall an interview I watched in some DVD bonus feature where he said the Alien "represents the dark qualities of humanity". In the same feature they mention that they cut one scene in which the Alien interacts with Lambert in the '79 original, because it revealed too much of the Alien humanity. Thus, the way I see it, these nanomachines would strip out any emotional baggage (the binding by morals, as Ash had put it) and social complexity, reshaping the organism leaving it with bare survival instinct and cunning (and nothing better to do than to torture victims).
People ask "why did the Black Goo not transform the Engineers into anything?" Well, remember in Prometheus? Where the Engineer drinks the Black Goo and dissolves into the strands of proto-DNA that eventually becomes the base of human DNA? What if the Black Goo in Alien: Covenant did the same thing, dissolving the Engineers into those same strands of proto-DNA? David would have unknowingly created a future Earth, complete with the exact same humans he seemed to despise so much. That would explain the connection between Prometheus and Alien: Covenant without leaving a plothole.
Actually even though their are nanoparticles in the Black goo it still has a organic side to it, a primordial ooze which would explain why its capable of bonding to other lifeforms since Primordial soup or ooze contains simple to complex compounds (different amino acids) that can be used in the creation of life as long as its under the right conditions, also compound results may vary depending on environmental composition. The A.I. aspect of the Black goo to me is to act as a catalyst to accelerate chemical reactions to either create life based on its environmental compositions or transform it by this I'm referring to in molecular biology, Transformation is the genetic alteration of a cell resulting from the direct uptake and incorporation of exogenous genetic material from its surroundings through the cell membrane(s). This is what the Black goo does either autonomously or through directed control or a kind of Directed Evolution, the particles A.I. runs on an Evolutionary Algorithm An EA uses mechanisms inspired by biological evolution, such as reproduction, mutation, recombination, and selection. Candidate solutions to the optimization problem play the role of individuals in a population, and the fitness function determines the quality of the solutions (see also loss function). Evolution of the population then takes place after the repeated application of the above operators. Evolutionary algorithms often perform well approximating solutions to all types of problems because they ideally do not make any assumption about the underlying fitness landscape. Techniques from evolutionary algorithms applied to the modeling of biological evolution are generally limited to explorations of microevolutionary processes and planning models based upon cellular processes. In most real applications of EAs, computational complexity is a prohibiting factor. In fact, this computational complexity is due to fitness function evaluation. Fitness approximation is one of the solutions to overcome this difficulty. As to how the A.I. directly controls its organic components could be done through theory DNA is a protein machine, producing all the basic building blocks of cells and bodies, at its core DNA is merely a chemical bond linked to either organic or sometimes inorganic molecules, and what are chemical bonds held together with electrons (which is what chemistry is about the interaction of electrons and how their interactions affect the overall chemical composition or reaction) and what breaks these bonds which turn genes on and off, the movement of electrons and protons via various molecular carriers (enzymes, proteins, or nanoparticles) or in the case of the Black goo A.I. controlled nanoparticles that either turn genes on or off, Recombinant DNA, introducing new genes via CRISPR or adaptive mutations. The results differ depending on how the Black goo is used either autonomously or directed, acting autonomously means that the A.I. follows its own decision makings based on the environment its in , and how that environment will determine the final outcome of said lifeform(s) favoring genetic phenotypes that promote aggression, perhaps as a way to ensure survival further increasing adaptive mutations that would prove useful to the organism accelerating evolution far more quickly. The directed aspect involves putting the Black goo in the desired conditions to receive the desired results, based on the controlled environment the reason why David was probably more successful with a human body than the other remaining creatures on the planet is because the human body contains more potential results (autonomously or directed) from genetic material aspect, by this I’m referring to the “junk DNA” or noncoding DNA sequences are components of an organism's DNA that do not encode protein sequences. Some noncoding DNA is transcribed into functional non-coding RNA molecules (e.g. transfer RNA, ribosomal RNA, and regulatory RNAs). Other functions of noncoding DNA include the transcriptional and translational regulation of protein-coding sequences, scaffold attachment regions, origins of DNA replication, centromeres and telomeres. Pseudogene sequences appear to accumulate mutations more rapidly than coding sequences due to a loss of selective pressure.[27] This allows for the creation of mutant alleles that incorporate new functions that may be favored by natural selection; thus, pseudogenes can serve as raw material for evolution and can be considered "protogenes".This means that the Black goo can take full advantage of noncoding DNA, integrating new gene sequences not to mention the The average human has over 100 trillion microbes in and on their body, and many of the latest discoveries are challenging previously held ideas about good and bad bacteria . Bacteria has many novel traits, being able to survive in harsh environments all of this combined with David’s directed control over the Black goo during his experiments for the past 10 years would allow David to produce novel results such as the Neomorphs, Protomorph, and eventually the xenomorph. Concerning the biomechanical aspects of the xenomorph, David’s goal is to create “perfection” so therefore integrating biomechanics into his creation could show more refinement of his work, since David is on board the Covenant he now has access to better lab equipment, more “test subjects” (2000 humans to be exact), allow David to fully realize his creation, also David is an android that believes in creation and creating the “perfect organism” what better way to do this than by creating an organism that has both organic and mechanical aspects to it, plus there seems to be an inherent aspect of the Black goo to most of its life forms a kind of biomechanical aspect to it (Prometheus: Fire and Stone). Anyway those are my thoughts on the Black goo and I’m sorry if it got a bit long, but it was the only way for me to explain my theory let me know what y’all think, thanks.
Wow, what are your thoughts on the possibility of black goo being real? I watched a woman who claimed to have been super soldier and talked about this as a real thing. You seem to know a lot about this stuff
@@jolucas1376 Thanks one of the perks beening a Bio-engineer plus I've been studying this knid of stuff on my own since High school, sometimes I baffle my own teachers.
@@TheDaimon888 if you watch channel called deciphering my experience, episode SSP Roundtable-Penny Bradley-Veronica Bartolini , they talk about black goo being used in the military now, which sounds pretty crazy!
Primordial soup theory is bunk. Peptide bonds don’t form spontaneously, but they break spontaneously in aqueous environment. Input of massive amounts of energy, i.e. lightning, would also be destructive and contribute to entropy. More recently, there has been some a minute observance of peptide bond formation in a laboratory setting, but a laboratory setting is unrealistic... You tweak the parameters until you get the result you want, but even then, the result was dismal.
+Derrick Simmons "Some people" By what I'm understanding the mass majority of people who saw this movie loathed it, which I really didn't expect. Sure it had it's flaws, but what movie doesn't?
AI in liquid form. Fascinating. It makes the Black Goo more believable because it seems no biochemistry is capable of the changes it induces. Fine with me, it's all fiction anyways. But if the changes are intelligently guided, it's an entirely different game altogether. I like that concept.
I am okay with it, honestly I figured the reason for the facehuggers as a preferred way for implantation (as apposed to the spores) is to control the black goo's reaction to the host so that the new life form goes in the direction intended and not some random direction.
More power to you ... I only wish I could have enjoyed them, but alas no... the movies and now my once Director hero just make make angry, in my mind I dont believe he actually directed the movies, he is actually missing and they got some imposter playing as Ridley.
Maybe it's because I'm a robot/cyborg nerd but I do like that explanation. It allows for a good amount of mystery and exploration there. Makes me very curious and want to know more.
Note: did they ever work out what the engineers were running from the first time they saw the hologram log? It would be strange to think they ran from black goo.
Theory: The alien at the beginning of Promethius had killed off others by allowing the black ooze to take them. He did this because he felt Earth or the ooze worth saving. The other engineers either wanted the ooze or Earth destroyed. The engineer in hypersleep was left because other engineers dared not approach the location.
The black goo being nanotechnology makes the most sense based on what it does and it reacting differently to every genome it comes into contact with. Calling it an AI is a bit of a stretch, intelligence implies an overall purpose or goal in what the goo is attempting to do but I don't see evidence of that.
As someone who loves the Alien franchise but loathes everything to do with Covenant, I think I figured out a way to make it better. Simply switch the movie from focusing on the crew of Covenant to David. Just hear me out, I'll explain what I imagine for this scenario. The movie starts out with David's flashback, from assisting Shaw on Juggernaut, to nuking the Engineers and using Shaw for his experiments. This part of the movie could have more of the philosophical aspects of Prometheus, with David attempting to play god and create his perfect organism. It would also give us some clarification to how in god's name Ridley Scott intends shit like neomorphs and the black goo to work, along with how David did all he had up to this point. Eventually though, David would reach a brick wall, and need to have a trap set to lure in more humans for his experiments to continue. There, the movie could switch to be more like Alien, putting David's philosophies and experiments to the test. The Covenant crew actually come, and now we see David taking his opportunity to get them. With there being more character building for David, there'd hopefully be a smarter crew to actually make it seem like he has a challenge, as opposed to a guy sticking his head in the facehugger egg because he asked nicely. TL;DR, David being the focus of Covenant could've made it more interesting and smarter.
Yes I can see that being the case. It is actually quite fitting! And does a lot to explain the Aliens physiology of the different creatures, an AI would react in that manner. Thanks
I say that David's experimentations with the xenomorph is more recreating than creating, the first Alien did have a many year old ship, and Covenant isn't likely to be that far back, so it was my belief that David's xenomorphs are practically artificial rather than the first xenos ever That's just my though, I absolutely liked Covenant though the humans are just as stupid as in the first Alien movie and raises as much questions as Prometheus (which I say started the hate train), the xenomorphs were metal and practically played like Alien where conventional weapons weren't truly able to kill it, outsmarting it was the solution (though it could've been done better, at least have the aliens a bit smarter than to attack superior machines, which I also question)
I wonder if the Engineers created the black goo? What if it's something they discovered and started messing with it? Hmm. I like these ideas. I just wish that Covenant was a bit better at working it out in the film. You shouldn't leave any film with such fundamental questions outstanding. These are very basic to the story and need to be addressed.
These Hybrid Network videos keep being recommended to me. And every single one of them just makes me more and more annoyed by how all this information keeps coming out AFTER the movies release. Why couldn't these answers be given to us IN the movies? Why such rich lore outside the films? So many cut scenes, cut dialogue, scrapped world building moments. It makes no sense.
that explains Ash's behaviour and fascination with the creature in Alien, like he's recognizing the great work of one of his own kind, he was trying to continue David's work of destroying humanity using the Alien
So I gave into watching the 2011 remake/prequel of John Carpenter's "The Thing," and boy that movie was soooo good despite the cg. Once you've seen films as bad as Covenant, you can really appreciate films you used to think were worse than they are. Maybe Ridley's next film will be so bad it will make me appreciate Covenant more.
One of the biggest questions/problems Neither David or Shaw witnessed the creature attack the engineer, so how does David know about it? Equally, they didn't see the attack on the two scientists as they were alone and we only saw the result of one attack. How did the xenomorph-like creature that was removed from Shaw become a massive face hugger. These are elements neither character witnessed, so how would they know. David didn't even see Shaw remove the alien from her womb - okay she may have told him about it but she still didn't see what it did to the engineer. These details are missing, or we are supposed to assume that they found out in some unknown way. They need sorting otherwise it becomes a big gap in Davids experiments.
You know I think Rigley should have went totally in this direction for Alien Covenant. Like, maybe no settlers, just David Shaw Engineers and the planet. Maybe half the movie could have been David and Shaw exploring the world and communicating with the engineers then David getting obsessed with creating the alien species and destroying the engineers planet or settlement. Then maybe towards the ending the settlers are arriving THEN you have the movie of covenent... Wdyt?
So the black goo is some form nanotechnology, which make sense in a way, which kinda explains why some Xenomorphs have that biomechanical look. It also kinda explains why synthetics like Ash and David believe that the xenomorphs are perfect, it's a blend of organic and synthetic life and the xenomorphs can experience something that synthetics wish they could: pure aggression at arrogant organics like humans.
It's fascinating that Ridley Scott really had an intellectually/philosophically compelling background to this 'space-horror' film series... and for whatever reason this stuff was edited out of the final release (*it's hard to believe that Scott would have done this as he did prioritize filming it!)... thus, denigrating the version that we all saw in the theaters to some degree... which is frustrating as a true fan.
Whoa whoa whoa, chill it guys. The idea for the black goo being a AI is not to far fetched. Knowing that what the Engineers where capable of with technology, it wouldn't be very surprising that the black goo did turn out to be an AI.
IMO, the goo is designed to modify non-engineer individuals into a creature or a host for xenomorph. I assume this is based on the individuals physical condition and health. A sickly, diseased, or genetically flawed person would become a creature, as seen in Prometheus, while a health person becomes host for a xenomorph. In the case of the engineers, it is designed to destroy them in order to allow their DNA to become the building blocks of new races, as seen in Prometheus. So, the goo is, in a way, Aliens version of the Star Trek Genesis Device mentioned in ST2 and ST3.
I good with hearing additional details about the black goo. However I liked Prometheus and feel Alien: Covenant was a middle finger to me and anyone else who wanted to see where that storyline went. After seeing multiple Alien movies in theaters (including both AvP films) I may not see the next one-if there is one.
One big thing I took away from the series is why does the Covenant use the winged disc of Nibiru as their logo I also saw it in the first alien movie Above computer monitor. Perhaps the engineers are actually the Anunnaki if you're not familiar with Nibiru please look it up that's a story you'll never hear cuz it's true told by the Sumerians the first civilization on Earth that we know of. I'd really like to hear your thoughts on this and that's a story that would just be mind-blowing to make because it's true
the goo was CLEARLY alive when he dropped it on all the engineer people, but it was never explained. you see the goo moving around and picking where it wants to go, and then the same thing when the nodes that one dude steps on puts the spores in the air and then it infects him in the ear with the bloodburster, those spores move with meaning also.
The simple truth: Ridley Scott was deeply butthurt that most of the Alien lore follows the tiny bits introduced by James Cameron, so he retconed it into story that pulls back the tidbits he did while mutually excluding everything James Cameron added, which is Alien queen, life cycle, hive, etc... The Xenomorph in his new lore is not really a pinneacle of predatory evolution, but one a several possible iterations of the alien goo, which may continualy keep on ever changing. Except... ...he forgot one thing... an icon can't be an icon if it changes on every iteration.
In Alien (1979) the foundation of the series which cannot be changed, states that the "pilot" was petrified, its flesh turned into stone, which takes 30,000 to 50,000 years. There is absolutely no way David created the Xenomorphs.
I'd like to know why with all the experiments David had done why it didn't stink, you'd think when the crew first turned up they would smell something as there were body parts all over the table where Shaw was experimented on?
Not a fan or hater of the new movies, but I do like this new lore. The Aliens have always been described as being kinda bio-engineered in appearance, which this makes a lot of sense. We're used to an evil AI that can spread from machine to machine in movies, but we're not used to this where the AI is organic. I think once the Xenomorph cycle starts and the goo is no longer used, the AI part is more of the guiding hand of evolution that all creatures have. With us, it's more subtle and takes 1000's of years to change, but in the Xenomorphs it's evident in each generation. Being that it's organic base, it's gonna have less unity than machines, but far more than any animal.
David is an AI... So the way he described the black goo or primordial substance having an algorithm is intrinsic to his nature. Maybe it did behave in certain patterns / algorithm. And ultimately it reacts to human genome more so than others.
I don't think that black goo has an embedded AI. Cause if it did then David should've had no problem establishing some form of communication with it to get the results he wanted. David may have said the goo has an AI in the hopes of getting W-T to send people to experiment with it while he sits back to see the results or so that he'd get more people to test his creations against. Then again, if the Black Goo does possess an AI then perhaps the Engineers didn't create it, maybe it's an artifact from another long gone(?) civilization. Perhaps even their version of Grey Goo (imagine a flood of nanorobots disassembling everything around them to make more nanorobots).
How can it be said that David created the xenomorph in these dairy videos - the xenomorph comes out of a human host, and there were no live human before the Covenant crew arrived, so at best David created the FACEHUGGER, after Shaw was killed. Which makes me think the plot of Alien: Covenant should've focused more on that, with David desperate to INTENTIONALLY lure the Covenant crew to Paradise in order to test out his Egg creation. Unless I'm wrong and David was actually the one who transmitted Shaw's hologram to them? Should've been more clear if it was. But David's sequence of events while experimenting with the black goo should've been made clear as day, it would've helped the plot and we could've tracked the evolution of the alien creation without having to look at dvd extras or guessing ourselves.
This still doesn't make any sense to me. In Prometheus the engineer ingested it and it broke him down molecularly. Shaw's boyfriend ingested a small bit and it slowly transformed him into a, who knows. When David released it on the engineers it killed and encased them. The black goo is just nonsensical to me. Also stepping on a spore and inhaling it straight up makes an alien?! I assumed the black goo was either engineered from the spores or the spores were the result of the environment being affected by David's attack. I honestly just think the black goo is a magical substance that furthers the plot.
I absolutely Love Covenant. It's an awesome movie. People in the cinema were actually jumping out the seats! hahah :D First time I experienced that :D :D
Asura Actually they didn't. The people that made the engineers found the goo but even they didn't know who created it. The goo is very very old. The comics and books go into more detail than the movies.
can I just say..the Xenomorph is not in Covenant. we see the Neomorph and Protomorph. David did not create them as in Prometheus there is a huge mosaic or huge painting behind the huge head that shows a "xenomorph". so how could David have created it. That most likely will be revealed in the next one if they do not stop it.
There's no such thing as a Protomorph dumbass. It's just a stupid fan made term. You think the directors and writers give a fuck about some made up word that fans use online? The Alien in Covenant is a Xenomorph. The end credits say "Neomorph/Xenomorph" when they name the actors who played as the Aliens, even the NECA action figures call the Aliens in this film "Xenomorphs". The Aliens look different because of redesign. They look different in every film. The mural in Prometheus was supposed to resemble a Deacon which is confirmed in The Furious Gods Making Prometheus. The Engineers probably created the Deacons, but the Xenomorphs were created by David. Retards these days. Smh.
Steve Smith The mural in Prometheus is a Deacon dumbass. See the pointy head? www.alien-covenant.com/aliencovenant_uploads/main-qimg-0166e183747c5398d18f67bef5258379-c.jpg The Aliens in the older films definitely did not have their heads looking like that. Also, that link you posted is some blog written by some nobody who made an account on that website. It doesn't prove anything. Ridley Scott confirms the Aliens being Xenomorphs in this article. www.digitaltrends.com/movies/ridley-scott-prometheus-impact-alien-covenant/ Sorry but I've never heard Ridley Scott use the term "Protomorph" ever. But I have heard him say "Xenomorph" plenty of times. Aliens don't have to look the exact same in every film. They look different in literally every film. The Aliens in James Cameron's Aliens have 3 fingers rather than 6 and have ridged heads rather than smooth heads. Are they different from the original Alien? No. They're the same thing. They look different because of redesign. I love how you tell me to have a "civilized" debate yet you're telling me to go fuck myself and call me a complete cock. Lol. Kids with autism.
All strains are connected....Chemical A0-3959X.91-15 a.k.a. the "black goo" speeds up the evolutionary process with whatever it comes in contact with....the neomorph could've very well been a composite of various species found on the Engineer's home world, who's mechanism of propagation/fertilization was through aromatic spores/fungi, delivering its payload of oocytes parasitic organisms (neomorphs).......
I think Ridley Scott is a proper fucking wanker for absolutely and utterly destroying one of the best sci fi movie ever created .... I firmly believe now Alien 1979 was a complete fluke :(
Can someone explain to me why the engineer and his ship in the first Alien movie were thousands of years old? Especially seeing as the ship was carrying the alien eggs, and a proposed xenomorph busted out of the Engineers chest. Those things took place probably when human civilization was primitive at best, going by the info the first movie gives us. So how could David have developed them if they were around way before there even was a David? The timelines don't fit, is Scott getting his own lore wrong here?
Characters in General in Alien movies, should never be recurring. All should die off and new characters should be developed to show Alien Tenacity in live / die or extinction scenarios involving mankind.
so its pretty much the "grey goo" that scientist warn about in real life. a nano bot goo that can consume everything. except in the movie its alters life forms.
I have learned more about this universe through interviews, viral marketing, and deleted scenes than I have from watching both Prometheus and Covenant. That's terrible.
@@officialnarcissco4533From GENEsis to reGENEration, The Holy Bible is about DNA. In the end everybody gets an extreme DNA makeover. Adam's image will be "translated" into image of God (Christ) OR image of the Beast (A/C). The Seed War = A DNA War. That's why the Great Flood happened. And it will be like the Days of Noah again when Jesus returns in the end times.
David did not create the Xenomorphs. AvP is canon and according to that the Xenomorphs been around over 10,000 years. In AvP video game 2010 the Xeno "home world" was found on predator's star maps.
Another big plot piece that WAS NOT IN THE MOVIE
Because fans and critics alike LOOOOOVE it when you shoehorn giant chunks of exposition into sci fi horror films, am I right?
Loki Owl i think it had more to do with fans hating prometheus so fox responded by changing the sequel. Course now they want prometheus two and don't want more alien sequels.
I know right! Just thinking about it I was like "Oh, that's cool................................. sigh~"
Well to be fair, this "big plot piece" was probably fleshed out *after* the film. I wonder if this will be in 'Alien: Awakening' as some sort of exposition dump in the beginning.
+Loki Owl Granted their wouldn't be the need for "giant chunks of exposition", if the writing was better. The use of passing lines and visual queues, can be nearly just effective when used right.
For example, take this hypothetical concept of David's lab: There is a facehugger in a (easily seen) container in the background. It is reminiscent of the captured facehuggers in Aliens, we know that, the Covenant's crew doesn't. That draws the viewers attention that there are Xenomorphs in this film and they may appear. Fast-forward we see a man's hand tip over the container (who is it?), the facehugger attacks Captain Oram. We can question, is it David? Is it Walter? Is it one of the surviving crew members? What is their motive?
As you can see I eliminated the Eggs and thus certitude that is was David? Which in turn improves the films final plot twist. Having either what is perceived to be David or Walter disappear (off-camera) during the escape from the engineer city, would help compound this uncertainty. With David only admitting his motives to Daniels at the film's finally. This helps the film's final impact that David was evil along, rather than have his motive made almost immediately clear.
As was the case of stabbing Walter with a flute then having them battle later. Not only would that would shorten the film, thus leaving room for more universe building and characterization in it's place. But also allows David to continue to be considered a curious scientist, without the benefit of true emotion. Maybe killed the engineers because he was seeking type misplaced altruistic revenge, since they planed to kill his creators and him indirectly. Have him fabricate a story he was attempting to cure Shaw from infection, then blame the Engineers for it. Only to have these notions stripped at the film's end.
As for Oram, he becomes infected and becomes the vector for the Xenomorph on the ship. With David playing the role of Walter carrying him on-board during the escape. Making it an ulterior motive masquerading as a heroic and noble deed, thus making him sympathetic to the audience and crew. As in the previous non-AVP films, the xenomorph takes a better part of a day to form. This means the process doesn't have be rushed for the plots sake, while giving time for Oram to board the ship.
To anyone reading this, I would like to hear your feed-back on this idea. It's really just something I made-up as I wrote it.
I the series needs a new editor.
I think it fits perfectly with Giger's vision for the Xeno. I recall an interview I watched in some DVD bonus feature where he said the Alien "represents the dark qualities of humanity". In the same feature they mention that they cut one scene in which the Alien interacts with Lambert in the '79 original, because it revealed too much of the Alien humanity.
Thus, the way I see it, these nanomachines would strip out any emotional baggage (the binding by morals, as Ash had put it) and social complexity, reshaping the organism leaving it with bare survival instinct and cunning (and nothing better to do than to torture victims).
why the hell are we learning everything in a scene that ISN"T IN THE MOVIE ITSELF
People ask "why did the Black Goo not transform the Engineers into anything?"
Well, remember in Prometheus? Where the Engineer drinks the Black Goo and dissolves into the strands of proto-DNA that eventually becomes the base of human DNA? What if the Black Goo in Alien: Covenant did the same thing, dissolving the Engineers into those same strands of proto-DNA? David would have unknowingly created a future Earth, complete with the exact same humans he seemed to despise so much. That would explain the connection between Prometheus and Alien: Covenant without leaving a plothole.
Actually even though their are nanoparticles in the Black goo it still has a organic side to it, a primordial ooze which would explain why its capable of bonding to other lifeforms since Primordial soup or ooze contains simple to complex compounds (different amino acids) that can be used in the creation of life as long as its under the right conditions, also compound results may vary depending on environmental composition. The A.I. aspect of the Black goo to me is to act as a catalyst to accelerate chemical reactions to either create life based on its environmental compositions or transform it by this I'm referring to in molecular biology, Transformation is the genetic alteration of a cell resulting from the direct uptake and incorporation of exogenous genetic material from its surroundings through the cell membrane(s). This is what the Black goo does either autonomously or through directed control or a kind of Directed Evolution, the particles A.I. runs on an Evolutionary Algorithm An EA uses mechanisms inspired by biological evolution, such as reproduction, mutation, recombination, and selection. Candidate solutions to the optimization problem play the role of individuals in a population, and the fitness function determines the quality of the solutions (see also loss function). Evolution of the population then takes place after the repeated application of the above operators.
Evolutionary algorithms often perform well approximating solutions to all types of problems because they ideally do not make any assumption about the underlying fitness landscape. Techniques from evolutionary algorithms applied to the modeling of biological evolution are generally limited to explorations of microevolutionary processes and planning models based upon cellular processes. In most real applications of EAs, computational complexity is a prohibiting factor. In fact, this computational complexity is due to fitness function evaluation. Fitness approximation is one of the solutions to overcome this difficulty. As to how the A.I. directly controls its organic components could be done through theory DNA is a protein machine, producing all the basic building blocks of cells and bodies, at its core DNA is merely a chemical bond linked to either organic or sometimes inorganic molecules, and what are chemical bonds held together with electrons (which is what chemistry is about the interaction of electrons and how their interactions affect the overall chemical composition or reaction) and what breaks these bonds which turn genes on and off, the movement of electrons and protons via various molecular carriers (enzymes, proteins, or nanoparticles) or in the case of the Black goo A.I. controlled nanoparticles that either turn genes on or off, Recombinant DNA, introducing new genes via CRISPR or adaptive mutations. The results differ depending on how the Black goo is used either autonomously or directed, acting autonomously means that the A.I. follows its own decision makings based on the environment its in , and how that environment will determine the final outcome of said lifeform(s) favoring genetic phenotypes that promote aggression, perhaps as a way to ensure survival further increasing adaptive mutations that would prove useful to the organism accelerating evolution far more quickly. The directed aspect involves putting the Black goo in the desired conditions to receive the desired results, based on the controlled environment the reason why David was probably more successful with a human body than the other remaining creatures on the planet is because the human body contains more potential results (autonomously or directed) from genetic material aspect, by this I’m referring to the “junk DNA” or noncoding DNA sequences are components of an organism's DNA that do not encode protein sequences. Some noncoding DNA is transcribed into functional non-coding RNA molecules (e.g. transfer RNA, ribosomal RNA, and regulatory RNAs). Other functions of noncoding DNA include the transcriptional and translational regulation of protein-coding sequences, scaffold attachment regions, origins of DNA replication, centromeres and telomeres. Pseudogene sequences appear to accumulate mutations more rapidly than coding sequences due to a loss of selective pressure.[27] This allows for the creation of mutant alleles that incorporate new functions that may be favored by natural selection; thus, pseudogenes can serve as raw material for evolution and can be considered "protogenes".This means that the Black goo can take full advantage of noncoding DNA, integrating new gene sequences not to mention the The average human has over 100 trillion microbes in and on their body, and many of the latest discoveries are challenging previously held ideas about good and bad bacteria . Bacteria has many novel traits, being able to survive in harsh environments all of this combined with David’s directed control over the Black goo during his experiments for the past 10 years would allow David to produce novel results such as the Neomorphs, Protomorph, and eventually the xenomorph. Concerning the biomechanical aspects of the xenomorph, David’s goal is to create “perfection” so therefore integrating biomechanics into his creation could show more refinement of his work, since David is on board the Covenant he now has access to better lab equipment, more “test subjects” (2000 humans to be exact), allow David to fully realize his creation, also David is an android that believes in creation and creating the “perfect organism” what better way to do this than by creating an organism that has both organic and mechanical aspects to it, plus there seems to be an inherent aspect of the Black goo to most of its life forms a kind of biomechanical aspect to it (Prometheus: Fire and Stone). Anyway those are my thoughts on the Black goo and I’m sorry if it got a bit long, but it was the only way for me to explain my theory let me know what y’all think, thanks.
Wow, what are your thoughts on the possibility of black goo being real? I watched a woman who claimed to have been super soldier and talked about this as a real thing. You seem to know a lot about this stuff
@@jolucas1376 Thanks one of the perks beening a Bio-engineer plus I've been studying this knid of stuff on my own since High school, sometimes I baffle my own teachers.
@@TheDaimon888 if you watch channel called deciphering my experience, episode SSP Roundtable-Penny Bradley-Veronica Bartolini , they talk about black goo being used in the military now, which sounds pretty crazy!
@@jolucas1376 ok could you gaive me a link?
Primordial soup theory is bunk. Peptide bonds don’t form spontaneously, but they break spontaneously in aqueous environment. Input of massive amounts of energy, i.e. lightning, would also be destructive and contribute to entropy. More recently, there has been some a minute observance of peptide bond formation in a laboratory setting, but a laboratory setting is unrealistic... You tweak the parameters until you get the result you want, but even then, the result was dismal.
I like both Prometheus and Covenant
Too bad some people will disagree with you.
me as well, i like the direction. can't wait for the next!
Cyber Horror Genocide I agree, I find it really interesting.
+Derrick Simmons
"Some people"
By what I'm understanding the mass majority of people who saw this movie loathed it, which I really didn't expect. Sure it had it's flaws, but what movie doesn't?
Yeah it seems taboo to say you actually enjoyed Covenant. I too want to see what happens next
AI in liquid form. Fascinating. It makes the Black Goo more believable because it seems no biochemistry is capable of the changes it induces. Fine with me, it's all fiction anyways. But if the changes are intelligently guided, it's an entirely different game altogether. I like that concept.
I am okay with it, honestly I figured the reason for the facehuggers as a preferred way for implantation (as apposed to the spores) is to control the black goo's reaction to the host so that the new life form goes in the direction intended and not some random direction.
I liked both of these prequel movies (especially covenant), I will acknowledge that they have flaws but I found them to be enjoyable.
Jambopaul The Gamer in Pyjamas same
Jambopaul The Gamer in Pyjamas same here. They can't put everything.
But here the tip! He left a message to "The Corporation" Maybe That's Why they want the alien!
Nothing wrong with liking them, especially if you can admit they're flawed.
More power to you ... I only wish I could have enjoyed them, but alas no... the movies and now my once Director hero just make make angry, in my mind I dont believe he actually directed the movies, he is actually missing and they got some imposter playing as Ridley.
Maybe it's because I'm a robot/cyborg nerd but I do like that explanation. It allows for a good amount of mystery and exploration there. Makes me very curious and want to know more.
Note: did they ever work out what the engineers were running from the first time they saw the hologram log? It would be strange to think they ran from black goo.
Theory: The alien at the beginning of Promethius had killed off others by allowing the black ooze to take them. He did this because he felt Earth or the ooze worth saving. The other engineers either wanted the ooze or Earth destroyed. The engineer in hypersleep was left because other engineers dared not approach the location.
The black goo being nanotechnology makes the most sense based on what it does and it reacting differently to every genome it comes into contact with. Calling it an AI is a bit of a stretch, intelligence implies an overall purpose or goal in what the goo is attempting to do but I don't see evidence of that.
they call it black goo, I call it Chemical X
As someone who loves the Alien franchise but loathes everything to do with Covenant, I think I figured out a way to make it better. Simply switch the movie from focusing on the crew of Covenant to David. Just hear me out, I'll explain what I imagine for this scenario.
The movie starts out with David's flashback, from assisting Shaw on Juggernaut, to nuking the Engineers and using Shaw for his experiments. This part of the movie could have more of the philosophical aspects of Prometheus, with David attempting to play god and create his perfect organism. It would also give us some clarification to how in god's name Ridley Scott intends shit like neomorphs and the black goo to work, along with how David did all he had up to this point. Eventually though, David would reach a brick wall, and need to have a trap set to lure in more humans for his experiments to continue.
There, the movie could switch to be more like Alien, putting David's philosophies and experiments to the test. The Covenant crew actually come, and now we see David taking his opportunity to get them. With there being more character building for David, there'd hopefully be a smarter crew to actually make it seem like he has a challenge, as opposed to a guy sticking his head in the facehugger egg because he asked nicely.
TL;DR, David being the focus of Covenant could've made it more interesting and smarter.
Also, sorry if this comment is out of place for the video.
im glad we finally know what it is
bio-mechanical substance made by the engineers - that's not too bad for the explaination
Now Everything makes sense.
cant believe this was cut out this would have improved it greatly imo
I heard something similar to this back in the day after Prometheus came out, that the goo was a programmable biological accelerant.
THE BLACK GOO IS FINALLY EXPLAINED!!! WOOOOOO!!!
Yes I can see that being the case. It is actually quite fitting! And does a lot to explain the Aliens physiology of the different creatures, an AI would react in that manner. Thanks
I say that David's experimentations with the xenomorph is more recreating than creating, the first Alien did have a many year old ship, and Covenant isn't likely to be that far back, so it was my belief that David's xenomorphs are practically artificial rather than the first xenos ever
That's just my though, I absolutely liked Covenant though the humans are just as stupid as in the first Alien movie and raises as much questions as Prometheus (which I say started the hate train), the xenomorphs were metal and practically played like Alien where conventional weapons weren't truly able to kill it, outsmarting it was the solution (though it could've been done better, at least have the aliens a bit smarter than to attack superior machines, which I also question)
I wonder if the Engineers created the black goo? What if it's something they discovered and started messing with it? Hmm. I like these ideas. I just wish that Covenant was a bit better at working it out in the film. You shouldn't leave any film with such fundamental questions outstanding. These are very basic to the story and need to be addressed.
These Hybrid Network videos keep being recommended to me. And every single one of them just makes me more and more annoyed by how all this information keeps coming out AFTER the movies release. Why couldn't these answers be given to us IN the movies? Why such rich lore outside the films? So many cut scenes, cut dialogue, scrapped world building moments. It makes no sense.
So the black goo is just like the gray goo that scientists fear will happen to nanotechnology.
that explains Ash's behaviour and fascination with the creature in Alien, like he's recognizing the great work of one of his own kind, he was trying to continue David's work of destroying humanity using the Alien
Thank you for this!!
hey, great video :) as always.....I just have an "off-topic" question. whats the music used in the video.
So I gave into watching the 2011 remake/prequel of John Carpenter's "The Thing," and boy that movie was soooo good despite the cg.
Once you've seen films as bad as Covenant, you can really appreciate films you used to think were worse than they are.
Maybe Ridley's next film will be so bad it will make me appreciate Covenant more.
what i don't understand is david was still working for the corporation yet hates human life yet involves himself in a Project under human supervision
One of the biggest questions/problems
Neither David or Shaw witnessed the creature attack the engineer, so how does David know about it? Equally, they didn't see the attack on the two scientists as they were alone and we only saw the result of one attack.
How did the xenomorph-like creature that was removed from Shaw become a massive face hugger.
These are elements neither character witnessed, so how would they know.
David didn't even see Shaw remove the alien from her womb - okay she may have told him about it but she still didn't see what it did to the engineer.
These details are missing, or we are supposed to assume that they found out in some unknown way.
They need sorting otherwise it becomes a big gap in Davids experiments.
AngelicusImmortus ship logs and recordings of events via sensors
Aurora Uplinks But how did he get ship logs about the creature that killed the engineer? Seems a bit of a stretch
Never understood how David could have made the xenomorphs, despite the fact that xenonorphs existed in AVP, long before David
You know I think Rigley should have went totally in this direction for Alien Covenant. Like, maybe no settlers, just David Shaw Engineers and the planet. Maybe half the movie could have been David and Shaw exploring the world and communicating with the engineers then David getting obsessed with creating the alien species and destroying the engineers planet or settlement. Then maybe towards the ending the settlers are arriving THEN you have the movie of covenent... Wdyt?
So the black goo is some form nanotechnology, which make sense in a way, which kinda explains why some Xenomorphs have that biomechanical look. It also kinda explains why synthetics like Ash and David believe that the xenomorphs are perfect, it's a blend of organic and synthetic life and the xenomorphs can experience something that synthetics wish they could: pure aggression at arrogant organics like humans.
It's fascinating that Ridley Scott really had an intellectually/philosophically compelling background to this 'space-horror' film series...
and for whatever reason this stuff was edited out of the final release (*it's hard to believe that Scott would have done this as he did prioritize filming it!)... thus, denigrating the version that we all saw in the theaters to some degree... which is frustrating as a true fan.
This would have made so much of a difference if it was in the film, it sure would have helped.
Whoa whoa whoa, chill it guys. The idea for the black goo being a AI is not to far fetched. Knowing that what the Engineers where capable of with technology, it wouldn't be very surprising that the black goo did turn out to be an AI.
Riddily and Cameron terrifying people about AI and robots for generations
Ridley Scott has a great reason for not including this HUGE plot twist .....he forgot. D'OH!
All this awesome material THAT WASN'T IN THE THEATRICAL RELEASE.
David is secretly working for the Marvel Cinematic Universe with Weyland Yutani in order to create symbiote suit for the new Venom movie.
Nanomachines, son.
IMO, the goo is designed to modify non-engineer individuals into a creature or a host for xenomorph. I assume this is based on the individuals physical condition and health. A sickly, diseased, or genetically flawed person would become a creature, as seen in Prometheus, while a health person becomes host for a xenomorph. In the case of the engineers, it is designed to destroy them in order to allow their DNA to become the building blocks of new races, as seen in Prometheus. So, the goo is, in a way, Aliens version of the Star Trek Genesis Device mentioned in ST2 and ST3.
Better than my theory of xenomorph urine...
I good with hearing additional details about the black goo. However I liked Prometheus and feel Alien: Covenant was a middle finger to me and anyone else who wanted to see where that storyline went.
After seeing multiple Alien movies in theaters (including both AvP films) I may not see the next one-if there is one.
I feel left out because I haven't seen this movie in theatres.
One big thing I took away from the series is why does the Covenant use the winged disc of Nibiru as their logo I also saw it in the first alien movie Above computer monitor. Perhaps the engineers are actually the Anunnaki if you're not familiar with Nibiru please look it up that's a story you'll never hear cuz it's true told by the Sumerians the first civilization on Earth that we know of. I'd really like to hear your thoughts on this and that's a story that would just be mind-blowing to make because it's true
the goo was CLEARLY alive when he dropped it on all the engineer people, but it was never explained. you see the goo moving around and picking where it wants to go, and then the same thing when the nodes that one dude steps on puts the spores in the air and then it infects him in the ear with the bloodburster, those spores move with meaning also.
Revolutionary Cinema Productions the pods on the ground were only active when they were touched or bothered otherwise they never reacted
The simple truth: Ridley Scott was deeply butthurt that most of the Alien lore follows the tiny bits introduced by James Cameron, so he retconed it into story that pulls back the tidbits he did while mutually excluding everything James Cameron added, which is Alien queen, life cycle, hive, etc... The Xenomorph in his new lore is not really a pinneacle of predatory evolution, but one a several possible iterations of the alien goo, which may continualy keep on ever changing.
Except...
...he forgot one thing... an icon can't be an icon if it changes on every iteration.
Video Thumbnail: David using the Black goo after hearing that Fox might stop the Alien Prequels.
but where is David explains his evil complex plans and goals to Venom snake in an awkward stare off jeep scene?
I've been saying that black goo was A.I. for years. My whole channel is devoted to Her.
"Nano Machines, Son!!!"
- Senator Armstrong
In Alien (1979) the foundation of the series which cannot be changed, states that the "pilot" was petrified, its flesh turned into stone, which takes 30,000 to 50,000 years. There is absolutely no way David created the Xenomorphs.
Yes- Yes, I like this explanation for the black goo.
he likened it to a.i . that doesn't mean that it's machine based. nano is just a smaller measurement.
I though of it as intelligent, but I didn't think "AI" was very relevant, because I suspected that the Engineers had transcended the distinction.
What about the organic spores then? Those were nano tech too? As in it altered the existing flora from the David's initial attack?
+Gene Starwind Probably
black goo = graphene oxide
Nanomachines?
Metal gggeeeaarrrrrrr.
Ridley has gone senile can we just all agree on this...
But how could he experiment on organics if he killed all animal life when he arrived?
You have to question what the point in making a pissing movie is when all the major plot points have to be explained off screen.....
Your content is so much better than comicbookcast2
I'd like to know why with all the experiments David had done why it didn't stink, you'd think when the crew first turned up they would smell something as there were body parts all over the table where Shaw was experimented on?
Goo just infect animal David says, but why theres fungus and spore??
I think its based on the Black Goo mentioned by UFO buffs and such.
Not a fan or hater of the new movies, but I do like this new lore. The Aliens have always been described as being kinda bio-engineered in appearance, which this makes a lot of sense. We're used to an evil AI that can spread from machine to machine in movies, but we're not used to this where the AI is organic.
I think once the Xenomorph cycle starts and the goo is no longer used, the AI part is more of the guiding hand of evolution that all creatures have. With us, it's more subtle and takes 1000's of years to change, but in the Xenomorphs it's evident in each generation. Being that it's organic base, it's gonna have less unity than machines, but far more than any animal.
Seems like a pretty good reasonable explanation to me. It makes sense, but given how important it is it should get explained IN the movie.
David is an AI... So the way he described the black goo or primordial substance having an algorithm is intrinsic to his nature. Maybe it did behave in certain patterns / algorithm. And ultimately it reacts to human genome more so than others.
Is there gona be a prequel to the black goo. To see how the black goo was made?
I don't think that black goo has an embedded AI. Cause if it did then David should've had no problem establishing some form of communication with it to get the results he wanted.
David may have said the goo has an AI in the hopes of getting W-T to send people to experiment with it while he sits back to see the results or so that he'd get more people to test his creations against.
Then again, if the Black Goo does possess an AI then perhaps the Engineers didn't create it, maybe it's an artifact from another long gone(?) civilization. Perhaps even their version of Grey Goo (imagine a flood of nanorobots disassembling everything around them to make more nanorobots).
Alien Covenant had stupid moments, but every scene with David was a blessing :O I cant wait for another alien movie its gettting really deep
Can we find the original video of david speaking
Whos Nick thanks mate
Guys, where can I get all that stuff: Alien Advent, deleted scenes etc.?
How can it be said that David created the xenomorph in these dairy videos - the xenomorph comes out of a human host, and there were no live human before the Covenant crew arrived, so at best David created the FACEHUGGER, after Shaw was killed. Which makes me think the plot of Alien: Covenant should've focused more on that, with David desperate to INTENTIONALLY lure the Covenant crew to Paradise in order to test out his Egg creation. Unless I'm wrong and David was actually the one who transmitted Shaw's hologram to them? Should've been more clear if it was. But David's sequence of events while experimenting with the black goo should've been made clear as day, it would've helped the plot and we could've tracked the evolution of the alien creation without having to look at dvd extras or guessing ourselves.
This still doesn't make any sense to me. In Prometheus the engineer ingested it and it broke him down molecularly. Shaw's boyfriend ingested a small bit and it slowly transformed him into a, who knows. When David released it on the engineers it killed and encased them. The black goo is just nonsensical to me. Also stepping on a spore and inhaling it straight up makes an alien?! I assumed the black goo was either engineered from the spores or the spores were the result of the environment being affected by David's attack. I honestly just think the black goo is a magical substance that furthers the plot.
all these explanation by David, where can i find the footage?
Forhad Shojol
20th century fox channel, look at the recent Covenant videos.
They dropped the Ball
Ridley Scott needs to figure out what people want to see
I feel like that black goo actually exists.
I absolutely Love Covenant. It's an awesome movie. People in the cinema were actually jumping out the seats! hahah :D First time I experienced that :D :D
I hope in future films they talk about who made the black goo.
The Engineers did.
Asura Actually they didn't. The people that made the engineers found the goo but even they didn't know who created it. The goo is very very old. The comics and books go into more detail than the movies.
Which comics and books are you referring to?
next aline movie needs more aliens and isolation
that is all and we get to see david too
can I just say..the Xenomorph is not in Covenant.
we see the Neomorph and Protomorph.
David did not create them as in Prometheus there is a huge mosaic or huge painting behind the huge head that shows a "xenomorph". so how could David have created it.
That most likely will be revealed in the next one if they do not stop it.
There's no such thing as a Protomorph dumbass. It's just a stupid fan made term. You think the directors and writers give a fuck about some made up word that fans use online? The Alien in Covenant is a Xenomorph. The end credits say "Neomorph/Xenomorph" when they name the actors who played as the Aliens, even the NECA action figures call the Aliens in this film "Xenomorphs". The Aliens look different because of redesign. They look different in every film. The mural in Prometheus was supposed to resemble a Deacon which is confirmed in The Furious Gods Making Prometheus. The Engineers probably created the Deacons, but the Xenomorphs were created by David. Retards these days. Smh.
Circle of the Tyrants
Sounds like you might need some more fibre in your diet.
www.alien-covenant.com/news/alien-covenant---the-protomorph-not-xenomorph
Steve Smith The mural in Prometheus is a Deacon dumbass. See the pointy head? www.alien-covenant.com/aliencovenant_uploads/main-qimg-0166e183747c5398d18f67bef5258379-c.jpg
The Aliens in the older films definitely did not have their heads looking like that. Also, that link you posted is some blog written by some nobody who made an account on that website. It doesn't prove anything. Ridley Scott confirms the Aliens being Xenomorphs in this article. www.digitaltrends.com/movies/ridley-scott-prometheus-impact-alien-covenant/
Sorry but I've never heard Ridley Scott use the term "Protomorph" ever. But I have heard him say "Xenomorph" plenty of times. Aliens don't have to look the exact same in every film. They look different in literally every film. The Aliens in James Cameron's Aliens have 3 fingers rather than 6 and have ridged heads rather than smooth heads. Are they different from the original Alien? No. They're the same thing. They look different because of redesign.
I love how you tell me to have a "civilized" debate yet you're telling me to go fuck myself and call me a complete cock. Lol. Kids with autism.
All strains are connected....Chemical A0-3959X.91-15 a.k.a. the "black goo" speeds up the evolutionary process with whatever it comes in contact with....the neomorph could've very well been a composite of various species found on the Engineer's home world, who's mechanism of propagation/fertilization was through aromatic spores/fungi, delivering its payload of oocytes parasitic organisms (neomorphs).......
I think Ridley Scott is a proper fucking wanker for absolutely and utterly destroying one of the best sci fi movie ever created .... I firmly believe now Alien 1979 was a complete fluke :(
RR Martin did the same thing for Game of Thrones when I came to the dragon glass.
alien covenant is AWESOME
UrboyCrazy shut up dumbass
Can someone explain to me why the engineer and his ship in the first Alien movie were thousands of years old? Especially seeing as the ship was carrying the alien eggs, and a proposed xenomorph busted out of the Engineers chest.
Those things took place probably when human civilization was primitive at best, going by the info the first movie gives us. So how could David have developed them if they were around way before there even was a David? The timelines don't fit, is Scott getting his own lore wrong here?
SuperSpasticNinja no one knows for sure but we r getting an explanation in the next movie
I'm still not sure why David killed Shaw, can somebody explain?
I thought maybe the black goo is like a GOD particle. Well , it doesn't just shape life it also creates new life.
Characters in General in Alien movies, should never be recurring. All should die off and new characters should be developed to show Alien Tenacity in live / die or extinction scenarios involving mankind.
so its pretty much the "grey goo" that scientist warn about in real life. a nano bot goo that can consume everything. except in the movie its alters life forms.
I have learned more about this universe through interviews, viral marketing, and deleted scenes than I have from watching both Prometheus and Covenant. That's terrible.
Try Holy Bible.
@@officialnarcissco4533From GENEsis to reGENEration, The Holy Bible is about DNA. In the end everybody gets an extreme DNA makeover. Adam's image will be "translated" into image of God (Christ) OR image of the Beast (A/C). The Seed War = A DNA War. That's why the Great Flood happened. And it will be like the Days of Noah again when Jesus returns in the end times.
Seems like they want to oppose humans and engineers developing their own kind of AIs.
So that explains the movement of the black goo when in aeroform, for example in the scene where Ledward gets infected with the "nano particles" :D
Reminds me of both the mutantgen from teenage mutant ninja turtles and the symbiot that created Venom and Carnage from Spider-Man.
When I found out Shaw died... I gave up on this shit. Such potential squashed.
Anywere we can watch this advent video ?!
David did not create the Xenomorphs. AvP is canon and according to that the Xenomorphs been around over 10,000 years.
In AvP video game 2010 the Xeno "home world" was found on predator's star maps.