The SURPRISING TRUTH behind On3's Gators Recruiting Rankings

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  • Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024

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  • @leonardmcdonald4767
    @leonardmcdonald4767 Год назад +29

    "OK, if their rankings are so accurate. "How when Chauncey Bowen was 4-star at Florida. But when he flipped to Georgia. He became a 5-star?

  • @mljrotag6343
    @mljrotag6343 Год назад +32

    So...if the commit to UGA then bump them materially. Got it.

  • @MrMaybachJizzle
    @MrMaybachJizzle Год назад +27

    On 3 is BS. They knew that everytime we (UF) get a good commit they drop their rankings. Alot of these universities pay for these recruits rankings . Its all politics in this stuff. To much favoritism.

    • @AARon-fe1mo
      @AARon-fe1mo Год назад +7

      Right? He says they evaluate based on how their senior year goes in high school but if that’s the case why are they dropping the rankings of players they haven’t watched play yet?

    • @dr_pinna543
      @dr_pinna543 Год назад

      @@AARon-fe1mo because of camps like elite 11.

    • @Savage-qk5fd
      @Savage-qk5fd Год назад

      @@dr_pinna543 thats only for qbs tho and wrs

    • @notusedexer
      @notusedexer Год назад

      Too

    • @trosper4676
      @trosper4676 Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/u55qj3IdE8M/видео.html

  • @dmaxsmith3992
    @dmaxsmith3992 Год назад +25

    UGA had 9 commits move up, some significantly. 🤨

    • @j.w.s.743
      @j.w.s.743 Год назад +3

      While Florida had as many go down hmmmm????

    • @lifewithkee9959
      @lifewithkee9959 Год назад +3

      We are done w On3 and their pay for ranking system 😤

    • @trosper4676
      @trosper4676 Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/u55qj3IdE8M/видео.html

  • @AARon-fe1mo
    @AARon-fe1mo Год назад +31

    There’s no bias, we just drop a players ranking when they commit to Florida because of stuff and things.

    • @conureron3792
      @conureron3792 Год назад +4

      There does seem to be a strong correlation here.

    • @steve7210
      @steve7210 Год назад

      Tissue?!

    • @Dk-qf1xr
      @Dk-qf1xr Год назад +2

      @@steve7210 Keep them for yourself

    • @lifewithkee9959
      @lifewithkee9959 Год назад +1

      @@steve7210 there's the exit, don't come back😎

    • @steve7210
      @steve7210 Год назад

      @@lifewithkee9959 Croc tears are the best 🤣

  • @patrickdupertuis4281
    @patrickdupertuis4281 Год назад +8

    The dude literally says if a recruit is unranked and gets an offer from a school AKA Georgia the they have to rank them… which means if they are a constantly very good recruit that hasn’t made a crazy improvement they have to bump them down. AKA DJ. Sounds like a good system. Bottom line is that rankings are now directly tied to NIL witch makes it very suspicious when a kid is committed to us for months and miraculously gets 140 spots better after flipping to Georgia.

    • @michaelrobinson1003
      @michaelrobinson1003 Год назад

      If they only projecting how high a player will be drafted in the NFL I think you see them give higher ratings to players on teams that will do well. Such as if two players are rated near equal, then the one whose team wi🎉ll be better gets the bump as that player has a better chance of being drafted by the pros. Thus, commit to Georgia, get a bump, commit to Florida, you drop. Still looks like team bias to me. Just saying...

    • @RJ-fe9pu
      @RJ-fe9pu Год назад

      FL historically has put tremendous numbers into the NFL one of the best at it in modern era of draft

  • @andrewapel3604
    @andrewapel3604 Год назад +9

    I can see Kirby's hand moving his mouth.

  • @ModernNorsemans_OnlyDrams
    @ModernNorsemans_OnlyDrams Год назад +13

    Literally said if DJ has a great senior season and Luke struggles he “could”, not would, jump Luke 😂. Yet we base it on their senior season lol. Aka bias opinion

  • @robertturner6567
    @robertturner6567 Год назад +13

    Ali, you are on fire with your interviews and connections!❤🔥👍🐊 We(GatorNation)love it! You're new to this but dang, your content is really really getting better than other Florida Gators Football streamers content. 👍🔥❤🐊

  • @LILQUONZO
    @LILQUONZO Год назад +6

    So basically if uga wants you we have to rank you high because they are more likely to get you to the nfl

  • @F_is_4_Fanatics
    @F_is_4_Fanatics Год назад +6

    10-10 on the interview though by Ali

  • @Kangu777
    @Kangu777 Год назад +7

    All of these rankings won’t matter when they get on campus we got the players who wanna be in Gainesville it’s all about developing the players period and the players gotta be coachable and have the will to be great

    • @uffootball
      @uffootball  Год назад +3

      Yep. We need to trust Napier’s evals.

  • @gregpace4676
    @gregpace4676 Год назад +9

    Fantastic show Ali, just when I think you can't get any better, you hit it out of the park. Really enjoyed Charles Power's insight into the ranking progress. We are basically asking him to see into the future (4 years) for every good high school football player in the US. It is interesting to see how players develop, Florida recently sent two 5 star running backs and two QBs packing. I have been researching 5 stars, and only half of them make it due to various reasons, grades, injury, off field trouble, etc. Napier seems to choose wisely when it comes to skill, culture/fit and family. Napier also seems to look for more young talent to develop, which is why he's not taking the "best" out of the portal quickly, his portal players are valuable assets to the team. Great job!

    • @weaponx2980
      @weaponx2980 Год назад

      That makes no sense Nobody is asking for him to see the future. We are saying that they’re dropping players when they commit to whatever school. Waller is a 5 star but you dropped him why? Based on what? He’s not playing football so you can’t say he looked bad. But bowens flipped to Ga and his ranking went up. Yea a five star on their site. These players don’t what on3 ask they drop them plain and simple. I don’t mess with on3. They’re bias as hell to certain schools. I’ve seen it year after year. I can understand if games are being played and your judging them off that or camps but they haven’t and you’re dropping players.

  • @ONTARIORESHARDMUSIC
    @ONTARIORESHARDMUSIC Год назад +4

    How can so many players drop and their season haven’t started yet?

  • @Savage-qk5fd
    @Savage-qk5fd Год назад +7

    He said if they are a negative outlier for a player they will fix it but waller ended up going even more down after their latest rankings, hmmmm.

    • @ericciaramella1984
      @ericciaramella1984 Год назад

      He will say one thing for one kid which makes absolutely no sense if you apply it to another kid he ranks. He's an idiot and doesn't know what to say to make it stop so it only gets worse when he tries to justify his obvious bias.

    • @trosper4676
      @trosper4676 Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/u55qj3IdE8M/видео.html

  • @jeremycarpenter5550
    @jeremycarpenter5550 Год назад +11

    On 3 sucks they don't know there butts from the ground. 😂

  • @F_is_4_Fanatics
    @F_is_4_Fanatics Год назад +7

    Looking to Right
    Looking to the right and down while speaking signifies selfdoubt, whereas looking right and straight/up signifies lying. Looking to the right activates imagination and left activates memory. with the camera flipping the image as it should he sure is looking to the right alot!

  • @Gatorlover7
    @Gatorlover7 Год назад +3

    He made DJ sound like how AR was last year 😭

  • @ModernNorsemans_OnlyDrams
    @ModernNorsemans_OnlyDrams Год назад +5

    Nope not buying it, too many “coincidences” and vagueness while talking in circles. Ruining kids announcements on top of sketchiness.

  • @robertturner6567
    @robertturner6567 Год назад +3

    This On3 representative has certainty explained On3's point of view. Great stuff Ali!👍❤🔥🐊

  • @GatorJake
    @GatorJake Год назад +4

    Thanks, Ali. I still think he's a homer for Georgia. He basically said if a kid is going to a program that has a habit of putting guys in the league, they'll boost that guy's ranking. So for us, we need to work to get more guys in the league in the first round or two.

    • @Iwollf74
      @Iwollf74 Год назад

      Since 2010 Florida has had the 4th most drafted players with 75 and 15 first rounders.

    • @trosper4676
      @trosper4676 Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/u55qj3IdE8M/видео.html

  • @andrewsteele604
    @andrewsteele604 Год назад +4

    Seems like a lot of lip service from Charles Power. He sounds suspiciously defensive.

  • @adman4you
    @adman4you Год назад +1

    Great job getting this interview Ali!👏🐊 I always thought that the ratings services were evaluating based on the players’ body of work in HS and never thought it would be based on their “projections”. I would think their level of competition and/or their performance in the all-star camps should carry more weight. So they get a hypothetical bump from one team to another ie: UGA vs UF because they put guys in the league? Well, we have a good track record of putting guys in the league too. I don’t buy their analysis nor do I trust them when the other ratings services evaluations are so different. It’s ok to be an outlier among the services but when players are hurt in this NIL era when they choose one institution over another, I have a problem with that. My subscription with ON3 will not be renewed. Once agin Ali, great job!

  • @robertturner6567
    @robertturner6567 Год назад +5

    Ali put On3 on the spot! She didn't hold back. 👍 Go Gators!🐊

    • @RJ-fe9pu
      @RJ-fe9pu Год назад

      Should have been on with Shelton Shannon Terry probably would have broke his pc

    • @Drillpink
      @Drillpink Год назад +1

      Right,unlike Hightop

    • @Drillpink
      @Drillpink Год назад

      @@RJ-fe9pu I was responding to the she didn't hold back comment what are talking about???

    • @Drillpink
      @Drillpink Год назад

      @@RJ-fe9pu In other words Shelton let they guy from on3 owned the interview

    • @RJ-fe9pu
      @RJ-fe9pu Год назад

      @@Drillpink crossed wires I was under the impression response was to something else

  • @barrone71
    @barrone71 Год назад +4

    This dude is stuttering and seems like he’s being interrogated by the FBI within the first 15 seconds lol

  • @williamfisher866
    @williamfisher866 Год назад +3

    UF has no problem the way recruits are ranked. Its when they commit to UF and drop or flip to other schools and sky rocket. Chauncey Bowens moved up 140 spots. And chiles dropped. Makes no sense.

  • @03wesday
    @03wesday Год назад +4

    And no Ali I don’t this their getting it right not even close. How can players move up or down without any football being played and little to 0 camps going on

  • @dr_pinna543
    @dr_pinna543 Год назад +7

    Seems fair. Has a point where he mentioned UF recruits were ranked really high at the end of their senior season. On3 did bump Jakeem over Cormani and had Eugene Wilson the highest compared to the other services. If you want to believe a particular narrative so be it.

    • @dr_pinna543
      @dr_pinna543 Год назад +1

      Kendal Jackson, the new DL/DE recruit, is a 4 star with ON3 and a 3 star with 247. Almost a 100 spot difference as far as national rankings. I can see how some would wonder why 247 has Jamonta Walker as a 5 star, but ON3 has him as a 3 star. I believe that low ranking is because he's undersized for the DE/edge position. ON3 sees him as a linebacker instead, hence the current low ranking because they consider him to be playing out of position. Let's revisit this splitting of hairs after the Under Armour bowl game when the scouting process is complete.

  • @ericciaramella1984
    @ericciaramella1984 Год назад +3

    Checkout how accurate this dude is when listing players height and weight, one of his main criteria in ranking players, fletcher westphal on3 list him as 6'7" 295. Hes actually 6'8" 335. So Charles why if measurables are used in ranking are you lying about a kid who according to his father hasnt been under 300lbs since he was 14. Its because Charles is lying and hes been caught this all just backtracking and covering up for his stupid ass blantantly biased rankings being called out.

  • @jfgibbons7982
    @jfgibbons7982 Год назад +2

    Only one eval matters, Gator coaches and staff! CBN has discussed this aspect of the operation in detail, his process is data driven, measurables, production and character. This guy, on3, 247 , et al are hot air! Noise! If this staff says we want this kid then I’m confident he can play! These guys are after clicks! Eye balls = $……. Ali, your interviews are awesome, keep bringing guys in like the recent OT commit. Would rather get to hear from them than this wanna be! Go Gators!

  • @conureron3792
    @conureron3792 Год назад +1

    Good interview. Timely! Need to hear about the controversy and “why”.

  • @Chasing72
    @Chasing72 Год назад +1

    This is the first episode of Ali’s that I haven’t watched all the way through. On3 started off using clickbait headlines to get eyeballs to their site. They’ve lowered UF commit’s ratings and boosted those who commit to UGa. His explanations didn’t impress me.

  • @MrMaybachJizzle
    @MrMaybachJizzle Год назад +9

    @ali_peek dont belive this dude. He's trying to save grace.

    • @nickybutch3
      @nickybutch3 Год назад

      What’s with all the comments getting these phrases wrong

    • @dr_pinna543
      @dr_pinna543 Год назад

      @@nickybutch3 can't stand when people use loose for lose.

  • @torrencel.2662
    @torrencel.2662 Год назад +1

    Get'em Ali! 😂 Atleast they came on and attempted to explain the inconsistency in rankings. I just always think that how can they fluctuate so much when there isn't anything going on?!! I get that it's a business but wow.

  • @treysimpson7874
    @treysimpson7874 Год назад

    Great job getting Charles Power on for the interview.

  • @aaronjoyner711
    @aaronjoyner711 Год назад +1

    No one has given any explanation as to why there are massive drops if a player commits to Florida and massive jumps if they flip to another school. Cut the BS, like the CEO of On3 said, there are investments at play and it's obvious that is the real factor into these rankings.

  • @michaelfiorelli5248
    @michaelfiorelli5248 Год назад

    My sister & I were arguing about all THIS before I saw your show Ali! Fantastic again! Girl you are on point! I have better clarity in this now. We forget these kids have 1 more yr of h s. ball. Do YOU feel better now as well? Great show, great work!! Go Gators!,🐊🐊

  • @fred9044
    @fred9044 Год назад +3

    On3 can say whatever they want I know there full of toe jam. Those guys wouldn't know football if it hit them in the head!! 😂

  • @Savage-qk5fd
    @Savage-qk5fd Год назад

    Ngl after the watching the video i understand what on3 does and the ranking process. I don't think there is really any or very little bias just some rankings they have are questionable like Wallers. Great video though, appreciate you for getting him to come and talk about it ranking process, gave amazing insight into it. Hope gators still end up with a top 5 class.

  • @tc4878
    @tc4878 Год назад +1

    Good questions

  • @nicholasm3045
    @nicholasm3045 Год назад

    Charles has long as your not hating on Florida I’m good. Don’t be bias and I want have to visit you. This is all!

  • @ImHim-bp6ge
    @ImHim-bp6ge Год назад +1

    So how goes Chiles drop when he’s not even playing? Or did I miss something

  • @cliffordabernathy3158
    @cliffordabernathy3158 Год назад

    What about Bowman rankings sky rocketed when he flipped to GA?????

  • @brandonbaker6629
    @brandonbaker6629 Год назад +1

    This honestly helps for people who listened. Its based off NFL projections in the end. Thats why development matters.

    • @ericciaramella1984
      @ericciaramella1984 Год назад +1

      We all know every single 5 star ever enrolled in Georgia has been a 1st round pick. And every single 4 star at Georgia has been drafted. Oh wait.

  • @RJ-fe9pu
    @RJ-fe9pu Год назад +1

    On3 is not helping themselves.. It would have been better just to ignore the noise or say yes their is some bias baked into the process

  • @ZachDefoor
    @ZachDefoor Год назад +1

    I commented as soon as he started talking and imagine that I was right

  • @williamfisher866
    @williamfisher866 Год назад +3

    This guys BS about the Luke vs DJ is elite. He is fumbling over his words. He doesnt believe what he is saying. I have seen Lukes tape. He is not that good. He will be a bust.

  • @SyntheticDividend
    @SyntheticDividend Год назад

    Dont see how you can rate them on what you think future performance would be when OF and DC change all the time. Should be only what the kids brings from high school. If anything it causes the better school to have to pay more for the kids.

  • @lifewithkee9959
    @lifewithkee9959 Год назад +2

    Too many recruits dipped for it not to be biases. Couple that with the previous On3 sus moves...GatorNation should just stop supporting On3

    • @trosper4676
      @trosper4676 Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/u55qj3IdE8M/видео.html

  • @ImHim-bp6ge
    @ImHim-bp6ge Год назад +1

    At the end of the day, games are won and lost on the field! 🐊🐊🐊

  • @jeffhiner617
    @jeffhiner617 Год назад +2

    Sounds like Bs to me, i wish u would have asked him about Chauncey Bowens jumping 140 spots as soon as he goes to Ga

    • @uffootball
      @uffootball  Год назад +1

      I would have but I was told by someone I trust in the industry (who doesn’t work for On3) that that was going to happen regardless of where he committed.

    • @williamfisher866
      @williamfisher866 Год назад +2

      ​@@uffootballjust a coincidence. Multiple times.

  • @therehastobesomethingmoore
    @therehastobesomethingmoore Год назад

    How does On3 downgrade lots of Gator recruits when they didn’t play one down of football ?
    Their rating system is a sham. They are in the bag for Georgia.

  • @charlesdavid1304
    @charlesdavid1304 Год назад +3

    This guy is nervous 😅

  • @realtalkrealbeer8311
    @realtalkrealbeer8311 Год назад

    So all he said is, if they go to Uga they will be higher. Kirby got that dude on lockdown.

  • @adamhawkins3513
    @adamhawkins3513 Год назад

    I guarantee waller went to UGA he'd be a high 4 star. Daniels and Bowens are way closer in talent than farther apart...

  • @springerbrady
    @springerbrady Год назад

    Tons of respect gained Ali! GREAT interview skills here & asking the tough questions! Many of the answers by Charles were not convincing & he never really would answer the question. I normally do NOT buy into the recruiting swings based on commits. But there just seems to be too many coincidences lately, plays the players mentioning it too.

  • @iangarcia9559
    @iangarcia9559 Год назад

    Also I'd like to add , these ranking publications like on3 , 247, all of them are making money from high-school kids , from their efforts. What exactly are they being paid for? Their little pretend expertise? I'm sure most of us on this site have watched football for decades, and some even played football. They seriously don't know anymore than we know yet they're exploiting these young men, making money off of their work. And nowadays with NIL they heavily influence these young men's and families future, and what starting point they get on their NFL draft positions. Charles has a lot of power , who's watching this guy, making sure he's not corrupt?

  • @larryshank7933
    @larryshank7933 Год назад

    They really just came onto the scene a couple years ago. I do believe they are pretty low balling players.

  • @billyb35
    @billyb35 Год назад +1

    There's literally no point doing summer rankings.

  • @chompin4life841
    @chompin4life841 Год назад +1

    On3 trying to spin this like they work at the White House

  • @barrone71
    @barrone71 Год назад +1

    “We are absolutely wrong sometimes”………. The only true statement this goober made.

  • @drsybohful
    @drsybohful Год назад +1

    On3 out here trying to do damage control. Why are all GA recruits moving up? That C. Bowens move opened a lot of eyes. 👀 It might be time for me to cancel my subscription. Why pay for biased rankings?

  • @kendaves9295
    @kendaves9295 Год назад +1

    So .. How do they drop in rankings without games played?? $$$ maybe??? It's highly Bias ... Bull.... ish .. Stumbling over his own words.

  • @RyanCalebSmith
    @RyanCalebSmith Год назад +2

    They just put it out there based on what they see on the field. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Greedy17
    @Greedy17 Год назад +2

    Def bias!!! 🐊🐊🐊

  • @jeremycarpenter5550
    @jeremycarpenter5550 Год назад +8

    He is lying look at his face .he has the tell tell signs clearing his throat yeah .

  • @thegatorstud
    @thegatorstud Год назад

    Thank you for confirming what we all thought. On3 is still a steamy pile of bantha fodder

  • @briangardner1361
    @briangardner1361 Год назад +1

    🔥 off the press

  • @JonathanReed1970
    @JonathanReed1970 Год назад

    Ali...go watch your boy TJ interview with Charles. He couldn't praise Luke enough with his potential. As for your interview, Charles did everything he could to calm the uf fanbase about how DJ is good, not great. I love it Ali....this video and the tears from you all were tremendous! Great job. I mean ask next time how Norvell offered Luke when he was unranked and now he is top 3 qb in the country!!! But but but Norvell can't recruit HS lmao

  • @michaeldixon4505
    @michaeldixon4505 Год назад

    So if they were linebackers they would be 5 stars

  • @lawrencecheshire6012
    @lawrencecheshire6012 Год назад

    So basically he's saying waller is screwed bc he's short lol. No bump for him even if he is all state bc of his measurables. That's funny. Nerds dnt understand football. He knows he is going to play off ball LB as well and he's not even listed as an edge so he doesn't HAVE TO BE 6"4 to be successful in college or the NFL. Whatever

  • @stevebeckerman2335
    @stevebeckerman2335 Год назад +1

    I just think it's crap to drop a kid 60 or 70 spots over a camp and with nil there now messing with kids earning potential

  • @TTTfloridagators
    @TTTfloridagators Год назад

    So Waller and amaris are definitely not moveing up lol

  • @dbr7083
    @dbr7083 Год назад +1

    this guy just talked in circles and doesn't explain the favoritism

  • @realflaman
    @realflaman Год назад +1

    This wasn't a interview to get to the truth, it was like a chat with a buddy. Hahahahaha waste of time. Harder Questions should have been asked instead of making a fanbase appear to be unreasonable

  • @swampyak
    @swampyak Год назад +1

    I really don't care how they rank players as long as our coaches rank them correctly and get what they need. On3 may or May not be biased, Chad Simmons is a low life either way. He needs to be out of the industry altogether.

  • @jamesmarschalk5564
    @jamesmarschalk5564 Год назад

    My boots weren't tall enough and my socks got all soggy from the sh%$

  • @acct5910
    @acct5910 Год назад +1

    I know you need clicks but don’t give these clowns the press.

  • @busigator96
    @busigator96 Год назад

    This interview is not compelling evidence for me, sorry. The only thing consist here are the “likes” and “ums”.

  • @MrMtg83
    @MrMtg83 Год назад +2

    You talking in circles. Which we call BS

  • @jayt7393
    @jayt7393 Год назад +1

    On3 always drop are players its ridiculous

  • @joek1121
    @joek1121 Год назад +1

    Thank you, Ali! Respect for Charles coming on and being transparent.

  • @notusedexer
    @notusedexer Год назад

    Why should i trust him?

  • @jonny455
    @jonny455 Год назад +4

    On3 is trash shouldn’t even count in The composite

  • @stevebeckerman2335
    @stevebeckerman2335 Год назад

    Ali I love ur show and am greatful for all you do but this guy is driving me nuts

  • @WaterMiLoan
    @WaterMiLoan Год назад +2

    lmao. this guy is a joke. she held back

  • @Jay-to2cn
    @Jay-to2cn Год назад

    Stars don't mean 🤫🤫🤫

  • @tooreal4382
    @tooreal4382 Год назад

    smh… Go Gators

  • @tomgore9696
    @tomgore9696 Год назад +1

    Love your work Ali, but that guy gives a counter example or two in the face of an avalanche of what looks like serial dirty dealing or general incompetence. I'm not buying it. Ali, yes. On3, no.

  • @jeremycarpenter5550
    @jeremycarpenter5550 Год назад +1

    There wrong half the time to .

  • @antoniowatkins7823
    @antoniowatkins7823 Год назад

    They are not getting it right 😒

  • @thomasmoss1066
    @thomasmoss1066 Год назад

    🐶3

  • @axreacts
    @axreacts Год назад +2

    This guy is all hot air. On3 is a joke and totally bias

  • @c890158
    @c890158 Год назад +4

    I don’t believe him

  • @jeremycarpenter5550
    @jeremycarpenter5550 Год назад +4

    And he is a liar .

  • @carterfields3883
    @carterfields3883 Год назад +2

    The arrogance of this guy lol, thinks his evaluation is better than every other site and multiple big time college coaches. SMH.

  • @jerredcurtin
    @jerredcurtin Год назад

    Gator fans crying over rankings is hilarious COPE y’all about to have 3 years in a row of 6 wins or less

  • @ryandilich13
    @ryandilich13 Год назад +1

    Serious joke