Unless it's 5 1sts and 3 2nds. Quarterback is not the only position that can be a bust in the 1st round just the most magnified but if the Patriots hit at qb they are set for the next 10-15 years and I wouldn't trade back even if half those picks hit because you have to pay them with no chance of contending without a qb. I have no idea how come people people who have watched the Jets, Dolphins, and Bills just flat out suck the past 25 years even with all the top 10 draft picks that they have had😂😂😂
Mahomes would not have done well if he was forced to start his Rookie season. He had the POTENTIAL to completely BUST. Hoge's assessment was DEAD accurate....
WHAAA?? Jake Locker 23% ???? Jake Lockers final season in college he threw for 17 TD's 9 INTS, 2265 yards at 55% passing. How in the heck is Maye similar to him????
Stop with the trade down stuff. Pats need a long-term QB. Take them at 3 and move on. If you drop down to 11. You miss out on the top 3 WR and the top tackles. You can get a TE in rounds 5-7. I'd rather have another top corner to air with Gonzalez. I like the kid from BC! Enough with Merrill Hodge. He also missed on Justin Herbert and Jordan Love! Nobody knows. That's what makes the draft exciting.💯
😂😂😂you think yall would learn watching the Jets draft bust after bust. Got news for you it's not the QB that was a bust but the team around him that sucked. 1 player out of 11 can only do so much. So by all means follow the Jets route and take the rookie QB and watch him look like shit right before your eyes all year and then when he gets benched for Brissett because all the fans are crying that this guy sucks. Now your in the 2025 draft sitting top 10 again with a back up journal and a young bust. Or you could play this like the Texans the smart way the way the 49ers did it. You build the team first you know those other positions like the offensive lineman to block for the QB. Yeah you need one of those their are several legit franchise left tackles in this draft, you need a true outside wr, because all you have is slot guys. Their are plenty of those in this draft too. Now imagine taking a QB that has nothing around him that will fail because he has nothing around him. In doing so miss out on the new franchise left tackle and the new WR1. Only to be right back at the top of the draft next year with all the same problems because the young QB you took at 3 last year that ended up busting because of the team around him. Sound like the Jets with Darnold and Wilson? Or you could take the smart route trade down with Minnesota get the holes on your offense filled with true talent that can lift the play of your journman QB and be in a place to either draft or trade up a few picks to take your QB of the future in 2025 now that you have your franchise piece in place. Imagine having your pieces in place for next year's draft when a one Sheduar Sanders son of HOF CB Dion Sanders is set to come out. Not only is he the son of a HOF player but he also showed enough to be mentored personally by the goat himself Tom Brady. To me it's a no brainer trade down build up and take Sheduar next year.
If Washington snags Maye I'm kinda hoping we pull a juke and take McCarthy. If the Pats arent sold on McCarthy and Maye is off the board then lets trade back with the Vikings and load up on offense. Bowers, Adonai Mitchell, Rice!!!!!! (Jerry Rice son). Those could be our first 3 picks (two first rounders and second round)
@@DrigoArtsFXit’s all about risk and reward my friend. Gotta take some risks if we wanna move forward and Brenden Rice may not be his dad but he is definitely learning from arguably the greatest WR ever. That’s a huge advantage. Also not all breakout stars come in the first two rounds as history has shown. Like I said, all about risk and reward.
@@TheWasifI doubt all three would be on the field at the same time at any point this year (unless we are blowing out a team and want to get them some reps) Bowers could possibly be the starter eventually but I’m betting he’ll be TE2 to start. Mitchell and Rice will not be taking over Bourne or KJ either. Between Mitch and Rice, only one of them is going to be WR3. I also like the way this sounds (loading our offense) but I think we end up taking a QB realistically.
@@13bangbang16 no it’s not the same lol there’s evidence with the other prospects because they were actually allowed to throw the ball unlike JJ McCarthy there’s a difference…
@@455zzz there is zero evidence with the others. Thats my point is that yours is entirely irrelevant. If you want to go off who has done anything than McCarthy is the only one who is a winner. He won a championship, the other 3 have not….JJ also won championships starting at the lowest level, threw high school and in college. That also matters, and he is the only one that’s done that. He can throw, has a strong arm and is probably the most accurate qb in the draft. Now you sound dumb saying they won’t let him throw. They had a real football team that ran the ball, and protected the ball. News flash it’s what the Pats are trying to replicate. AT the end of the day not a single one of these guys has done anything to prove or show they will work in the NFL. They could realistically all end up busts. The reality is that 1 or two will end up long term franchise qb’s. That also doesn’t mean it’s going to be 1 or two if the first 3. Could be Bo Nix and Penix you never know…..
@@13bangbang16 you never know that is true but winning college championships has no bearing on how good a QB will be in the NFL because football is the ultimate team sport it’s just my opinion of JJ McCarthy is that he has a decent arm not strong his mobility is decent but he’s just “ok” and I’m 100% positive my pats don’t want that we could’ve kept Mac jones if that was the case..
Interesting, the one guest was Hodge, the only analyst that doesn’t like D. Maye. His history, people should fact check his history, LOL, it can be googled easily. He said J. Herbert wasn’t an NFL QB and was inconsistent and said that J. Love was no better than a 6th round pick.of course M. Hodge grew up in Idaho, near Seattle, Las Vegas and Denver, not sure what team he loves but all 3 need a QB, it would probably be great for him if Maye drops in the draft. I loved when hodge said that Maye was stiff and not mobile in February, that can be Googled as well, I couldn’t stop laughing. His last review he said a QB should never be a playmaker…Ummmmm Whaaaaaat?, please se Mahomes!
It's going to be... we have no damned idea. But expect two weeks of amazing, genuflecting, desk-thumping, acrobatic takes on what might-maybe-no, wait, surely-will happen. Ah, what drives us.
Draft McCarthy if you want a top 3 pick the next 3 years. He could be a bridge to the pats franchise QB in 2027. 😂 I do agree though with at least 4 firsts before trading down
No draft pick has ever brought that in return they are not getting that and they wouldn't even ask because it's so far beyond logical maybe for the first overall pick in this year's class could bring that in but sure as he'll not the 3rd. Yall are going to be mad as hell on draft night when your front office ignores all you fans that don't have a clue how to build a winner or run a franchise make the smart move and trade down to take extra assets in this year's and possibly next year's draft, and use those assets to build out the roster to make it into a roster that will be ready yo take a rookie QB next year. Because regardless of who you take if you take a QB at 3 you will be right back at the top of the draft next year. In virtually the same spot only difference is that you will have a mental broken young qb that has already been labeled as a dissapoinmwnt and bust because he couldn't magically turn your your crap team into gold. Before you take a rookie QB go get yourselves a franchise left tackle make sure that you have at least average level lineman across the rest of the line anyone less than average with a rookie qb is going to stand out that much more. Then if you trade with the logical choice in Minnesota you would not only be able to get your franchise left tackle at 11 but would also have pick number 23 to take a true number 1 WR. With those 2 in place ride it out with Brissett this year and set yourself up to take the QB next year a guy like sheduar Sanders son of a HOF and being mentored by the goat. Brady taking an interest and investing in him should be music to Patriot fans ears. You are I n perfect place to be competitive by 2025 and beyond with all young blue chip players in key areas on offense all on rookie deals you can attack free agency in mass force on the defensive side of the ball this next off-season add sheduar in the draft and be right back to being a powerhouse in the AFC. Or you can take a QB this year and move nowere but in circles.
Joel klatt who is the best college QB analyst out there, Let’s be honest guys. Has Drake going #2 for a reason. He’s looking at it in a 10 year window. Believe Drake will end up being the best QB and very similar to Josh Allen. I really hope Washington does take Jaden. At first I wanted Jaden but now I really want Drake.
In my opinion Williams is going to be the biggest let down I a long time. Daniels is RG3 at best if he's lucky. JJ is Zack Wilson 2.0 Drake Maye had the least amount of talent around him. He could have bailed on his college but he stayed and that shows the kids loyalty. He's built to be a NFL QB 6'4" 225 lbs and athletic from a athletic family. He's 22 years old he's going to fill out and get bigger he's the most accurate passer over the middle. Fix his footwork and arm slot and that kids going to be special for quite a while. He can scramble but needs to learn to get down.
Agreed. Whenever there’s a “generational” class with 4-5 first rounders, it seems like only one if not maybe 2 is elite, one is okay, and the rest are busts. Situation matters but I can see a world where Williams is alright but doesn’t live up to his hype, and either Maye and/or JJ are around the top 7 of qbs.
MCCARTHY BEAUTIFUL FOOTWORK AND ACCURATE TOO!! DONT BELIEVE TO PEOPLE MCCARTHY IS NOT MAC JONES!! THEY ARE DIFFERENT MOVES!! MAC JONES DONT HAVE FOOTWORK!! HE CANT RUN!! BUT JJ MCCARTHY HAVE EXCELLENT MOBILITY HE CAN RUN!! DONT BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE SAYING HIS BECOME MAC JONES THATS RIDICULOUS!!
None of the above. The only thing the Patriots would accomplish by drafting a rookie QB at #3 is ruin an otherwise great and promising prospect. Ha, I love the delusion around New England thinking they still have a team that befits a rookie QB. You have no pass protection. You have a WR room full of 3rd option WR. You don't have a true great or legit #1 WR. Any of the prospects they take is going to struggle. These guys are fucking nuts I'm all for supporting your team but what they are talking g is straight delusional. 4 firsts that has never been traded for not even for a number 1 overall selection. Patriot fans be glad these fools aren't in your front office. Your team would never get out of the dumpster fire. The best thing you can do at 3 is either take the sure thing in a true number 1 wr in Marvin Harrison Jr. Doesn't matter who is throwing the ball when you have a guy like that. He is going to get his. The other is trade the pick to Minnesota get the 2 firsts this year and the extra first next year. Use the pick at 11 to get a true legit franchise left tackle. Then use 23 to nab a true number 1 WR. A rookie QB is not going to do anything with the team he has around him. Build the team first then add the QB next year as the final piece. 2025 draft Sheduar Sanders. Mentored by Patriot legend Tom Brady.
Tom I'm just praying the team isn't listening to you 😂. You take the QB that falls to you Tom. They don't have a QB. Brissett is the bridge QB Tom. Trading down shows they don't have the balls to take a risk Tom. It's the easy way out.
Giardi is the ONLY Patriots reporter I now trust. The rest of you are all just clowns good for entertainment. GIARDI was the ONLY one who had the balls to land something like Stink, Stank and Stunk. He was the ONLY one being true to what he saw and reporting it without bias and a@@kissing. He owned it too. He didn’t take it back. That’s what demands respect. Honest, unbiased reporting even when the news sucks and maybe you’ll lose some access to the coach or players. But at least you’re reporting what is, not what sponsors and the team want you to say … “Thorton, man he looks good, he caught a pass on the sideline today.” “Boy that N’keal Harry, what a fantastic, amazing, hall of fame catch he made today.” “Wow, I can tell this is the year he’s going to break out.”
Mayo said the decision is gonna be with everyone on the same page, with that being said. YOU CANNOT TELL ME THAT ALL THE COACHES INVOLVED IN THE DECISION IS GONNA AGREE THAT MCCARTHY IS A GOOD PICK AT 3 like a blind man sees that’s a reach and the wrong fit for the team
These guys have been milking the draft speculation for two months- it’s not complicated for New England - they don’t have a QB they’re sitting at number 3 in the draft with a good selection of College QBs. Next years class of QBs is not good. Draft Maye or Daniels and. Rebuild.
That's Jets logic for you we dont have a tackle or main wr(just a bunch of slot guys and 3rd options)and don't boast an elite run game. Let's take a rookie QB that needs those things in place without those things in place. Then lets put the expectation on tjis one guy with nothing around him to turn the whole franchise into a winner overnight. It's not that hard that's why the Jets drafted Darnold and 3 years later they are taking Zack Wilson again at pick number 3. Again didn't build the roster or team around the qb to give the rookie any hope for success and then blame the rookie qb for not being able to turn crap into gold. Taking Drake Maye, Jaden Daniels, JJ McCarthy, or even Caleb Williams, none of them would look good playing for the patriots. Why because the team around them sucks. Look at the 49ers with a 7th round QB taking them to the superbowl how does that work? Because you built the team around the QB. Not taking anything away from the goat because that's what he is, but Tom Brady had as much success and won as many superbowls as he did because he kept his salary down understanding the importance of the players around him being high caliber as being the key to success. Trust me your best move is trading down and either taking a developmental project to sit for a year and learn or just wait for 2025 which no it is not as deep at the QB position but all that means is that there won't be 6 qbs being talked about as first round picks. Trust me when I say that next years class might have the best prospect of the last few years coming out. That man is Sheduar Sanders, son of HOF CB Dion Sanders and is being mentored by your franchise legend and all time goat in Tom Brady. Brady is not the type to get involved with a young QB because of who his dad is Brady saw something in Sheduar that told him he had massive potential. That's the only reason Brady would work with him and guid him. If it was me I would take a prospect with HOF genetics that's been mentored by the greatest QB of all time. Over any prospect this year Trust me my team needs a QB and I was beyond bummed when Sheduar didn't declare this year because I think 5 years down the line he will be better than anyone in this year's class assuming he walks into a situation we're the other pieces are in place.
God imagine being in the same division as the Jets. As a Patriots fan you have watched the Jets make the same mistake time and time again taking a QB high in the draft and not having a team around them that was Sam Darnold, that was Zack Wilson. How did that work for them. You would think that watching a team make the same mistake over and over that neither the team or their fans would want to see their team make the same mistakes. If the Patriots take a QB at 3 they will do nothing but ruin the prospect. You are not, I repeat you are not in any position to just take a rookie QB and suddenly your contending again you have a bad team. You have no pass protection up front you have a WR room full of slot or 3rd option guys you lack any real recieving threat on the outside. So you can't block for him and you don't have a true threat target to throw to, sounds a lot like what Sam Darnold and Zack Wilson walked into. You would have though it obvious watching the Texans last year that the way to build a team through the draft is by setting up the team around the QB first and then adding the QB. Turnedthe Texans from #2 overall pick to winning a playoff game. Not because they took a rookie QB, but because they built the offense and had all the pieces in place around the QB. Their is the difference only time will tell if your front office is as dumb as these clowns.
You quarterback in a fishbowl in New England. You gotta have real mental toughness and mental stability. The fact is Maye never came close to having the kind of pressure McCarthy was under these past 2 yrs. Same with Daniels. Pats should take McCarthy, if he is gone, they should trade the pick to the Vikings and get their 2 1st rounds. Jefferson, and their 1st round pick next year. Vikings would do that for J. Daniels. If McCarthy is gone and Pats pick Daniels, forget about his skill set, can Daniels handle the pressure he is going to face as a rookie QB here. It would be much easier in MN than Boston. If the Pats deal, they can pick up a kid in the 2nd round and try to develop him. No pressure for the kid and Joe Milton will be available. You play Brissett , Zappe, maybe get Wilson if he becomes available in training camp. We have had how many years now of losing. Boston is a media town, this is not Baton Rouge! And you think Daniels had pressure at LSU. Hope Mayo and Wolf drilled him hard about mental toughness and operating in a fish bowl when Daniels visited Foxboro. As said, McCarthy is best equipped to handle this.
I want them to get a choice that brings his talents to the patriots and stabilizes this team going forward with everything else I have to do. I’m not sure who that is, but I hope they make the right decision.
It's not a who. You need help everywhere which is why your best move is to trade back. Fill the holes on your roster build the team up to be ready for the rookie QB. Your team is not ready for a rookie QB. Look at the 49ers when they took Lance yeah the move busted but did it sink the team did they pick top 10 for years and years after or did they remain competitive until they found the young QB who then instantly took them deep into the playoffs and finally last year a super bowl. Qualifiers for the intelligent when taking a rookie QB. How is the prospects fit with your system and scheme that you run. Are the negatives/weaknesses with them fixable or correctable easy or is it going to be a developmental project. Do they have all the tools and traits that you are looking for in a franchise signal caller. How is the personality off the field and in the locker room. Are they a natural leader, do people tend to gravitate towards them. How do they handle pressure and stress situations. How is their mental aptitude and football IQ. Are they able to read through progressions and multiple routes to make the right throw or do they lock on to certain targets or routes. And then of course the biggest and only external factor is our team and roster in a position or at a place we're we have enough their to support a rookie QB through the struggles and development that comes with jumping from the college level to the pros. Do we have the franchise left tackle, right tackle and atleast average protection up the middle. Do we have the weapons around the rookie to help him play his best by bailing him out on bad throws or going off script when the play breaks down and the qb is scrambling for his life. New England doesn't have any of that. Whatever rookie you take would struggle just like Sam Darnold or Zack Wilson. So trade down and build up the team forget about getting a QB that your franchise is not in a place to help make successful.
I want MAYE. I want DANIELS. It’s simple really.
Exactly. I think both of them are going to be phenomenal. If we end up with one, I’m very happy. They better not trade.
yeah either one for me too
They’re gunna take J.J. lol
Unless it's 5 1sts and 3 2nds. Quarterback is not the only position that can be a bust in the 1st round just the most magnified but if the Patriots hit at qb they are set for the next 10-15 years and I wouldn't trade back even if half those picks hit because you have to pay them with no chance of contending without a qb. I have no idea how come people people who have watched the Jets, Dolphins, and Bills just flat out suck the past 25 years even with all the top 10 draft picks that they have had😂😂😂
@@youtubeconnollyfamily4 first rounders is the only way it can be justified
Peppers is such a leader, man. NE is lucky to have him.
Hodge said Josh Allen and mahomes are 2nd rounders😂 so I definitely want Drake now.
Jury's still out on Allen.
Also said Brian Brohm is better than Aaron Rodgers and he wouldn't draft Jordan Love inside of 5 rounds.
@@4orrcountrynot it’s not bro, he’s the best QB in the league rn if Mahomes doesn’t exist
@@4orrcountrydid the jury get lost somewhere? Did they stare at the eclipse too long? What happened to the jury?
Mahomes would not have done well if he was forced to start his Rookie season. He had the POTENTIAL to completely BUST. Hoge's assessment was DEAD accurate....
NBC Sports Boston, You're so talented! I had to hit the like button!
WHAAA?? Jake Locker 23% ???? Jake Lockers final season in college he threw for 17 TD's 9 INTS, 2265 yards at 55% passing. How in the heck is Maye similar to him????
Stop with the trade down stuff. Pats need a long-term QB. Take them at 3 and move on. If you drop down to 11. You miss out on the top 3 WR and the top tackles. You can get a TE in rounds 5-7. I'd rather have another top corner to air with Gonzalez. I like the kid from BC! Enough with Merrill Hodge. He also missed on Justin Herbert and Jordan Love! Nobody knows. That's what makes the draft exciting.💯
They need a Mike ditka type of trade to give up that #3 😂😂
😂😂😂you think yall would learn watching the Jets draft bust after bust. Got news for you it's not the QB that was a bust but the team around him that sucked. 1 player out of 11 can only do so much. So by all means follow the Jets route and take the rookie QB and watch him look like shit right before your eyes all year and then when he gets benched for Brissett because all the fans are crying that this guy sucks. Now your in the 2025 draft sitting top 10 again with a back up journal and a young bust. Or you could play this like the Texans the smart way the way the 49ers did it. You build the team first you know those other positions like the offensive lineman to block for the QB. Yeah you need one of those their are several legit franchise left tackles in this draft, you need a true outside wr, because all you have is slot guys. Their are plenty of those in this draft too. Now imagine taking a QB that has nothing around him that will fail because he has nothing around him. In doing so miss out on the new franchise left tackle and the new WR1. Only to be right back at the top of the draft next year with all the same problems because the young QB you took at 3 last year that ended up busting because of the team around him. Sound like the Jets with Darnold and Wilson? Or you could take the smart route trade down with Minnesota get the holes on your offense filled with true talent that can lift the play of your journman QB and be in a place to either draft or trade up a few picks to take your QB of the future in 2025 now that you have your franchise piece in place. Imagine having your pieces in place for next year's draft when a one Sheduar Sanders son of HOF CB Dion Sanders is set to come out. Not only is he the son of a HOF player but he also showed enough to be mentored personally by the goat himself Tom Brady. To me it's a no brainer trade down build up and take Sheduar next year.
If Washington snags Maye I'm kinda hoping we pull a juke and take McCarthy. If the Pats arent sold on McCarthy and Maye is off the board then lets trade back with the Vikings and load up on offense. Bowers, Adonai Mitchell, Rice!!!!!! (Jerry Rice son). Those could be our first 3 picks (two first rounders and second round)
Rice is a fourth round pick, no way we waste a 2nd on him. He's NOT his dad...
I like the sentiment but 3 young wideouts with star potential when there’s only one football to spread around may not work.
Daniel’s!!!!!
@@DrigoArtsFXit’s all about risk and reward my friend. Gotta take some risks if we wanna move forward and Brenden Rice may not be his dad but he is definitely learning from arguably the greatest WR ever. That’s a huge advantage.
Also not all breakout stars come in the first two rounds as history has shown.
Like I said, all about risk and reward.
@@TheWasifI doubt all three would be on the field at the same time at any point this year (unless we are blowing out a team and want to get them some reps)
Bowers could possibly be the starter eventually but I’m betting he’ll be TE2 to start. Mitchell and Rice will not be taking over Bourne or KJ either. Between Mitch and Rice, only one of them is going to be WR3.
I also like the way this sounds (loading our offense) but I think we end up taking a QB realistically.
McCarthy will be the best QB out of this draft. Irish last name ending in Y played at Michigan. 🤔 yup.
JJ is the correct choice.
People are forgetting about Jordan Travis from FSU. If we do trade down, we should snag him.
Hopefully an early Maye but wtf do I know.
😂😂
Your big mistake here, JT, was excluding Michael Pratt.
Daniels is gonna be the patriots QB Maye is going 2 no way Adam Peters passes up on him
You’d be surprised by listening to the Washington fan base and espn pundits
. Fans don't know diddly.
@@4orrcountry yes but it’s really discouraging arguing on Washington comments sections all the time. Draft just needs to hurry up already
Every Washington fan and media members (most of them) think they’re taking Daniels
@@jerodmayoINC yeah…that’s my point. But crappy part is, all the people that want Daniels says Maye is the worst thing since Hitler
If we get Daniel’s we need Higgins!!!!
I feel like JJ is going to end up being a real good qb.
There is 0 evidence that JJ McCarthy will be anything but a back up QB lol that’s probably what he is a future backup
@@455zzz that’s the same for every other prospect
@@13bangbang16 no it’s not the same lol there’s evidence with the other prospects because they were actually allowed to throw the ball unlike JJ McCarthy there’s a difference…
@@455zzz there is zero evidence with the others. Thats my point is that yours is entirely irrelevant. If you want to go off who has done anything than McCarthy is the only one who is a winner. He won a championship, the other 3 have not….JJ also won championships starting at the lowest level, threw high school and in college. That also matters, and he is the only one that’s done that. He can throw, has a strong arm and is probably the most accurate qb in the draft. Now you sound dumb saying they won’t let him throw. They had a real football team that ran the ball, and protected the ball. News flash it’s what the Pats are trying to replicate. AT the end of the day not a single one of these guys has done anything to prove or show they will work in the NFL. They could realistically all end up busts. The reality is that 1 or two will end up long term franchise qb’s. That also doesn’t mean it’s going to be 1 or two if the first 3. Could be Bo Nix and Penix you never know…..
@@13bangbang16 you never know that is true but winning college championships has no bearing on how good a QB will be in the NFL because football is the ultimate team sport it’s just my opinion of JJ McCarthy is that he has a decent arm not strong his mobility is decent but he’s just “ok” and I’m 100% positive my pats don’t want that we could’ve kept Mac jones if that was the case..
Interesting, the one guest was Hodge, the only analyst that doesn’t like D. Maye. His history, people should fact check his history, LOL, it can be googled easily. He said J. Herbert wasn’t an NFL QB and was inconsistent and said that J. Love was no better than a 6th round pick.of course M. Hodge grew up in Idaho, near Seattle, Las Vegas and Denver, not sure what team he loves but all 3 need a QB, it would probably be great for him if Maye drops in the draft. I loved when hodge said that Maye was stiff and not mobile in February, that can be Googled as well, I couldn’t stop laughing. His last review he said a QB should never be a playmaker…Ummmmm Whaaaaaat?, please se Mahomes!
A good coach knows when to punt!
It's going to be... we have no damned idea. But expect two weeks of amazing, genuflecting, desk-thumping, acrobatic takes on what might-maybe-no, wait, surely-will happen. Ah, what drives us.
Pls stop mentioning JJ mcarthy as a possibility
Maye!!!
Tom=The Dad from Married With Children
Draft McCarthy if you want a top 3 pick the next 3 years. He could be a bridge to the pats franchise QB in 2027. 😂
I do agree though with at least 4 firsts before trading down
No draft pick has ever brought that in return they are not getting that and they wouldn't even ask because it's so far beyond logical maybe for the first overall pick in this year's class could bring that in but sure as he'll not the 3rd. Yall are going to be mad as hell on draft night when your front office ignores all you fans that don't have a clue how to build a winner or run a franchise make the smart move and trade down to take extra assets in this year's and possibly next year's draft, and use those assets to build out the roster to make it into a roster that will be ready yo take a rookie QB next year. Because regardless of who you take if you take a QB at 3 you will be right back at the top of the draft next year. In virtually the same spot only difference is that you will have a mental broken young qb that has already been labeled as a dissapoinmwnt and bust because he couldn't magically turn your your crap team into gold. Before you take a rookie QB go get yourselves a franchise left tackle make sure that you have at least average level lineman across the rest of the line anyone less than average with a rookie qb is going to stand out that much more. Then if you trade with the logical choice in Minnesota you would not only be able to get your franchise left tackle at 11 but would also have pick number 23 to take a true number 1 WR. With those 2 in place ride it out with Brissett this year and set yourself up to take the QB next year a guy like sheduar Sanders son of a HOF and being mentored by the goat. Brady taking an interest and investing in him should be music to Patriot fans ears. You are I n perfect place to be competitive by 2025 and beyond with all young blue chip players in key areas on offense all on rookie deals you can attack free agency in mass force on the defensive side of the ball this next off-season add sheduar in the draft and be right back to being a powerhouse in the AFC. Or you can take a QB this year and move nowere but in circles.
Ya too bad new Englands taking best available 😢 .....go pats
If they are be thrilled, your getting a guy that might be a threat to Jefferson for best WR in the leauge.
If you can’t get Jayden Daniels, you trade down. Go watch Drake Mays’s game vs NC State and tell me you think he’s a franchise QB.
Seen the game, I think he’s a franchise QB
@@jet0819 I saw a qb playing 6 against 11, oline just rolled out the red carpet for the defense
Trade down for 3 second round picks. Grand slam.
Has Andrew replaced the Senator?
Commanders=Drake Maye
J.J McCarthy=Vikings
Jayden Daniels=Raiders
Joel klatt who is the best college QB analyst out there, Let’s be honest guys. Has Drake going #2 for a reason. He’s looking at it in a 10 year window. Believe Drake will end up being the best QB and very similar to Josh Allen. I really hope Washington does take Jaden. At first I wanted Jaden but now I really want Drake.
I feel exactly the opposite. If Jaden is willing to slide when he runs, I think we have a winner. He's a better passer than Maye and J.J.
Daniel’s or Maye, pass on McCarthy
In my opinion Williams is going to be the biggest let down I a long time. Daniels is RG3 at best if he's lucky. JJ is Zack Wilson 2.0 Drake Maye had the least amount of talent around him. He could have bailed on his college but he stayed and that shows the kids loyalty. He's built to be a NFL QB 6'4" 225 lbs and athletic from a athletic family. He's 22 years old he's going to fill out and get bigger he's the most accurate passer over the middle. Fix his footwork and arm slot and that kids going to be special for quite a while. He can scramble but needs to learn to get down.
Agreed. Whenever there’s a “generational” class with 4-5 first rounders, it seems like only one if not maybe 2 is elite, one is okay, and the rest are busts. Situation matters but I can see a world where Williams is alright but doesn’t live up to his hype, and either Maye and/or JJ are around the top 7 of qbs.
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MCCARTHY BEAUTIFUL FOOTWORK AND ACCURATE TOO!! DONT BELIEVE TO PEOPLE MCCARTHY IS NOT MAC JONES!! THEY ARE DIFFERENT MOVES!! MAC JONES DONT HAVE FOOTWORK!! HE CANT RUN!! BUT JJ MCCARTHY HAVE EXCELLENT MOBILITY HE CAN RUN!! DONT BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE SAYING HIS BECOME MAC JONES THATS RIDICULOUS!!
Draft JJ and move forward.
Drake or Daniels.... Duh
Trade down, take the best LT available, and take Spencer Rattler
Hell no
LOL~
None of the above. The only thing the Patriots would accomplish by drafting a rookie QB at #3 is ruin an otherwise great and promising prospect. Ha, I love the delusion around New England thinking they still have a team that befits a rookie QB. You have no pass protection. You have a WR room full of 3rd option WR. You don't have a true great or legit #1 WR. Any of the prospects they take is going to struggle. These guys are fucking nuts I'm all for supporting your team but what they are talking g is straight delusional. 4 firsts that has never been traded for not even for a number 1 overall selection. Patriot fans be glad these fools aren't in your front office. Your team would never get out of the dumpster fire. The best thing you can do at 3 is either take the sure thing in a true number 1 wr in Marvin Harrison Jr. Doesn't matter who is throwing the ball when you have a guy like that. He is going to get his. The other is trade the pick to Minnesota get the 2 firsts this year and the extra first next year. Use the pick at 11 to get a true legit franchise left tackle. Then use 23 to nab a true number 1 WR. A rookie QB is not going to do anything with the team he has around him. Build the team first then add the QB next year as the final piece. 2025 draft Sheduar Sanders. Mentored by Patriot legend Tom Brady.
Tom I'm just praying the team isn't listening to you 😂. You take the QB that falls to you Tom. They don't have a QB. Brissett is the bridge QB Tom. Trading down shows they don't have the balls to take a risk Tom. It's the easy way out.
Classic dummy.
What a waste of a show. Curran strikes again.
Giardi is the ONLY Patriots reporter I now trust. The rest of you are all just clowns good for entertainment. GIARDI was the ONLY one who had the balls to land something like Stink, Stank and Stunk. He was the ONLY one being true to what he saw and reporting it without bias and a@@kissing. He owned it too. He didn’t take it back. That’s what demands respect. Honest, unbiased reporting even when the news sucks and maybe you’ll lose some access to the coach or players. But at least you’re reporting what is, not what sponsors and the team want you to say … “Thorton, man he looks good, he caught a pass on the sideline today.” “Boy that N’keal Harry, what a fantastic, amazing, hall of fame catch he made today.” “Wow, I can tell this is the year he’s going to break out.”
Mayo said the decision is gonna be with everyone on the same page, with that being said. YOU CANNOT TELL ME THAT ALL THE COACHES INVOLVED IN THE DECISION IS GONNA AGREE THAT MCCARTHY IS A GOOD PICK AT 3 like a blind man sees that’s a reach and the wrong fit for the team
These guys have been milking the draft speculation for two months- it’s not complicated for New England - they don’t have a QB they’re sitting at number 3 in the draft with a good selection of College QBs. Next years class of QBs is not good. Draft Maye or Daniels and. Rebuild.
That's Jets logic for you we dont have a tackle or main wr(just a bunch of slot guys and 3rd options)and don't boast an elite run game. Let's take a rookie QB that needs those things in place without those things in place. Then lets put the expectation on tjis one guy with nothing around him to turn the whole franchise into a winner overnight. It's not that hard that's why the Jets drafted Darnold and 3 years later they are taking Zack Wilson again at pick number 3. Again didn't build the roster or team around the qb to give the rookie any hope for success and then blame the rookie qb for not being able to turn crap into gold. Taking Drake Maye, Jaden Daniels, JJ McCarthy, or even Caleb Williams, none of them would look good playing for the patriots. Why because the team around them sucks. Look at the 49ers with a 7th round QB taking them to the superbowl how does that work? Because you built the team around the QB. Not taking anything away from the goat because that's what he is, but Tom Brady had as much success and won as many superbowls as he did because he kept his salary down understanding the importance of the players around him being high caliber as being the key to success. Trust me your best move is trading down and either taking a developmental project to sit for a year and learn or just wait for 2025 which no it is not as deep at the QB position but all that means is that there won't be 6 qbs being talked about as first round picks. Trust me when I say that next years class might have the best prospect of the last few years coming out. That man is Sheduar Sanders, son of HOF CB Dion Sanders and is being mentored by your franchise legend and all time goat in Tom Brady. Brady is not the type to get involved with a young QB because of who his dad is Brady saw something in Sheduar that told him he had massive potential. That's the only reason Brady would work with him and guid him. If it was me I would take a prospect with HOF genetics that's been mentored by the greatest QB of all time. Over any prospect this year Trust me my team needs a QB and I was beyond bummed when Sheduar didn't declare this year because I think 5 years down the line he will be better than anyone in this year's class assuming he walks into a situation we're the other pieces are in place.
Tired of this agenda .
The thing is Tommy C, the fish already had their QB on the roster when they traded down from 3 to 12. Love the show!
God imagine being in the same division as the Jets. As a Patriots fan you have watched the Jets make the same mistake time and time again taking a QB high in the draft and not having a team around them that was Sam Darnold, that was Zack Wilson. How did that work for them. You would think that watching a team make the same mistake over and over that neither the team or their fans would want to see their team make the same mistakes. If the Patriots take a QB at 3 they will do nothing but ruin the prospect. You are not, I repeat you are not in any position to just take a rookie QB and suddenly your contending again you have a bad team. You have no pass protection up front you have a WR room full of slot or 3rd option guys you lack any real recieving threat on the outside. So you can't block for him and you don't have a true threat target to throw to, sounds a lot like what Sam Darnold and Zack Wilson walked into. You would have though it obvious watching the Texans last year that the way to build a team through the draft is by setting up the team around the QB first and then adding the QB. Turnedthe Texans from #2 overall pick to winning a playoff game. Not because they took a rookie QB, but because they built the offense and had all the pieces in place around the QB. Their is the difference only time will tell if your front office is as dumb as these clowns.
You quarterback in a fishbowl in New England. You gotta have real mental toughness and mental stability. The fact is Maye never came close to having the kind of pressure McCarthy was under these past 2 yrs. Same with Daniels. Pats should take McCarthy, if he is gone, they should trade the pick to the Vikings and get their 2 1st rounds. Jefferson, and their 1st round pick next year. Vikings would do that for J. Daniels. If McCarthy is gone and Pats pick Daniels, forget about his skill set, can Daniels handle the pressure he is going to face as a rookie QB here. It would be much easier in MN than Boston. If the Pats deal, they can pick up a kid in the 2nd round and try to develop him. No pressure for the kid and Joe Milton will be available. You play Brissett
, Zappe, maybe get Wilson if he becomes available in training camp. We have had how many years now of losing. Boston is a media town, this is not Baton Rouge! And you think Daniels had pressure at LSU. Hope Mayo and Wolf drilled him hard about mental toughness and operating in a fish bowl when Daniels visited Foxboro. As said, McCarthy is best equipped to handle this.
lol yall can keep your pick. Your pick ain’t worth no damn 4-5 first round picks.
I love Tom E. ! Also excited for a new era for the Pats🙌🏈 Feels fresher & lighter 😎
Big Athletic Corner??? Sounds like last year's promising 7th round pick, Isiah Bolden.
D,
NONE OF THE ABOVE
Daniels
I want them to get a choice that brings his talents to the patriots and stabilizes this team going forward with everything else I have to do. I’m not sure who that is, but I hope they make the right decision.
It's not a who. You need help everywhere which is why your best move is to trade back. Fill the holes on your roster build the team up to be ready for the rookie QB. Your team is not ready for a rookie QB. Look at the 49ers when they took Lance yeah the move busted but did it sink the team did they pick top 10 for years and years after or did they remain competitive until they found the young QB who then instantly took them deep into the playoffs and finally last year a super bowl. Qualifiers for the intelligent when taking a rookie QB. How is the prospects fit with your system and scheme that you run. Are the negatives/weaknesses with them fixable or correctable easy or is it going to be a developmental project. Do they have all the tools and traits that you are looking for in a franchise signal caller. How is the personality off the field and in the locker room. Are they a natural leader, do people tend to gravitate towards them. How do they handle pressure and stress situations. How is their mental aptitude and football IQ. Are they able to read through progressions and multiple routes to make the right throw or do they lock on to certain targets or routes. And then of course the biggest and only external factor is our team and roster in a position or at a place we're we have enough their to support a rookie QB through the struggles and development that comes with jumping from the college level to the pros. Do we have the franchise left tackle, right tackle and atleast average protection up the middle. Do we have the weapons around the rookie to help him play his best by bailing him out on bad throws or going off script when the play breaks down and the qb is scrambling for his life. New England doesn't have any of that. Whatever rookie you take would struggle just like Sam Darnold or Zack Wilson. So trade down and build up the team forget about getting a QB that your franchise is not in a place to help make successful.
These guys are sure homers.