Who Nate from Euphoria is really in love with…
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- A lot of Euphoria revolves around love triangles featuring toxic heartthrob Nate Jacobs: there’s Nate and Maddy, or Nate and Cassie - but if you pay attention, the person Nate’s really in love with is clear.
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damn these high school characters dont have homework to do
Yeah right?!😂
Right? For the most part of high school i was worried about exams and homeworks
Fr the only worried they have is by not getting laid😭
Who had homework in high school 🤣
You’re saying that as if they would’ve done it if they did have homework😂😂
The person Nate is in love with is Nate. Period
I thought the video would say that, because it's true
That not true he hates himself.
@@harleyquinnlover6816 I was gonna say this. Like Nate is clearly Drowning in self loathing. I don’t think this is mutually exclusive with the idea of him looking out for his best interests in a strategic sense. If anything Nate’s in love with power and wielding it over others.
Don’t take the show this literally, Jules may have been the first person Nate had genuine feelings for, but at the end of the day Nate’s priority is Nate. And also, self loathing is very common for narcissists, they think they’re better so they hold themselves to higher standards, and he is nothing if not a narcissist.
This like I casee the video's point but at the end of the day, we shan't give him a saving grace, he's just a narcissist that's incapable to love smn (in a non-destructive way) at least for now and the following 1000 years of character - development or sth.
Nate is OBSESSED with jules and IN LOVE WITH HIMSELF
I feel like it’s the other way around
Nah, I don't even think he likes himself.
Yeah you got that backwards
Yeah, no. It is the exact opposite. Nate doesn't love himself. He's terrified he'll end up like his father, and because of that, he is obsessed with control. To a point where if he feels like something in his life is completely out of his hands, he will go to extreme, desperate, and even horrifying lengths to regain his feeling of security.
Jules and his attraction to her is an unknown variable in his life. That alone terrifies him.
He also most likely has internalized homophobia due to seeing his dad's tapes when he was only a kid and is terrified of becoming him. He is afraid what it might mean for his own sexuality if he admits to being attracted to Jules knowing that she was not born biologically female. The thing is that it's probably just all in his head anyway as he does seem attracted to women.
He wants to be a person he likes, so he does everything he thinks will make him happy rather than explore what having real feelings for another person could be like for him.
He's clearly very guarded and would would rather hurt others than put himself at risk of becoming anything other than what he thinks he has to be.
@@Satans_Little_Helpersee, i know Nate is a terrible person and I hate how he treated others, and I definitely wouldn’t like him irl, but as a fictional character he’s so complex and interesting to me.
To any young girls, watching this video, please ignore the toxic message in this short! No, Nate would not be a better person if he embraced his love for Jules, he will only be a better person if he goes to therapy and gets help for his emotional hangups. A boy’s love for you will not fix him!!!!!
For everyone missing my point: someone who abuses others will NOT stop abusing people because the love them, they will abuse the people they love until they overcome the issues that cause them to be abusive.
@@MoneySoul I know you think your comment has logic... But it doesn't. Why embracing your love for someone who is trans makes him embrace himself? Like trans girls are people to, we (trans people) are not objects made for homofobic homosexuals to proyect themselves on us, Jules is another person apart from Nate, Nate needs to go to therapy to try to LOVE himself and not only protect his ego. Because ego is not the same as self esteem, if he embrace his love for anybody he will only be using a defense mechanism caring about others so you dont have to work for yourself and your psique. But you have, and you're loosing time not doing it, and you're making the problem worse by time. Every relationship will fail if you don't.
@@MillieLilth there is a logic there tbh, I guess what they mean is one the major roots of his problems is his closetedness, and if he were to date someone he actually loved he would be relieved of the burden of having to lie to everyone in his life, including himself. But you're right, having someone to talk to might really benefit him as it would most of the characters in the show.
Lol do u really think that the point of this short is the “I will fix him” cliche? That’s totally different from what “embracing love” encompasses. The whole point is that for Nate to embrace his love for Jules, he needs to give up the toxic behavior that steams from a distorted view of masculinity. Being together with Jules (a trans girl) already presupposes a shift from a toxic conception of masculinity, which is what Nate needs to do to become a better person. That’s the point of the video that went completely over your head.
@@MillieLilth “why embracing your love for someone who is trans makes him embrace himself?” Do u seriously not understand that? It’s because what keeps him from embracing his love for her is his distorted view of what masculine behavior is. Once he abandons the “masculine persona” that men in general are always trying to live up to, he can truly be himself. Embracing your love for someone who society tells you that you should not love, even though you do, is a radical embrace of your true self.
@@fabiodias6059 Yeah, seriously, I didn't understand. But you helped. I wasn't contemplating that point of view.
The thing is, even though now I agree that Nate embracing his love for Jules could be a benefit for Nate... I don't think it would for Jules. And without good guidelines Nate could project that love in a dangerous way for Jules. Because, even though accepting his love for her its a radical change of his behavior, doing that doesn't mean he will automatically shift his toxic conception of masculinity, and treat Jules with all the love she deserves.
I honestly think the best panorama for Nate to embrace his love for Jules is learning to love her in the distance while going to therapy.
Nate loves how free Jules is. He wants to be as free as she is. He self loaths, he's a narcissistic insecure confused individual.
He needs some therapy, maybe some Jesus
Exactly. It’s not Jules, it’s what Jules represents that he longs for in himself. And it comes across as a more selfless feeling. It’s not.
@leighness1988 yes but he could learn to accept himself by just being open about having feelings for Jules and express those feelings without fear of judgment. He needs to grow and let go, and if he does he could be really good for Jules.
y'all either don't know what narcissism is or you haven't deciphered his character very nicely. Narcissistic personality is a real psychological thing and at no point other than the break of their condition do they hate themselves. The literal meaning is self inflation and loving yourself more than anything or anyone else.
@@Aiibh I'd classy him as a self centered jacka** with maybe a borderline personality disorder. That's just from the clips I've seen, no way am I going to watch this show. Just tell me if I'm accurate.
Please don't confused attraction for love. Just because someone desires you doesn't mean they value you.
Profound 🥀
Attraction implies that you value the person somehow
don’t confuse love with respect either. people can love you and still disrespect you
@@yomilala8929 attraction implies there's something that pulls you towards the person. It could be lust, curiosity, etc but it doesn't imply you find the whole person to be valuable
@@melarie205this I agree! Louder for the ppl who still don't get it.
Jules simply represents everything he can't express due to his toxic masculinity and behavior
🤦♂️there's no such thas toxic masculinity
At least he is extremely good looking?
Toxic masculinity has nothing to do with him. He’s just a narcissist 💀
Lol, what does that have to do with anything
There is no such thing as toxic masculinity 😂
Nate knows how to have feelings for people, but he loves people the way a child loves a favorite toy. He wants to be in control. He wants to possess and own what he "loves". Possessions don't have feelings that come before that of the possesser, and he is frequently more comfortable with destroying others than giving up his control over them. Sometimes a bit of humanity and empathy peeks through, but it isn't enough. Nate Jacob's is not a safe person for anyone, including himself.
👏👏👏👏
That’s why him and maddy always fought, because maddy didn’t always give in and fought back, which for some reason a lot of people take issue with her for doing so but I think it’s good that she did that because allowing him to have control is not good
You said it perfectly 💯
Nate is the most "obsessed" with Jules. That boy isn't capable of loving another human being with his current mental state. He has been extremely abusive to Cassie, Maddy & Jules. Don't confuse that for love.
With no one, he is in love with the power play
even if he is in love with jules, he still needs to sort his own shit out before getting involved with her or anyone for that matter.
for real they need to fix their shits cus both have problems, before they get together cus it's so obvious that they will at the end of the day
and i think it make sense and they will compliment each other well
Nate doesn’t know how to love, you can thank his dad for that
No. Nope. Not happening. We are not perpetually the “he is mean because he likes her” trope. Nope. Nate doesn’t love anyone because as of now he is incapable of love. The poor boy needs a really good therapist and an open mind if he wants to ever learn to love.
"Poor boy"?
Excuse me...
That’s not the point of the video
@@suisui7481poor as in needs help. he came from an incredibly physically an emotionally abusive family even if he grew up affluent, and he can only break the cycle of he gets therapy.
Do you think these are real people or something
@@suisui7481poor boy as in what he went through in his childhood.Don’t get me wrong I dislike him with a passion and don’t really fully understand this character as he confuses me a lot but he didn’t necessarily have a good childhood due to his dad who isn’t able to self reflect the sh1t he has brought into his family
Nate is a narcissistic psychopath. He isn’t capable of loving someone. He IS however capable of obsession. And with his condition that can rapidly become dangerous.
Nah, I don’t think so
Jules definitely threatens what he believes about sexuality
He just doesn’t want to admit he has doubts about his own sexuality so he bullies her to quiet down his doubts
And it’s the same with Cassie
Nate, being a toxic man, feels like he should be dating feminine girls to prove how much of a man he is
He dresses Cassie in more feminine clothes to prove that he’s dating a “real girl”
Ummm no. I'm surprised the Take came up with this. I'd say Nate's feelings for Jules is sincere but it doesn't mean embracing his love for Jules will automatically make him a better person. His issues go way deeper than whatever he feels for Jules. He has daddy issues and can't comprehend his sexuality. These things need therapy and time to self reflect. Jules's support might help but it could also mean that she might have to carry the burdens Nate dumps on her and can end up scarred herself. This is a common situation lots of women find themselves in. They think their love can heal a man. But people only heal through time and self reflection and help through therapy. This is why mad men never had don end up with a woman because that's not the cure.
Not to even mention the abuse he puts Maddy and Cassie through and how that could translate into this relationship
Time isn't always a healer. Therapy isn't a healer either unless it's the right therapist. Everyone needs love. It may not heal you but it will make a significant difference.
well we’re not going to get this storyline anymore because the actors had a falling out 🥲
Really?? Which of them did?
@@xzdollfacexzI think Nate and Jules
I thought that it was Jacob elordi and Zendaya who had a falling out. Ive never heard of hunter not getting along with anyone maybe her ex boyfriend.
did any of the actors tell u this?
Nate deserved Indian parents ..Only Indian parents could have fixed this man
😂😂😂Right
Absolutely.
So did Rue , Maddie, Kat, Jules
I really wonder why? 😅
😂😂😂
Nate Jacob literally love me
I’d don’t think he’s in love with Jules if anything he sees her more of a fetish than anything unlike Rue who sees her beyond the trans identity and appreciate her for her free spirited nature but that was only more of an infatuation than love
As an older, wiser viewer of the show, I agree with this. He is conflicted and even angry about it, but he feels something for Jules he can’t replicate its other girls. He is his best self with her.
Cause hes gay
@@lkctom2546 jules is a woman...
@wonhosblink nah its a guy lol are you blind
@@lkctom2546 jules is a girl. trans women are women. why would you watch euphoria if you’re transphobic 💀
@@lkctom2546lol dont make fun of the blind but maybe get your eyes checked just in case
Nate is a narcissist. Men like that will destroy your life.
Nate doesn’t know what love is. He can’t eel it and he told maddy that he didn’t even know if he could feel her love for him and he seemed sincere. I think he connects with Jules because they’re both victims of his dad and he admires Jules because while Nate is afraid of the unknown and losing control and stepping outside of the lines of what he believes to be the ‘right way to live’ and Jules had the courage to ignore what everyone would say and live her ‘true authentic life’ and has done a pretty good job of making it work. Admiring someone for doing something you can’t do doesn’t mean he loves her though. I think he desperately WANTS to know what it feels like to love. He wanted to love maddy and Cassie and start a family that could be better than his crap one but nobody hates Nate more than Nate and he self sabotages at the slightest sign that he’s losing control over someone or something. And some of the looks on his face Elordi does are so devastating even though his character is detestable. I’ve read that psychopaths and people with antisocial personality disorders struggle so much with not feeling emotions because they know what they’re supposed to feel like because they closely observe people when they are emotional to try and figure it out and it must be frustrating af to be told how awful and cruel you are for not feeling some feelings when you just can’t… like how he always reaffirms that he loves Cassie and Maddy with the saddest look on his face because he just freaking can’t and so maybe some part of him resents that he can’t and takes it out on them so they feel as crappy as him. Or maybe he breaks them down so much so he can get frequent observations of how people with actual emotions behave. It’s crazy. And for his parents to so openly hate and fear him when they are the ones who raised him in a toxic family and exposed him to traumatic stuff as a child and never once showed any love to him or each other for him to understand what it was because all they cared about was their public image… and now Nate is obsessed with controlling situations so he doesn’t lose his reputation as the rich alpha jock who rescues weak women from abusers it’s terrifying because characters with parental neglect and trauma like Nate and Cassie are the two I’ve seen more prevalent in real life and everyone would rather say they’re evil or a lost cause or that they deserve to be hated because of their choices but never want to actually try to understand what happened to make them that way. It’s easy to give up on people and sometimes for your own personal health you have to. But have a little compassion for people, you have no clue what they’ve experienced that turned them into that person and who they could’ve been if given a different situation. To someone you’ve been their villain and they need to hate you to feel better about letting you hurt them and surely you’d want them to understand that your trauma has a hold of you and give you a little kindness instead of the way people just throw people away like garbage for being humans with trauma. Wild
Jules can literally change nate their dynamic was so interesting im upset they ditched it😢😢 hopefull in s3 we see them together
Literally
THIS!! It's what I always thought... Is so obvious
Nate doesn’t deserve Jules.
hes in love w himself
I STILL believe Maddie should've been the one to give Jules back the tape
I know huh. I forget they're already friends
Let be real people Nate and Jules still have feelings for each other don't deny it people.
Yes. They are human, and they have feelings. No one denies that. The problem is that neither is personally in a healthy emotional place to support or lift another person in a relationship. They both have a lot of work to do to be stable enough to protect themselves from abuse and to not be abusive themselves.
I'm not saying it as a dig. It is hard to come out of an abusive cycle and break the cycle yourself, especially when you learn a lot of deeply unhealthy tactics to cope and survive. These things are necessary and become ingrained. It takes a lot of attention, focus, desire, energy, and time to truly fix it. Relationships are difficult and complicated. You can't split your attention all ways effectively, especially if you are dealing with heavy trauma. More often than not, you do a lot of damage to the people closest to you.
Nate is deeply abusive in relationships. He sees women by traits and is extremely homophobic and territorial. He is attracted to Jules, but the level of conflict she creates in him makes him a constant, volatile threat to her. The treatment she has accepted in the past from others heightens that threat and potential for abuse. They fit, but they fit the way a knife fits a stab wound. It doesn't make it functional.
Attraction*
@Everafterhighforever Exactly. Attraction in itself is pretty neutral, or at least grey area. It is what it is. It becomes loaded depending on context and intent, both of which can alter things very quickly.
Edit: Just realized a potential issue in this post, as well as my past one. I have a lot of sympathy for those dealing with trauma, abuse, and mental illness. All of those things are very difficult, complex factors, making it harder to function healthily and safely.
There is still a point where you are making that decision, though, and, whether or not you choose to take responsibility for it, you have it all the same.
he’s in love with Jules 100%
Also, in his little fever-dream sequence in while he's bedridden on season 2 episode 2 (praise God), he fantasizes about all the girls he's infatuated with, maddy, cassie and jules. But the the only difference is jules is always in low-lit light in his mind, while cassie and maddy aren't, which I personally think symbolizes him trying to push her into the back of his mind, and trying to distract his attraction to her with cassie and maddy. But she'll always be there, in the depths of his mind...
To the take team - please refrain from using this toxic discourse, i dont care about who you claim he is in love with, he is genuinely dangerous
He looks down because of how shy and nervous he is
Nah he just needs to be in therapy. And for a long time. Not date anyone coz he will hurt them.
Honestly, I've wanted Nate and Jules to end up together from the very start. Ever since their very first interaction in the kitchen at that party. There was equal 🔥FIRE🔥 energy between them right away.
Yeassssssss!!!! They are soulmates!!!
You both need therapy
it just shows how immature people nowadays are attracted to rejection more than pure love
I would like them to come back to this storyline to see where it goes
As a guy I admit that Nate is one of the most terrific and compelling characters I've ever seen. I hope that he get redeemed in the future
He can embrace "his love" all by himself in a dark corner where he can't interact with other humans. I never want Jules to be anywhere near that boy ever again.
are we seriously still trying to romanticize Nate after he pulled a gun on Maddy, and put it to her head? Just a mess.
Season 3 will be all about Nate and Jules 💜💜hurry up 2025 😢
If you're "rooting" for this couple. Get a therapist.
"In love"
Yes because horrible people, believe it or not, in their own twisted way, _can_ love.
@@tcrijwanachoudhury he literally blackmailed her. He doesnt love her.
Nate: “everything I ever said was true🥺👉🏼👈🏼”
Jules:” Can I leave now?”
-maddy: cute outside. But a 6ft5 mma fighter inside (she's masculine and scary)
-cassie: Innocent and feminine looking. But hypocrite, manipulative and a bad person (nate's words: "you have this image of a innocent and sweet person, but it's fake. It's about you getting what you want")
-jules: Check all criteria's from nate's "mental list" (slender shoulders, long neck, good posture, long legs, act feminine etc). AND actually a truly sweet and innocent personality (that's why nate fell in love texting jules). BUT jules rejected nate at the lake.
If you guys didn't noticed: he declared his love and became vulnerable only to jules at the lake (his whole life he had his guard up like a rock) , but she rejected him, so he had to pursue with plan B of blackmailing her to protect his dad. And even when jules insulted him of the Fa* word, he was about to hurt her and use violence, but he just COULDNT do it.
In the end we have to admit that nate is not that trash since he seem to values personality the most. But because he got rejected, and his dad's issues, it didn't go well.
Nate is abusive though so I think he’s more trash than you think
Jules is not good girl. She also fucked Nate's Dad. It's what good girls do?
Yes, you are correct, but most viewers are imature teenagers and you can't expect them to see beyond the black-and-white surface.
Uh, I'm pretty sure I watched the same show, a bit of a reach but...
Jules didn’t reject him, she was just shocked that the sociopath was her online talker. Just as she was about to give in, in a twist he repeated the same words his father said to her from the hotel room. He only put the (blackmail) walls up because he was trying to sway her from having actual feelings for one another. Clearly, he can't blur the lines between genuine and facade, so either push or pull people away when it comes to his reality. Jules, at the very least, keeps herself away, unlike Cassie, who throws herself into that hell for pure desperation. The connection was there, but just a tragic execution of reciprocated feelings ☹️
That's what I've noticed. Huhu I hope they will be in a relationship in Season 3. ❤❤❤💚💚💚💚💚
the audacity the even call this "love"
yo! seeing Jules in the hunger games my heart burst with pure pride.
Last line was everything😂😂😂
Yay!!!! You guys are so smart over at the talk! It was my idea to have him make her look like Jules and I’m so glad you guys picked up on that!
agreed, nate isn’t a narcissist he’s traumatized
Those two things can exist. Narcissists are made due to trauma from childhood (in most cases)
@@queenofhorror29 ur right, i should have worded it differently
wish i could like this more than once. i love everything about this.
They can never be together Nate is such an abusive guy tho and he's messed up like theybcan neverrrr
This sounds like that old saying “ if a boy is mean to you is because he likes you” please don’t put that toxic message for young girls. Ladies if a man is mean, ignores you and treats you like garbage he genuinely doesn’t like you. Nate is a narcissist and only loves himself. Women are just objects to him.
Those who are not familiar with the series may think it is Jules.
Nate is in love with himself. 😭
nah bro is just toxic
they can fix each other
People keep saying that Nate loves Maddy but there was never a ticking moment better those two. But with Jules, there is. So yeah Nate loves Jules.
Got so addicted to this last week 😩 ❤
That’s not a love triangle. That’s a love vine
That and…he needs institutionalization and medication for the abuse he’s undoubtedly suffered AND DEALT OUT
Bro these high school characters are just oartying and laying down here i am stressing about my exams and homeworks 😅😂
Yeahh he really wants jules. I been peeped that throughout.
Always felt like nate loves jules
All three of those girls should stay far away from him.
I don’t feel like he is in love with her, I think he is obsessed with her, which are two different things.
I honestly just ugh like seeing a trans girl with a straight man would be SO progressive for society but Jules is non binary now? Seems like Sam doesn't want Nate to redeem himself like ugh season 2 ruined EVERYONE! Except Rue and Maddy? Idk this show is just disappointing now.
After intense therapy and getting out of his toxic environment will possibly change this man.
He's infatuated with Jules, it's not love. He's never learned it and has grown up seeing people as possessions or puzzle pieces to fit his idea of himself.
What is love?
And I still want Nate and Maddie back 😭
I hope he gets his just desserts soon
Nate loves Nate. None if them know what love is
Lol, is it even a question? Last episode in the last season is crystal clear nate has feeling for jules.
I’m SOOOO sorry but they should be endgame.
ngl i wrote this before i fully watched it and now i think that nate does love jules. but jules deserves better so hopefully they aren’t endgame.😍
Guys don’t judge me but I’d love to see they together. Maybe Jules can change Nate
Idk but i really loved him with cassie. There is a huge chemistry between them. Like they complete each others ❣️
Please. Nate is aggressive towards everyone lmao. He is threatened by everyone except Cassie.
Nate clearly hates himself but his ego won’t let him admit it so maybe that’s why you guys think he loves himself but he’s obviously conflicted
Hes in Love with Cal
it's my personal headcannon that sam levinson rewrote euphoria season 2 because he heard deja vu and thought "hey let's make a show out of this"
Jules brings the best out of him
Thank you!!!!!!
Too real. Toxic masculinity
Nate like his dad is in love with Jules, lol
This short did not pass the vibe check
The way he would still be an abusive piece of shit either way
ok im glad others are seeing this because im shipping them on the down low.
Someone already said what I came to say but I’ll say it again Nate loves Nate that’s it . He may have softer emotions for Jules but it ain’t love . Dude is damaged, manipulative, and cruel . He was nice to Jules once stop calling that ish love smh
He always goes back to maddy
I wonder if it’s because he likes the toxicity. Nate wants power and control, but he’s also very messy, so I think he get’s some sort of enjoyment from when Maddy challenges him, especially knowing that he’ll always win
More like admires her because she is free to express herself and he confines himself to his father’s expectations of him. Even if it was to protect his father at first it transpired into something else. His actions felt experimental even with his motives. He tried to relate to his father and maybe tried to understand him. If some sort of end game involves him and Jules, it best as a slow burn than something sudden. He’s too toxic.
The thing I hate the most about Euphoria right now is that it had a lot of interesting female characters to explore but Sam Levinson keeps choosing to focus on Nate. He's a psycho and an abuser, I don't want to see how he destroys another girl, I don't want a fucking redemption arch for him, I don't care why he is like that. Maddy should have been the one who gave the cd back to Jules, but not only they didn't want to give her a nice character development, they also had to ruin Cassie like they did. Lexi was writing the play the whole season and the two more memorable scenes are the musical about Nate being gay and Cassie on the carousel, because that's all Levinson cares about, NATE and Cassie's sexuality.
First season was so thematically rich, it's enfuriating.
Also, it's really weird to me that someone can look at that scene and think "aaaaaw, he's good deep inside", when just a scene earlier he was putting a gun against Maddy's face.
And please let's not forget he send a guy to jail after almost beat him to death, and he forced both Maddy and Jules to give a false testimony about that. Nate needs to be in prison.
nate was only earnest and vulnerable in the car scene with jules because that's what he wanted jules to believe. so she won't see what his motive really is for giving her that cd.
Also for yall saying that nate cannot have feelings for someone just because he is a narcissist is not true he can fall in love but it wont be the healthy kind (unless he gets help for his issues) he'll simply view the person he loves as an extention of himself not as their own person with needs and wants
Nate is insane
Can you imagine if we start season 3 with jules and nate together?
That would be good. I hope the direction is worth the wait
I don't want that for Jules. Nate needs to work on himself. A lot.
That is all I wanted ever since we found out that Nate was the one Jules was talking to.
Hes in LOVE with Cassie, hes OBSESSED with maddie and hes INTRIGUED by jules.
He's not i'm love with Cassie...
@@Imyourdreamb0yy there's a scene where he dreams of marrying her and having kids after fez beats him up
@@kingarthur4700 he's in love with the idea of Cassie he's a sociopath he can't love anyone
If Jules becomes Nate's girlfriend:
Father and son Focked up the same girl.... Nosty
This comment section passed the vibe check
You can’t love somebody else if you don’t love yourself, so non of the mcs can really love they just get obsessed. That only explains everyone self destructive behaviors
He’s so homely
I think Nate was actually more in love with his Dad than anybody else
Totally see that.