2 of my buddies and I ran them on our 990 adventures, on a tour up to Tuktoyaktuk and back to Kelowna B.C. we put on 10,000kms on them with loaded bikes. I didn t run the GPS front tire, but my 2 buddies did. We ran the back tires in the mostly offroad direction on 1 bike and 50/50 on the other 2 bikes, we got aprox 10% more wear out of the tire in the 50/50 direction. The GPS front tire puhed in the soft conditions but showed little wear after 7000km road and 3000km dirt riding. I ran the mitas E10 on the front of my 990 and it was a great match for the GPS rear, and it last the same distance as the rear. Overall the E10/GPS combo is my ADV touring pick.👍
Going on a 1090r for the first time. Question: The person who mounted in the more aggressive dirt direction, did they mention slippage less or finding the bite more that the other two riders on the over all journey? Mounting it within a day and I've not decided LOL ... Me, mostly twisties on black top and all that to get to DOT Dirt roads and Forest Service Roads
Hi, thanks for the good vids. I just replaced the Motoz tires on my 790Adventure. I went right back to the same tires as I was very satisfied with their performance. I am running an Adventure on the front and a GPS on the rear. I ride in a lot of really loose materials, deep gravel and dirt. I went with the Adventure on the front for better traction and steering, less wash out in the loose stuff. This combo worked out perfect for me. I have ridden many kilometers with many different tires over the years and this is the best combo I have experienced for the type of riding I do. About 50% or more of my kilometers are off asphalt. I switched out these tires with just over 11,000 kilometers on them. The front was done, but held up really well. I probably could have gone another 3-4,000 kilometers on the rear but decided to swap them both out for a fresh start. Overall I'm very pleased with the Motoz tires.
I have it on my Africa Twin, going for a change with 24.000 Kms. The front is almost flat on the sides and very noisy now. Overall very satisfied. Very good on asphalt, as well as dirt. Not so good on mud (centre strip) and wet pavement, where they are quite slippery
I just changed out my rear GPS tractionator, I put it on my 2017 Africa Twin at 7000 miles, and have a new one on now at 21,500 miles. I'm pleased with this mileage, and performance, since the new ones are around $250. And it's easy to mount, compared to others. So far, the best damn tire I have ever run.
Great tire but mine vibrate between 15 and 35 mph. Noticeable coming off the stock tires. Everything else is fantastic. Has anyone else experienced this? My other thought is the dealership tried to ride my africa twin dct with the parking brake on. I think/hope it is the former.
@@jonlough3074 I have a similar vibration on my africa twin in 3rd and 4th gear between 25 and 40. Annoying! I mounted mine road bias. You? I am curious if it makes a difference.
@dwayneneufeld1696 my rear tire is also mounted road bias. I think the solid strip in the rear rules the back tire out. It has gotten a little better over time, but the tread block on the front tire has enough gap that I think it transmits back up to the bike. I am going to try the trail max mission tires next.
@@jonlough3074 Thanks for the reply! Just trying to figure this out. My wife has a Suzuki 800DE that needs tires and doesn't want my vibration. Hah. I did mount my front tire first and road it before mounting the rear and there was no vibration at these speeds. I was thinking about trying the tire dirt bias direction if yours is also road-biased like mine is. If I can get myself to do the work I'll let you know the results. It's hard to believe this nasty vibration doesn't bother other AT owners.
@dwayneneufeld1696 that is interesting! I had mine mounted at the same time. It does look like it took a lot of wheel weights to balance it. What does your wife think of the 800? I am looking for a new bike for my wife but haven't nailed it down yet. I will have to see if I notice the vibration in corners or just straight line. The vibration definitely started with these tires.
Dang, I just got informed today the Dunlop Trail Max Missions I ordered have shipped....I really like the look of these Motoz's, and it's certainly good to know the honest success you guys have had with them. Great video, Eric! A+++
I took off the tractionator GPS after 14000 miles put on the Dunlap trail Max Mission it turns better and has better performance than the attraction later but will probably get less Miles
Ahh, surely, and as Richard noted, it sounds like you have a good tire on the way, Dr. Lee. Folks riding our bikes tend to be looking for as much dirt as possible, so......that broad-treaded, grippy rear Tractionator GPS is answering that call well. Rain on the way, so we've got some chocolate velcro riding ahead : ) Thanks again. --- Eric
I’ve got 10,000km on my GPS tyres and I’ll get another 10-15,000ks out of them I mainly do bitumen but the added grip on the dirt is great. Fantastic tyre and they are an Aussie company 👍
I mix my tyres, on the rear I use the GPS, and Adventure on the front for additional off road traction, the rear is great on modern bikes with TC Off road mode engaged, Triumph Tiger 800 XCA. I with they made the GPS in a 120/18 for older bikes.
running them for a few years ...so far 14000 klms in australia conditions and still look like half worn...bmw r1200 gsa....one up or two up ...dirt and road great tyre.......
Put a motoz GPS on my GSA at Touratec rally a month ago. LOVE this tire so far. My ride home was on wet pavement and felt safe. On dirt is where I really fell in love.
Great review, thanks. I'm considering the Adv/GPS combo for my new Triumph 1200 GT. I like the idea of greater bite at the front and longevity and some movement at the rear. The off-road will be on gravel/small rocks, trails in the Flinders Ranges. Be interested in views on best combos for that area from Australian viewers.
Fitted a set of these tyres to my Super10 a while back for a long trip (Albany to Kununurra, Western Australia) with a mate on an Africa twin with Michelin Anakee's on. We covered more than 2000 km of dirt in Australia's mid west and north west. He crawled into our destination of Kununurra with barely anything at the rear whilst I turned around the next morning and rode back to Perth in 35C+ degree heat no worries. Still plenty left in the front and rear, and I feel confident that if I was to do a lap of the nation I could do it all on a set of the same tyres. Only downer I found was the high frequency vibrations I was getting through the bars off the front tyre, but the durability is there for sure. I had no grip issues on the dirt sections (Kalgoorlie to Kununurra/Gibb River road) either whilst running 30 PSI. Tarmac grip in the wet is more than acceptable to me, you don't play sports bike on an S10 in the rain !
That "lap of the nation" and verifying that they will last.....sounds like the perfect reason to do so. Have a good ride! Thanks for watching and sharing, and thanks to your fellow countrymen for making these great tires.
I've ran a pair of the Motoz Rallz on my F800 GS. Amazing tires, I would love to see you guys do a review on them. I got about 6,000 miles out of the front, and I still have about 1,500 more on the rear before it would be completely done with. They performed extremely well in everything I threw at them. Twisty, canyon road rain riding, lots of trail riding in a variety of terrain including deep sand and gravel, and they always ate up everything I rode through.
@@oldfart7479 overall I like them. I have about 20,000km on them now and will probably get another 6000 to 8000 easily. I have a hum between 85 and 95 kph but other than that they are quiet. Really good traction in high speed sweepers and good in the rain too. Off road I have had them mainly on fire roads and gravel and they hook up very well, no complaints. From a value perspective I feel I got my money's worth, they were more than twice as expensive as the Shinko 804/805's I had on before but I have gotten more then double the mileage, way quieter and much much better in the rain. I am interested in these Motoz but I would buy them again in a heartbeat.
Thanks for a helpful review. Just finished a few thousand miles on anew set of TKC 70/70 Rock. Good tire but definitely heavy on road bias tire and looking for something with a little more confidence for newer off road rider. Appreciate the content.
Top tyre. Have one rear on KLR. Michelin Anakee adventure on front. Excellent tread and wear. Great on or off road. Agree on all points of review, particularly longevity and value for money.
Men, i really love everything motoz makes, but everybody seems to love them too because unless you pre order they are imposible to find in stock, im about to put a set of bridgestone AX41 on my T7 witch is a tire that everyone says just melts but has good on road and great off road performance, either way i have plans to chill and ride a more relaxed pace on pavement so i can squeeze as many off road miles out of them as i can, hopefully the tenere being lighter and less powerful than almost any other big adv on the market and me riding without luggage most of the time or packaging extra light when i do carry stuff will help with my mission of getting a decent millage out of them bridgestones
Paired it with the Dunlop trailmax mission front, a great combo. Bit of a love hate relationship with the centre strip that has trouble in wet grass or greasy mud. But overall a very capable all rounder that plays the compromise 50/50 game as well or better than anything else out there. Definitely the boots for long haul travel with respectable performance.
Does the bike feel like the front wants to turn a bit more than the rear by chance? Sometimes two different tires can actually feel like a mismatch, while of course, we can adapt how we're riding accordingly.
Good question, but can’t say I noticed that happening. They seem to play quite well together & the trailmax is surprisingly capable off road for it’s street biased looks. Tracks surprisingly well in the dirt. The motoz gps front looks even more street biased, but haven’t tried it yet so not sure how they’d compare.
@ionutd84 Just replaced Trailmax front with same at 12,313 miles on my SuperTenere. I like the front tire, rear is not for me, poor traction on cold wet pavement.
I’ve run both the GPS and Adventure rear on my KTM1190R. Both are great tyres with plenty of grip on and off road. I still can’t go past the TKC80 front though. The Adventure is better in softer terrain. Tyre pressures make a huge difference off road. I run 28 psi front and 32psi rear for better grip off road. 35psi and 38psi on road for both the Adventure and GPS. The adventure is easier to take off in the scrub and repair a flat. I run the front with a tube but the rear tubeless
I am struggling to decide between GPS and Adventure rear, while having the TKC80 front. What would you recommend for a planned 70/30 off-road/on-road riding and liking to go hard on throttle, whilst keeping in mind that there is a ~2000 mile (2-up with luggage) trip coming up this summer? What milleages did you get from both of the tires?
Thanks Eric ... I am gonna use some of these on my 890R this spring. Wanna know a funny story? I was on the IDBDR this last summer and met some guys in Yellow Pine. They though I was you. I think I am your doppleganger.
Ha, ha, I haven't watched most of these videos since we created them, and had forgotten about that little joke in there. Thanks for the reminder, and tell Mom I got REAL busy cause of videos like that one : )
I'll pass that on to Mom. I'm interested in getting some Motoz Tires. I am still not sure whether to go with the GPS or the Adventure tires. Can a GPS rear tire handle a BDR? @@RIDEAdventures
@@ssmith278 for sure, we've had lots of folks rent our bikes and ride the PNW BDR's the past few years, mostly on the Tractionator GPS. Perhaps the only time you might want the Adventure model is for hill climbs in really loose stuff, or maybe mud in general. The connected center strip on the GPS model is definitely a factor.
Thank you all for your videos, they have been very helpful. Im taking my 500X to the Arctic Ocean from TX. Would you recommend the Motoz GPS or the Dunlop Trailmax?
Depending on the types of terrains you want to take on, or of course, the mandatory dirt/gravel road that awaits all of us on the final stretches up there, the Tractionator GPS would be our preference.
I’ve got these tires on my 2018 Tiger 800. Love um, about 4500 miles so far. They’re still holding up great. A bit noisy at hi way speeds. Would not even consider a different choice when replacing. 👍🏼
I had a set of Tractionator Desert HT tires on my DR-Z400. A 3000 mile round trip from Everett, WA to Death Valley and back used more than half the tread on both tires. I estimate the maximum range on these tires at about 5000 miles. Initial tread was really deep. They were fine on the highway, fantastic in the dirt. I would love to try a new set in the dirt, but they were already significantly worn when I got to Death Valley. I replaced the Desert HT's with Tractionator Adventure tires. They are a little better on the highway and not quite as good in dirt, but no better range. Maybe good to 6000 miles. Maybe. I currently have a set of Tractionator RallZ on my Africa Twin. I replaced the front after about 5000 miles because I was preparing for a trip. It might have had another 1000 to 2000 miles of useful life on it. The rear tire now has about 9000 miles on it, and I estimate it could have another 4000 to 6000 miles of useful life. Similar performance to the Adventure tires, but much longer range. For comparison, I was using Heidenau K60 Scout tires on a V-Strom DL650 and getting 16,000 to 18,000 miles from them. I have a set of Tractionator GPS tires sitting at home waiting for the RallZ to wear out. They probably won't go on until next spring. Disclaimer: The Africa Twin and the RallZ tires are better than I am. On a trip to Death Valley, they saved my butt on more than one occasion. I have not come close to challenging the limits of either the AT or the RallZ tires except through my inexperience.
Recently broke a rib in my back after a front wheel pinch flat on my T7 fitted with the lightweight MotoZ Enduro. Gonna fit the MotoZ GPS rotated for off-road orientation for riding down from Edinburgh to The VINCE in Catalunya, Spain. I'm hoping the sidewall stiffness and off-road orientation will get me up the hills without too many new dramas.
I've just put the GPS on the back of my 2014 DL1000A, and the Adventure on the front. Only comment i really have is that the back seems to sit on top of the gravel so it squirms around a bit. But leaning it over on corners it bites nicely. Oh, i forgot to say, ya mumma said they look good on my bike. 😎
Ha, ha, thanks, and Mom is always saying something nice! : ) And yea, that broad tread/carcass on the rear GPS might be a bit more floaty than some more narrow, or sharply-arced carcasses. Like the Heidenau (which we also compared the GPS to in another recent video.)
Maybe just slightly more noise/vibration. Hard to detect though. We think they last longer in Mostly-Off Road, taking longer to flatten-out in the middle. Perhaps because it puts more emphasis / heat on the outer lugs. - Thanks for watching.
I've experience cracking along the base of the tread lugs. This occurred at 3000 km. I now have 11,000 plus on them. no loss in air pressure or performance. I believe this is superficial only and not affecting the underlying carcass. Have you experienced this on any of your tires?
Every once in a while a little cracking shows up on potentially any brand of lugged tire we've used. Nothing regular though, so it's hard to pinpoint. Maybe just an extremely hot moment that we can't say for sure causes it. --- Thanks for watching and commenting.
We've switched to Mostly Off Road recently, and the rear appears to be actually lasting a little longer, and wearing more evenly (less flattening-out.) So hard to judge this, with all different Customers/Riders doing all different stuff, but it might be that .... the extra stress on the side lugs in the Mostly Off Road direction is helping wear those sides down faster, and therefore, more evenly with the center. Great tire no matter what. --- Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@RIDEAdventures Thanks, I mounted it a few hours after asking the question. I chose the more aggressive: as I was looking at the tread, it reasoned out in my head that the 50/50 leading edges curved away, meaning the side lugs are continuously playing catch up on the side bite. In the aggressive direction, it appears that every mm of leading edges are wanting to pull the tire back in against the natural "slide" out g-forces. Your observations on equalizing overall tire wear is pretty neat, makes sense, again thanks.
@@letstakearide, I actually asked the U.S. distributor (I think the only one?) of these tires about my logic on why they might last longer in the Mostly Off Road direction, and well......they seem to agree. Weird thing to just look at it and assume, but it seems to make sense.
@@RIDEAdventures It would be difficult to tell everyone this without being continuously challenged in debates as to the why. It makes sense that the company would simply say mount this direction for 50/50 and that for more street .... I get what you are saying and for one appreciate the knowledge
And we're finding some very interesting ..... possibly-better-overall-longevity .... when we're running the rental fleet in the Mostly Off-Road direction. Will report more later, but it seems that the extra emphasis this direction puts on the outer-lugs might help the overall wear more evenly, instead of flattening out as much. Thanks for chiming in : )
Definitely not a "problem," we just need to keep in mind that .......when we have a harder (more durable, longer-lasting) compound, it may not perform as well in the cold/wet as a softer, more sticky compound would. So it's just a matter of moderating speeds and stopping needs accordingly.
@@RIDEAdventures there are stories of some tires becoming dangerous at those temperatures, while others are simply not performing as good. As long as drop in performance is predictable its fine.
I've got a set of the Tractionator GPS on my Tenere 700. With around 2200 miles on them, the rear is approximately half worn, but the front looks basically new. My miles have been about 65-70% offroad. Admittedly, I'm hard on the rear though. I like to wheelie on and off road and I enjoy drifting corners offroad. You people must be much more gentle with your right wrists to be getting so many miles out of these tires.
I had a set of tractionator adventures on my 850gsa and although they were fantastic tires, the front absolutely howled. Is the GPS front a quieter tire?
Ed, thanks for the note. --- For sure, we're grabbing/cupping a little more loose stuff in the Mostly Off Road position, AND, it actually appears to wear a little more evenly (less flattening out) in this position, as it puts more emphasis/heat into the side lugs this way.
Your single strip explanation would only be applicable if you are way over pressurized. At normal pressures there will be a bout a 2.5” contact area. The center strip will add to longevity I agree. Running the Motoz adventure now V85TT very satisfied. The problem I have with the front tire GPS is in sand it appears to me the front GPS would struggle and probably wash out. The tread pattern is eerily similar the the death wing. Mounting is not a problem with a Baja no pinch. Which made mounting the motoz a breeze. Also want to give a shout-out to chapmoto GREAT SERVICE!
Hi Eric, I'm looking for some new tires to replace the stock Pirelli's on my T7. Which one do you advise based upon the fact I'm planning to do the ACT Portugal and a lot of twisties. I assume the ADV will handld better on the dirt and the GPS on the road?
We are loving those Tractionator GPS's, and yep, almost any tire with a connected set of lugs down the middle will likely do better on pavement. Thanks for watching, and have fun out there : )
I push them to the limits on my AT and sometimes i touch the pegs, and no problem😀 You may ride hard on asphalt , but it have some limits, they are no street tires. They are great on any dry conditions. You may throw them on any terrain, but when is wet you have to be more careful. Except that it is great tyre.
I’m pretty dedicated to the TrailMax Missions on my Africa twin. I do a lot of riding in the rain on pavement. That center strip tells me that the rear tire will suck on wet roads. The Trailmax excels at this and I get around 10k to 11k out of them. Getting my 3rd set this week.
Opposite experience here, I removed the super hard compound rear Trailmax Mission from my R1200GS when half worn after it started sliding repeatedly and activated traction control during easy straight line acceleration on wet paved roads. After similar experience with the super hard Heidenau K60, I'm naturally suspicious of any hard compound rear on wet pavement, and wish tire reviewers would mention that important performance aspect on these type tires but no one ever does. Mentioned in the video though is a high silica content in the GPS rear (missing in the Mission and K60), so maybe the GPS is better than them in the rain.
Interesting reply. The TrailMax Mission is a great tire and while on the surface it appears to not have the center strip... but several thousand in and the 150 that the AT has turns into a solid center strip. The mission is GREAT but I took it off "prematurely" of my Africa Twin and 1190 Adv R as it stopped working as I needed it to once the center became solid.
@@manybikes I’m not exactly sure what you’re saying but if the tread blocks in the center of the rear tire wear down to the point the sipes that cross the center of the tire disappear, you’re well out of the tires lifespan. I’m at 10,500 miles on my current set of missions and I can still see the sipes crossing the center of the tire. I’m past the lifespan now, just waiting my my service center to get my new set in.
Having a full center stripe is a misnomer about being more slick in the wet conditions. It has to do more with the amount of silica they put in for grip.
It does fine, we just need to keep in mind that as one of the harder compounds in this category, it will perform as other hard compounds tend to in the cold and/or wet. (Not as good as softer compounds.)
Great tire but mine vibrate between 15 and 35 mph. Noticeable coming off the stock tires. Everything else is fantastic. Has anyone else experienced this? My other thought is the dealership tried to ride my africa twin dct with the parking brake on. I think/hope it is the former.
Yea, probably because the characteristics/profiles are a match, so the overall discussion and description applies to both in terms of longevity, durability, grip, etc.
Nice tires. Love/hate the center strip (reminds me of Heidenau's K60 Scout). The lateral blocks are a plus, being so big and such, as yo mama is too 😅 (nice lady).
Useful information about which adv tyres to use for berginer like me . TQ Eric take care stay safe .hi from yaakob 🇸🇬😁. It nice if you can sent me a Ride Advanture sticker 😁
These were going to be my go-to for the T7, to replace the stock STRs. Then I saw some reports from people who have put them on and say they are a bit squirrely on hard dirt and loose gravel . . . that is compared to a full knobby like a Tractionator Adventure or a 909. Anyone have them on and has a different experience? Its a trade-off but you have to wonder too about the hard compound in the cold or on wet pavement. Economy vs performance. Tho at $210 for a rear only, they aren't so much an econo tire.
I don’t like it in the wet on tar on my KTM 1190, spins up very quickly. Will not use them again. I am not overly concerned with mileage so will use Anakee Wilds next time.
@@seanbatty2665 I tried the wilds and the were awfull in the wet and dry, lugs tore off and only lasted about 1000 miles. Got a GPS rear on now, seems much better.
MotoZ tires were some the worst tires I’ve ever purchased for my GS. Bought them at an dual sport event and they didn’t hold up well. Lots of issues with chunks of rubber falling off. Stay with well funded known brands that have the resources to do the necessary R and D.
Sorry to hear that! Sounds like a bad batch is going around? We've gone through quite a few tires over the last few years and have yet to experience that but have heard others having similar issues from the comments.
As a tour/rental operator with a fleet of bikes never max-out tires to confirm the big number, as tires are kept more fresh for each new rider. So..... "everybody's different answer" might be the only answers ahead : ) Folks: Help the VMan out.
2 of my buddies and I ran them on our 990 adventures, on a tour up to Tuktoyaktuk and back to Kelowna B.C. we put on 10,000kms on them with loaded bikes. I didn t run the GPS front tire, but my 2 buddies did. We ran the back tires in the mostly offroad direction on 1 bike and 50/50 on the other 2 bikes, we got aprox 10% more wear out of the tire in the 50/50 direction. The GPS front tire puhed in the soft conditions but showed little wear after 7000km road and 3000km dirt riding. I ran the mitas E10 on the front of my 990 and it was a great match for the GPS rear, and it last the same distance as the rear. Overall the E10/GPS combo is my ADV touring pick.👍
Going on a 1090r for the first time. Question: The person who mounted in the more aggressive dirt direction, did they mention slippage less or finding the bite more that the other two riders on the over all journey? Mounting it within a day and I've not decided LOL ... Me, mostly twisties on black top and all that to get to DOT Dirt roads and Forest Service Roads
Hi, thanks for the good vids. I just replaced the Motoz tires on my 790Adventure. I went right back to the same tires as I was very satisfied with their performance. I am running an Adventure on the front and a GPS on the rear. I ride in a lot of really loose materials, deep gravel and dirt. I went with the Adventure on the front for better traction and steering, less wash out in the loose stuff. This combo worked out perfect for me. I have ridden many kilometers with many different tires over the years and this is the best combo I have experienced for the type of riding I do. About 50% or more of my kilometers are off asphalt. I switched out these tires with just over 11,000 kilometers on them. The front was done, but held up really well. I probably could have gone another 3-4,000 kilometers on the rear but decided to swap them both out for a fresh start. Overall I'm very pleased with the Motoz tires.
I have it on my Africa Twin, going for a change with 24.000 Kms. The front is almost flat on the sides and very noisy now. Overall very satisfied. Very good on asphalt, as well as dirt. Not so good on mud (centre strip) and wet pavement, where they are quite slippery
Laughed out loud on your closing ! Nice.
I just changed out my rear GPS tractionator, I put it on my 2017 Africa Twin at 7000 miles, and have a new one on now at 21,500 miles. I'm pleased with this mileage, and performance, since the new ones are around $250.
And it's easy to mount, compared to others.
So far, the best damn tire I have ever run.
Great tire but mine vibrate between 15 and 35 mph. Noticeable coming off the stock tires. Everything else is fantastic. Has anyone else experienced this? My other thought is the dealership tried to ride my africa twin dct with the parking brake on. I think/hope it is the former.
@@jonlough3074 I have a similar vibration on my africa twin in 3rd and 4th gear between 25 and 40. Annoying! I mounted mine road bias. You? I am curious if it makes a difference.
@dwayneneufeld1696 my rear tire is also mounted road bias. I think the solid strip in the rear rules the back tire out. It has gotten a little better over time, but the tread block on the front tire has enough gap that I think it transmits back up to the bike. I am going to try the trail max mission tires next.
@@jonlough3074 Thanks for the reply! Just trying to figure this out. My wife has a Suzuki 800DE that needs tires and doesn't want my vibration. Hah.
I did mount my front tire first and road it before mounting the rear and there was no vibration at these speeds. I was thinking about trying the tire dirt bias direction if yours is also road-biased like mine is. If I can get myself to do the work I'll let you know the results. It's hard to believe this nasty vibration doesn't bother other AT owners.
@dwayneneufeld1696 that is interesting! I had mine mounted at the same time. It does look like it took a lot of wheel weights to balance it. What does your wife think of the 800? I am looking for a new bike for my wife but haven't nailed it down yet. I will have to see if I notice the vibration in corners or just straight line. The vibration definitely started with these tires.
Dang, I just got informed today the Dunlop Trail Max Missions I ordered have shipped....I really like the look of these Motoz's, and it's certainly good to know the honest success you guys have had with them. Great video, Eric! A+++
I took off the tractionator GPS after 14000 miles put on the Dunlap trail Max Mission it turns better and has better performance than the attraction later but will probably get less Miles
I really like the tractionator GPS the fractionated GPSI got 14000 miles out of The set but the trail maximation are much much better
Ahh, surely, and as Richard noted, it sounds like you have a good tire on the way, Dr. Lee. Folks riding our bikes tend to be looking for as much dirt as possible, so......that broad-treaded, grippy rear Tractionator GPS is answering that call well. Rain on the way, so we've got some chocolate velcro riding ahead : ) Thanks again. --- Eric
One of the best rear tires I have run as far as a good balance between traction and longevity. Better than the k60 in my opinion.
I’ve got 10,000km on my GPS tyres and I’ll get another 10-15,000ks out of them I mainly do bitumen but the added grip on the dirt is great. Fantastic tyre and they are an Aussie company 👍
I mix my tyres, on the rear I use the GPS, and Adventure on the front for additional off road traction, the rear is great on modern bikes with TC Off road mode engaged, Triumph Tiger 800 XCA. I with they made the GPS in a 120/18 for older bikes.
running them for a few years ...so far 14000 klms in australia conditions and still look like half worn...bmw r1200 gsa....one up or two up ...dirt and road great tyre.......
Superb review. This tyre is very desirable. Certainly in terms of its appearance, it's the best-looking off-road one.
Put a motoz GPS on my GSA at Touratec rally a month ago. LOVE this tire so far. My ride home was on wet pavement and felt safe. On dirt is where I really fell in love.
Yea, good all-around stickiness, even in the rain we had that weekend : )
Great review, thanks. I'm considering the Adv/GPS combo for my new Triumph 1200 GT. I like the idea of greater bite at the front and longevity and some movement at the rear. The off-road will be on gravel/small rocks, trails in the Flinders Ranges. Be interested in views on best combos for that area from Australian viewers.
Fitted a set of these tyres to my Super10 a while back for a long trip (Albany to Kununurra, Western Australia) with a mate on an Africa twin with Michelin Anakee's on. We covered more than 2000 km of dirt in Australia's mid west and north west. He crawled into our destination of Kununurra with barely anything at the rear whilst I turned around the next morning and rode back to Perth in 35C+ degree heat no worries. Still plenty left in the front and rear, and I feel confident that if I was to do a lap of the nation I could do it all on a set of the same tyres. Only downer I found was the high frequency vibrations I was getting through the bars off the front tyre, but the durability is there for sure. I had no grip issues on the dirt sections (Kalgoorlie to Kununurra/Gibb River road) either whilst running 30 PSI. Tarmac grip in the wet is more than acceptable to me, you don't play sports bike on an S10 in the rain !
That "lap of the nation" and verifying that they will last.....sounds like the perfect reason to do so. Have a good ride! Thanks for watching and sharing, and thanks to your fellow countrymen for making these great tires.
I've ran a pair of the Motoz Rallz on my F800 GS. Amazing tires, I would love to see you guys do a review on them. I got about 6,000 miles out of the front, and I still have about 1,500 more on the rear before it would be completely done with. They performed extremely well in everything I threw at them. Twisty, canyon road rain riding, lots of trail riding in a variety of terrain including deep sand and gravel, and they always ate up everything I rode through.
Aren't they similar to these but with a softer compounds better for things like races but not traveling?
@@emoservedwithfries nope. They are similar to the adventure tire.
Love a comparison of this and the Dunlop Trailmax Mission
Me too it is definitely the two I’m kicking around getting
We've got a MotOZ Tractionator GPS vs. Heidenau K60 Scout comparison coming up. Need more experience with the Dunlop, but it's on our list. Thanks.
I would like to see it too. I have the Dunlops on my Yamaha Super T1200 now but would consider these next.
@@mikemills5144 How are you finfdng the Dunlops on wet asphalt? I have a SuperT1200 also, cheers
@@oldfart7479 overall I like them. I have about 20,000km on them now and will probably get another 6000 to 8000 easily. I have a hum between 85 and 95 kph but other than that they are quiet. Really good traction in high speed sweepers and good in the rain too. Off road I have had them mainly on fire roads and gravel and they hook up very well, no complaints. From a value perspective I feel I got my money's worth, they were more than twice as expensive as the Shinko 804/805's I had on before but I have gotten more then double the mileage, way quieter and much much better in the rain. I am interested in these Motoz but I would buy them again in a heartbeat.
Thanks for a helpful review. Just finished a few thousand miles on anew set of TKC 70/70 Rock. Good tire but definitely heavy on road bias tire and looking for something with a little more confidence for newer off road rider. Appreciate the content.
Thanks for saying so, and yea, this MotoZ Tractionator GPS would be an excellent option to sample.
How is the performance on wet and/or cold weather?
Top tyre. Have one rear on KLR. Michelin Anakee adventure on front. Excellent tread and wear. Great on or off road. Agree on all points of review, particularly longevity and value for money.
Thanks for sharing and saying so!
Men, i really love everything motoz makes, but everybody seems to love them too because unless you pre order they are imposible to find in stock, im about to put a set of bridgestone AX41 on my T7 witch is a tire that everyone says just melts but has good on road and great off road performance, either way i have plans to chill and ride a more relaxed pace on pavement so i can squeeze as many off road miles out of them as i can, hopefully the tenere being lighter and less powerful than almost any other big adv on the market and me riding without luggage most of the time or packaging extra light when i do carry stuff will help with my mission of getting a decent millage out of them bridgestones
Very nice review, thank you.
Paired it with the Dunlop trailmax mission front, a great combo. Bit of a love hate relationship with the centre strip that has trouble in wet grass or greasy mud. But overall a very capable all rounder that plays the compromise 50/50 game as well or better than anything else out there.
Definitely the boots for long haul travel with respectable performance.
Does the bike feel like the front wants to turn a bit more than the rear by chance? Sometimes two different tires can actually feel like a mismatch, while of course, we can adapt how we're riding accordingly.
Good question, but can’t say I noticed that happening. They seem to play quite well together & the trailmax is surprisingly capable off road for it’s street biased looks. Tracks surprisingly well in the dirt. The motoz gps front looks even more street biased, but haven’t tried it yet so not sure how they’d compare.
How many miles can trial mission do as front tyre?
@ionutd84 Just replaced Trailmax front with same at 12,313 miles on my SuperTenere. I like the front tire, rear is not for me, poor traction on cold wet pavement.
I’ve run both the GPS and Adventure rear on my KTM1190R. Both are great tyres with plenty of grip on and off road. I still can’t go past the TKC80 front though. The Adventure is better in softer terrain. Tyre pressures make a huge difference off road. I run 28 psi front and 32psi rear for better grip off road. 35psi and 38psi on road for both the Adventure and GPS. The adventure is easier to take off in the scrub and repair a flat. I run the front with a tube but the rear tubeless
I am struggling to decide between GPS and Adventure rear, while having the TKC80 front.
What would you recommend for a planned 70/30 off-road/on-road riding and liking to go hard on throttle, whilst keeping in mind that there is a ~2000 mile (2-up with luggage) trip coming up this summer?
What milleages did you get from both of the tires?
Thanks Eric ... I am gonna use some of these on my 890R this spring. Wanna know a funny story? I was on the IDBDR this last summer and met some guys in Yellow Pine. They though I was you. I think I am your doppleganger.
No way. Come through to Bend Oregon when you do OBDDR someday. We would love to take a side by side picture to verify lol.
Nice video, Eric! BTW, Mom was just talking about your stiff carcass the other day. You didn't ghost her, did you? She is awaiting your call.😁
Ha, ha, I haven't watched most of these videos since we created them, and had forgotten about that little joke in there. Thanks for the reminder, and tell Mom I got REAL busy cause of videos like that one : )
I'll pass that on to Mom. I'm interested in getting some Motoz Tires. I am still not sure whether to go with the GPS or the Adventure tires. Can a GPS rear tire handle a BDR? @@RIDEAdventures
@@ssmith278 for sure, we've had lots of folks rent our bikes and ride the PNW BDR's the past few years, mostly on the Tractionator GPS. Perhaps the only time you might want the Adventure model is for hill climbs in really loose stuff, or maybe mud in general. The connected center strip on the GPS model is definitely a factor.
Nice to know you can trust your mom with these. Riding a large bike in small countries can be tricky for tire choice otherwise.
Excellent review. Mounting these on my Moto Guzzi V85TT next.
Thank you all for your videos, they have been very helpful. Im taking my 500X to the Arctic Ocean from TX. Would you recommend the Motoz GPS or the Dunlop Trailmax?
Depending on the types of terrains you want to take on, or of course, the mandatory dirt/gravel road that awaits all of us on the final stretches up there, the Tractionator GPS would be our preference.
Great production. Nice work guys.
And a thanks back to the guy who made a brief cameo! Thanks, Kyle.
I’ve got these tires on my 2018 Tiger 800. Love um, about 4500 miles so far. They’re still holding up great. A bit noisy at hi way speeds. Would not even consider a different choice when replacing. 👍🏼
I had a set of Tractionator Desert HT tires on my DR-Z400. A 3000 mile round trip from Everett, WA to Death Valley and back used more than half the tread on both tires. I estimate the maximum range on these tires at about 5000 miles. Initial tread was really deep. They were fine on the highway, fantastic in the dirt. I would love to try a new set in the dirt, but they were already significantly worn when I got to Death Valley.
I replaced the Desert HT's with Tractionator Adventure tires. They are a little better on the highway and not quite as good in dirt, but no better range. Maybe good to 6000 miles. Maybe.
I currently have a set of Tractionator RallZ on my Africa Twin. I replaced the front after about 5000 miles because I was preparing for a trip. It might have had another 1000 to 2000 miles of useful life on it. The rear tire now has about 9000 miles on it, and I estimate it could have another 4000 to 6000 miles of useful life. Similar performance to the Adventure tires, but much longer range.
For comparison, I was using Heidenau K60 Scout tires on a V-Strom DL650 and getting 16,000 to 18,000 miles from them.
I have a set of Tractionator GPS tires sitting at home waiting for the RallZ to wear out. They probably won't go on until next spring.
Disclaimer: The Africa Twin and the RallZ tires are better than I am. On a trip to Death Valley, they saved my butt on more than one occasion. I have not come close to challenging the limits of either the AT or the RallZ tires except through my inexperience.
Recently broke a rib in my back after a front wheel pinch flat on my T7 fitted with the lightweight MotoZ Enduro. Gonna fit the MotoZ GPS rotated for off-road orientation for riding down from Edinburgh to The VINCE in Catalunya, Spain. I'm hoping the sidewall stiffness and off-road orientation will get me up the hills without too many new dramas.
Great video, thanks.
I've just put the GPS on the back of my 2014 DL1000A, and the Adventure on the front.
Only comment i really have is that the back seems to sit on top of the gravel so it squirms around a bit. But leaning it over on corners it bites nicely.
Oh, i forgot to say, ya mumma said they look good on my bike. 😎
Ha, ha, thanks, and Mom is always saying something nice! : ) And yea, that broad tread/carcass on the rear GPS might be a bit more floaty than some more narrow, or sharply-arced carcasses. Like the Heidenau (which we also compared the GPS to in another recent video.)
Hey mate how are you going?
I have a question... So if I set it up to off road settings how does the rear tyre behave on the road?
Thank you!
Is there any disadvantage to mounting it in the more off-road orientation?
Maybe just slightly more noise/vibration. Hard to detect though. We think they last longer in Mostly-Off Road, taking longer to flatten-out in the middle. Perhaps because it puts more emphasis / heat on the outer lugs. - Thanks for watching.
How does it compare to the Dunlop trail max mission?
I've experience cracking along the base of the tread lugs. This occurred at 3000 km. I now have 11,000 plus on them. no loss in air pressure or performance. I believe this is superficial only and not affecting the underlying carcass. Have you experienced this on any of your tires?
Every once in a while a little cracking shows up on potentially any brand of lugged tire we've used. Nothing regular though, so it's hard to pinpoint. Maybe just an extremely hot moment that we can't say for sure causes it. --- Thanks for watching and commenting.
Great work sharing the info, thanks! Question: what do "you guys" choose most in your rides, 50/50 or more dirt direction mounting of the rear? Thanks
We've switched to Mostly Off Road recently, and the rear appears to be actually lasting a little longer, and wearing more evenly (less flattening-out.) So hard to judge this, with all different Customers/Riders doing all different stuff, but it might be that .... the extra stress on the side lugs in the Mostly Off Road direction is helping wear those sides down faster, and therefore, more evenly with the center. Great tire no matter what. --- Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@RIDEAdventures Thanks, I mounted it a few hours after asking the question. I chose the more aggressive: as I was looking at the tread, it reasoned out in my head that the 50/50 leading edges curved away, meaning the side lugs are continuously playing catch up on the side bite. In the aggressive direction, it appears that every mm of leading edges are wanting to pull the tire back in against the natural "slide" out g-forces. Your observations on equalizing overall tire wear is pretty neat, makes sense, again thanks.
@@letstakearide, I'm actually checking with the MotoZ folks about this. Back to you when I have their feedback.
@@letstakearide, I actually asked the U.S. distributor (I think the only one?) of these tires about my logic on why they might last longer in the Mostly Off Road direction, and well......they seem to agree. Weird thing to just look at it and assume, but it seems to make sense.
@@RIDEAdventures It would be difficult to tell everyone this without being continuously challenged in debates as to the why. It makes sense that the company would simply say mount this direction for 50/50 and that for more street .... I get what you are saying and for one appreciate the knowledge
I just got a new set of these yesterday! 🤗
The option to reverse the rear is very cool.
And we're finding some very interesting ..... possibly-better-overall-longevity .... when we're running the rental fleet in the Mostly Off-Road direction. Will report more later, but it seems that the extra emphasis this direction puts on the outer-lugs might help the overall wear more evenly, instead of flattening out as much. Thanks for chiming in : )
@@RIDEAdventures …….very interested in your conclusion, I’m thinking of replacing the rear tire with the 80% rotation when I repurchase a new set.
How does it perform in cold weather, close to freezing and or wet, having hard compound isnt a problem then?
Definitely not a "problem," we just need to keep in mind that .......when we have a harder (more durable, longer-lasting) compound, it may not perform as well in the cold/wet as a softer, more sticky compound would. So it's just a matter of moderating speeds and stopping needs accordingly.
@@RIDEAdventures there are stories of some tires becoming dangerous at those temperatures, while others are simply not performing as good. As long as drop in performance is predictable its fine.
I've got a set of the Tractionator GPS on my Tenere 700. With around 2200 miles on them, the rear is approximately half worn, but the front looks basically new. My miles have been about 65-70% offroad. Admittedly, I'm hard on the rear though. I like to wheelie on and off road and I enjoy drifting corners offroad. You people must be much more gentle with your right wrists to be getting so many miles out of these tires.
wheelies on road probably aren't on most's agenda - certainly not with our constabulary watching on. So yeah, your mileage from tyres is atypical
Just took the Tractionator Desert H/T out on the trail yesterday and love em.
Very grippy and rippy.
Just taken one off T7 , great off- road but my dog the noise on road ….
Ok so you've hooked me in I've got a set ready to go on the 2022 Africa Twin Adventure Sports. Will let you know how it goes
Such a great bike. And tire. Perfect combination, so enjoy :)
@@RIDEAdventures Will do!
Great video ! That looks like an awesome tire, I'll be looking to place an order, can you run a tube in them ? Thanks .
For sure, no problem running tubes
How's this tire do as a mostly 80/20 if not 90/10
Is this still one of your favorite ADV Tour tires? Curious about the front. Do you like it or do you run the Dual Venture for more traction up front?
I had a set of tractionator adventures on my 850gsa and although they were fantastic tires, the front absolutely howled. Is the GPS front a quieter tire?
Pretty sure you'd find the strip on the rear to make that one a bit more quiet.
Now only to find sizes for my ‘99 Cagiva Gran Canyon
Great video. My only question, do you think there's a real world benefit to reversing the tire for off road?
Ed, thanks for the note. --- For sure, we're grabbing/cupping a little more loose stuff in the Mostly Off Road position, AND, it actually appears to wear a little more evenly (less flattening out) in this position, as it puts more emphasis/heat into the side lugs this way.
Your single strip explanation would only be applicable if you are way over pressurized. At normal pressures there will be a bout a 2.5” contact area. The center strip will add to longevity I agree. Running the Motoz adventure now V85TT very satisfied. The problem I have with the front tire GPS is in sand it appears to me the front GPS would struggle and probably wash out. The tread pattern is eerily similar the the death wing. Mounting is not a problem with a Baja no pinch. Which made mounting the motoz a breeze. Also want to give a shout-out to chapmoto GREAT SERVICE!
can confirm the front is useless in the sand. I"m looking for a better alternative now.
I want a tire that is good on grass and mud and still sticks to dry roads. don't care about miles want that traction, any recommendations 😅
Hi Eric, I'm looking for some new tires to replace the stock Pirelli's on my T7. Which one do you advise based upon the fact I'm planning to do the ACT Portugal and a lot of twisties. I assume the ADV will handld better on the dirt and the GPS on the road?
We are loving those Tractionator GPS's, and yep, almost any tire with a connected set of lugs down the middle will likely do better on pavement. Thanks for watching, and have fun out there : )
Nice review; thanks. How are they on twisted asphalted roads? Can we ride sportively in corners with them?
I push them to the limits on my AT and sometimes i touch the pegs, and no problem😀 You may ride hard on asphalt , but it have some limits, they are no street tires. They are great on any dry conditions. You may throw them on any terrain, but when is wet you have to be more careful. Except that it is great tyre.
@@bigbabooon thanks for feedback
I love that little fake hand...😁
20k km on GS1250 mainly on road and still good for another 5k
Is tractionator gps good for muds and soft sand?
How well does this tire work in small river bed rocks?
not much mention of the GPS front tire in this video. otherwise some interesting points
What is the best road tire?
Anyone?
I’m pretty dedicated to the TrailMax Missions on my Africa twin. I do a lot of riding in the rain on pavement. That center strip tells me that the rear tire will suck on wet roads. The Trailmax excels at this and I get around 10k to 11k out of them. Getting my 3rd set this week.
Opposite experience here, I removed the super hard compound rear Trailmax Mission from my R1200GS when half worn after it started sliding repeatedly and activated traction control during easy straight line acceleration on wet paved roads. After similar experience with the super hard Heidenau K60, I'm naturally suspicious of any hard compound rear on wet pavement, and wish tire reviewers would mention that important performance aspect on these type tires but no one ever does. Mentioned in the video though is a high silica content in the GPS rear (missing in the Mission and K60), so maybe the GPS is better than them in the rain.
Interesting reply. The TrailMax Mission is a great tire and while on the surface it appears to not have the center strip... but several thousand in and the 150 that the AT has turns into a solid center strip. The mission is GREAT but I took it off "prematurely" of my Africa Twin and 1190 Adv R as it stopped working as I needed it to once the center became solid.
@@manybikes I’m not exactly sure what you’re saying but if the tread blocks in the center of the rear tire wear down to the point the sipes that cross the center of the tire disappear, you’re well out of the tires lifespan. I’m at 10,500 miles on my current set of missions and I can still see the sipes crossing the center of the tire. I’m past the lifespan now, just waiting my my service center to get my new set in.
@@zyonsdream Sweet! That is some impressive mileage you are seeing!
Having a full center stripe is a misnomer about being more slick in the wet conditions. It has to do more with the amount of silica they put in for grip.
How about in rain?
It does fine, we just need to keep in mind that as one of the harder compounds in this category, it will perform as other hard compounds tend to in the cold and/or wet. (Not as good as softer compounds.)
Great tire but mine vibrate between 15 and 35 mph. Noticeable coming off the stock tires. Everything else is fantastic. Has anyone else experienced this? My other thought is the dealership tried to ride my africa twin dct with the parking brake on. I think/hope it is the former.
Nearly every tyre review dose not review the front tyre including this one
Yea, probably because the characteristics/profiles are a match, so the overall discussion and description applies to both in terms of longevity, durability, grip, etc.
What tyre is shown worn down at 8.29 ? Is it a K60?
Yep.
Nice tires. Love/hate the center strip (reminds me of Heidenau's K60 Scout). The lateral blocks are a plus, being so big and such, as yo mama is too 😅 (nice lady).
Hah, bring on the big, wide mom jokes! : )
Mom joke kung fu is strong 😂
Useful information about which adv tyres to use for berginer like me . TQ Eric take care stay safe .hi from yaakob 🇸🇬😁. It nice if you can sent me a Ride Advanture sticker 😁
These were going to be my go-to for the T7, to replace the stock STRs. Then I saw some reports from people who have put them on and say they are a bit squirrely on hard dirt and loose gravel . . . that is compared to a full knobby like a Tractionator Adventure or a 909.
Anyone have them on and has a different experience?
Its a trade-off but you have to wonder too about the hard compound in the cold or on wet pavement. Economy vs performance. Tho at $210 for a rear only, they aren't so much an econo tire.
I was looking at getting a gps tyre to replace the EO7 on my T7.
The EO7 tyres will spin up on a wet tarmac road in 3rd gear.
I don’t like it in the wet on tar on my KTM 1190, spins up very quickly. Will not use them again. I am not overly concerned with mileage so will use Anakee Wilds next time.
@@seanbatty2665 I tried the wilds and the were awfull in the wet and dry, lugs tore off and only lasted about 1000 miles.
Got a GPS rear on now, seems much better.
MotoZ tires were some the worst tires I’ve ever purchased for my GS. Bought them at an dual sport event and they didn’t hold up well. Lots of issues with chunks of rubber falling off. Stay with well funded known brands that have the resources to do the necessary R and D.
Sorry to hear that! Sounds like a bad batch is going around? We've gone through quite a few tires over the last few years and have yet to experience that but have heard others having similar issues from the comments.
Lol first sentence.
Dad?
Tell your mom I'm late! :)
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Kind of a moot tire. You can’t buy them anywhere.
What is the maximum mileage you have got with them? Please don't say every body is different blah, blah blah 🤣🤣
As a tour/rental operator with a fleet of bikes never max-out tires to confirm the big number, as tires are kept more fresh for each new rider. So..... "everybody's different answer" might be the only answers ahead : ) Folks: Help the VMan out.
Please leave my mother out of your discussion. Highly inappropriate. Highly offensive.
That's odd... She told me last night that she was ok with it.