How ABDA task force, which (if I remember correctly) had roughly equal force against the IJN cruiser force coming to them, can be decisively defeated in the first battle of Java sea?
Lord Cherwell … I’m not a big Fan … He told Frank Whittle the jet engine was impossible and Told R V Jones that Germany didn’t have any V weapons “ ironic because my then 3 year old Mom was evacuated from The London area because of them “ did he Foul up any progress in the Royal Navy as well .. like centrimetric radar …?
@stephen rickstrew Lord Cherwell screwed with radar development by wanting thermal tracking instead... but that's just scratching the surface... he certainly deserves all his work to be under the microscope... at some point
My Grandpa Jack was an engineer on board USS San Diego ACR6. He survived the sinking of San Diego, and later was an engineer aboard USS Wasp CV-7. He also survived the sinking of Wasp.
@@pincopallino6765 Join me in bombarding Paul Allen's sister into quit being a wuss with regards to R/V Petrel. She is the executor of his estate and is the root cause of why R/V Petrel is dockside instead of doing what it was built to do.
@@hithere7382 It appears the estate is more interested in the Vulcan real-estate bits. - flying heritage museum is closed, assets rumoured to be sold (according to warbird people) - StratoLaunch canceled, sold - Petrel laid up, staff let go - Octopus put up for sale - Seattle Cinerama closed (uncertain what plans are). Not holding my breath.
Whatever you might think of the whole German fighting ability, to run through a minefield underwater at presumably full speed takes men with bravery and courage... I salute them as such
Desperation is a huge distinction after all the friendly's would be coming in to back the UK Sub's engagement, and maybe at an extreme end the German sub had two days of air and less than a day or so, I'm actually not super sure there as WW1 subs aren't my specialty but at medium speed it had a day or less of batteries, running into a minefield gives a chance, the fact they ran instead of trying to do any fighting or plotting means it's even possible they had no torps left, so it was literally run into a minefield or surrender and they were headed home with thoughts of loved ones being close, so I guess it was brave of them to risk it to get back to their homes but also screams desperation with no alternative but surrender and I really don't know of many WW1 German boats surrendering, plus don't forget they were taking badly needed supplies home so there was in this situation balls of steel and desperation lol
@@whydoyougottahavthis yours was a worthy - if not also a bit stream-of-conscious-y - comment. Until I got to the LOL at the end. Seriously? You just exposed yourself as still being in the knickers* stage of life. * Knickers in the U.S. 1900 (+/-) sense, rather than the modern British sense.
So I wanna tank drachinifel for getting me into visiting warships museums. I started this year visiting the uss NJ and last week went up to Boston and visited the uss cassin young. I highly recommend seeing some of these ships. I plan to visit the USS kidd while at a wedding.
The Imperial Japanese ARMY had cargo submarines. They were built in secret, so the Navy wouldn't find out, and mainly used for resupplying island outposts during ww2.
It occurs to me that this vessel could have already been found. With its curious profile and and relatively huge deck guns it could have been mistaken for a patrol craft by a diver.
Me: Yeah, I know quite a bit about military history. Drach: Did you know the Germany technically bombarded CONUS during WWI? Me: Yeah, I don't know much about military history...
At least when the Japanese did it, it was deliberate. And, come to think, use a more appropriate weapon. Those Japanese subs used a 14 cm (5.5") deck gun, whereas these hits from U-156 were apparently stray 8.8 cm shells with far less boom (about 40% of the bursting charge).
The Australian documentary series 'The Great War' mentioned the 'Deutschland.' When it made its way to America, the crew was feted and lionized by the German-American community (this was obviously before 1917). It brought a hundred tons of cargo back to Germany.
"Mr. President, the Huns have bombed the coast of the United States." "What? Bring me all the Navy's admirals and explain to me how the German High Seas Fleet has reached the shores of my country!" "No, no, Mr. President, it was a thicc submarine."
Thanks Drach, this vessel was clearly designed for the preferred engagement of surface battle. Cargo submarine sounds like an oxymoron. -Rocky Mountain Yank 🇺🇸
My grandfather was a blacksmith aboard the San Diego, he always told the story of the sinking by mine. The US Navy finally corroborated his story nearly a hundred years later!
@@Ushio01 IDK, I was there in 2016 and walked over to take a look at her. Her outer hull was terribly corroded and you could see right down to the pressure hull in places. An artificial reef would be a good idea.
The German cruiser submarines were why the Clemson class were equipped with reinforced gun mountings to be capable of being armed with 5" 51 guns, and some Clemsons were armed as such.
My grandfather (USN Armed Guard gun crew aboard merchant ships) was torpedoed and sunk by I-155 (formerly the Deutschland). Only a couple hands were lost, and the 155 was later captured and exhibited by the British before being broken up.
The Germans never did get their act together regarding radio signals and codes. I'm left imagining what two or three of these submersible cruisers could do to an unescorted convoy.
Amazing that they hadn't learned anything about radio discipline when WW-II rolled around. Once again in WW-II, they were either hunted down or evaded due to their chatty habits.
Years ago I read book about a British sub that snuck into the Black Sea during WWI. Sorry don't recall the details but it was a good read and might make a good video!
3:31 "Funny" how it was photographed from the Spanish passenger steamer Isabel de Bourbon since it also did in the Spanish steamer Joaquin Mumbru on Dec 30 '17
Were the 88mm deck guns an alternative to the 5.9" guns? Can't see where they would be mounted. Looks like a small caliber gun is mounted on the conning tower but too small for an 88 , prolly an MG .
It looks like there might have been barbettes on either side of the conning tower, with port one being slightly forward of center, and the starboard one slightly aft. Given that she was originally a cargo vessel, it may that those guns were removable, and stowed below. It doesn't make much sense now, but they were still learning how to use submarines back then.
They were mounted en echelon fore and aft of the tower. The gun "mounted on the conning tower" is mounted to port. The other would be mounted slightly aft and to starboard. They would have been used against smaller vessels that didn't warrant a 15cm shell.
It's interesting to note that early submarines really didn't spend that much time as "sub marines." They were really just low profile ships that were hard to see and fire upon, more like the ironclad "Monitor" from the American Civil War.
I never read about underwater sub-vs-sub combat in WW2. My impression was always that, just like in WW1, only a surprise torpedo strike on a surfaced sub could be a potential kill. If one of the subs were taking evasive action or dove the engagement was basically over... anyone got an article or video about underwater sub-sub combat?
the reason there is basically only 1 (that i have heard about) kill in a underwater sub duel, is because your taking a normally 2D environment, and making it 3D. Your now having to account for the vertical movement; With no visual contact(during ww2 not even really hydro contact). You add the fact you cant turn that quickly, and cant adjust if your foe changes their course(cause you cant see em) you basically have near zero odds of actually hitting your target. In the one confirmed kill, its was more the killed kept going at the same speed and course after diving. thus was predictable.
@@PirateofAE2 HMS Venture Fired a pattern of 4 torpedoes, the first 3 set up so that evading them force the uboat into the path of the 4th one following behind the others.
@Drachinfel Summed up the G14 Carrier design The ships were based on the Taiho-Kai or G15 carrier design as successor to the flawed Taiho Class with the G14 fixing the numerous design issues unfortunately after the defeat at Midway the project was halted so the Unryu-Class and the G18 Class Carrier could be focused on an the G14 Project was canned in August of 1943. 7 G14 Carrier were intended to be built with them being laid down between 1944 and 1945 with the intended completion of between 1947 and 1948 however its unlikely they'd ever get finished as the US Military attacks would stall construction
@@connycontainer9459 They were armored ships with a very low freeboard to make them even harder targets with usually one or two turrets on the top. They were used in coastal and riverine combat. Quit innovative for the time.
@@connycontainer9459 the type continued throughout WWI. These "modern" iterations were basically a single battleship turret stuck on the smallest hull that could carry it. Benifets of low cost and extremely shallow draft for gun caliber, drawbacks are being very wet in even moderate seas, and a very lightly armored (but hard to hit) hull.
I swear I remember a video about a submarine during ww1 off the coast of the U.S. that had a hammer thrown at it due to a pilots frustration of the bombs he'd dropped not detonating
@Leonard squirrel SM U35 is the most successful warship of all time. no single warship has sunk more ships than this one, and it doesn't matter whether the opponent has something to shoot down or not
@Leonard squirrel What you said doesn't change the historical fact that this submarine was the most successful warship of all time. The end of the discussion, what if, does not play a role in world history.
@Leonard squirrel We're talking about this so called Gentleman, who enjoys starving civilians via blockade, right? Thats far more evil than the entire submarine warfare.
I'm always haunted by the fact that 75% of German submariners never returned home. The highest KIA percentage of any branch of any service of any nation.
I have often wondered if the German/American community could have built cargo subs in the USA. As a neutral the USA could not allow warships to operate from their ports, but no law stopped them from building and operating cargo ships.
They would have to go to a sub-experienced builder, and all that experience was in building warships. Would a sub automatically be considered a combatant, even without weapons?
@@gregorywright4918 The German built cargo U-boats were regarded as merchantmen by the US authorities. I don't see why a USA built cargo sub would be seen differently.
Would like to hear Drach's thoughts on this, I know being a armchair skipper is easy, I wasn't there. The German sub could out run the other sub, being on the surface, also orders were don't dive in the mine field, stay on the surface ?
Nice. Hey Drach or anyone else... I've tried looking this up, but I could have SWORN that a british aircraft carrier joined the battle line of capital ships when fighting I think Italian warships in the mediteran during WW2. I can't seem to find information on this and I was sure I heard about this occurrence on one of your vids.
U33 was mentioned as a former sub of the Commander of the massive sub SM U156 mentioned here. Useless fact, the cheesy film ‘The Land that Time Forgot” loosely based on the novel by Edgar Rice Burroughs (and somewhat similar to Conan Doyle’s Journey to a Lost World”) featured a sub labelled as U33, no I agree, not very interesting!
If U156 identified the sub sent to intercept it would it have been smarter to stay surfaced and out of the minefield, or was the risk of taking a torpedo on the surface what drove her to dive?
Much like in a dogfight where getting your opponent to intersect the ground still counts as a kill, I guess in this case L8 could at least claim a 'probable'.
With a Gudgeon in the fleet, it's surprising they never had a USS Pintle . They could have operated in close proximity and swung around to support each other. Keeping an eye out for enemies and steering the fleet in to meet them.
Question? I see only two guns on the submarine. Where are the other two guns? Surely, the 88's are too heavy to haul up from below whenever they use them? NOTE: Never mind. I just found out where they were. Ingenious. 'The Krupp mount retracted vertically through a hatch, while the Erhardt version folded down onto the ship's deck.'
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How ABDA task force, which (if I remember correctly) had roughly equal force against the IJN cruiser force coming to them, can be decisively defeated in the first battle of Java sea?
Lord Cherwell … I’m not a big Fan … He told Frank Whittle the jet engine was impossible and Told R V Jones that Germany didn’t have any V weapons “ ironic because my then 3 year old Mom was evacuated from The London area because of them “ did he Foul up any progress in the Royal Navy as well .. like centrimetric radar …?
@@Billy_Annizarry How? Better team won.
Is there going to be a video on the transatlantic blockade runner activities of the class as well? Deutschland/U155 even survived the war.
@stephen rickstrew
Lord Cherwell screwed with radar development by wanting thermal tracking instead... but that's just scratching the surface... he certainly deserves all his work to be under the microscope... at some point
The cargo submarines were always a favorite topic of mine. Nothing to see here, we're just a cargo ship.......
How can I see it if its underwater?
@@yakumoyukari4405 Exactly, thats why there is nothing to see here, move along.
@@lukum55 love it
The cargo sun also evolved into the special operations and commando sub in WW2
Whoop whoop
Dive!
Dive!
My Grandpa Jack was an engineer on board USS San Diego ACR6. He survived the sinking of San Diego, and later was an engineer aboard USS Wasp CV-7. He also survived the sinking of Wasp.
I assume he also often lost money whenever he was gambling :p
With luck like that did they consider gifting him to the IJN as a sailor?
I dont know if that's lucky or unlucky
Hope they didn’t label Grandpa Jack as a ‘Jonah’
He must have been a bad omen that something was going to go wrong, but it was well know that he would get out better than most
It's good the see that if Drachinifel promises use '5 minutes, more or less' he usually means 50% more
Such a Deal …!
It was 20 to 30 minutes till he split it up
Honestly it should be called the 5 to 15 minute guide because that's the time span for the majority of the guides
@@the_undead As some have been longer than that possibly the 'it end when it end' video.
50% of the time, it works every time
British Mine: oooh, a new friend has suddenly appeared! Come and give me a hug.
💥
The same kind of hug the San Diego received. German Mine: Howdy Partner, you're in for a blast, i reckon
Was it Mrs. Drach who did the voice for that one? That was a fun video to watch.
Yet an undiscovered wreck?
RV Petrel: *My time has come*
Apparently RV Petrel is now out of service and won’t be reactivated soon.
@@pincopallino6765 Join me in bombarding Paul Allen's sister into quit being a wuss with regards to R/V Petrel. She is the executor of his estate and is the root cause of why R/V Petrel is dockside instead of doing what it was built to do.
@@hithere7382 It appears the estate is more interested in the Vulcan real-estate bits.
- flying heritage museum is closed, assets rumoured to be sold (according to warbird people)
- StratoLaunch canceled, sold
- Petrel laid up, staff let go
- Octopus put up for sale
- Seattle Cinerama closed (uncertain what plans are).
Not holding my breath.
@@whtalt92 Mhm with all of that other stuff divested the petrel can sail for years.
@@hithere7382 If that was in the cards, it would have happened by now.
drachh..you should be a guest lecturer at the Academies, or War Colleges...amazing research and impeccable delivery..i have learned so much..
Whatever you might think of the whole German fighting ability, to run through a minefield underwater at presumably full speed takes men with bravery and courage... I salute them as such
Desperation is a huge distinction after all the friendly's would be coming in to back the UK Sub's engagement, and maybe at an extreme end the German sub had two days of air and less than a day or so, I'm actually not super sure there as WW1 subs aren't my specialty but at medium speed it had a day or less of batteries, running into a minefield gives a chance, the fact they ran instead of trying to do any fighting or plotting means it's even possible they had no torps left, so it was literally run into a minefield or surrender and they were headed home with thoughts of loved ones being close, so I guess it was brave of them to risk it to get back to their homes but also screams desperation with no alternative but surrender and I really don't know of many WW1 German boats surrendering, plus don't forget they were taking badly needed supplies home so there was in this situation balls of steel and desperation lol
@@whydoyougottahavthis yours was a worthy - if not also a bit stream-of-conscious-y - comment. Until I got to the LOL at the end. Seriously? You just exposed yourself as still being in the knickers* stage of life.
* Knickers in the U.S. 1900 (+/-) sense, rather than the modern British sense.
How would they know that there was a minefield? Our side had Room 40, not theirs.
@@SteamCrane hey, right! #Drachinifel never mentioned _Zimmer 40-D._
Lost to all hands... gone and forgotten...
BUT, now remembered!
Thank you so much!
I didn't know about the Germans having transport subs in WW1. Thank you for this video!
So I wanna tank drachinifel for getting me into visiting warships museums. I started this year visiting the uss NJ and last week went up to Boston and visited the uss cassin young. I highly recommend seeing some of these ships. I plan to visit the USS kidd while at a wedding.
You better not tank Drach, or he'll battleship you. :)
The USS KIDD is in excellent condition!!!
Good to see you covering the first and last class of submarines originally designed as cargo vessels.
Japan also had during WW2 had many Cargo submarines. Type-3,Type-D that was based on Deutschland class and I-352 class
Italy had R-class cargo subs
Not the last if you count commercial submarines and consider white powder as cargo.
Italy had a class of cargo submarines in WW2, the R class, two commisioned: Romolo and Remo.
What are you talking about? Drug cartels are still designing new ones to this very day!
The Imperial Japanese ARMY had cargo submarines. They were built in secret, so the Navy wouldn't find out, and mainly used for resupplying island outposts during ww2.
It occurs to me that this vessel could have already been found. With its curious profile and and relatively huge deck guns it could have been mistaken for a patrol craft by a diver.
Maybe the minefield is still around it as well - just kiddin'.
@@connycontainer9459 you'd be surprised...
You, sir, are an artist for the research and presentation you make on your channel
Me: Yeah, I know quite a bit about military history.
Drach: Did you know the Germany technically bombarded CONUS during WWI?
Me: Yeah, I don't know much about military history...
At least when the Japanese did it, it was deliberate. And, come to think, use a more appropriate weapon. Those Japanese subs used a 14 cm (5.5") deck gun, whereas these hits from U-156 were apparently stray 8.8 cm shells with far less boom (about 40% of the bursting charge).
The Australian documentary series 'The Great War' mentioned the 'Deutschland.' When it made its way to America, the crew was feted and lionized by the German-American community (this was obviously before 1917). It brought a hundred tons of cargo back to Germany.
"Mr. President, the Huns have bombed the coast of the United States."
"What? Bring me all the Navy's admirals and explain to me how the German High Seas Fleet has reached the shores of my country!"
"No, no, Mr. President, it was a thicc submarine."
Thicc, way back then... hilarious
It was a merchant submarine! Deliverying 88mm right to the coast.
Fun fact : Germany _did_ have a plan to invade the US : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_German_plans_for_the_invasion_of_the_United_States
@@spirz4557 If the High Seas Fleet had reached the US after Jutland, I would have sacked some Admirals for such an appalling failure.
I can imagine the fear of knowing you are cruising thru a known minefield while in a sub underwater. But what choice did they have?
Thanks Drach, this vessel was clearly designed for the preferred engagement of surface battle. Cargo submarine sounds like an oxymoron. -Rocky Mountain Yank 🇺🇸
My morning coffee hoisted in salute Drach. Cheers!
Where did you find these pictures? I could never find pictures of the u156. Outstanding job covering it. Bravo!
German submarine engineering was always innovative.
So we're the ways people figured out to sink them
Deevo037 - Desperation does that.
@@samuelmatheson9655 German submarines, like pretty much all submarines, do sink just fine by design really. That's a pretty low bar to jmp over.
@@MadnerKami can't be as bad as the albacore
@Fluesterwitz Everything can be a submarine....once. The mark of success is when you can go back to being a surface vessel.
5:17 That looks very much like St. Katherine's dock, with Thames lighters in the foreground.
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@@Antigonus. Nice work. There's a story in itself.
If they were using air force rules I guess the L class could claim that one as a terrain kill
My grandfather was a blacksmith aboard the San Diego, he always told the story of the sinking by mine. The US Navy finally corroborated his story nearly a hundred years later!
Love the channel and all your hard work. It's my favorite channel to watch.
Thanks, Drachinifel - for another great presentation.
Thank you, Drachinifel.
I really like how those submarines look, soo wide, with a almost warship-like super-structure atop. Two big cannons on the front and back.
Speaking of subs...... The Russian sub and the Queen Mary docked at Long Beach, CA are in bad physical and fiscal trouble.
The one in San Diego is little better off.
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U.S.S. Clamagore at Patriot's Point in Charleston is in terrible shape.
@@BELCAN57 Isn't she going to be sunk as an artificial reef?
@@Ushio01 IDK, I was there in 2016 and walked over to take a look at her. Her outer hull was terribly corroded and you could see right down to the pressure hull in places. An artificial reef would be a good idea.
The German cruiser submarines were why the Clemson class were equipped with reinforced gun mountings to be capable of being armed with 5" 51 guns, and some Clemsons were armed as such.
Hadn't expected this. Must be a submarine!
150mm deck guns?! holy shit
There were bigger.
Atleast the japanese didn't have a funny idea like slapping one of the yamato gun to the I-400 class
What about the Narwhal class, or the British M1?
@@MrX-un8cz the submersable cannon xd
8" on the french Surcouf, 12" on the british M-class.
My grandfather (USN Armed Guard gun crew aboard merchant ships) was torpedoed and sunk by I-155 (formerly the Deutschland). Only a couple hands were lost, and the 155 was later captured and exhibited by the British before being broken up.
The Germans never did get their act together regarding radio signals and codes. I'm left imagining what two or three of these submersible cruisers could do to an unescorted convoy.
Amazing that they hadn't learned anything about radio discipline when WW-II rolled around. Once again in WW-II, they were either hunted down or evaded due to their chatty habits.
Years ago I read book about a British sub that snuck into the Black Sea during WWI. Sorry don't recall the details but it was a good read and might make a good video!
Looks like the USN's Narwhal Class was modeled after them.
Nope, U-156 is still on patrol, slowly making it's way back to Germany.
And boy, won't they be surprised by the changes when they finally surface.
The number and caliber of her deck guns would give a lot of surface warships a run for their money.
Would you please talk about IJN Yukikaze?
Her luck was such a legend, perhaps one of the luckiest ships in pacific war
For the Russians, it's "And then things got worse." For the Germans, it was "Room 40 was listening in". A never ending curse for either.
I'd like to see one about the SM-U20 (or 21?) that sank the Lusitania
The cargo uboat Deutschland put in at New London harbor in Connecticut in 1916. I live just up the hill from there tiday
3:31 "Funny" how it was photographed from the Spanish passenger steamer Isabel de Bourbon since it also did in the Spanish steamer Joaquin Mumbru on Dec 30 '17
This was my favorite sub in ww1. Thanks for upload. Thing was a beast. 😎
Were the 88mm deck guns an alternative to the 5.9" guns? Can't see where they would be mounted. Looks like a small caliber gun is mounted on the conning tower but too small for an 88 , prolly an MG .
It looks like there might have been barbettes on either side of the conning tower, with port one being slightly forward of center, and the starboard one slightly aft. Given that she was originally a cargo vessel, it may that those guns were removable, and stowed below. It doesn't make much sense now, but they were still learning how to use submarines back then.
They were mounted en echelon fore and aft of the tower. The gun "mounted on the conning tower" is mounted to port. The other would be mounted slightly aft and to starboard. They would have been used against smaller vessels that didn't warrant a 15cm shell.
It's interesting to note that early submarines really didn't spend that much time as "sub marines." They were really just low profile ships that were hard to see and fire upon, more like the ironclad "Monitor" from the American Civil War.
I never read about underwater sub-vs-sub combat in WW2. My impression was always that, just like in WW1, only a surprise torpedo strike on a surfaced sub could be a potential kill. If one of the subs were taking evasive action or dove the engagement was basically over... anyone got an article or video about underwater sub-sub combat?
Famously u864 was sunk by hms venture whilst both subs were submerged
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-864
the reason there is basically only 1 (that i have heard about) kill in a underwater sub duel, is because your taking a normally 2D environment, and making it 3D. Your now having to account for the vertical movement; With no visual contact(during ww2 not even really hydro contact). You add the fact you cant turn that quickly, and cant adjust if your foe changes their course(cause you cant see em) you basically have near zero odds of actually hitting your target. In the one confirmed kill, its was more the killed kept going at the same speed and course after diving. thus was predictable.
@@PirateofAE2 HMS Venture Fired a pattern of 4 torpedoes, the first 3 set up so that evading them force the uboat into the path of the 4th one following behind the others.
@@PirateofAE2 Did WW2 subs even have active sonar?
@@gregorywright4918 Fairly certain that most, if not all, didn't. Hydrophones (Passive) was the way to go for subs.
This why great site. Not a naval anybody. But informative and english wryly humorous
french surcouf with its 8 inch turret pls~
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@@whtalt92 neat, thx.
Could you discuss the PT boats of the Pacific please?
@Drachinfel
Summed up the G14 Carrier design
The ships were based on the Taiho-Kai or G15 carrier design as successor to the flawed Taiho Class with the G14 fixing the numerous design issues unfortunately after the defeat at Midway the project was halted so the Unryu-Class and the G18 Class Carrier could be focused on an the G14 Project was canned in August of 1943.
7 G14 Carrier were intended to be built with them being laid down between 1944 and 1945 with the intended completion of between 1947 and 1948 however its unlikely they'd ever get finished as the US Military attacks would stall construction
My wife’s maternal grandfather was an enlisted man on the San Diego; he survived the sinking.
Can we get one video for the monitors of the US Civil War they show up on so many videos but we don’t have a video for them individually
Yeah, I first read about them while playing Victoria 2 - and still have no clue what they actually were and what specific role they fullfilled.
@@connycontainer9459 They were armored ships with a very low freeboard to make them even harder targets with usually one or two turrets on the top. They were used in coastal and riverine combat. Quit innovative for the time.
@@connycontainer9459 the type continued throughout WWI. These "modern" iterations were basically a single battleship turret stuck on the smallest hull that could carry it. Benifets of low cost and extremely shallow draft for gun caliber, drawbacks are being very wet in even moderate seas, and a very lightly armored (but hard to hit) hull.
Not american or civil war but
ruclips.net/video/nmIjr9CeKV4/видео.html
Well it certainly is a nice design concept - thx for answers and link.
Thanks Drach
Wonder how much drag those two big guns imparted n the sub?
You should tell us a bit about the U-505
submarines like this are a cool idea
Wasn't this the boat that disappeared into The Land That Time Forgot never to be heard from again? Poor Mr Dietz.
Having sunk the only US warship lost in WW1 by use of a mine she herself is lost to a mine. Well. Turnabout is fair play.
"Hehe, Karma!"
Are you going to do the Wind class Icebreakers of the USCG during WWII?
Native German speaker here!
You do know it's perfectly acceptable to use translations like Imperial Navy, Submarine or U Boat Cruiser, don't you? 😇
USS Ingham would be an interesting choice for a review
WW1 submarines IMO are far more interesting than ww2 submarines. Not as much info on them laying around unless you really look. U-Kreuzers especially!
I swear I remember a video about a submarine during ww1 off the coast of the U.S. that had a hammer thrown at it due to a pilots frustration of the bombs he'd dropped not detonating
Thanks ...
when does something come up about the most successful submarine of all time?
SM U35
@Leonard squirrel SM U35 is the most successful warship of all time. no single warship has sunk more ships than this one, and it doesn't matter whether the opponent has something to shoot down or not
@Leonard squirrel well the Japanese did that. And the US. And the British. And the Italians. And the French.
@Leonard squirrel Lmao
I suppose keeping up a blockade that caused around 600k hunger deaths of german civilians is seen as being a gentleman.
@Leonard squirrel What you said doesn't change the historical fact that this submarine was the most successful warship of all time. The end of the discussion, what if, does not play a role in world history.
@Leonard squirrel We're talking about this so called Gentleman, who enjoys starving civilians via blockade, right? Thats far more evil than the entire submarine warfare.
Great Video. I has been heard of these
I'm always haunted by the fact that 75% of German submariners never returned home. The highest KIA percentage of any branch of any service of any nation.
Well done. Again
Diving destroyer )
Cool content , thanks!
more likes buddy's!
The 6inch deck guns dose it for me.
I wonder if there were any people enjoying a summer afternoon on the beach near New Orleans Massechusetts when suddenly...
I have often wondered if the German/American community could have built cargo subs in the USA. As a neutral the USA could not allow warships to operate from their ports, but no law stopped them from building and operating cargo ships.
They would have to go to a sub-experienced builder, and all that experience was in building warships. Would a sub automatically be considered a combatant, even without weapons?
@@gregorywright4918 The German built cargo U-boats were regarded as merchantmen by the US authorities. I don't see why a USA built cargo sub would be seen differently.
5:48 Either you mixed up the L8 and L15 photos, or the script is wrong and the L15 was the one setting up the ambush.
Or the photo of L15 was the best photo of an L class submarine that Drach could find...
@@alexandermonro6768 There's a picture of the L8 at 3:04.
Would like to see more on the Hood my dad served on her
last time I was this early Room 40 couldn't read German messages
Very interesting
Would like to hear Drach's thoughts on this, I know being a armchair skipper is easy, I wasn't there. The German sub could out run the other sub, being on the surface, also orders were don't dive in the mine field, stay on the surface ?
Has there ever been a listing done of what ships are seen in the opening sequence of every video?
There is a competition going on right now to list them; see the end of the last Drydock.
Nice. Hey Drach or anyone else... I've tried looking this up, but I could have SWORN that a british aircraft carrier joined the battle line of capital ships when fighting I think Italian warships in the mediteran during WW2. I can't seem to find information on this and I was sure I heard about this occurrence on one of your vids.
3:00 The British were using the USN Kinetic Torpedoes?
Could you possibly do a review of HMAS Australia during WW1.
U33 was mentioned as a former sub of the Commander of the massive sub SM U156 mentioned here. Useless fact, the cheesy film ‘The Land that Time Forgot” loosely based on the novel by Edgar Rice Burroughs (and somewhat similar to Conan Doyle’s Journey to a Lost World”) featured a sub labelled as U33, no I agree, not very interesting!
Any news on U-571 movie review video yet Drach?
Idk, i just got here
My U-571 review... It's Hollywood poop!
Currently still in dispute, if nothing changes it'll be free of restrictions 28 days after the originally intended release date :)
A very short review from me. Nice enough fantasy flick like the 80s Never ending story. As realistic as a flying teddy bear.
@@Drachinifel may the AlGoreRythm smile on you (and us all) soon and very soon!:-) 🖖
Good video 📹
Do a video on the battle of surigao straight
If U156 identified the sub sent to intercept it would it have been smarter to stay surfaced and out of the minefield, or was the risk of taking a torpedo on the surface what drove her to dive?
Yeah... Staying on the surface when you know you are being stalked by another submarine probably not good for your health
Sometimes one gets up early enough to make an early though useless comment.
05:29 - What ws she doing in the Liverpools Albert Dock? 0_o lol
Much like in a dogfight where getting your opponent to intersect the ground still counts as a kill, I guess in this case L8 could at least claim a 'probable'.
I'd count it as a manoeuvering kill.
Wargaming is taking notes.
No they don't - period.
Hey I was wondering could you do the USS Gudgeon please
With a Gudgeon in the fleet, it's surprising they never had a USS Pintle . They could have operated in close proximity and swung around to support each other. Keeping an eye out for enemies and steering the fleet in to meet them.
Hey man can u talk about the Randolph and Nicholas biddle
Question?
I see only two guns on the submarine.
Where are the other two guns?
Surely, the 88's are too heavy to haul up from below whenever they use them?
NOTE: Never mind. I just found out where they were. Ingenious.
'The Krupp mount retracted vertically through a hatch, while the Erhardt version folded down onto the ship's deck.'
she was one of the worlds first Cruiser Submarines
Can u plz do the uss ranger and uss Alabama
Does anyone know the name of the vessel at 1:16 and 5:07
does anyone else find themselves stopping and looking up
the various ships that get mentioned in these guides?
Have you done anything on mine warfare ?
oh no. The poor thing.