Ranking ALL of the original SPACE MARINE LEGIONS | Warhammer 40k & Horus Heresy
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Its time to get spicy again. This time we are ranking all the original Space Marine legions for Warhammer 40k!
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Kieran’s list is great, so much better than Kieran’s!
I dunno I think Kieran's list was pretty good
We see you.
So I am here to explain why I like the ones I do that got bad ratings:
Alpha Legion: honestly I love the trickster, no one knows where they are with you, type of vibe and deal, it's just something that appeals to me generally(In TTRPG's I tend to favour tricksters or run up and smash your face in and tank hits like a brick wall) so they just tickle my fancy.
Salamanders: I just like the juxtaposition they have with the imperium conceptually. The caring vs the Uncaring and all that.
but ultimately space marines are a faction that I generally don't get much out of so it was really interesting to hear the opinions of people who clearly are more into them than me.
The trickster thing is interesting! Very riddler
1) Imperial Fists
2) Ultramarines
3) Salamanders
4) Emperor's Children
5) Dark Angels
My number surprises no one I'm sure
Ultras and Sallies at 2 and 3 👀👀
@@the_kieran_show i know.... Ultras should be 1, imperial fists should be nowhere in sight...just bootleg ultras ;)
@@cryptshadow682those blueberries deserve to be low, like the little shrubs they grow from
Who here is alparius
I am alparius
Hydra Dominatus!
The imperial Fists were actually wiped out during the battle of Ardamantua except for one marine who became the leader of the Imperium for a bit
the remade the chapter with members of other legions and eventually started making new ones, but technically the chapter was destroyed.
this was all during the rise of 'The Beast' which is an amazing series of books about the Orks
Will give it a look!
18. Ravenguard (Too emo)
17. Word Bearers (Just not enough for what they should have)
16. Alpha Legion (They get points for being tall so they can actually do the Alpharius thing seriously)
15. Iron Hands (Alot better than Ferrus, still dislike 'em)
14. White Scars (Too fast)
13. Space Wolves (Too furry-ous)
12. World Eaters (Too aggressive, but damn the tabletop is sick)
11. Death Guard (Way better than Morty, great asthetic but still ehh)
10. Thousand Sons (Necrons and Grey Knights do it better)
9. Blood Angels (Nice red. Vampires)
8. Emperor's Children (that one Noise Marine model puts them here)
7. Night Lords (Great colors, great trilogy)
6. Iron warriors (Kinda carried by Peter, but his structuring & leadership of the legion is part of why he's great so it works)
5. Ultramarines (They deserve their spot)
4. Imperial Fist (Basic, but in the best way. Great foundation for more)
3. Luna Wolves, Sons of Horus, Black Legion (Just great)
2. Salamanders (Hot take, love the colors and the contrast of nice but demonic looking giant)
1. Dark Angels (The first, the strongest, the best in 30k. 40k Fallen are great too)
Dark angels first, things you love to see!
Oh the Alpha Legion is so much more than that, but pour one out for Pech indeed
What I love about the Alpha Legion is that they value their human agents even if they are willing to sacrifice them, almost as much sometimes as they value their own brothers. They will throw themselves into danger to save just a guy that believes in them, but they will be just as ready to send that man to die if it furthers their goals. It's a great dichotomy of "you matter, but you have a job to do."
I also love where they are in 40k, where each warband of Alpha Legion is following what they think was the mission from the primarchs, and they are all probably wrong. I just love that.
Legion is my favorite Horus Heresy book too though, so I am fully biased. Definitely recommend Harrowmaster for 40k Alpha Legion
Also, Sangy is best boy
Also also, still liked the video, thanks for another great video boys!
Some interesting picks there! Legion as favourite book is very left field!
18. Iron Hands (I hate them in every way, lore, primarch, look,... the best thing about them was being pwned right at the start of HH)
17. Death Guard (I hate Morty and them appearing everywhere while having the Nurgle silliness takes away too much of the horror - made me sick of them...)
16. Imperial Fists (the reason their successors are so well fleshed out is because they have no personality in the first place - they look as speedbumps on the road and are as interesting)
15. Salamanders (I don't like their scheme, hate the fake drow skin and eyes, overall they are boring)
14. Word Bearers (they serve the purpose of bad guys of the setting, but are bland)
13. Iron Warriors (their armies can look soooo good, but that's about it... they are more interesting IF)
12. Raven Guard (I love the concept around their warfare, but I grew up with punk and always looked down at emo... RG are wannabe edgelords)
11. World Eaters (tragic story, but too one dimensional)
10. Ultramarines (too bland to hate, too bland to like)
9. Blood Angels (just the good guys... honestly they could be even lower with their pseudo 'evil trait' - 'Vampires' - boohoo... yeah, they are fine, but also nothing entertaining about them)
8. Emperor's Children (crazy - love their descend into madness, they feel off and absurd and it works)
7. Space Wolves (in theory they could be a top three, but then you read their lore and realise what cringy hypocrites they are... Russ is the worst... and the werewolf thing went too far... ridding giant wolves?... c'mon... they are this high because I love to hate them)
6. Sons of Horus (don't care about the Black Legion, but the OGs are what gets the story going)
5. Night Lords (love them as villians, love their traces of 'loyalist-terror-to-save-lives-because-we-are-more-humane-than-the others' ... Curz was a bit meh)
4. Alpha Legion (... I'm of two minds - they could be a Keyser Söze-story or just 'I'm Alpharius' then they would join the bottom... but I like their approach to warfare - turning planets on themselves - even though sneaky infiltrating SM is still stupid)
3. Thousand Sons (Magnus was wrong - and arrogant - but his legion was cool - and arrogant - and Ahriman rocks)
2. White Scars (if you want cool, not pathetic Space Wolves, you go with White Scars - also the most common sense legion and Primarch... If they had a dedicated range and I wouldn't already have a Ravenwing I would play them)
1. Dark Angels (got into them in the 90s, since they got lore and best troubled Primarch - lore has too much meme-Asomdai, but the concept is great, even if the execution is somewhat meh)
White scars 2nd is hella interesting!
Ranking loyalist legions (least to most favorite)
9. Space Wolves
8. White Scars
7. Imperial Fists
6. Iron Hands
5. Salamanders
4. Raven Guard
3. Ultramarines
2. Blood Angels
1. Dark Angels
This is a great order!
Raven Guard always feel like they were meant to be a chaos legion but they realised they had too many
And their primarch turned into a form of weather…
In 10 years there is a video called top Stormcast Eternals Legions .Gameswork Shop would love that ,money wise
Yeah can see that being a thing 😂
I don't know why they didn't split the wolves into feral chapters and viking chapters
True! Some sub chapters for the SW we'd 100% be down for.
Agreed I think you need to split some between 30k and 40k as they are pretty different
The Alpha Legion are a specialist Legion. The Night Lords are terror specialists. The Raven Guard specialize in more general stealth. The White Scars specialize in speed and hit and run tactics. The Dark Angels specialized in operational security and WMD. The Alpha Legion specialize in infiltration. They infiltrate power structures, embed agents, hide Astartes in place until ready to strike. Like the Night Lords they don't fight honestly. As for I am Alpharius? Alpharius is the public face of the ALpha Legion. There is Alpharius the Primarch and Alpharius the role. An Alpha Legionnaire refusing the give his name and using the shared identity of Alpharius is just denying foes more information. If you really like Legions like the Imperial Fists then you are not likely to find the Alpha Legion palatable. The Alpha Legion would not be bland enough for you.....
Imperials fists were a little bland before the recent Siege of Terra series. They really came into their own.
@@the_kieran_show I do need to read those books. But currently I am not a fan of Dorn or his sons. I did enjoy the War of the Beast books but in general I find them to be dull.
@@the_kieran_show For Alpha Legion stories Legion, The Seventh Serpent, The Serpent Beneath and especially Alpharius: The Head of the Hydra. If you want to see a poorly written and incompetent Alpharius humbled by his oh so superior big bro you can read Praetorian of Dorn. But don't. It is shite.
Fun video. Now rank each Legion in order of daddy issues 😃
Now this is the list we want to see.
Favorites:
Death Guard (The aesthetic, the commitment to the bit, and I love painting them)
Alpha Legion (The deception and misdirection, the color scheme, and I am Alpharius BTW)
Blood Angels (What's not to love about space vampires?)
Least:
World Eaters (Utterly boring rage monkeys, great models though)
Ultra Marines (The official poster boys for milk toast)
Poster boys for milk toast 😂
thought world eaters were boring until i read betrayer, somehow managed to make the reader feel bad for both Angron and the legion
Yeah it’s a great book!
Asmodai take you Kieran for putting iron fists over dark angels...
If he can see me through all his smoke….
"can't put black legion top for 1 character"
Iskhandar
lheor
Telemachon
Urkanthos
All absolutely awesome
It's hard to disagree. The legion with the most sauce for sure.
Finally! Been waiting for this ranking :)
Let's goooo
Really loved the alpharius book
Is that the singular primarch series one? I have heard good things about that one
Wolves and Night Lords you heathens. You just mad Leman broke Magnus the baby's back XD
OF COURSE I AM 😂
What are Imperial Fists up to in 40k? Prolly still getting stomped by Iron Warriors.
They made the most fire sub chapters and then gave up.
now do one over every chapter ever mentioned, best of luck and all that
Oh good grief 😂
When someone tells me that their least favorite legion is Alpha Legion, I am sure that it's just all part of a complicated plot to hide their true allegiance, especially when they are wearing a blue shirt.
Circles within circles
I am Alpharius. And i feel attacked.
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My favorite legions are the Dark Angels and the Alpha Legion. I like them both because they conduct warfare the way I would. Alpha legion infiltrating and basically trying to win the war before the enemy knows they are fighting one. When it comes to conventional forces, I like the wings set up of the dark angels. It just makes tactical sense to use their specialized formations.
Are you the emperor of mankind….?
A new video, a fresh opportunity for the Kierans to hate my armies.
Word Bearers #1 lads. They gifted you the 40k. Erebus is greatest hero.
It’s not intentional! Erebus totally powered up for siege of terra!
I am Alpharius and I agree with the ranking.
Disregard us further at your own peril while we work.
Ps. I assume you read 'Legion'.
Legion was just such a hard read 😭😭😭
i gotta agree, Leman Russ sucks
Oh for sure.
For me I’d say it’s this:
18. Iron Hands
17. Raven Guard
16. Sons of Horus
15. Imperial Fists
14. Word Bearers
13. Ultramarines
12. Death Guard
11. Emperor’s Children
10. Dark Angels
9. Night Lords
8. Iron Warriors
7. Space Wolves
6. World Eaters
5. Salamanders
4. Blood Angels
3. Thousand Sons
2. White Scars
1. Alpha Legion
While I absolutely love the 30k special Armors, color and premise of the Alpha Legion, I passed starting with them because I didn’t want to JUST paint basic CSM in alpha legion colors and I didn’t feel confident tracking down the heresy models as my first models, and I didn’t feel confident painting white and red so I ended up going with my third favorite legion, with the added benefit of being largely ok buying Tzeentch Chaos Daemons alongside because the 1KSons are Tzeentchy dust boys.
Oooo some really interesting placings here! White scars number 2 is left field!
@@the_kieran_showdespite the pain to paint, I actually really like the white scars’ colors and the fact that they are the humble marines because they fight because it is their duty and because it is their honor. They don’t fight for glory and fame, nor boast of their exploits. It’s why in lore they are even less known amongst those with the knowledge of the existence of different legions/chapters. It’s all so cool to me and their want for speed is just fun!
1. Imperial Fists
2. White Scars
3. Blood Angels
4. World Eaters
5. Thousand Suns
6. Dark Angels
7. Space Wolves
8. Black Legion
9. Raven Guard
10. Salamanders
Imperial fists number 1 ❤️
Love this and the Primarch ranking - more tier lists please!
Our wish is your command!
mf really said imperial fists are the best legion
Brain rot is a thing 🤡
Lords of silence for death guard is brilliant. Definitely made me want to get a death gaurd army…. Night lords best 40k books
Oooooh we'll give it a look!
Completely agree, Black Legion in a battered SoH colour scheme would look SIIIICK!
Oh now we're talking
2:58 Don’t get circles within circles!? You’re a Dark Angels simp 😂😂
Dark angels make them cool
Now do the successor chapters, you cowards.
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@@the_kieran_show If you're still looking for a good book: "Spear of the Emperor" by Aaron Dembski-Bowden.
Having never read any heresy books and being pretty unbothered by the lore, this is my ranking based on vibes alone
18. Raven Guard (a bit edge-lordy)
17. Death Guard
16. Iron Hands
15. Imperial Fists
14. Sons of Horus
13. Emperors Children
12. Word Bearers
11. World Eaters (My brother has them and beats my every time)
10. White Scars
9. Ultramarines
8. Iron Warriors
7. Alpha Legion (love the metal colour as well)
6. Dark Angels
5. Space Wolves (ignoring obvious models)
4. Blood Angels
3. Thousand Sons
2. Night Lords
1. Salamanders (I play them)
Salamanders top is interesting!
@@the_kieran_show what can I say, I'm a big fan of flamers
Opinions on all colour schemes of all black legion, sons of horus and Luna wolves . I think all are great
10/10 every time.
ave dominus nox
Our brother in midnight clad
Read the Word Bearers trilogy and you’ll see how much more substance the Word Bearers have in 40k.
First Heretic, Know No Fear, Mark of Calth, Aurelian and Betrayer add even more to the legion than just “Erebus is a scrub”
Right hand Kieran has read all of those. First heretic is one the best HH books in the whole series!
Okay so one of you is handsome and the other has correct opinions. i see how this is.
😂😂😂
Love your work guys. Discovered you two a month ago and binged nearly all your videos since. Also Kieran when do you stop shaving your beard and start shaving your chest? Haha. Keep it up guys!!
If I didn't make clear shaving gaps I'm 100% I'd look like a wookie. Great to have you with us mate!
@@the_kieran_show Wookiees ain’t so bad 😂
Kieran putting DA second has made me rethink life itself. Fire list tho, except NL should be first 😉
Hahaha it was a shock to us all!
Tiny Watchers!
Smol ppl
Never read any 30k books, so I am going only by looks, style and 40k lore. And from that point of few, Salamanders and Alpha Legion rock! Black Legion (and Abaddon) is pretty cool as well. As for Imperial Fists, I think I would rank them pretty low simply because painting yellow sucks to much. :P
Yellow it’s easy! It’s all in the pink undercoat
Alpha legion technically is first and last… or is it…
Who knows! They certainly don’t 😂
Space wolves are my number 1. But i do agree they need a refresh. Im kitbashing + greenstuffing them into what i envision them to be. And yeah, logan grimnar on that stupid sled sucks. If they arent on the next release roadmap ill have to just do it all myself.
What sort of aesthetic would you lean towards? Grisly or clean?
Definitely grisly. Working on some Hellblasters now. Lots off battle damage. Greenstuff pelts. Made some viking style hair cuts with greenstuff. Gave 1 a shaved head look using apothecary white. Next up im gonna use the assault intercessors to make some blood claws.@the_kieran_show
Woah that space wolf ranking wtf
Low for the known protectors of the downtrodden
I mean they down trod the Thousand Sons pretty bad 😂
Whats wrong with louis?
It’s just not as powerful as “Dante” 😂
For the emperor... and perfection 😌
bro you're called ahriman wtf
@@kelakogreenaddict1888 well ''for the emperor'' is also the emperors children battlecry even in 40k and my pfp is from 30k emperors children. And my second favourite legion are the thousand sons. And ahriman is the best traitor character. So...
Gillyweed!! 😂😂😂 I am DYING. Harry Potterman! Glug! Glug! Glug!
We have to own the HP references
Kieran's take on the UM....as kieran said... is wrong. so wrong.... a poorman's liion?! a poor mand lions?!?! someone hold me back!!!!
FIGHT ME LIKE GULLIMAN FOUGHT AT TERRA, OH WAIT
DARK ANGELS!?
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Abaddon is just the 40K Darth Vader. Change my mind.
A) he’s cooler b) he’s COOLER C) HE IS COOLER
@@the_kieran_show 1000%
Probably just me, but I hate Ultramarines because I really, really hate that particular shade of blue 😂
What blues do you like? 🤓
@@the_kieran_show more of an Alpha Legion teal.
Alpha Legion, Having arguably the best Primarch Book and top five HH books in Legion, at 18 because lol Alpharius Reddit memes. Then White Scars at 14 when they have 2 top tier HH books in Scars, play an enormous role in the Siege of Terra, and Jaghatai gets 14 because herp derp we fast? You told me everything I need to know about your channel. Hard pass.
No not just because Reddit memes. Not a fan of spies or that level of subterfuge. Really didnt rate Legion and honestly really didnt enjoy the White Scars heresy books. Just each to their own and there is no correct order. Like what you like (or dont in this case) 🤷
Waaaay too much wolf and not enough viking. Every second word is wolf. It's exhausting.
Totally!
Horrible, nonsensical list. All I can offer is the comment making video activity. By your specifications being book action and model range, Space Wolves, Ultramarines and Salamanders should be WAY HIGHER. Especially the Spacw Wolves, their miniature range and lore is ridiculously good!
Username checks out 😂
Curious to see why you say Salamanders? Beyond Istvaan they don’t see a great deal of action compared to others (their solo HH books are good though, really enjoyed Deathfire). Also their miniature range is none existent 😂
Not even watched yet but I know you’re going to shit on Raven Guard 😿
Soz
New warhammer fans opinion mostly based off of looks n cool factor:
18. Space wolves: Ugly ass colour scheme n I don’t care about Vikings and leeman russ sucks
17. Imperial fists: also really dislike the yellow and red look reminds me of Tonka trucks and they’re boring
16. Ultramarines: not insanely into the Roman look and the blue also mostly boring but I’ve been brainwashed into hating them by warhammer fans
15. Night lords: conrad sucks and they’re just depraved evil mfs that r edgy for the sake of being edgy
14. Black legion: Horus L and they’re boring and the black and gold is my least favourite chaos scheme
13. White scars: the khan is really cool and they’re shtick of the speed and such is cool so they’re higher up but their colour scheme almost ties with space wolves for how ugly it is to me
12. Iron hands: they look cool and the flesh is weak thing is dope but they’re boring past that and Ferrus manus sucks
11. Thousand sons: I may just not know enough about them but I think they’re just kinda mid to me they have cool lore aspects and models but I just don’t care personally
10. Raven guard: after learning about them more they’re concept is really cool and Corvus corax being a giant bird demon is awesome but they just don’t have enough to go higher they have potential tho
9. Salamanders: Vulcan is an S tier primarch and the friendly space marine is cool and fire is cool but that’s where it ends for me plus the current shade of green mixed w orange is not my favourite look
8. World eaters: they’re heresy look and modern look r both cool they have great lore and they’re just straight to the point but still have some interesting depth and tragedy to them
7. Dark angels: great characters great primarch great look especially the heresy one rly cool lore and interesting depth with the fallen and their paranoia plus chaplains r cool
6. Blood angels: top tier primarch great colour scheme and models rly cool angelic vampire look and great characters and lore with the red thirst and black rage n all that
5. Death guard: Morty is eh but the death guard look so awesome and scary and their lore is great good characters love all the nurgle rot stuff and if u haven’t seen the hammer and bolter episode about them u gotta it made me love them even more
4. Word bearers: amazing lore for me Erebus and lorgar r great villains their shtick of being basically evil satanists is awesome and their look especially heresy era is great (we need 40k models)
3. Alpha legion: I get why ppl dislike them but I think they’re stupid in an awesome way their lore is hilarious and badass and they have easily my favourite colour scheme
2. Iron warriors: I love the lore of them basically turning traitor just out of being petty assholes and spite plus perturabo is such a great asshole and their whole dark industrial steampunky look is amazing and demon engines r badass
1. Emperors children: their look is beautiful in both eras and fulgrim is my favourite primarch easily and their lore is incredible easily my favourite the symphony that made them fall to slanesh fully is one of my favourite stories and lastly, noise marines r the coolest thing in 40K change my mind.
Imperial fists at 17 💔
Ffs am I gonna start a black legion army 😂
Yessss goooooood
I bought some possessed 😂
eww list
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