SO WHY DIDN'T MICHELLEASK HIM WHERE WAS HIS WIFE? HE DIDN'T SEEM WORRIED, WANTING TO KNOW WHERE THE MOTHER OF HIS CHILDREN WAS...NO ONE SEMMED TO CARE, WHY??
When smart people feign ignorance you know they’re guilty. I don’t think she’d be one to commit crimes on her own unfortunately she let that ladies man con her and now she threw her life away. All that education to waste.
She knew exactly what he did. If she didn't know, she would be questioning everything that was happening. She was obviously happy that Jennifer was gone. She is just as guilty as Dulos.
When he said jump, she said how high? Lesson to teach your daughters: NEVER DATE A MARRIED MAN. Whatever cr@p they do to wife, they will do to girlfriend too.
She is a manipulator nasty evil woman 👠 🤮 gold 🥇 digger she thought Dulos was rich he was living in the beautiful house worth 5 million dollars 💰 if she knew this guy was broke definitely not go for him at all she said Jennifer should be buried next to the dog 🐶 who says anything like that Jennifer was gentle beautiful girl who was special love her kids didn't deserve what happened to her RIP ❤ beautiful 🌸🍀🌹
The Defense Attorney has a lot of bad facts to contend with. He has provided a zealous defense, and MT was well represented. It’s going to be the small details and facts that the jurors will have to weigh. After listening to this trial for weeks, and hearing the evidence, I would find her guilty. We will see though!
Not only does he not know his nose from his toes at this stage, but he also has to keep putting up with post-it notes written by the defendant being passed to him. Talk about trying to control!!
As a lawyer, I don't understand why her defense attorney did not advise her NOT to talk to the police at all. I get it that narcissists think they can gaslight everyone and that they're smarter than everyone, but in this case, a lot of the evidence against Michelle was from the inconsistencies from her interviews with the police. To watch her attorney sitting there while she jabbers away at the detectives is almost painful. I'm glad though, because she was convicted. Criminals don't get how the truth works. Great job from the prosecution in using the inconsistencies during interrogations to support their position and secure justice.
ty jury, judge and prosecutors healing and comfort to the Farber children and their grandmother who shows so much class and grace only tears when found guilty, typical narc sociopath
@@tracy6756been planning sense 2017, in my personal opinion. It took some time they both thought it was the perfect murder! For Michelle I feel like he had her head over hills and all she wanted was to be his wife and a great stepmom to his children and when that wasn’t happening, She made him buckle down. She is arrogant.
I find her just calm and specific .. I much prefer to listen to her than the def attorney. I can follow her way of presenting information. I just about believe her over the defense. It’s a little challenging to decide.. wish I had the amount of information the jury will have. Those little important details. I think it could go either way. We will see soon. So curious of how long they will to decide… humm I think a few days. 🌷
I have a theory as to what happened to Jennifer’s body. They said her scent went to the railroad tracks, correct? Fotis has family & other connections in Greece so it could be Jennifer’s body was put in some type of container for shipment after it was taken to the railroad and her body was covered in something to keep it from picking up a scent any further & covered in lime or some other substance that would make her body decay quickly & then someone or ones were at the railroad to pick it up to ship it overseas to Greece by ship on a seafood boat for instance, for somebody that Fotis knows so they can dispose of Jennifer’s body once it gets to Greece. The Lime or whatever substance that would make her body decay quickly & would also keep it from smelling badly, especially if it were on a seafood boat because those boats/ships smell awful anyway. That could also be what the hint of the 3:30 time meant, for someone to be at the railroad at 3:30 to pick up the container with Jennifer’s body in it. Fotis seemed to have everything else planned so well, I cannot see him leaving out HOW he was going to DISPOSE of her body AFTER he murdered Jennifer. Fotis knew it was going to have to be a plan so well thought out that her body could NEVER be found, NO trace at all! Something like this has to be the only explanation since the Detectives (dogs I guess) smelled her scent to the railroad. It could be there was a freight train with empty boxcars coming down the track slowly at that time of day and the container with Jennifer’s body and whoever that was going to ship her body overseas got on that boxcar, then they got off on down they line at a designated place. It makes me wonder if the Detectives checked to see if there was a freight train coming through at that time of day Jennifer was murdered? I pray Jennifer, her 5 precious children, her family, and all the one that love her so very much get JUSTICE for Jennifer !!! They ALL deserve JUSTICE for Jennifer’s sake and I pray her body is found so Jennifer can have a proper burial !!! NO spouse deserves to die at the hands of the one that promised to love and protect them for the rest of their life !!! This hits to the core of my heart cause I was almost in her shoes, beat by a spouse, left to die, almost bled to death, but I survived, thank the Lord! Michelle you are just as bad as Fotis by helping him covering up for him the murder of his wife Jennifer! Michelle, you may as well have been right there with him while he was killing Jennifer, by you lying for Fotis !!! I feel sorry for women like you that defend men by acting ignorant. I can see it if you were afraid of him and were in fear for your life. But Fotis cannot hurt you now, so tell the TRUTH. NO you have kept on lying over and over. Videos don’t lie! Michelle that could have been you instead of Jennifer! JUSTICE FOR JENNIFER & her FIVE CHILDREN !!!
From what Jon said, she didn’t . And he was angry about it. Said her first atty should never have marched her in to talk to cops without an agreement in hand.
@@lisakhan7514 She would have been if she hadn't kept lying and if Fotis had not died. And, as time went on…all the evidence supported her involvement.
Exactly. THAT is why this jury was turned off by him..if his client was truly innocent defense would admit fully to fotis being the killer. He would be understanding to Jennifer and her family. He would be compassionate and honest about the murder. THEN he would talk about how his client was clueless. But he didn't and he tried to deny that Jennifer was even dead and like you said kept going back and forth is she dead or is she not? He was a total dumbass defense attorney.
Why did defense defend Fotus. That was his first mistake. He could have defended her while blaming him. He was weak and grating. The volume of his voice was tiring and exhausting. Less is more. He was rude and condescending toward witnesses and the judge. He insulted intelligent and seasons police and detectives. Typical attitude of many. Sad.
I think the fact that she was coming and going-less than 20 minutes at the home or driving to and from 80 Moutain Spring Road and their home at 4 Farmington Rd. It is suspicious that someone would light a fire or noticeable smoke would bellow from the fireplace shortly she arrives. Plus, it was a warm day. Even if she lit the fire to enjoy the ambience of a fire, as her friend….Petu testified, it's hard to believe that someone would light a fire if they were enjoying the fire for its ambience. Who lights a fire and leave with 10 minutes or less.
I don't believe she has a brain on her own she was in to Dulos because she figured guy was rich why she went for him when he was marry at the time with 5 kids she was looking for the easy ticket for her ride in life nothing is free Michelle didn't know the money 🤑 was from Jennifer family after the divorce he was with 0 zero he own few million dollars for Jennifer parents
DdO NOT UUSE THE EXCUSE THAT SHE DOESN'T SPEAK GOOD ENGLISH...OF COURSE, BECAUSE SHE IS FROM ANOTHHER CCOUNTRY AND RACE...BUT SHE UNDERSTANDS EVERYTHING IN ENGLISH... DON'T MAKE POOR EXCUSES... AND SHE USES "EH" IN BETWEEN WORDS, JUST LIKE 👍 YOU PEOPLE USE "UM" SEVERAL TMES WHILE TALKING...WE DO THAT WHILE WAITING FOR THE NEXT WORD WE ARE GOING TO SAY, LIKE A PAUCE!
YOU SURE LOVE TO TELL OTHER PEOPLE WHAT TO DO & HOW TO THINK... GOOD LORD.. GIVE IT A REST.. WE GET IT YOUR THE CHEERLEADER HERE. BUT GOOD LORD DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF.. SPEAKING IN CAPS JUST IN CASE YOU CANT HEAR ME....
@@brennak3896with respect -learn to write in proficient English- there is a difference between ‘your’ which is possessive (your coat) and ‘you’re’ which is another way of writing you are (you are a space cadet 😂)
MAYBE SHE'LL HAVE ANOTHER TRIAL AND SHE'LL TELL THE TRUTH, BECAUSE SHE HAS NOTHING ELSE TO LOSE...HER LOVER WOULD RATHER KILL HIMSELF AND LEFT HER HOLDING THE "BAG"....SHE HAS NOTHING TO LOSE BUT HER DAUGHTER, AND HER OWN FREEDOM... IS THAT NOTHING???SHE SHOULD ASK HERSELF 🤔 THAT!!! WILL SHE HAVE ANOTHET CHANCE TO LET THOSE 5 CHILDREN WHAT HAPPENED TO THEIR MOM???😢!
She wouldnt testified she knew she would have got caught up in more lies when you lie your not innocent no reason to lie but cover for yourself or someone else fotis she put fotis before her daughter
As a regular with the Law & Crime Channel, the prosecution closing argument in this case is the most boring I have heard in a long time. The female state attorney lack of court presence was obvious. Defence suddenly became humble during closing .. perhaps too humble … I guess he was being careful not to screw it up
Probably needs more experience- we all have to start somewhere. I am sure whatever job you are doing - you are more proficient today than you were on day 1 in starting that job? She’s doing her best 😊
She did great. She just have not gained the experience with theatrics due to her time in the field. As someone who is familiar with moot courts, lawyers take acting courses to hone their court presence and delivery. Her facts were there, cohesive and plausible, which is what mattered.
What’s the story behind wife’s phone connecting to car at 2:56 pm, hours after the disappearance and Fotis confirmed back in Farmington? obv the jury didn’t think so, but to me, that is reasonable doubt. Also Jon said cops didn’t pursue it, that’s scary, isn’t it their duty??
They have said that the phone was connected to one of the iPads the kids had…. Or something like that… the nanny had the Range Rover in NY at that point so it literally couldn’t have been the actual phone.
@@heliumfiasco I meant the cell phone connected to the Suburban that was found that night at the park. From what Shoenhorn said in closings, the cops knew about that but never bothered to follow up on it because it didn't fit their charge....? That seems evil if true as maybe it could have answered a lot of questions. Also, if they are saying MT answered FD's phone in the morning to give him an alibi, why wouldn't she have answered all of his texts so cops couldn't say "Look! he didn't respond to texts until 1:00 p.m. because he was too busy in New Canaan causing a menance with his ex wife...? Just seems a lot of unanswered questions that I was surprised were allowed to be brushed away. Anyone's thoughts?
@@lisakhan7514I'm not sure that it "didn't fit their charge" in many murder cases there are unknown variables. Why? Because the victim is dead and the killer is going to lie, about everything. I'm unsure what Jennifer's phone connecting changes for you. Either way fotis is seen taking the Tacoma to Waveny Park to kill Jennifer then driving her suburban to a Waveny Park then taking the Tacoma to the newly built house, michelle goes to that house and back home 5x then they go get rid of Jennifer's bloody clothes etc. Does a random phone connection change any of that? I wouldn't think so since we saw all that on cctv. I'm pretty sure that suburban was left running because when they found it was in reverse, you cannot turn the vehicle off while it's in gear. Jennifer's phone was actually never found and two things to keep in mind are that Kent hasn't had his trial yet so we don't know his part in this and it's important to remember fotis was really trying to sell that bogus gone girl bs, that Jennifer ran away. So he may have had Kent take the phone and drive by the suburban just to have the phone connect before tossing it. Or I've seen others speculate maybe Fotis tossed the phone in a bush and a kid found it and turned it on and it connected, either way it doesn't change the fact fotis went and killed her and then him and michelle cleaned up and tossed the evidence. The facts are the facts and we are able to see most of their timeline that day on cctv. michelle isn't charged with murder or even being near New Canaan so I don't see how the phone has anything to do with michelle tampering with evidence (tossing the bloody clothes & cleaning the Tacoma), hindering prosecution (lying to police providing an alibi for fotis) or conspiring to commit murder. As for "why wouldn't she answer all texts" she only had his phone from 6am till around 1pm when he got back right? Well she started manipulating it the second she got up at 6, unlocking it several times, walking around with it, then answering the 1 planned phone call. I'm sure it's obvious why she didn't answer other calls cause others would've clearly said she answered, not fotis and I don't think she answered texts because she was busy and she was in and out of the house, if you remember she made her daughter breakfast and took her to school, returned the woman's purse that forgot it at their house during the dinner party the night before and went to see Petu and say goodbye cause petu was going on a trip. I think she made a point of being busy that morning and stopping at the house in between to quickly unlock the phone and walk around with it a bit to make it seem like he was home and she was running errands. I think Kent was at the house in case she didn't get back in time to answer that call, it's a little too convenient for all 3 to be in the office at the exact time he told his friend to call. From the few texts I did see (I believe there was 5) 3 asked him to call, and they all seemed to be about work. She answered the 1 he told her to answer, the planned one.
There was absolutely no evidence on conspire to murder. There was on the other charges. For those of you celebrating, you might want to think twice if you were ever in her shoes, you would want the jury more open minded without evidence. Our whole mantra is innocent till proven guilty, and they did not give her that right. Like her or hate her, homewrecker or not she has rights, and I believe the jury got that charge wrong. And so do so many. if you can point out the evidence to the conspire to murder, I would love to hear it. Please post it.
(Zoë’s Mum) There is plenty against her- driving round dumping evidence for a start! MT cleaned up Jennifer’s blood!!!You need to watch all of the available tapings- police interviews etc etc. MT IS guilty 100%👏🏻
Disagree and I am a retired investigator with more than 28 years in the field. You just APPEAR to not clearly understand what elements make up conspiracy to murder.
Prosecutor court presence is not very good. She seems really nervous and her voice pitch and tone is very monotonous about murder. Very mousy. I bet that will matter in the end.
As long as she got all the important items outta her mouth it wont matter how mousey anyone thinks she is.. This chic needs to go to jail, with all the evidence its so obvious she knew it & was involved in it, & her fake BS with her language barrier is just that- BS, she now all the sudden decides to speak her native language.. All the sudden.. Yeah OK.. Disgusting & so obvious. let her rot!
You don't seem to realize that people will for no good reason or without thinking it through. How many criminal do we see in court day in and day out who do the dumbest most senseless killings when they have nothing to gain. But here due to both coming from extreme wealth thought they'd get away with it.
She didn't do the murder, she was happy to go along with the clean up etc though and was really happy toasting to the day of the murder and happy the following day knowing jennifer was missing while she sat at the hairdressers all happy. she even looked shady at Starbucks on camera all defensive arms folded and fidgety.
There is no way on this earth that her lover would murder his wife and be able to be normal around her. He needed her help. He needed her understanding about what would be really strange behaviour he would undoubtedly have after the deed. She was suspicious of him all the time , always questioning, she KNEW , she assisted. She lived with him, she had sex with him on the passenger side of the tacoma (poor pawel, i hope he washed it again after 🤢) it's like a claim to victory or something sick. Just a really odd thing to do. She's a liar when it matters most that's a FACT. Doesn't matter how small the evidence was. It WAS there in the bag with the blood and items SHE just brought over. Her DNA.
Michelle was in an intimate relationship with Fotos...they had pillow talk about this plan to kill, dismember and hide the evidence. She was in on it. She never showed any concern for Jennifer well being or her disappearance.ared to be in financial failure. Fotos had nothing without Jennifer. Her father backed Fotos dream to own a luxury high end construction business. which appeared to be in ruins.
Unfortunately the defense has been crap.. a better attorney would have shown the jury that Michelle did not take part in plottimg Jennifer"s murder... Pawel should go to jail..his hands are bloody
ummm..she was celebratory toasting day prior to murder she aided in manipulating his phone as an alibi AS HE WAS COMMITTING THE MURDER she burned evidence and travelled back and forth five times day of murder she is on video helping him dump bloodied clothing evidence all over hartford she lied multiple times in false alibi GUILTY AS CAN BE AND PROVEN TO BE
Other than answering the phone from an international call, what else shows conspiracy. I agree she was guilty on the rest, but as a person who wants a fair trial for every American. I don’t know that it was proven about the conspiracy to murder. I think the jury got it wrong.@@heddaszczepanski9210
No way is she innocent. Guilty as charged! What a dreadful woman. She knew her boyfriend had 5 young children! Those poor kids have now lost both their parents. She thought he was wealthy but he was heavily in debt!
@@lisakhan7514that’s why there is a jury. They dont have a hidden agenda. They neither win nor lose - they just give their verdict after considering all the facts!
These prosecutors did AMAZING!! So proud of them! Justice for Jennifer and her family 💜💜💜💜
I think she’s guilty
what a great judge!
The judge was amazing! So dignified throughout the entire trial
SO WHY DIDN'T MICHELLEASK HIM WHERE WAS HIS WIFE? HE DIDN'T SEEM WORRIED, WANTING TO KNOW WHERE THE MOTHER OF HIS CHILDREN WAS...NO ONE SEMMED TO CARE, WHY??
She didn't ask she knew Jennifer was dead u can't put the piece together
The bag with bloody clothes off Jennifer had DNA off Michelle on it
@@annadembowska1160 That’s the point the commenter is making 🙄
When smart people feign ignorance you know they’re guilty. I don’t think she’d be one to commit crimes on her own unfortunately she let that ladies man con her and now she threw her life away. All that education to waste.
I think she wanted to believe him but I don’t think she planned a murder
She knew exactly what he did. If she didn't know, she would be questioning everything that was happening. She was obviously happy that Jennifer was gone. She is just as guilty as Dulos.
Exactly she was in conspiracy to commit murder
When he said jump, she said how high? Lesson to teach your daughters: NEVER DATE A MARRIED MAN. Whatever cr@p they do to wife, they will do to girlfriend too.
If i were innocent ,why would i kill myself..i would want to stay alive to take care of my 5 children,,,,,
Poor mother having to go through that! Michelle...just tell them what happened.
Omg. She's wearing the nanny's sweater
Entitled evil person standing behind wealth . RIP Jennifer .
She is a manipulator nasty evil woman 👠 🤮 gold 🥇 digger she thought Dulos was rich he was living in the beautiful house worth 5 million dollars 💰 if she knew this guy was broke definitely not go for him at all she said Jennifer should be buried next to the dog 🐶 who says anything like that
Jennifer was gentle beautiful girl who was special love her kids didn't deserve what happened to her
RIP ❤ beautiful 🌸🍀🌹
I think this defence atttorney is hopeless. He doesn’t seem to know what line to take
The Defense Attorney has a lot of bad facts to contend with. He has provided a zealous defense, and MT was well represented. It’s going to be the small details and facts that the jurors will have to weigh. After listening to this trial for weeks, and hearing the evidence, I would find her guilty. We will see though!
Not only does he not know his nose from his toes at this stage, but he also has to keep putting up with post-it notes written by the defendant being passed to him. Talk about trying to control!!
MT, is way beyond guilty, Prayers for Jennifer May She rest in Piece . Hope MT. Spends her days in a Connecticut Prison...
Defense really went after pavel ..or tried to
@@janeealecia100 any excuse to keep MT out of jail
I'm going to miss this Judge......Never heard anyone discuss everything so calm ....Bless Him
Not once has traconas shed a tear. So sad this mother lost her life.
Exactly. Never shed a tear until they found her guility. Then the tears didn't stop. She's so gross.
As a lawyer, I don't understand why her defense attorney did not advise her NOT to talk to the police at all. I get it that narcissists think they can gaslight everyone and that they're smarter than everyone, but in this case, a lot of the evidence against Michelle was from the inconsistencies from her interviews with the police. To watch her attorney sitting there while she jabbers away at the detectives is almost painful. I'm glad though, because she was convicted. Criminals don't get how the truth works. Great job from the prosecution in using the inconsistencies during interrogations to support their position and secure justice.
Why have a fire in the house if the weather was warm?
ty jury, judge and prosecutors
healing and comfort to the Farber children and their grandmother who shows so much class and grace
only tears when found guilty, typical narc sociopath
How come in Jennifer's lovely and huge mansion....there was not security cameras????🤔🤔🤔 That's something that always called my attention...😳
They had been disconnected if I remember rightly 🤔
@@tracy6756 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ I wonder what was the reason....all was planned...
@CarmellaBrunno I think so, it would have given footage of the whole scene otherwise.
@@tracy6756been planning sense 2017, in my personal opinion. It took some time they both thought it was the perfect murder! For Michelle I feel like he had her head over hills and all she wanted was to be his wife and a great stepmom to his children and when that wasn’t happening, She made him buckle down. She is arrogant.
She didn't live there for long
She wanted to be the wife and not just the side chick, so it is not impossible for her to connive with Pothos Dulos to get rid of Jennifer.
NO ONE SEEMED TO 😢CARE WHAT HAPPENED TO HER!!
I know😥😥 but we all do...and we all ready to scream JUSTICE FOR JENNIFER ‼️‼️‼️‼️❤️❤️❤️❤️
WHAT is the mumbling i hear while state is giving closing ?? very distracting ??
Right? You’d think they could speak somewhere or sometime else and not overtop closing arguments, unreal! At times their voices get really quite loud.
It’s Michelle’s interpreter 😂
I thought the same thing. If we heard it here, I'm amazed the judge didn't tell whoever it was to quiet down.
@@kitamarie830(Zoë’s Mum) that annoying noise is her interpreter!!
@@bamazing2731because she doesn’t understand English. Keep up!
I find her just calm and specific .. I much prefer to listen to her than the def attorney. I can follow her way of presenting information. I just about believe her over the defense. It’s a little challenging to decide.. wish I had the amount of information the jury will have. Those little important details. I think it could go either way. We will see soon. So curious of how long they will to decide… humm I think a few days. 🌷
you mean stoic?
Puzzle pieces? Different trial and it didn’t work!
I have a theory as to what happened to Jennifer’s body. They said her scent went to the railroad tracks, correct? Fotis has family & other connections in Greece so it could be Jennifer’s body was put in some type of container for shipment after it was taken to the railroad and her body was covered in something to keep it from picking up a scent any further & covered in lime or some other substance that would make her body decay quickly & then someone or ones were at the railroad to pick it up to ship it overseas to Greece by ship on a seafood boat for instance, for somebody that Fotis knows so they can dispose of Jennifer’s body once it gets to Greece. The Lime or whatever substance that would make her body decay quickly & would also keep it from smelling badly, especially if it were on a seafood boat because those boats/ships smell awful anyway. That could also be what the hint of the 3:30 time meant, for someone to be at the railroad at 3:30 to pick up the container with Jennifer’s body in it. Fotis seemed to have everything else planned so well, I cannot see him leaving out HOW he was going to DISPOSE of her body AFTER he murdered Jennifer. Fotis knew it was going to have to be a plan so well thought out that her body could NEVER be found, NO trace at all! Something like this has to be the only explanation since the Detectives (dogs I guess) smelled her scent to the railroad. It could be there was a freight train with empty boxcars coming down the track slowly at that time of day and the container with Jennifer’s body and whoever that was going to ship her body overseas got on that boxcar, then they got off on down they line at a designated place. It makes me wonder if the Detectives checked to see if there was a freight train coming through at that time of day Jennifer was murdered? I pray Jennifer, her 5 precious children, her family, and all the one that love her so very much get JUSTICE for Jennifer !!! They ALL deserve JUSTICE for Jennifer’s sake and I pray her body is found so Jennifer can have a proper burial !!! NO spouse deserves to die at the hands of the one that promised to love and protect them for the rest of their life !!! This hits to the core of my heart cause I was almost in her shoes, beat by a spouse, left to die, almost bled to death, but I survived, thank the Lord! Michelle you are just as bad as Fotis by helping him covering up for him the murder of his wife Jennifer! Michelle, you may as well have been right there with him while he was killing Jennifer, by you lying for Fotis !!! I feel sorry for women like you that defend men by acting ignorant. I can see it if you were afraid of him and were in fear for your life. But Fotis cannot hurt you now, so tell the TRUTH. NO you have kept on lying over and over. Videos don’t lie!
Michelle that could have been you instead of Jennifer! JUSTICE FOR JENNIFER & her FIVE CHILDREN !!!
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what is that backround oise
(Zoë’s Mum) It is the murdering tart’s interpreter! Annoying huh?
Doesn’t he have a co counsel that can help him get through the closing. One hour to go!
Jennifer Dulos should be alive. Traconas had to know
Exactly! She knew alright
Does anyone know if MT was offered a plea deal?
From what Jon said, she didn’t . And he was angry about it. Said her first atty should never have marched her in to talk to cops without an agreement in hand.
@@lisakhan7514 She would have been if she hadn't kept lying and if Fotis had not died. And, as time went on…all the evidence supported her involvement.
@@lisakhan7514The first atty took her down to the cops because she told him she was innocent.
Good job prosecutor
I am tired 😴 after listening to this guy i bet he try to confuse this jurors 😮 talking over and over again oh boy
47:16 He is all over the place. Did Fotis do it and Michelle is clueless? But he keeps painting it as Fotis would never ever do it.
Exactly. THAT is why this jury was turned off by him..if his client was truly innocent defense would admit fully to fotis being the killer. He would be understanding to Jennifer and her family. He would be compassionate and honest about the murder. THEN he would talk about how his client was clueless. But he didn't and he tried to deny that Jennifer was even dead and like you said kept going back and forth is she dead or is she not? He was a total dumbass defense attorney.
Give them some closure and maybe redeem yourself a bit.....
Her atty is obnoxious
Those fires were Smoke 💨 Signals there’s more people involved connected to Fotis Dulos
These were the dumbest planner’s in the whole World. I believe there is a Mystery person involved too .Justice for Jennifer 🙏🏼
Hutch Haines only new the part of Fotus that he wanted others to know.
‘knew?’
Why did defense defend Fotus. That was his first mistake. He could have defended her while blaming him. He was weak and grating. The volume of his voice was tiring and exhausting. Less is more. He was rude and condescending toward witnesses and the judge. He insulted intelligent and seasons police and detectives. Typical attitude of many. Sad.
What was the evidence of the "fire event" in those ring videos ?&
I think the fact that she was coming and going-less than 20 minutes at the home or driving to and from 80 Moutain Spring Road and their home at 4 Farmington Rd. It is suspicious that someone would light a fire or noticeable smoke would bellow from the fireplace shortly she arrives. Plus, it was a warm day. Even if she lit the fire to enjoy the ambience of a fire, as her friend….Petu testified, it's hard to believe that someone would light a fire if they were enjoying the fire for its ambience. Who lights a fire and leave with 10 minutes or less.
@ravenharris1257 oh I didn't notice any chimney smoke or light changes so I didn't know what they were referring to.
When the camera picked up on MT at the end she looked like an empty shell.
I don't believe she has a brain on her own she was in to Dulos because she figured guy was rich why she went for him when he was marry at the time with 5 kids she was looking for the easy ticket for her ride in life nothing is free Michelle didn't know the money 🤑 was from Jennifer family after the divorce he was with 0 zero he own few million dollars for Jennifer parents
@@annadembowska1160exactly! I think she knew what she was doing, but she thought she would be wealthy
She is an empty shell. That's half the reason Jennifer Dulos is dead.
DdO NOT UUSE THE EXCUSE THAT SHE DOESN'T SPEAK GOOD ENGLISH...OF COURSE, BECAUSE SHE IS FROM ANOTHHER CCOUNTRY AND RACE...BUT SHE UNDERSTANDS EVERYTHING IN ENGLISH...
DON'T MAKE POOR EXCUSES...
AND SHE USES
"EH" IN BETWEEN WORDS, JUST LIKE 👍 YOU PEOPLE USE
"UM" SEVERAL TMES WHILE TALKING...WE DO THAT WHILE WAITING FOR THE NEXT WORD WE ARE GOING TO SAY, LIKE A PAUCE!
Good point
YOU SURE LOVE TO TELL OTHER PEOPLE WHAT TO DO & HOW TO THINK... GOOD LORD.. GIVE IT A REST.. WE GET IT YOUR THE CHEERLEADER HERE. BUT GOOD LORD DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF.. SPEAKING IN CAPS JUST IN CASE YOU CANT HEAR ME....
@@brennak3896with respect -learn to write in proficient English- there is a difference between ‘your’ which is possessive (your coat) and ‘you’re’ which is another way of writing you are (you are a space cadet 😂)
Before you leave comment learn how to write.
It makes you sound really stupid 🤦♀️
I feel embarrassed for you
@@stephaniesamra7960 can clearly see you have a life... carry on with that & best wishes.. 👍
I speak 3 languages and. She is a full what she is talking about she was talking to Dulos in English
NO BATHMOUTHING ABOUT HIS WIFE BECAUSE SHE HA GOOD FRIENDS AT HER OWN HOUSE, WHERE MICHELLE HAD TAKEN HERP PLACE !
Is it badmouthing - and not bathmouthing 😂
Wow! Learn how to write before leaving a comment 😵💫
The anniversary of J D”s disappearance is arguably way more distressing for her loved ones than her funeral itself.
Michelle won't be wearing that hair weave in jail.
he never loved his 5 children he would have never kill their mother..
I feel sorry for the defense attorney… he has very little to work with 😂🤣
Why have they micheal the nanny and micheals sister all wearing the exact same sweaters
MAYBE SHE'LL HAVE ANOTHER TRIAL AND SHE'LL TELL THE TRUTH, BECAUSE SHE HAS NOTHING ELSE TO LOSE...HER LOVER WOULD RATHER KILL HIMSELF AND LEFT HER HOLDING THE
"BAG"....SHE HAS NOTHING TO LOSE BUT HER DAUGHTER, AND HER OWN FREEDOM...
IS THAT NOTHING???SHE SHOULD ASK HERSELF 🤔 THAT!!!
WILL SHE HAVE ANOTHET CHANCE TO LET THOSE 5 CHILDREN WHAT HAPPENED TO THEIR MOM???😢!
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She hid behind her hair
She wouldnt testified she knew she would have got caught up in more lies when you lie your not innocent no reason to lie but cover for yourself or someone else fotis she put fotis before her daughter
She’s a terrible speaker. Thank God the 2nd prosecutors nailed it because she has no conviction in her statements!
Why go to an ATM to get money for a Car Wash 🚩🚩🚩
Never mind that. Why detail someone else’s car?
Michelle is guilty.
THE DEFENCE LAWER LOOKS LIKE AN ALCOHOLIC
I think he recently had cancer.
As a regular with the Law & Crime Channel, the prosecution closing argument in this case is the most boring I have heard in a long time. The female state attorney lack of court presence was obvious.
Defence suddenly became humble during closing .. perhaps too humble … I guess he was being careful not to screw it up
Probably needs more experience- we all have to start somewhere. I am sure whatever job you are doing - you are more proficient today than you were on day 1 in starting that job? She’s doing her best 😊
@@stephaniesamra7960❤ this!
She did great. She just have not gained the experience with theatrics due to her time in the field. As someone who is familiar with moot courts, lawyers take acting courses to hone their court presence and delivery. Her facts were there, cohesive and plausible, which is what mattered.
She convinced the jury. Job done.
What’s the story behind wife’s phone connecting to car at 2:56 pm, hours after the disappearance and Fotis confirmed back in Farmington? obv the jury didn’t think so, but to me, that is reasonable doubt. Also Jon said cops didn’t pursue it, that’s scary, isn’t it their duty??
The phone connecting where? It doesn't matter, Jennifer's blood and clothes were in Dulos and Troconis possession.
They have said that the phone was connected to one of the iPads the kids had…. Or something like that… the nanny had the Range Rover in NY at that point so it literally couldn’t have been the actual phone.
@@heliumfiasco I meant the cell phone connected to the Suburban that was found that night at the park. From what Shoenhorn said in closings, the cops knew about that but never bothered to follow up on it because it didn't fit their charge....? That seems evil if true as maybe it could have answered a lot of questions. Also, if they are saying MT answered FD's phone in the morning to give him an alibi, why wouldn't she have answered all of his texts so cops couldn't say "Look! he didn't respond to texts until 1:00 p.m. because he was too busy in New Canaan causing a menance with his ex wife...? Just seems a lot of unanswered questions that I was surprised were allowed to be brushed away. Anyone's thoughts?
@@lisakhan7514I'm not sure that it "didn't fit their charge" in many murder cases there are unknown variables. Why? Because the victim is dead and the killer is going to lie, about everything. I'm unsure what Jennifer's phone connecting changes for you. Either way fotis is seen taking the Tacoma to Waveny Park to kill Jennifer then driving her suburban to a Waveny Park then taking the Tacoma to the newly built house, michelle goes to that house and back home 5x then they go get rid of Jennifer's bloody clothes etc. Does a random phone connection change any of that? I wouldn't think so since we saw all that on cctv. I'm pretty sure that suburban was left running because when they found it was in reverse, you cannot turn the vehicle off while it's in gear. Jennifer's phone was actually never found and two things to keep in mind are that Kent hasn't had his trial yet so we don't know his part in this and it's important to remember fotis was really trying to sell that bogus gone girl bs, that Jennifer ran away. So he may have had Kent take the phone and drive by the suburban just to have the phone connect before tossing it. Or I've seen others speculate maybe Fotis tossed the phone in a bush and a kid found it and turned it on and it connected, either way it doesn't change the fact fotis went and killed her and then him and michelle cleaned up and tossed the evidence. The facts are the facts and we are able to see most of their timeline that day on cctv. michelle isn't charged with murder or even being near New Canaan so I don't see how the phone has anything to do with michelle tampering with evidence (tossing the bloody clothes & cleaning the Tacoma), hindering prosecution (lying to police providing an alibi for fotis) or conspiring to commit murder. As for "why wouldn't she answer all texts" she only had his phone from 6am till around 1pm when he got back right? Well she started manipulating it the second she got up at 6, unlocking it several times, walking around with it, then answering the 1 planned phone call. I'm sure it's obvious why she didn't answer other calls cause others would've clearly said she answered, not fotis and I don't think she answered texts because she was busy and she was in and out of the house, if you remember she made her daughter breakfast and took her to school, returned the woman's purse that forgot it at their house during the dinner party the night before and went to see Petu and say goodbye cause petu was going on a trip. I think she made a point of being busy that morning and stopping at the house in between to quickly unlock the phone and walk around with it a bit to make it seem like he was home and she was running errands. I think Kent was at the house in case she didn't get back in time to answer that call, it's a little too convenient for all 3 to be in the office at the exact time he told his friend to call. From the few texts I did see (I believe there was 5) 3 asked him to call, and they all seemed to be about work. She answered the 1 he told her to answer, the planned one.
There was absolutely no evidence on conspire to murder. There was on the other charges. For those of you celebrating, you might want to think twice if you were ever in her shoes, you would want the jury more open minded without evidence. Our whole mantra is innocent till proven guilty, and they did not give her that right. Like her or hate her, homewrecker or not she has rights, and I believe the jury got that charge wrong. And so do so many. if you can point out the evidence to the conspire to murder, I would love to hear it. Please post it.
(Zoë’s Mum) There is plenty against her- driving round dumping evidence for a start! MT cleaned up Jennifer’s blood!!!You need to watch all of the available tapings- police interviews etc etc. MT IS guilty 100%👏🏻
Disagree and I am a retired investigator with more than 28 years in the field. You just APPEAR to not clearly understand what elements make up conspiracy to murder.
Prosecutor court presence is not very good. She seems really nervous and her voice pitch and tone is very monotonous about murder. Very mousy. I bet that will matter in the end.
Because anyone would be nervous when everything is on the line. That thing participated in the murder whether she stabbed Jennifer or not.
I think she sounds good. Not mousy at all
As long as she got all the important items outta her mouth it wont matter how mousey anyone thinks she is.. This chic needs to go to jail, with all the evidence its so obvious she knew it & was involved in it, & her fake BS with her language barrier is just that- BS, she now all the sudden decides to speak her native language.. All the sudden.. Yeah OK.. Disgusting & so obvious. let her rot!
I think she sounded confident and laid out the facts clearly.
@lili...DOESN'T MATTER HOW SHE SOUNDED, SHE GOT HER POINT ACROSS,AND YOU UNDERSTOOD EVERY WORD!!
the defense is right on.. she is not guilty..she had nothing to gain wanting mom dead. Think about it ..would you do it!!!!
You don't seem to realize that people will for no good reason or without thinking it through. How many criminal do we see in court day in and day out who do the dumbest most senseless killings when they have nothing to gain. But here due to both coming from extreme wealth thought they'd get away with it.
She didn't do the murder, she was happy to go along with the clean up etc though and was really happy toasting to the day of the murder and happy the following day knowing jennifer was missing while she sat at the hairdressers all happy. she even looked shady at Starbucks on camera all defensive arms folded and fidgety.
There is no way on this earth that her lover would murder his wife and be able to be normal around her. He needed her help. He needed her understanding about what would be really strange behaviour he would undoubtedly have after the deed. She was suspicious of him all the time , always questioning, she KNEW , she assisted. She lived with him, she had sex with him on the passenger side of the tacoma (poor pawel, i hope he washed it again after 🤢) it's like a claim to victory or something sick. Just a really odd thing to do. She's a liar when it matters most that's a FACT. Doesn't matter how small the evidence was. It WAS there in the bag with the blood and items SHE just brought over. Her DNA.
Michelle was in an intimate relationship with Fotos...they had pillow talk about this plan to kill, dismember and hide the evidence. She was in on it. She never showed any concern for Jennifer well being or her disappearance.ared to be in financial failure. Fotos had nothing without Jennifer. Her father backed Fotos dream to own a luxury high end construction business. which appeared to be in ruins.
she was manipulating his phone pretending to be him for alibi AS HE WAS KILLING JENNIFER, then helped him dump bloodied evidence, burned evidence, etc
Unfortunately the defense has been crap.. a better attorney would have shown the jury that Michelle did not take part in plottimg Jennifer"s murder... Pawel should go to jail..his hands are bloody
ummm..she was celebratory toasting day prior to murder
she aided in manipulating his phone as an alibi AS HE WAS COMMITTING THE MURDER
she burned evidence and travelled back and forth five times day of murder
she is on video helping him dump bloodied clothing evidence all over hartford
she lied multiple times in false alibi
GUILTY AS CAN BE AND PROVEN TO BE
It seems she did take part! Of course she did! Guilty as charged
Other than answering the phone from an international call, what else shows conspiracy. I agree she was guilty on the rest, but as a person who wants a fair trial for every American. I don’t know that it was proven about the conspiracy to murder. I think the jury got it wrong.@@heddaszczepanski9210
Pawel wasnt afraid to testify he told the truth.his hands are clean,Fotus tried to frame him for Jennifer murder......
Innocent leave this woman alone
It’s another witch hunt. And once a witch hunt starts, they don’t stop, no matter what evidence comes forward.
No way is she innocent. Guilty as charged! What a dreadful woman. She knew her boyfriend had 5 young children! Those poor kids have now lost both their parents. She thought he was wealthy but he was heavily in debt!
@@lisakhan7514that’s why there is a jury. They dont have a hidden agenda. They neither win nor lose - they just give their verdict after considering all the facts!
Take her home. 😂
She's guilty AF. I hope you never end up on a jury, @DJMusicPruductions
We The People must understand it's not about justice but what you can prove. Prosecution did prove their closing argument. Rip 🪦 Jennifer Faber
Where was the proof of the conspiracy to murder charge. That was the one I don’t agree with