Class, Classics, & the Classroom: A Short History of School

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  • Опубликовано: 3 сен 2017
  • From ancient Greece to the origins of the university, we trace the history of education through the etymology of educational vocabulary. Check out the playlist for many more fascinating takes on school & education! • WeCollaborateEdu: Back...
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Комментарии • 194

  • @iammrbeat
    @iammrbeat 6 лет назад +11

    I'm glad it worked out that our videos are next to each other on the playlist! Well done :)

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  6 лет назад

      +Mr. Beat Thank you! Yes, ours fit together really well, I thought--just enough overlap to make the connections, then you went into much more detail about the periods I didn't cover.

  • @puglosipher1666
    @puglosipher1666 6 лет назад +32

    This video has some class

  • @upandatom
    @upandatom 6 лет назад +10

    Remember reading this script, the video turned out really well!

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  6 лет назад

      Thanks Jade! And thank you for your help! :)

  • @harrywalsh2330
    @harrywalsh2330 6 лет назад +12

    Keep these up! I've been loving expanding my knowledge of linguistics, etymology, and history recently. This channel has some of the highest quality content I've come across and I hope more people find it. Subscribed.

  • @saxoungrammaticus9132
    @saxoungrammaticus9132 6 лет назад +20

    Here, here, keep on educating us.

  • @WordsFromTheMuck
    @WordsFromTheMuck 6 лет назад +3

    Well done, sir. Well done. I loved the info, the depth of the content, and the way you kept it all connected. It's not easy to do all that, but you nailed it. Thank you for your work!

  • @korakys
    @korakys 6 лет назад +5

    I had a "wait, what?" moment on the etymology of the eye's pupil. Had to pause, go back, and watch it again. Pretty bizarre, but interesting.
    I can seldom get through one of your videos without at least one pause -- the information density is so great!

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  6 лет назад

      It is totally bizarre, to be honest! That was a new discovery for me when I was doing research for an earlier video, and I was glad to get a chance to mention it!

  • @ReidarWasenius
    @ReidarWasenius 3 года назад

    Nice! Another gem discovered here. Thank you for these videos! This one is particularly interesting to me as an educator. I shall now rewatch it!

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  3 года назад +1

      Thank you, and welcome to the channel!

  • @shardhakumar5347
    @shardhakumar5347 6 лет назад +4

    Tnk you brother love your work, very informative do have a fabulous day!😊 keep well..

  • @user-in8tn2vg1w
    @user-in8tn2vg1w 5 лет назад +9

    I really liked this video. Here it is clearly shown from what words some English words have occurred. Most of them are from Greek or Latin.

  • @ryanwporter
    @ryanwporter Год назад

    This is fantastic! Kudos to you this work is not easy. Loved every minute of this.

  • @12kwh
    @12kwh 6 лет назад

    Great video!
    Keep up the good work!

  • @simetry6477
    @simetry6477 6 лет назад

    Thank you for the work.

  • @JihadAlAnsari
    @JihadAlAnsari 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you this is high quality.

  • @jacintorubio696
    @jacintorubio696 5 лет назад +1

    you're awesome. I love being led down your tracks
    Remember reading this script, the video turned out really well!
    Tnk you brother love your work, very informative do have a fabulous day!😊 keep well..

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  5 лет назад

      Thank you! Great to hear from you!

  • @DeveloPlayLLC
    @DeveloPlayLLC 6 лет назад +4

    Great vid - So much I didn't know before! 😀

  • @AnthonyEClark-mz9vw
    @AnthonyEClark-mz9vw 3 года назад

    This is very helpful as a curious student, of the history of our schools!!

  • @joao_ricchio
    @joao_ricchio 3 года назад

    Fantastic video! Thanks...

  • @josephburton2656
    @josephburton2656 6 лет назад +4

    This is a truly great video! I have to say that I am often wary of RUclips for history related subjects as many just "research" through Wikipedia. That being said, this is not such a channel. I recently went to a lecture in which many of the facets of Greek and Roman education were discussed and I got the same, if not as in depth, information here. Well, at least I am now confirmed completely in your knowledge and the accuracy of these videos. I also found the last bit, on the formation of universities interesting in that students were often taken advantage of monetarily. Well, I guess some things never change. Anyway, thank you for the videos!

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  6 лет назад +1

      Thank you! That's a great compliment; I do try to do my homework properly (though of course Wikipedia can be a good starting place sometimes), and in fact chasing down the rabbit holes of research is my favourite part of the process! And yes, some things seem to be rather consistent through the years, unfortunately!

  • @gauravmkataria
    @gauravmkataria 4 года назад

    This video has been very helpful for my research on the Study of Evolution in Educational System. Thank You very much, Sir!

  • @LightDragon777
    @LightDragon777 4 года назад +3

    That was so fascinating how you combined the etymologies of the words with the history to tell the story of the development of education.
    Also, I thought it was funny that "class" came from the root for "to shout", because boy do they ever. :p

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  4 года назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! And I’d not thought of how appropriate that root is! 😆

  • @philoki
    @philoki 3 года назад

    This video style is awesome! Haven't seen it on RUclips before

  • @paddbourn9526
    @paddbourn9526 5 лет назад

    So informative and illuminating

  • @AMReed8
    @AMReed8 6 лет назад

    Thank you!

  • @user-pk3ee6eg8x
    @user-pk3ee6eg8x 9 месяцев назад

    this is amazing thank you so much

  • @MrEQuoniX
    @MrEQuoniX 2 года назад

    Thanks to the greatest video ever! and the most informative

  • @Cadwaladr
    @Cadwaladr 6 лет назад +6

    This made me think of a sentence I wrote in Latin class in high school: arduum pensum discipulum non delectat. Although I actually did like doing my Latin homework.

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  6 лет назад +5

      Yay for liking Latin homework! :)

    • @bcast9978
      @bcast9978 6 лет назад

      Cadwaladr Haha. Love it!

  • @latronqui
    @latronqui 6 лет назад +1

    How cool is it that this was posted on my birthday, while I was visiting the city of Salamanca, home of one of the oldest universities?

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  6 лет назад +2

      Oh, how perfect! One of the many places I'd love to visit...

  • @schooltalk5353
    @schooltalk5353 6 лет назад

    Great Content! Well Delivered!!

  • @fullofhope1307
    @fullofhope1307 3 года назад

    Hi! I'm new in teaching Foundations of Education. Your video is both informative and entertaining. I will use it in my class. thank you.

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  3 года назад

      Thank you! Very glad to hear you found it useful, and thanks for using it!

  • @AliZakaria
    @AliZakaria 4 года назад

    wow amazing video thank you

  • @hifiunicorn
    @hifiunicorn Год назад

    This was a wonderfully informative video ! I noticed you didn't mention education from any other cultures. I would be interested in learning about the civilization of the Nile Valley and the oral and written records of their education system.. Thanks so much!

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  Год назад

      Thanks! Yes, I focused on the systems that are behind the English system, because I’m also focusing on the English language. But there’s fascinating information about education in other cultures out there too!

  • @juanmartin6710
    @juanmartin6710 2 года назад

    Great video. Very underrated.

  • @tombouie
    @tombouie 8 месяцев назад

    Quite enlightening

  • @ko8295
    @ko8295 5 лет назад

    you're awesome. I love being led down your tracks

  • @gyorgyibarnard6534
    @gyorgyibarnard6534 4 года назад +1

    After watching many videos for my research on education this was the most useful and simple! Subscribed! Your way of explaining through the words is fascinating! I seen from some comments that is a reading script of this? How can I get hold of this script? Thank you!

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  4 года назад

      Thank you! That’s good to hear! If you look in the description of each of our videos there’s a link to a transcript: www.alliterative.net/education-transcript

  • @susanmcmaster5810
    @susanmcmaster5810 6 лет назад +6

    Who knew? You're right, many assumptions, e.g. university/universal, turn themselves upside down. Certainly seems to be a need for stronger professor and student unions these troubled times... and weren't they always troubled?

  • @sillysad3198
    @sillysad3198 6 лет назад

    i remember you talked about brand names that became proper names. i have learned another one today: "a crescent wrench"
    "crescent" was a brand name originally :)

  • @amanieux
    @amanieux 6 лет назад +4

    you did not expend on the age aspect : today class are roughly grouped by age, it was not always like that, or was it ? the interesting idea of not having the same age in a class implies that it respected the individual difference in intelligence or maturity in which students are now grouped by level of understanding and not by level of age.

  • @brandonmcneal3887
    @brandonmcneal3887 Год назад

    Very good

  • @TZB2011
    @TZB2011 4 года назад +2

    Dr. Mark, The video was simply awesome with its profound content and the pace of delivery with placement of enough etymological facts. Expecting more in this regard. However, the area of reference about the history education was mainly restricted Greece and Rome- Europe. What about Indian or Asian contributions? Awaiting a work based on them also. You made me a fan of your channel, Alliterative. Regards!

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  4 года назад +1

      Thanks, really glad you enjoyed it! The thing is, because I'm usually tracing the history of words in English, I tend to end up talking about the historical events and ideas that had the most direct impact on and connections to the English speaking world -- which, until the last few hundred years, has meant Europe and England. But I do hope to keep expanding the subjects I cover. I did talk about some Indian history in 'Widow', for instance, though again it was from a fairly English perspective.

    • @TZB2011
      @TZB2011 4 года назад

      @@Alliterative Thanks for the gracious reply. It would be again appreciated if you will share the link for 'widow'.

  • @victorgustavo4366
    @victorgustavo4366 3 года назад

    Amazing video. Thnks from Brazil.

  • @sirfanatical8763
    @sirfanatical8763 3 года назад +1

    I learned in this video more useful stuff than in real school...

  • @etymologist1976
    @etymologist1976 Год назад

    Etymology of education: E DU characters (English alphabet) systematized by Seolchong (person's name) in ancient Korea

  • @harrisonedokpayi3647
    @harrisonedokpayi3647 4 года назад

    I have to give it up to this guy, making what is obviously complex as simple as this. A great teacher

  • @Frahamen
    @Frahamen 6 лет назад +2

    Why you need eight copies of the Iliad? Shouldn't four or five suffice?

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  6 лет назад +3

      There's no such thing as sufficient books! Especially not translations of classic texts! ;)

  • @cinimodg0251
    @cinimodg0251 3 года назад

    I never thought I’d be excited to go back to school, I go back Wednesday!

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  3 года назад +1

      Same with our kids, it just shows how topsy turvy the world is right now! Happy back to school...

  • @alikhidzam3749
    @alikhidzam3749 5 лет назад

    7:31 still happens in Asia

  • @allmendoubt4784
    @allmendoubt4784 4 года назад

    Wow, I endured both the mediaeval and classical kind though still ended up a servant - nevertheless, does leis also beget lesson, which Americans confuse with class?

  • @mickmickymick6927
    @mickmickymick6927 6 лет назад +1

    What building is that at 10:08? Looks nice

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  6 лет назад +2

      Saint Isaac's Cathedral in St Petersburg: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Saint_Isaac%27s_Cathedral_in_SPB.jpeg

    • @mickmickymick6927
      @mickmickymick6927 6 лет назад +2

      Thank you friend

  • @mohankumarcs9032
    @mohankumarcs9032 4 года назад

    it is educating everybody

  • @lafregaste
    @lafregaste 3 года назад

    I don't think I'm "ancient" but I was hit with wooden and plastic rulers when I was kid. I was a very... active kid? gave enough green hairs to my Mom during my elementary education and part of my pre-k education too. I don't think they hit me too hard, possibly cause I presented as a girl, but I do remember once my teacher was so angry at me he broke the plastic ruler on my hands. I don't remember what I did, but I do remember the exclamation of surprise from my school mates, and my teacher's red face. Again, I was too energetic and had a very... problematic creativity/imagination.
    I calmed down a lot when I entered high school, so I only remember being scolded once. I had participated with a group of boys in spitting chewed pieces of paper up to the ceiling of our classroom. It was a brilliant idea on my part, at least that's what I thought at that time, to use the pen's plastic tube as a "blowgun", so the sticky paper would fly higher, reach the ceiling and stick to it. The teachers took 2 weeks or so to realize what we were doing and by then almost the whole back of the classroom's ceiling was remodeled with dried hard paper. Hahahahaha. I didn't really know what an asshole I was being to the cleaning staff of the school or I wouldn't have done that. I was almost not caught thou. When the principal said for the culprits to stand up and of course nobody did, he threaten to call all parents, so, some girls started naming people. At least 7 boys lined the front of the class and the principal was starting with his admonishment when 1 girl, I think she didn't like me much, said my name. The principal couldn't believe I had done such a thing... well, in his defense, he didn't know of my previous history, and I had acted nothing short of a saint during that year he knew me. But forced by that girl and him asking to "know the truth" I had to accept my responsibility. Thankfully again, since I was passing as a girl I was not asked to do laps like the boys, but write a thousand times something along the lines of "not destroy public/private property".

  • @crazycatlady2744
    @crazycatlady2744 2 года назад

    The end point of the video would have been perfect for a segue into a Skillshare sponsor.

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  2 года назад

      So true. Sadly, we remain unsponsored!

  • @Z0M-B-F0X
    @Z0M-B-F0X 5 лет назад

    nice

  • @rajeshthorwe6021
    @rajeshthorwe6021 4 года назад +1

    this video has some class

  • @dark_fire_ice
    @dark_fire_ice 4 года назад +1

    We don't need no, education. Though was hoping you'd bring up why some schools were called gymnasiums

  • @bharatijkrishnan4077
    @bharatijkrishnan4077 4 года назад

    The title should be "The Etymology of Education"

  • @Rkd-_-b
    @Rkd-_-b 6 месяцев назад

    The American education system was learned from Germany who created the schooling system to create soilders

  • @Rayman25
    @Rayman25 4 года назад

    This helped me a lot with the preparation of an exam! Thank you! Here's a fun fact: the eye pupil in Catalan can be called either "pupil·la" or "nineta". The latter also means "little puppet".

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  4 года назад

      Glad it helped! And that’s a very cool fact, thanks!

  • @kvs29vaibhavhv17
    @kvs29vaibhavhv17 3 года назад

    Ee mindrimagana school kand hidhounu aa mindrimagunge yest met thagand hodudhru saladhu

  • @sillysad3198
    @sillysad3198 6 лет назад +1

    speaking of the education accessibility: stuco.co

  • @alexandrmolotov
    @alexandrmolotov 3 года назад +3

    Hi! This video was used for demonstration by Yandex. This video translate automatically live to Russian and the neuronet speaks over the voice of main speaker. Sorry for my English, I'm not Yandex)) Feauture is beautiful!!!

    • @Alliterative
      @Alliterative  3 года назад +4

      Thanks! I worked that out after a little bit of digging when it suddenly was getting more views than normal. It sounds like a really interesting feature, I’m intrigued to see where it goes! And pleased that our video was used in the experiment!

    • @user-gg3up9jo7y
      @user-gg3up9jo7y 3 года назад

      @@Alliterative то что сделал яндекс - невероятно)

  • @toothlessnightfury1820
    @toothlessnightfury1820 5 лет назад +2

    school is a form of child abuse, if forcing a kid to be somewhere they don't want to be, do things they don't want to do and deal with people they don't want do deal with is not child abuse , I don't know what is..there are tons of ways to educate your son/daughter other sending them to school.

    • @beccareynolds4625
      @beccareynolds4625 5 лет назад

      toothless nightfury I agree 100%

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu 3 года назад

      Any examples of how would you do it differently?

    • @toothlessnightfury1820
      @toothlessnightfury1820 3 года назад

      @@MJ-uk6lu yes home schooling

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu 3 года назад

      @@toothlessnightfury1820 So it isn't child abuse then? Why is that?

  • @oreordaz
    @oreordaz 3 года назад +4

    Яндекс красавчики

  • @tammyariel2982
    @tammyariel2982 2 года назад

    Imagine all of the people that hate school wondering "ugh who made this a thing" and realizing it started because some white dudes wanted to be more powerful than what they already are

  • @OmegaWolf747
    @OmegaWolf747 6 лет назад

    I teach the dictionary so they may learn the lore.

  • @lucianthehedgehog8490
    @lucianthehedgehog8490 3 года назад

    3 years can do that

  • @irenemiller7134
    @irenemiller7134 4 года назад

    Bruh I am more an internet kind of girl

  • @ll.lu1s763
    @ll.lu1s763 3 года назад

    education sucks

  • @bryanvanloo5454
    @bryanvanloo5454 Месяц назад

    How was Mesopotamia lost here? DID the Silk Road not offer additional teachers, such as language?