Thanks everyone who joined us live last night! We hope to see you again next week with our guest who served in South East Asia with the CIA. Also, what do you think about the audio? I think we finally ironed out the remaining issues we've been having. Please take a peak at our Patreon for bonus content with our guests: www.patreon.com/m/TheTeamHouse
@@TheTeamHousePodcast No, thank you guys for intelligent, civilian/affinity-friendly guests and content. (Retired civilian hospital chaplain and honorary Marine here.)
Love your videos.....I am a little late in finding you fellas. I have 1 son that is Marine Infantry at Pendleton and the other son is at RASP at Fort Benning. I feel like watching you guys gives me some insight that helps me relate to my boys. Thx a bunch from a grateful military mom😉
Great interview I'm going over everything you have done, great job guys. I found him to be very honest about Boot camp I too was a Brit when I joined the marines, I was prior British army and had some very similar experiences during boot camp. It brought back some good memories.
I was intending to listen to this in smaller pieces but the guest was very informative and entertaining Eventually I realized most of my afternoon was spent listening to the whole episode in one shot. Now I want that book! Subscribed +🔔
Loved it. Discussion on following orders is so real and I have witnessed that in combat. Leaders need to recognize the push back is not personal to them or the Corps, but to make the group more successful. H. Co. 2ndbatt 5 th Marines Viet Nam 67-68
Speaking of war movies, a really underrated one is “The Thin Red Line” which came out in 1998 and was overshadowed by “Saving Private Ryan”... but it’s more of a philosophical viewpoint of war and it’s a story about one Marine unit taking Guadalcanal. Probably also has one of the most star studded casts out of any movie I’ve ever seen.
That opening story was hilarious. I was in the 24th Infantry Div in Desert Shield/Storm and trust me, you didn't miss anything. Pretty miserable 7 month deployment with no amenities and a big letdown after just 4 days of combat.
I had to come back to this interview after reading about him establishing the Mozart group. It would be great to have him back once the war in ukraine is over to hear of his experiences.
Mechanic in the U.S. military. He was in the back of a Chinook. Put a harness on and was surfing behind the Chinook. The harness caused him to passout. He slipped out the harness and became a memory. Happened in Kuwait.
omg its the guy from the ranger thing like 10-12 years ago, was wondering why the guy on the right looks familiar...he was a 1st batt guy...the ranger hut, the ranger stories, ranger room, whatever it was called
I recently discovered your channel during the height of the big 2020 Chinese Novel Virus Quarantine. My wife is convinced that you are all pure evil for creating content that can keep me glued to screen for hours and hours. So... as it's way too late to submit a "SuperChat"... my wife would like to know exactly WHEN you guys are coming over to NJ to assist me with her "Honey-Do" list.??!!😆😆😎😉 Thanks again for all of your work & your videos!! (& of course... your service!)
The decision to disband the Ba'ath party was damned if you do, damned if you don't. Disband them and send them to become the framework of the insurgency, or keep them and reinforce the same old reign of terror they maintained over the Iraqi people. You start to see why we disbanded the Ba'ath party.
I agree that it's always easy to see what should of been done (or what we think should have been done) in hindsight. The issue I had with disbanding the Ba'ath party and kicking them all out of the government is that the Iraqi government had to rebuild from scratch with people who had no experience in government. I think that phasing them out would have mitigated a lot of issues that we had. But I accept that's simply my opinion and nobody really knows what would have happened. Thanks for watching!
@@dave_parke If you get a chance to read George W. Bush's book, Decision Points, he talks in detail about the decision-making challenges they faced with this whole issue, which wasn't taken lightly. It was interesting to see that perspective after having been in theater at the time and studying all the different ways that decision played out with the insurgency, lawlessness, Sunni-Shi'ite rivalry, Iranian opportunistic exploitation of the vacuum, Al Sadr, and later the rise of ISIS from the Iraqi Ba'ath Party officers who survived and went to ground in the Sunni Triangle and Eastern Syrian towns. Had we kept even a shell of the Ba'ath Party, which was the framework for Iraqi Police and military, we would have been excoriated in the international presstitute brothels (working as fronts for the former Soviet IOJ). I can see the headlines now: "Bush Administration props up Nazi tactics Ba'ath Party in Iraq". "America in Iraq: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss". These types of headlines would be most prominent in the Middle Eastern press, where Iranians and Russians would fan the flames of jihad to pour in more Shi'ite volunteers from abroad. Either way, once you get involved in the ME, you're damned no matter what you do as a foreign power.
LRRPFco52 I will put it on my list. And I fully agree with your last statement and I think that history shows it holds true for SEA and SWA too. If there’s not a clearly defined “win” strategy and a solid timeline for entry and exit then we’ll inevitably get stuck.
@@dave_parke After a lifetime of studying insurgencies and war, I've come to the realization that insurgencies aren't won, but simply managed over centuries. Politicians and military commanders frequently don't know the geography well enough, let alone the history. Especially in the US where we're so geographically isolated, Americans in general don't relate to or understand the rest of the world where rivalries over resources have driven warfare for millennia. Meanwhile, we take for granted a temperate climate, the most connected river network in the world, 3 huge coastlines with unfettered deep sea port access, and the largest arable farmland in the world.
@@dave_parke I've been enjoying these episodes and the channel playing in the background while working, since I run my own business. I'm interested in hearing about what actually happened at Abu Gharib and have my own perspective on it.
@TheTeamHousePodcast " I think one of the downfalls of 2:11:19 having an all-volunteer force is that such a small percentage of the population has service in the military I'm not about to I'm not about to support the draft but there's that means that the average Congress mental senator has no skin in the game sure right so they consider bass does not comprise guys who are affected by foreign policy right this was a tiny percentage so what it means is they simply it's not worth their time focus on foreign policy it's not worth that time to to conduct serious oversight of the wars that we we're in veterans aren't even a relevant voting bloc " This is why Fred Galvin is having such a hard time getting any traction with the idea of reform as far as the legal system of the military. Very few people have 'skin in the game' such as a kid, (son/daughter) nephew/niece, aunt/uncle, etc. That means that very few people in the country keep track of things like foreign policy (you hear commentary about how elections aren't won on foreign policy issues). And that also means that few people in in Congress actually have any experience with the military, other than the jobs it may bring to their district, and therefore few people in Congress actually have the requisite knowledge and comfort to be able to question anyone in the military about budgets, strategy, etc., etc., etc., and push back if they see something wrong. So if someone in the military wants to lie, senior military leaders can get away. with it. Put another way, the military got what it wanted(no draft), but not what it needed ( a nation that cares deeply because almost everyone knows someone in the military and things that involve or affect the military matter to them. ) And as a result problems like this can and do exist. Very few people pay attention, because very few people have to..
When he talks about orders and standing your ground by saying no it brings to mind the needless invasion of Peleliu. An unnecessary battle that left the 1st Mar Div combat ineffective. Also reminds me of the orders from Major General Rupertus, and Col Puller. The pressure to take the ridges came from Rupertus down to Puller who put the screws to his battalion commanders. In the end, the result was 1000 of wasted lives. And thousands of wounded. The invasion should never have happened. When it did Rupertus should have brought the 81st Infantry Division in much earlier. And their approach to the battle of the ridges should have been something other than feeding Marines pointlessly into a meat grinder. It would have been far more efficient for Rupertus and Puller to have just lined their units up and shot the Marines dead themselves. I know it’s heresy as a Marine to speak poorly of Chesty, but Peleliu was not a shinning example of great leadership or tactical skills. Kind of makes me wonder why he dropped off the radar during the final battles in the Pacific.
Lol Chesty Puller was effectively pulled out of combat towards the end of WW2 not because he was sending Marines to their death, but because there was so much tension between him and the upper chain of command. He saw what was happening on the ground and in some cases almost down right refused to move forward because of the catastrophic loss of life. So on the contrary on the point you were trying to make. You should read his book.
@@BostonsF1nest I’ve never read his book. So thanks for setting me straight on that one. I guess Rupertus will get sole credit for feeding Marines senselessly into the meat grinder. I’m sure if Chesty was pushing back against the status cuo they would have benched him like they did Evan Carlson.
@@stevewilson4514 Chesty is so well known because he probably cared for his guys more than any general in the history of the US military ... he was always going to bat for his senior leadership if they pushed back against something the head shed wanted them to do. Famously, when asked by his wife after he retired what he wanted to do now, his response was “I want to see the face of every Marine I’ve ever served with”
@@BostonsF1nest Thats a side of Chesty I haven’t read about. What colored my impression of him was what I read about him during the battle of the ridges on Pelieu. The way the 1st Marine Regiment was just fed into a meat grinder until they were combat ineffective left a bad taste.
lol that comment about canadian soceity wont tollerat lol if that were true our entire military would be gone. The militray treated like shit in Canada
Question .......doea EL MOZOTE, EL SALVADOR DEC 11 1981 COUNT? I GUESS NOT! A WAR.....YOU ALL DONT KNOW ABOUT! INSERT, OBSERVE, EXTRACT.......what soes that mean? INSERT, OBSERVE, EXTRACT......then COVER IT UP! BY REAGAN and his " war on drugs". I have met only 10 others who were there beyond my unit! DONT TALK ABOUT IT! ORDERS!!!!!!!!! 39 years ago! Your little SPEC OPS....ARE A JOKE!
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Please invite this man back, hands down one of the best conversations dealing with military issues on the internet.
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What a guy. So intelligent, articulate and above all humble. Respect from a fellow Brit. Really enjoyed the podcast, thanks so much fella's.
Thanks everyone who joined us live last night! We hope to see you again next week with our guest who served in South East Asia with the CIA. Also, what do you think about the audio? I think we finally ironed out the remaining issues we've been having. Please take a peak at our Patreon for bonus content with our guests: www.patreon.com/m/TheTeamHouse
Shared this on a friend's blog, who served with Col. Milburn...He is pleased. Will be back to visit you guys again!
@@nancydunham4361 Thank you Nancy!
@@TheTeamHousePodcast No, thank you guys for intelligent, civilian/affinity-friendly guests and content. (Retired civilian hospital chaplain and honorary Marine here.)
"Real patriotism is ensuring that, if we have to shed blood, it's gonna be in pursuit of a coherent cause".....Enough said.
Love your videos.....I am a little late in finding you fellas.
I have 1 son that is Marine Infantry at Pendleton and the other son is at RASP at Fort Benning.
I feel like watching you guys gives me some insight that helps me relate to my boys.
Thx a bunch from a grateful military mom😉
Utterly fascinating. Book ordered. Thank you.
The knowledge and experience sitting in that room between you 3 is amazing thanks for letting me listen in.
He was my Battalion Commander with 1/3 in the conventional forces.. good dude
Really enjoyed this one. It did not seem like three hours it was that good. I also thought the audio was easy on the ears.
Thanks! I think we FINALLY got the audio issues fixed.
Great interview I'm going over everything you have done, great job guys. I found him to be very honest about Boot camp I too was a Brit when I joined the marines, I was prior British army and had some very similar experiences during boot camp. It brought back some good memories.
I was intending to listen to this in smaller pieces but the guest was very informative and entertaining Eventually I realized most of my afternoon was spent listening to the whole episode in one shot. Now I want that book! Subscribed +🔔
Loved it. Discussion on following orders is so real and I have witnessed that in combat. Leaders need to recognize the push back is not personal to them or the Corps, but to make the group more successful. H. Co. 2ndbatt 5 th Marines Viet Nam 67-68
Great interview. I only stopped by for the intro and stayed for the whole thing.
Good three hours of conversation. Thanks, guys.
Looking forward to this book; preordered in October, '19.
I would like to see this Gentleman on again. I’d like him to expand on almost every subject.
On second thought,I will buy his book.
What a charismatic guy, great interview
Fascinating. Humbling. Well worth the three hours!!
“In person” makes such a difference! Great talk!!
Speaking of war movies, a really underrated one is “The Thin Red Line” which came out in 1998 and was overshadowed by “Saving Private Ryan”... but it’s more of a philosophical viewpoint of war and it’s a story about one Marine unit taking Guadalcanal. Probably also has one of the most star studded casts out of any movie I’ve ever seen.
What a great dude. Also, best episode so far.
This was a fascinating podcast. Thank you.
I wonder how often people confuse him with the guy from River Monsters.
Outstanding interview
1:08:44 99.9% of "Dumbest things you've seen a Marine do" stories take place in Okinawa.
Great show Jack. Fascinating story.
Great one guys. Very fascinating. Andrew is an excellent guy in conveying information. Just signed up on Patreon.
Awesome episode!
Great interview
What a great episode!
That opening story was hilarious. I was in the 24th Infantry Div in Desert Shield/Storm and trust me, you didn't miss anything. Pretty miserable 7 month deployment with no amenities and a big letdown after just 4 days of combat.
Jack I know someone who was in the French Foreign Legion He lives 20 miles from me. A US Navy Vet. as well.
Excellent interview.
Still best guest and episode! Love from your brothers in UK
I had to come back to this interview after reading about him establishing the Mozart group. It would be great to have him back once the war in ukraine is over to hear of his experiences.
Great to hear a British sense of humour on the TH!
Mechanic in the U.S. military. He was in the back of a Chinook. Put a harness on and was surfing behind the Chinook. The harness caused him to passout. He slipped out the harness and became a memory. Happened in Kuwait.
God bless the silent professionals🇺🇸🙏🇺🇸
Great chat.
omg its the guy from the ranger thing like 10-12 years ago, was wondering why the guy on the right looks familiar...he was a 1st batt guy...the ranger hut, the ranger stories, ranger room, whatever it was called
Jack's late again.....😅and this is why the team house is my favorite podcast ,funny and super informative
👍 A top conversation !!! 👍
I recently discovered your channel during the height of the big 2020 Chinese Novel Virus Quarantine.
My wife is convinced that you are all pure evil for creating content that can keep me glued to screen for hours and hours.
So... as it's way too late to submit a "SuperChat"...
my wife would like to know exactly WHEN you guys are coming over to NJ to assist me with her "Honey-Do" list.??!!😆😆😎😉
Thanks again for all of your work & your videos!! (& of course... your service!)
We would love to help with that list but, you know, social distancing...lol. Thanks so much for watching!
I doubt many of us have been to Nuristan. I’d like to know more about when he was there.
At the 2hr 15 mark….what Jack is saying is that we are the Terminators and the bad guys are really the rebels
Hahaa...new subscriber here. Great channel. My boy Dave was on one in this episode. Lol. Great episode.
With the attack in Tunisia hot on the heels of the discussion here where if you are bunkering down your bunkers will get hammered was not to far off.
In case there is any doubt buy the book. Podcast is best served with a fine single malt Scotch or adult beverage of your choice.
Would love to hear more podcasts with guys from MARSOC besides Nick K.
Love your shirt man, where did you get it?
So much alcohol in that room the audio got drunk.
👍
Best one ever. Sounds like Henry Cavill sometimes lol
Half English, half American equals Ozzy!..
What was people's opinions on gen mattis ?
These question segments are... all over the place
Good story, read the book....
The decision to disband the Ba'ath party was damned if you do, damned if you don't. Disband them and send them to become the framework of the insurgency, or keep them and reinforce the same old reign of terror they maintained over the Iraqi people. You start to see why we disbanded the Ba'ath party.
I agree that it's always easy to see what should of been done (or what we think should have been done) in hindsight. The issue I had with disbanding the Ba'ath party and kicking them all out of the government is that the Iraqi government had to rebuild from scratch with people who had no experience in government. I think that phasing them out would have mitigated a lot of issues that we had. But I accept that's simply my opinion and nobody really knows what would have happened. Thanks for watching!
@@dave_parke If you get a chance to read George W. Bush's book, Decision Points, he talks in detail about the decision-making challenges they faced with this whole issue, which wasn't taken lightly.
It was interesting to see that perspective after having been in theater at the time and studying all the different ways that decision played out with the insurgency, lawlessness, Sunni-Shi'ite rivalry, Iranian opportunistic exploitation of the vacuum, Al Sadr, and later the rise of ISIS from the Iraqi Ba'ath Party officers who survived and went to ground in the Sunni Triangle and Eastern Syrian towns.
Had we kept even a shell of the Ba'ath Party, which was the framework for Iraqi Police and military, we would have been excoriated in the international presstitute brothels (working as fronts for the former Soviet IOJ).
I can see the headlines now: "Bush Administration props up Nazi tactics Ba'ath Party in Iraq". "America in Iraq: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss".
These types of headlines would be most prominent in the Middle Eastern press, where Iranians and Russians would fan the flames of jihad to pour in more Shi'ite volunteers from abroad.
Either way, once you get involved in the ME, you're damned no matter what you do as a foreign power.
LRRPFco52 I will put it on my list. And I fully agree with your last statement and I think that history shows it holds true for SEA and SWA too. If there’s not a clearly defined “win” strategy and a solid timeline for entry and exit then we’ll inevitably get stuck.
@@dave_parke After a lifetime of studying insurgencies and war, I've come to the realization that insurgencies aren't won, but simply managed over centuries.
Politicians and military commanders frequently don't know the geography well enough, let alone the history.
Especially in the US where we're so geographically isolated, Americans in general don't relate to or understand the rest of the world where rivalries over resources have driven warfare for millennia.
Meanwhile, we take for granted a temperate climate, the most connected river network in the world, 3 huge coastlines with unfettered deep sea port access, and the largest arable farmland in the world.
@@dave_parke I've been enjoying these episodes and the channel playing in the background while working, since I run my own business.
I'm interested in hearing about what actually happened at Abu Gharib and have my own perspective on it.
Rangers are just Marines with a budget change my mind.
Damn Chip Hazards incarnate even if there is a British accent defect in this one.
12/11/81.............it started....12/09/81....... Thru.....12/11/81.... I was 22....El Salvador.
@TheTeamHousePodcast
" I think one of the downfalls of
2:11:19
having an all-volunteer force is that such a small percentage of the population has service in the military I'm not about to I'm not about to support the draft but there's that means that the average Congress mental senator has no skin in the game sure right so they consider bass does not comprise guys who are affected by foreign policy right this was a tiny percentage so what it means is they simply it's not worth their time focus on foreign policy it's not worth that time to to conduct serious oversight of the wars that we we're in veterans aren't even a relevant voting bloc "
This is why Fred Galvin is having such a hard time getting any traction with the idea of reform as far as the legal system of the military. Very few people have 'skin in the game' such as a kid, (son/daughter) nephew/niece, aunt/uncle, etc. That means that very few people in the country keep track of things like foreign policy (you hear commentary about how elections aren't won on foreign policy issues). And that also means that few people in
in Congress actually have any experience with the military, other than the jobs it may bring to their district, and therefore few people in Congress actually have the requisite knowledge and comfort to be able to question anyone in the military about budgets, strategy, etc., etc., etc., and push back if they see something wrong. So if someone in the military wants to lie, senior military leaders can get away. with it.
Put another way, the military got what it wanted(no draft), but not what it needed ( a nation that cares deeply because almost everyone knows someone in the military and things that involve or affect the military matter to them. ) And as a result problems like this can and do exist. Very few people pay attention, because very few people have to..
When he talks about orders and standing your ground by saying no it brings to mind the needless invasion of Peleliu. An unnecessary battle that left the 1st Mar Div combat ineffective. Also reminds me of the orders from Major General Rupertus, and Col Puller. The pressure to take the ridges came from Rupertus down to Puller who put the screws to his battalion commanders. In the end, the result was 1000 of wasted lives. And thousands of wounded.
The invasion should never have happened. When it did Rupertus should have brought the 81st Infantry Division in much earlier. And their approach to the battle of the ridges should have been something other than feeding Marines pointlessly into a meat grinder. It would have been far more efficient for Rupertus and Puller to have just lined their units up and shot the Marines dead themselves.
I know it’s heresy as a Marine to speak poorly of Chesty, but Peleliu was not a shinning example of great leadership or tactical skills.
Kind of makes me wonder why he dropped off the radar during the final battles in the Pacific.
Lol Chesty Puller was effectively pulled out of combat towards the end of WW2 not because he was sending Marines to their death, but because there was so much tension between him and the upper chain of command. He saw what was happening on the ground and in some cases almost down right refused to move forward because of the catastrophic loss of life. So on the contrary on the point you were trying to make. You should read his book.
@@BostonsF1nest I’ve never read his book. So thanks for setting me straight on that one. I guess Rupertus will get sole credit for feeding Marines senselessly into the meat grinder.
I’m sure if Chesty was pushing back against the status cuo they would have benched him like they did Evan Carlson.
@@stevewilson4514 Chesty is so well known because he probably cared for his guys more than any general in the history of the US military ... he was always going to bat for his senior leadership if they pushed back against something the head shed wanted them to do. Famously, when asked by his wife after he retired what he wanted to do now, his response was “I want to see the face of every Marine I’ve ever served with”
@@BostonsF1nest Thats a side of Chesty I haven’t read about. What colored my impression of him was what I read about him during the battle of the ridges on Pelieu. The way the 1st Marine Regiment was just fed into a meat grinder until they were combat ineffective left a bad taste.
NEED BETTER CAMERA ANGLE GUYS ALL 3 IN ONE SHOT WOULD BE WAY BETTER EASIER ON THE EYES. 4 SURE
01:00:00 ...
Do you missfff it.
Algorithm.
Disbanding the Baath party and Iraq Military was incompetent.
lol that comment about canadian soceity wont tollerat lol if that were true our entire military would be gone. The militray treated like shit in Canada
Talk less and listen more. You two spend way too much time talking directly over your guest!!!
Conversations go both ways, and it is a conversational podcast interview not a monologue.
Question .......doea EL MOZOTE, EL SALVADOR DEC 11 1981 COUNT? I GUESS NOT! A WAR.....YOU ALL DONT KNOW ABOUT! INSERT, OBSERVE, EXTRACT.......what soes that mean? INSERT, OBSERVE, EXTRACT......then COVER IT UP! BY REAGAN and his " war on drugs". I have met only 10 others who were there beyond my unit! DONT TALK ABOUT IT! ORDERS!!!!!!!!! 39 years ago! Your little SPEC OPS....ARE A JOKE!
What is your obsession with a man who was acquitted of war crimes by a jury of his peers?