THIS is why my Channel Exists! $250 amp vs $2500 Amp

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  • @cheapaudioman
    @cheapaudioman  3 месяца назад +4

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    • @mrpmj00
      @mrpmj00 3 месяца назад +1

      Being a Parasound amp owner (zonemaster 2, 2125v2), I took it for granted that every amplifier has what mine has: at least a trigger input (bonus is a trigger output to turn on the subwoofers), loop out RCA for subwoofers, bonus crossover Hz adjustment, bonus gain adjustment, bonus stereo/bridged selector.
      While shopping for a new amp (< $3k) in the last week, I was surprised that very few amps even have a trigger input. We're in 2024! Components need to talk to the TV, AVR, etc.
      No trigger input=no sale for me (I cancelled my order for the Musical Fidelity M6s PRX amplifier and a used Passlab xa25 which is $5k new).
      The NAD C298 and M23 have so many options in the back like my Parasound.

  • @bobgraves5833
    @bobgraves5833 2 месяца назад +11

    I'm 64 years old. My ears are about the same age. Why would I spend $2400 on my $240 ears? I built the Mavin 6 pack speakers about 6 years ago. They still sound awesome to me. I also built a center channel from him that blew away my Polk center channel. Movies shake my entire house with no subwoofer. He told me I didn't need one. Now I have an SVS that helps the cats jump on top of my Mavins. Sometimes I'm caught off guard and swing my head to the side to see the sound I'm hearing. The stage is wide. Got about $500 in the whole thing. Powered by a Yamaha 300 series AV unit. Love your channel because I love truth! Thanks, Audioman!

  • @middleearthltd
    @middleearthltd 3 месяца назад +25

    In a world of $70k power cables and $300K speakers and other luxury audio components it is a beautiful thing that we can find components that do in fact equal or exceed the market pricing in terms of value and performance.
    It is also a beautiful thing that beautiful things exist.
    Sales, open box, scratch and dent, used, factory refurbished as well as market
    competition/technological advancement are the value purchaser’s friend.
    Great video content.
    🙏🙏🙏 to the Cheap and Value Audio Man

    • @inplainview1
      @inplainview1 3 месяца назад +1

      Perfectly stated.

    • @taidee
      @taidee 3 месяца назад +2

      I like the fact that you don't insult those who buy at low end of the budget as well as those who buy higher end. These days you find people insulting the other group and it just muddies the whole field.

  • @dipanjanbiswas6580
    @dipanjanbiswas6580 3 месяца назад +34

    Thanks for sharing the history behind CheapAudioMan 😃

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 месяца назад +6

      My pleasure!

    • @johnfisher3929
      @johnfisher3929 3 месяца назад

      @@cheapaudiomanYou said you had too many kids running around. How many? How many if you count the neighbor kids? (You look like a household that has a lot of neighbor kids around. With me, it was my mom. She kept handing out cookies. She thought I didn’t have enough friends.)(Now you know a little of my history. Fair is fair.)

  • @simondenwalt5889
    @simondenwalt5889 3 месяца назад +6

    Thank you for your channel. I'm old and spent many years on Tanks so I've lost some hearing. An honest salesman at Listen Up told me when shopping for new speakers, "If you can't hear the difference, don't pay for the difference" Just like your channel......Saves me lots of money. thanks again.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for
      Your service, brother. I was also on a steel war machine but it was underwater and not nearly as cool

  • @mcjonner
    @mcjonner 3 месяца назад +10

    It would be nice to see a comparison between a receiver and nice integrated amp. Some people are on the fence between the 2 or even use the receiver in a 2.1 config just for convenience factor which I personally do. My living room wound up not having a great layout so I never set it the 5.1 and am music centric anyways so for me personally I've always wondered how much I leave on the table using a receiver compared to integrated

  • @scottward7813
    @scottward7813 3 месяца назад +3

    Thanks Randy...great approachable information and know-how as always!

  • @tkdmaste12
    @tkdmaste12 3 месяца назад +2

    Need this! I was looking for an in-depth review of the Loxjie

  • @Audiodreamer192-24
    @Audiodreamer192-24 3 месяца назад +21

    I said it before and I’ll say it again….
    That amp is gorgeous!!!!
    If it sounds half as good as it looks it’s worth 2500 any day.
    I always hear people say “don’t waste your money”…..
    If it brings you joy and meets your expectations then it’s money well spent….
    I’d rather save for a better product then buy something cheap that under preforms to my expectations.
    To each their own and power to you.
    Do what makes you happy despite what anyone else tells you! 👍

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 месяца назад +3

      agreed. these are both excellent values

    • @Audiodreamer192-24
      @Audiodreamer192-24 3 месяца назад +2

      @@cheapaudioman ya for sure!

    • @ThorRavnsborg
      @ThorRavnsborg 3 месяца назад +2

      I completely agree with the do what makes you happy notion and I also have to say that I appreciate how tastes differ. Personally I prefer a minimalistic appearance and I dislike colored lighting (blue in particular) so I'm happier with my pair of cheap Aiyima A07 Max amps running in mono mode (powered by two laptop bricks I got for free).

    • @carlosfedericolopezspindol3103
      @carlosfedericolopezspindol3103 3 месяца назад +1

      As gorgeous as a Rolex with the same blueish display!

    • @Audiodreamer192-24
      @Audiodreamer192-24 3 месяца назад +1

      @@ThorRavnsborg that’s awesome bro!!
      There’s an elegance with minimalist gear as well!
      It’s all good and a life long hobby 🍻

  • @rarfn8035
    @rarfn8035 3 месяца назад +1

    Love seeing your Tecnodec TT. I bought one at the Florida Expo and took a picture of it with you. I use the Goldring 1012GX cartridge. Sweeeeeet.

  • @PhillioDoede
    @PhillioDoede 3 месяца назад +3

    Great review and totally agree. Amps like this Loxjie, The SMSL AL200, Yamaha S301, and Fosi ZA3 have really changed the game for you can get for less than $500 in an amplifier. There is way better stuff out there, you just pay disproportionately more to get there but if you spend enough time with your music its probably worth it to you to make that jump to something nicer at some point down the road.

  • @jinseong88
    @jinseong88 3 месяца назад

    I love the precision science at 11:15. Keep doing what you do

  • @Simon_Hawkshaw
    @Simon_Hawkshaw 3 месяца назад +3

    Great review and perspectives. Thanks for the background info too. Gotta love VU meters in the signal path. Take care, Sir, and keep your content coming.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks, you too!

    • @Audiodreamer192-24
      @Audiodreamer192-24 3 месяца назад +1

      Ya I’m always concerned with anything in the signal path. I use bare wire to the binding posts, which most people don’t. I get the ease of use with banana plugs, pins and spades but I’d rather take the time to very carefully connect bare wire because I don’t trust the quality of those connectors in the signal path. Paranoia probably but it helps me sleep at night 😂

    • @Fidelity_Sound
      @Fidelity_Sound 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Audiodreamer192-24that’s called OCD. There are more important things to worry about in the world. Lol.

    • @Audiodreamer192-24
      @Audiodreamer192-24 3 месяца назад +2

      @@Fidelity_Sound oh I know….. we all have our quirks, I shared it for a laugh .

    • @Fidelity_Sound
      @Fidelity_Sound 3 месяца назад

      @@Audiodreamer192-24I get it completely. 😊

  • @ginom407
    @ginom407 3 месяца назад +4

    Great video Randy! Nice watch too. 👍👍👍

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 месяца назад

      Thanks, brother!

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 месяца назад

      Rocking the blue steinhart today

    • @ginom407
      @ginom407 3 месяца назад

      I thought that's what you were wearing. Very Nice!

  • @NeilBlanchard
    @NeilBlanchard 3 месяца назад +4

    The phono stage on the Advance Paris A10 Classic has 3 levels of capacitance preloading I see (at 8:48). 100pF, 200pF and 320pF. This will help a LOT in the treble response for your turntable/cartridge/interconnects - if there isn't enough treble at 100pF, then you can bump it up to 200pF or 320pF and get more treble.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 месяца назад +2

      I conveniently left this out of the video because I didn’t know what it did til right now, Neil

    • @NeilBlanchard
      @NeilBlanchard 3 месяца назад

      ​@@cheapaudiomanright - higher capacitance preloading offsets the inherent capacitance of the cartridge/wiring/interconnects. You can select the level that sounds best.
      The AkitikA PR-102 optional phono preamp has about 6 levels of capactance preloading with jumpers on the board; as well as gain level. For a bit less than $100 it is a great phono stage.

  • @rhorto01
    @rhorto01 3 месяца назад +3

    I recently picked up a Dayton Audio HTA100, and for giggles I first put it into my main system with my Klipsch Heresies and it weas a lot of fun. Was it better than the $3K worth of gear (Schitt and Decware) I normally use? No, but it sounded pretty good. And I love it in my office system with a pair of Kanto YU 5.25" passives. A really nice match.

  • @steveh545
    @steveh545 3 месяца назад

    great vid. Sort of a philosophical vlog, but i liked it. Just got the Douk meter doodad. hooking it up tomorrow with a variety of new gear to test. My first trip into 'hifi'. After reading stereophile for many years as a young adult, and lusting over their top 10 lists at a budget. Even their 'budget' stuff was outside of my budget. Although, i did buy a pair of Grade headphones, which I still own lol.

  • @Feliciano12v
    @Feliciano12v 3 месяца назад +4

    Smooth transition into the ad.

    • @johnfisher3929
      @johnfisher3929 3 месяца назад

      Plus: one of the best presentations. I expect to see Randy on the Flextape Channel any day now. And I mean that in the nicest possible way!

  • @jimhibert
    @jimhibert 3 месяца назад +6

    Yes! This is exactly correct, especially in an age of compromised music sources (.mp3, Bluetooth, etc.). Technology has brought us affordable hifi that exceeds the limits of human hearing.

    • @jimhibert
      @jimhibert 3 месяца назад +2

      Another point - Adjustable VU meters? Other than visual appeal, VU meters are meaningless in a listening environment.

    • @sportbikeguy9875
      @sportbikeguy9875 3 месяца назад

      some people like to spend money on audio just to brag about it..... the rest of us are definitely not spending 10K on audio equipment just to listen to an MP3. anybody serious about music quality is listening to lossless audio

    • @user-oh6ev7mj5q
      @user-oh6ev7mj5q Месяц назад

      but sadly all modern equipment is made of dark gray or black ugly boxes. Nothing like elegant wooden style of earlier equipment.

  • @taidee
    @taidee 3 месяца назад

    Well done Randy (CAM), very good work.

  • @mrpmj00
    @mrpmj00 3 месяца назад +1

    Being a Parasound amp owner (zonemaster 2, 2125v2), I took it for granted that every amplifier has what mine has: at least a trigger input (bonus is a trigger output to turn on the subwoofers), loop out RCA for subwoofers, bonus crossover Hz adjustment, bonus gain adjustment, bonus stereo/bridged selector.
    While shopping for a new amp (< $3k) in the last week, I was surprised that very few amps even have a trigger input. We're in 2024! Components need to talk to the TV, AVR, etc.
    No trigger input=no sale for me (I cancelled my order for the Musical Fidelity M6s PRX amplifier and a used Passlab xa25 which is $5k new).
    The NAD C298 and M23 have so many options in the back like my Parasound.

  • @Fidelity_Sound
    @Fidelity_Sound 3 месяца назад +4

    I can state this. I have the SMSL AO300 which is very similar to this Loxjie (minus the phono stage). I also own the Yamaha A-S2200 which is a really really nice integrated. Not related to the lower priced plastic cousins like the 801 etc. . I ran a set of Mofi Sourcepoint 10 from each of these. Anyone with even the most deficient hearing would have been able to tell which amp was driving what. There is a difference and it’s all about that power supply. I do think these smallish class D amps have their place for sure.

    • @GoggleAX
      @GoggleAX 3 месяца назад +1

      Exactly and thank you for adding this very relevant information via your direct experience.

    • @JerryWDaviscom
      @JerryWDaviscom 3 месяца назад +1

      Yep, and power in reserve makes the sound seem so effortless. Muscler matters, particularly at mid to low volume. The sound seems to fill the space with detail and smooth, effortless grace.

    • @nudebaboon4874
      @nudebaboon4874 3 месяца назад

      I have the a-s2200, it's my end game amp.

  • @vsdfsdfsdfwew
    @vsdfsdfsdfwew 3 месяца назад

    great advice. Thanks man!

  • @CaptainXanax
    @CaptainXanax 3 месяца назад +1

    This seems to be a common theme in any musical equipment. When i was a youngin I played the violin. My first violin was right about $100. A couple of years later, my folks bought me an $800 violin with nice wooden bow. The difference was like night and day. I played $2500-5000 violins whenever i had a chance to wring one out, but sound-wise they didn't have a whole lot more to offer than what i had. My instructor had 2 violins that he played consistently. One was about $25k and the other was $300k. Yes, his $25k violin made mine sound like a string tied to a metal bucket. But, I heard him play both of his back to back and yes, the 300k one sounded a little better. That was what he played in live performances. Did it sound $275k better? I guess that depends on who you ask. It didn't to me and probably didn't to 99.999% of the people who listened to him play. But to him, it was worth the price.

  • @louise_8546
    @louise_8546 3 месяца назад

    Loxjie are an SMSL sister brand (I think?). I have the Loxjie D30 at home (ESS newer version), hooked up to an Aiyima A08 Pro and Suca-Audio Tube-T1 preamp. Speakers - Dali Opticon 2 MkII.

  • @davidbartochowski7832
    @davidbartochowski7832 3 месяца назад

    Great review is always I would I would take that extra money and upgrade the speakers that's where the most listening changes happen in your speakers keep up the great reviews

  • @stevenj2380
    @stevenj2380 3 месяца назад +1

    Just watching because you are always worth watching. I like to know what's up.
    System status:
    No new components for now. Not even desired speakers. . Nothing more is worth buying as the bigger problem is apartment environment. I spent instead on some new Nikon gear. Been a while for that, and have now started with Z mirrorless (add to keeping DSLRs).
    Vintage 3 head NAD is cassette deck back in another better shop to have just failed main motor (no more of, has be from other they have). The refurb. is gonna cost me total almost $1k. Still much less than a serviced, fine, vintage NAK (best upgrade or replace path option, Just Audio has, for example) or such .
    The refurb / repair last year of NAD vintage integrated amp seems good

  • @chevyimp5857
    @chevyimp5857 3 месяца назад

    Absolutely!! Great video 😊

  • @foreverendeavors6210
    @foreverendeavors6210 3 месяца назад

    I inherited a harmon kardon receiver probably 15 years ago, the thing is a machine, I even had one channel dedicated to an automotive set of subwoofers for a very long time at 2.5 ohms, never an issue, our church did a storage cleanup and was going to throw away a carver pt1250 amp, so I grabbed it, the fans had stopped working in it, I found some fan motors, wired them through a thermal switch, have it going to a legion audio 15 that I reconed, it runs off the sub output of the harmon, we later inherited some jbl studio series bookshelf speakers, so the harmon runs two kicker 10's in a gatley audio marketplace find enclosure, and also the jbl's, i put carbon fiber dust caps on the kickers so they appear to be more home audio, both channels of the carver to the duel voice coil 15, and all headed up with an aiyima BT tube preamp with some ge Jan tubes in it, so all in maybe 600$ and sounds incredible, some passive crossovers on the kickers, sub out runs the carver, gains set to not be overwhelming on the big sub, very very happy with this setup..

  • @PARDS2
    @PARDS2 3 месяца назад +1

    CheapAudio/WatchMan---Randy Great Job as usual----btw,,,,,what watch do you have on? thx!!! steve

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 месяца назад

      My prized possession. Rolex Deapsea JC. Thanks so much for watching!

  • @art.re0193
    @art.re0193 3 месяца назад

    As someone who just recently put a system together consisting of Loxjie A40 and Elac DBR62's, I am very happy with the sound and features.

  • @wisniewskitracy
    @wisniewskitracy 3 месяца назад

    I love the A/B comparisons big$$ Gear vs. Regular Guy Gear. Randy, do high-end cables make a difference? Can you hear the pure audio bliss, or is it snake oil?

  • @cdgerhart
    @cdgerhart 3 месяца назад +5

    Why not throw the Fosi za3 in the mix?

  • @redroosterguitars
    @redroosterguitars 3 месяца назад +3

    Loxjie A40 is what the cheapaudioman has been telling us all along. Why spend the big bucks when you can be the babe of cheapness and the envy of all your cheap friends it's a thing! I love mine it cranks and sounds awesome!!

    • @johnfisher3929
      @johnfisher3929 3 месяца назад

      I LOVE having the envy of my cheap friends-but not enough to pay for it! 👈koan.

  • @liamporter1137
    @liamporter1137 3 месяца назад

    Awesome pure mission of this channel.

  • @johngutmanis3580
    @johngutmanis3580 3 месяца назад

    Hey Randy, how does the Paris A 10 classic compare to your McIntosh integrated amp? I love the looks of my McIntosh c50 preamp, but also like the idea of selling it for around 4500, selling my McIntosh mc352 for about 3000, and enjoying my Klipsch La Scala’s with a buying a brand new A10. What do you think?

  • @D1N02
    @D1N02 3 месяца назад +3

    I bet you can come closer with a Fosi ZA3 or Aiyima A07max . A bit more work but a lot more sound.

  • @tessie4204
    @tessie4204 3 месяца назад

    LOXJIE A40 vs WiiM Amp vs NAD D3045. Wich is best for the Elac DBR62 speakers?

  • @randyplunkett2842
    @randyplunkett2842 3 месяца назад

    Looks like your phone has a OtterBox Defender type case. Did the Ankerwork charge through case well? Thanks.

  • @evaodland7349
    @evaodland7349 3 месяца назад

    u lerned us all reel gud - thankee

  • @bengleason508
    @bengleason508 3 месяца назад

    Thank you Randy!

  • @mantamanne8280
    @mantamanne8280 3 месяца назад +1

    Hi - I am from Germany and I like to watch your chanel. But I am shocked how different are the prices
    ..... if you look around the world. The Advance Paris A10 classic I can get here for 1499 € by some dealers.

  • @ericgonzales854
    @ericgonzales854 3 месяца назад

    Would u buy a marantez NR1200 or the emotiva pre amp.. Im looking for a new pre amp. Both are $399

  • @rapier5
    @rapier5 3 месяца назад +1

    When comparing integrated amps I suggest a test using a reference DAC to both to get a handle on the amplifiers themselves. It so muddies the water when comparing the internal DAC's in integrated amps too. The upgrade path for cheap audiophiles today should always run through DAC's. It would be best to know what the preferred analog portion of the compared amps are. Actually I think manufacturers are messing up by putting DAC's in so many integrated amps. Put the money in the amp, not an average and quickly worsening, comparatively, DAC. Hell, hook them both up right now to your J2. It is likely that mid cheap system, $700 to $1000, could include an amp with a built in DAC that will not be used.

  • @radioaxe6964
    @radioaxe6964 3 месяца назад +1

    Great topic. Well reported soldier👍

  • @tomgilbertson2279
    @tomgilbertson2279 3 месяца назад

    Thanks Randy for the informational video. Curious , I recall you had a MAC integrated or receiver?? Anyway, how does the sound of the A10 compare to your MAC?

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 месяца назад +1

      I had some vintage Mac stuff. c15 preamp and the 7270 amp. warmer, very very dynamic. Fun but I hardly used it and I had a lot of money wrapped up in it so I sold it to fund some other projects

    • @tomgilbertson2279
      @tomgilbertson2279 3 месяца назад

      Thanks Randy.

  • @SuperBicycleRepairMan
    @SuperBicycleRepairMan 3 месяца назад

    Liking how you spin it. Worth saying that the speaker choice isn't that much of a worry with the expensive amp. If your driving well behaved bookshelf speakers things get easier for the budget amp. It's worth checking out second hand mid range gear as an alternative to new budget hifi. Especially if your thinking about driving big speakers. All doable for around $1000 too.

  • @sccanj
    @sccanj 2 месяца назад

    Funny because I have a Moon Simaudio (older 2000’s model) and also had LS50’s. I didn’t quite love the sound, short story is I sold the LS50s when I bought and compared them to a pair of Revel M16, now I love the sound, I won’t be touching anything for a while

  • @tombier9170
    @tombier9170 3 месяца назад

    Great comparison! While I'd love to sit watching the big blue V/U meters flip back and forth while enjoying the excellence of a high end phone stage it's just too much for my budget. Also, hearing loss is a thing. My hearing at 60+ is far worse than it was at 20 when I bought my first decent gear. (Yamaha CR440)

  • @anthonyalvarado1635
    @anthonyalvarado1635 3 месяца назад +2

    Dude the fail butron has me literally crying from laughing. Randy your the best man love your channel

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 месяца назад

      ha. I get a kick out of it

    • @johnfisher3929
      @johnfisher3929 3 месяца назад

      @@cheapaudiomanYou need one that says, “RMS? I don’t THINK so.”

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 месяца назад

      @@johnfisher3929 brilliant

  • @Brian_Romska
    @Brian_Romska 3 месяца назад

    Good stuff thanks Randy!

  • @SVW1976
    @SVW1976 3 месяца назад

    Has anyone ever replaced a pair of RCA inputs? For example I have an old shelf system EQ that I'd like to use on my PC setup and I can only get sound through it if i hold the rca cables a certain way.

  • @shaunyweaver1144
    @shaunyweaver1144 3 месяца назад +3

    For years I looked for the magic tech that would leave me in audio heaven, well there isn't one . Keep it simple .. Warm to warm no, cool to cool no, balance is the only equation that matters . However it's all great fun ..

    • @Artcore103
      @Artcore103 3 месяца назад

      Good electronics are neither warm nor cool, unless they're reactive to complex/varying impedance loads, or are not designed well, or are designed purposely to not be flat. All upstream components should produce and amplify exactly the input signal without change.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 месяца назад

      Well said!

  • @nathanaelcole8466
    @nathanaelcole8466 3 месяца назад +4

    I don't get the whole VU meter thing. And the cheaper one here looks nice to me.

    • @tylerhackman6832
      @tylerhackman6832 3 месяца назад

      The advance Paris looks like such a knock off. I can’t get behind it. Hell you can get a proper McIntosh amp for $2500 ALL day on the used market. And they don’t break.

  • @cheechthehat
    @cheechthehat 3 месяца назад

    I wonder if you heard a Simaudio now, that you have had more experience with other gear, if you would feel differently. For my Klipsch Cornwall , a Simaudio Moon I5 was the best when compared to Rotel 1572mkII, Audire Forte, a Marantz separates set, A Schiit set w/Aegir power amp and best a Cronus Audio Magnum II. You now know more about gear matching than before as well. I have not heard the Sim you had, but all the ones I have heard sound right up there with Audio Research & McIntosh

  • @guravi4295
    @guravi4295 3 месяца назад

    Randy\CHAM, any chance you would review the Klipsch Synergy B100 and or B200 ?

  • @user-sw9dp5in9j
    @user-sw9dp5in9j 3 месяца назад

    Love it! Hifi fight dome! q

  • @frozenrobert5735
    @frozenrobert5735 3 месяца назад

    I'm using a 1974 Yamaha CR-800 integrated amp that I bought on FB for $400 + 2 decent QED speakers (bought on sale). For my tired, middle-aged, tinnitus-filled ears, it's a dream system. Cheap audio rulez!

  • @chrisselner5005
    @chrisselner5005 3 месяца назад

    The audiophile space is interesting because there is a budget for everything. Now if cam bought a moon amp and ls50 and he didn't like the ls50 that's ok. I have a pair and I think they're amazing. I bought at 800 brand new. At that price they are head and shoulders above everything under 1k. Build, bass, detail, imaging and arguably looks. There's a reason they're on the stereophile a list every year.
    Anyway, I think this comparo is interesting but the use case is different. Having a very compact amp with those inputs, especially HDMI, opens them up to home theater, the sound bar crowd, desktop systems and home systems as well. If I didn't already have an elac ea101 for my computer system and a unforced dda120 which the drivers don't work with windows any more, and no more support, same with elac no more android support for the app (700 euro amp, got for 400) I'd be looking at the wiim amp or this loxji (headphone jack is a huge bonus).
    I have several amps marantz pm15s1 which would be similar to this advance but it's 100 analog, but it's almost 20kg and gorgeous, but I also have nad 316bee, the elac, the unforced, marantz 6011 ht and I struggle to hear the difference ....

  • @FranklyPeetoons
    @FranklyPeetoons 3 месяца назад

    I replicated your exact action figger experience - except with Japanese anime robot kits and figgers and accessories from the 80s. Voltron, Astro Boy, Zeroids, and much more. Threw 'em in a closet until the early 2000s and then discovered the ebay wild west (which was much friendlier back then regarding taxes and fees). Under two hunnert bux worth of goods turned into a HUGE+++ multiple massive return, with which I bought video gear. Under the impression that High Definition was a passing fad, I bought a studio full of standard definition DV equipment. Oops.

  • @user-ke2ey6dn4k
    @user-ke2ey6dn4k 3 месяца назад

    Thanks Randy

  • @parthsane
    @parthsane 3 месяца назад

    Have anyone of you heard of the sony ss-chx5?
    I see a few on ebay and was thinking they could be an option

  • @MultiRalvarado
    @MultiRalvarado 3 месяца назад

    Its market, happens on everything. Furniture a $50 chair vs $500 chair. A car, a cheap car vs expensive. Does the same. I worked on manufacture for example, a peacemaker total production cost $500, market price $15k. Same happens in hifi market.The global market brought options with a low cost of manufacture with a good price. Im listening low cost class D amps from Fosi and Aiyima. Sound pretty good. But recently for fun i tried an small preamp P3 directly to my main power amplifier bypassing the $1k pre with the $80. I like it a lot. Sounded very good, still using it in that way. Definitely a $1k pre has some more body and soundstage. But the cost for that is waaay too much. There are some audiophile channels and they doesnt want to admit a $50 or $100 audio gear sound as good as their high price equipment…

  • @CharlieBass5
    @CharlieBass5 3 месяца назад

    Now you got me trying to figure out the name of the cellphone provider that's commercial said, "CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW???"

  • @eirikbakke1125
    @eirikbakke1125 3 месяца назад

    CheapAudioMan vs ExpensiveWatchMan? 😀 Nice James Cameron DeepSea you have on your wrist there 👏

  • @razzman2987
    @razzman2987 3 месяца назад +2

    A lada brings you where you need to go from point A to B .
    So does a ferrari 😊

    • @johnfisher3929
      @johnfisher3929 3 месяца назад

      And a Lada is WAY better over the speed bumps!

  • @TonyMacina
    @TonyMacina 3 месяца назад

    Between Loxjie, Fiio, Fosi, Douk, Schitt and Topping there's so many great relatively budget brands, most of which I found on your reviews! I'd rather take affordable, small and good than expensive, giant and great.

  • @michaelwright1602
    @michaelwright1602 3 месяца назад +6

    Well, I can say, at least to my ears, the $74 Fosi V3 sounds better than the, at time of purchase, $900 XTZ Edge A2-400 amplifier. My buddy says his Fosi ZA3 sounds better than his $2000 PS Audio S300. He put the S300 up for sale on US Audio Mart after doing a shoot out. Go look, it is on there, for sale out of Michigan... Diminishing returns folks.

    • @jayem1826
      @jayem1826 3 месяца назад +1

      I just sent him a reply on his ad.
      Date: 22 Match, 2024. Time: 11pm Manila time

    • @michaelwright1602
      @michaelwright1602 3 месяца назад

      @@jayem1826 I heard, he called me today, did you get his reply?

  • @twistyflorahifiaudio8741
    @twistyflorahifiaudio8741 3 месяца назад +4

    The loxjie is good enough for most. Is it good enough for you?

    • @Simon_Hawkshaw
      @Simon_Hawkshaw 3 месяца назад

      My D40 Pro is currently very good enough for me as a DAC with a Topping A90 Discrete doing duty as an HP amp.

  • @chrisstudebaker7548
    @chrisstudebaker7548 3 месяца назад +1

    With all that Scottish blood running through my veins, I cannot stand to let go of my money. So I will shop relentlessly looking for the highest performance/quality to price ratio. Geshelli is the perfect example with the base J2S/Archel2.5/E2 products. Table-slapping sound, outstanding sales and support, and very high quality craftsmanship. SMSL is decent, the A0300 (the brother to Loxjie minus the phono preamp) is very high sound quality, functionality, with "we'll see" durability (SU8s DAC died after 1 year). Neil Blanchard has several low cost improvements to cheap bookshelves (

  • @larrylevan3378
    @larrylevan3378 3 месяца назад

    Compared my rather expensive Prima Luna tube amp (couple of thousand) to an emotiva Bas X amp (couple of hundred), could absolutely tell no difference between the two, this experience utterly changed my view of Audiophilia and Hi Fi

  • @DAVID-io9nj
    @DAVID-io9nj 3 месяца назад +1

    Simple fact is vast percentage of home audio is done using less than 5 watts of amp power. Why else does a 3/5 watt tube amp work for a lot of people? Why be surprised that a relatively low cost, low power amp will work as well as a high cost, high power amp? Electrical engineering is a mature field of study. Has been for over 50 years. A well designed, good performing amp is easily achieved. Most of the perceived differences is imagined. A properly set up double blind test demonstrates that over and over again. Just saying.

  • @user-oh6ev7mj5q
    @user-oh6ev7mj5q Месяц назад

    Please are there still in existance all in one home stereos (modern) with speakers (wooden) + turntable + casette and radio (with big horizontal blue light panel) + equalizer with many buttons, no blutooth, no streaming or network, no remote. Must have round chrome knobs for bass, treble and big volume knob. I hate picking components individualy and the mess of cables.

  • @sfbassplayer207
    @sfbassplayer207 3 месяца назад

    “listen to more music” - baseline wisdom! Thank you.

  • @tedjones112
    @tedjones112 2 месяца назад

    what streamer would you pair with the Loxjie ?

  • @BostonMike68
    @BostonMike68 3 месяца назад

    This is why I design and build my own speakers and I try to sell them once in awhile. I put $200 crossovers in them MDF covered with solid.75 oak and 10" reference woofers and they are unbelievable. I just try sell them what I pay for parts not even labor but people would rather buy Chinese made big box overpriced speakers

  • @tylerflores4761
    @tylerflores4761 3 месяца назад +3

    I really love the look of that a 110 classic. Esp gauges, not to mention hdmi. Love it!!

    • @tylerflores4761
      @tylerflores4761 3 месяца назад +1

      Hey was looking at the site they have a advance paris ux-1 that is a am/fm tuner, a cd player, AND a network streamer.

    • @Audiodreamer192-24
      @Audiodreamer192-24 3 месяца назад +1

      @@tylerflores4761
      I didn’t know there was an ecosystem. That’s awesome, beauty gear!

    • @tylerflores4761
      @tylerflores4761 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Audiodreamer192-24
      Been looking for options lately that all aesthetically matches that has enough power.
      intregated amp with enough current and hdmi, with a aesthetically brand matching cd player/tuner, cd player is hard to come by.
      I really like this…..

    • @tylerflores4761
      @tylerflores4761 3 месяца назад

      Not enough juice check out the a12 classic. No power amp required im sure!

    • @Audiodreamer192-24
      @Audiodreamer192-24 3 месяца назад +1

      @@tylerflores4761 ya I hear that, I like it too. All that would look pretty sweet on anybody’s rack. Randy says it sounds great too . I just got the dmp a6 master edition like 6 ish weeks ago , so my wife would have a bird if I got that right now. But I will check it out and who knows, maybe sneak it on my “future list” lol🍻

  • @jonathangonzalez327
    @jonathangonzalez327 3 месяца назад

    Value wise, vintage audio equipment is hard to beat. But it certainly isn't for everyone, and some popular models can be too expensive. But there are still plenty of options, and $200 would get you something decent. Usually, the "low powered" receivers get overlooked, but 25 watts of 1970's power will sound better than 300 watts of Class D Chinese power.

  • @Expedition18
    @Expedition18 3 месяца назад

    Way to go CAM.👍

  • @peterbigblock
    @peterbigblock 5 дней назад

    Once you realize that most of the classic albums you love listening to were mixed on Yamaha NS-10s, your search for $5,000 speaker cables might seem silly.

  • @asswhole010
    @asswhole010 3 месяца назад

    Hey randy, things I would like to see on your channel is: speaker with best sound stage, best home theater receiver, and maybe wiggle into to pa equipment for those who like it loud and good sounding. Plus w comparison between traditional hifi and high end pa gear would also be cool.. thanks

  • @irhymeswithpie
    @irhymeswithpie 2 месяца назад

    Would love to see a Yamaha A-S301 vs Loxjie A40 if you get a chance :) thanks ur the best k thx bai

  • @Coneman3
    @Coneman3 3 месяца назад

    Audio lab hard to beat for hi end value

  • @davidtomsett
    @davidtomsett 3 месяца назад

    They also make the A40 Pro, with an ESS DAC chip and MQA.

  • @davidcross890
    @davidcross890 3 месяца назад

    Great Surveillance Tool

  • @geoffwalmsley3066
    @geoffwalmsley3066 3 месяца назад +1

    Just remember 35% of the cost of the product is built in for profit,so the more you spend, the more you lose, worked in a hifi shop,our cut was 15%, the 20% then went to the manufacturer, this was 20years ago,things may have changed,but i doubt it .

  • @mistafishman
    @mistafishman 2 месяца назад

    This is very reminiscent of the SMSL AO300

  • @vvsousa
    @vvsousa 3 месяца назад +1

    I think the A10 is one of the best amplifiers you can buy!!

  • @stevenconnectingtogether6703
    @stevenconnectingtogether6703 3 месяца назад

    Move to A12 for even more better .. I recommended they swap back the TI dac chip to AKM 4499 or ESS 9039Pro to make it sound better and standout of most integrated amp 😅 Please bear in mind, Loxjie is poor support & QC issue

  • @j.neumann1722
    @j.neumann1722 3 месяца назад +2

    Love your conclusions 😅👍🏻😎

    • @donneumann6546
      @donneumann6546 3 месяца назад +1

      Nice name!

    • @johnfisher3929
      @johnfisher3929 3 месяца назад

      Imagine how his mind must work to come to those conclusions! It must be like a hifi Waring blender!

    • @johnfisher3929
      @johnfisher3929 3 месяца назад +1

      And it’s good to see you Neumanns sticking together!

    • @j.neumann1722
      @j.neumann1722 3 месяца назад

      @@donneumann6546 Neumann is not just a Name it’s a statement 🤪

  • @honoratros4392
    @honoratros4392 3 месяца назад

    Audvance Paris A10 clasic 1.790 € in Spain

  • @supercompooper
    @supercompooper 3 месяца назад

    I think cheap audio man has to add some platinum iridium crystals with oxygen-free nature that are aligned to the proper ratios of the harmonic interval so that he can properly tune his ears to resonate with the interior resonances of the spheres. I mean this is just basic science.

  • @Nrustica
    @Nrustica 2 месяца назад

    6 years ago i purchased a matched yamaha system for $239, i'm not going to do any better
    @cheapaudioman should do a speaker placement instruction video. one high and one low seems to improve separation/dispersion between floor and ceiling

  • @izak001
    @izak001 3 месяца назад

    Yep it is - i very like FIIO - but this company don't make power AMP, my next favorite company is EDIFIER - i have speker S3000pro - very good and have own AMP and DAC ... my favorite company, because i hear lot of speker is Vienna Acoustics - extreme good speakers from HAYDN to upper class - but i have small room for listening, then i don't need big speaker.
    My history - i buy M-audio sound card, old pioneer AMP - full anaolog stereo, and very old HIFI fit radio, cassete and LP - in CR and flac era - this cost 1/0000 price of speker quality - nice one, very good spekers from SHARP - old classic, no to much BASS - i don't like it, i more like analytic sound, moniors etc.
    One time new computers stop support PCI - but have extreme good sound card - relly very good chip support 24/192 output - SPD/F or optical and new device cat D - support XMOS sound card, optical and cable digital input + USB + analog input and 80W output to speaker and hedpone amplifier support up to 400 or 500 ohms - perfect for this time - old fashion, no BT etc.
    Nex time becuase i have some hedphone from edifier (BT ANC) + 250ohms BD + some shneheiser and other - i buy active EDIFIER S3000 - hey in speker is important room too, not only spekers, have USB input, optical, SPD/F ... analog, who care about analog ;-) ... and i replace my old DAC with FIIO K7BT - extremmly good, now i have FIIO hedphones - both 360Ohms + new planar + hifiman sundara - all ballnced, DAC support BT too
    Maybe if my EDIFIER sopeker die i repair it or buy new model, becuaser this speakers is exelent for this price - or i buy Vienna Acoustics HAYDN
    Now my perfenrc, i don't need LAMP - this i A class, consiume lot of energy, have 90dB backroud noise and is needed filtered - yep and have lower qulaity output as CD 16/44 - ype have exact quality as LP - i prefer D class all analog convert to 32/512 - YEP or 32/256 - and all filters make digital - this is for interanl usage in DAC, not for play, for this i have 24/192 max, this is OK for equlizer too
    Maybe if i buy Vienna Acoustics HAYDN - then i use FIIO as pereamp and buy some only AMP - no digital inpiute etc, full analog, becuase DAC is FIIO and is exelent ;-)
    Btw why is LP to FLAC good ? ... LP don't have better qulaity that CD, ghave worse, but is impossible apply compresors and all sthe sh*** that modern ehmm_"music" do, becase in LP is impossible play this sh* - then is better dynamic range that produces moder studio, that dopn;'t understand music and is full of id* - yes i say all inerpereter that don't have good dyn. range that is amater and his music is garbage if he use this mastering .... how to copy LP? - put LP to water - becuase play best if is wet, play virgin LP record to FLAC 24/96 ... done, ype is btw possible convert to mp3 256kbs od 320 or OGG - this is OK too - if someone have master tape or digital - then can make very good 24/192 ... btw this is old mastering standard, today is 32/256 or 32/512 - but this is only for masteing, not needed for play - this is like RAW in photography, old 24/192 now 32/512 and y can save everything ;-))
    BTW sometime play old DAC with LAMP good, why? because decrease qulity, cut freqency and speker play better - yep sometime is lees better, becuase speker can't play all the freqency in same time, littlebitit limiter can very hlep, special in area, that we don't hear well

  • @starker1971
    @starker1971 3 месяца назад

    Love this video since I wish to avoid the wrong side of diminishing returns.
    Did I hear correctly the
    Fosi Audio LC30 may not adjust to get a good meter swing compared to the Douk VU3 ? Is this confirmed ?
    I am typically happy under 70db so I wouldn't want to risk getting very little needle movement.

  • @ordinaryjoe2247
    @ordinaryjoe2247 3 месяца назад

    OK, how about this? Someone can ...
    - Buy a Loxjie, Fosi, Yamaha, Rotel or whatever plain looking amplifier that satisfies them sonically
    - Put that in a cabinet and close the door
    - Acquire an old Marantz, Pioneer, or whatever vintage amplifier they find particularly attractive, with a channel or two that no longer work, but the VU meters and such still work (cheap? maybe even free?)
    - Put THAT on top of the hifi cabinet
    Then proceed to ...
    - Enjoy wonderful sound reproduction without breaking the bank
    - Enjoy the visual art of some of the best faces that hifi manufacturers have ever produced
    - Blow away their friends when it appears that they're listening to a handsome vintage amplifier from the past, but adjust the volume and other settings from the couch using a remote
    Will this achieve the actual goal for many of us? Heck, I might try this myself this weekend with my old receiver and my newer Rotel. I can almost guarantee that my wife will get a good laugh out of it at my expense once she realizes what I'm doing. That's okay. I'm used to it.

  • @SlotHits777
    @SlotHits777 3 месяца назад

    The 2500 is going to have a lower noise floor too

  • @farrd14
    @farrd14 3 месяца назад

    Nice DeepSea😉

  • @DavidBurns-sq4kd
    @DavidBurns-sq4kd 3 месяца назад

    Just an update on the LC 30 gain issue they have offered to replace my unit to fix this. Post one out. Appears a couple of parts inside need to be replaced to resolve this. If a customer has the ability to fit these they will send them out. Fosi customer service is top notch so far 👌
    Will update when it arrives.

  • @Csnumber1
    @Csnumber1 3 месяца назад

    Why spend more, cause they don’t break like these small cheap amps…..which mind you, do sound great, sometimes loaded with modern day features. I had a Loxjie A30 driving a pair of Canton PlusS, Sattelites rated at 4ohms, and feeding a Martin Logan 10 inch Sub. One day after about two months…it just stopped working. First Amplifier to ever do so. All metal casing, great feature set, and its minimal footprint, checked all the boxes for my bedroom system. Simply no kite output.