one of the most frightening things for me is how completely dependent we are on so many systems we do not understand and how no control over. If these systems break down most people will be utterly lost and helpless being so thoroughly entrenched in conditioned ignorance as we are. Especially around basics like food and energy.
So true. The book "1177bc the year ci ilization collapsed" speaks to the collapse of trade and expressly the trade if tin (needed for bronze), was based on climate and earthquakes throughout the mediteranean and into souther asia. It relevant to now. Our societies are not resilient. The fall for the first world will be much greater than for those in less developed countries. And, I am not even an anthropogenic climate change guy. Peak phosphorous or agriculture collapse will collapse us independent of co2 or global temps.
Very true! And we now see many trying to usher in authoritarian regimes presumably believing that it will preserve what in fact is already lost. Personally, I’m all for a system collapse. The sooner the better. Whenever it happens it is going to be extremely painful to many. The longer we hang onto something that is rotten at the core the more neurosis we build up inside ourselves. Better to meet what’s inevitable head on. On a personal level what’s called for now is a readiness for ones own spiritually growth and get a grip over the much larger picture in which these events unfold. That means to actually reconnect with our own spiritual dimensions that isn’t disturbed by worldly upheavals. This is not some flakey ideas disconnected with reality, but a reconnection with the same principles that human beings have been practicing for hundred of thousands of years but we seem to have forgotten in our age. I’m not suggesting adopting any of the Abrahamic dogmas found within Christianity, Islam or Judaism. These traditions are part of the problem we’re trying to solve and cannot be what future humans will find wisdom in. Not possible. Now is the time to find our true ground beyond dogma, ideology and false promises.
Over 50%food is wasted, the current food system is not efficient in the least bit. The economic system is a square peg for the environments round hole. People can uncouple the current to small scale decentralized diversified agriculture.@@jmc0369
In an urban society, everything connects. Each person's needs are fed by the skills of many others. Our lives are woven together in a fabric. But the connections that make society strong also make it vulnerable.
‘Humanity today is like a waking dreamer, caught between the fantasies of sleep and the chaos of the real world. The mind seeks but cannot find the precise place and hour. we have created a Star Wars civilization, with Stone Age emotions, medieval institutions, and godlike technology. we thrash about. We are terribly confused by the mere fact of our existence, and a danger to ourselves and to the rest of life.’ ~ E. O. Wilson.
"Godlike technology"... eh? Meanwhile we can't even fix basic things like blindness, deafness, and obesity. I think EO like many people makes statements more to have you think it is profound vs. its truth value. When we fix basic things like the above mentioned, while having functional societies, then maybe we can call our technology "Godlike".
Thank you for your work... guys... Jem, printed your paper off in about 2018 .... I tried handing it out to two teachers at the school I was substitute teaching at... gave it to them in November and by the end of the school year... neither had read it yet... one was an American History teacher and the other was a Science teacher.... I never asked them the next year as to whether they had read it... but, neither came to me to discuss it sooooo I take it they did not...
In their defense, they may have read it and not wanted to open up and spread a discussion of ideas that could have got all 3 of you fired. It could at least have got you simply not called back if it reached enough ears that you were "peddling conspiracy theories" to all who would listen. In their conformist way they may have been looking out for you by not encouraging you. Substitute teacher (been there!) is not a powerful enough place in the system to be rocking the boat from, they'll just ditch you. Engage people who do not have heirarchical power over you. At least protect yourself with a "real" teaching position with a license and union contract before you start openly challenging what is being taught. Our system barely delivers "Academic Freedom" to tenured professors in prestigious universities; you're not going to find so much as a wisp of it as a substitute in a school.
Hey, too late to worry about that... I worked there for 2 yrs... would have been longer if not for Covid... they all KNEW my stance on this issue and Planetary overshoot... one day in a history class, the teacher left a movie to play about "How oil built the 20th century"... soooo, first period, when it first started playing and the guy said that on the movie, I automatically said "...and destroyed the 21st century"... THEN, by about 4 period, when the movie started, a kid piped up "....and destroyed the 21 st century1... this was highschool... I am really glad I did all I did to spread the information to those kids. I talked about it when I could , in a TEACHING way, with giving them sources, too.
Building lifeboats/safety nets within communities. I live in a small village but that is exactly what I am trying to do. I collect tools and skills. I am researching and experimenting what food plants can grow in my location. I am increasing a forest garden to include perennial food plants as well as other needed forest products.
Collect seeds if you can, maybe even some for plants that don't grow well in your area. You may be able to trade them or give them away to help others.
Listen: You accept collapse of capitalism. So - you accept collapse of civilization. After that: All Nuclear Power Plants explode. End Do what ever you really love.
The central problem of a market economy is, “…If it does not sustain its growth, it will collapse…, And yet, if it does sustain its growth, it will collapse even more dramatically” (David Fleming, Surviving the Future: Culture, Carnival and Capital in the Aftermath of the Market Economy).
Growth generates wealth. Wealth generates rising standards of living and quality of life. Market economies simply facilitate the transaction of goods and services. No matter what kind of economic ideology you embrace, you will still need to provide yourself with food, shelter and clothing. There is no free lunch.
@@anthonymorris5084 Market economies are a self feeding resource extraction machine. They exist to extract resources as tokens of social standing (i.e., wealth) at ever higher quantities. Because they operate through a feedback mechanism they cannot be sustained without ever growing input of new energy and other resources. We really don't need more than 10% of what our market economies produce, but we cannot stop producing it. I don't have an economic ideology. I don't have a solution to our problem. I am just very aware that it is a problem that is killing us.
@@kimwelch4652 The entire western world embraces capitalism. The Western world represents the most successful societies this planet has ever seen. Success in any way you'd like to define it. It doesn't matter what economic ideology you embrace if you don't want to live in a mud hut you will require resource extraction. *"They exist to extract resources as tokens of social standing"* Market economies exist to facilitate the transaction of goods and services. Period. *"We really don't need more than 10% of what our market economies produce"* And what mechanism or arbiter should we utilize to determine what we "need"? You? Define "need". Do we need RUclips which you seemingly enjoy using"? Do we need the device you're using to post? Yet both enhance our lives. Market economies have natural mechanisms that tell us what we need. It's called profit. A profit can only be realized by successfully providing what humanity wants, needs and demands. Failure to achieve this and no profit is realized. Profits in fact, are in direct correlation to the success of the product or service and humanity's desire to obtain it. What better arbiter is there? Can you think of one? *"I don't have an economic ideology. I don't have a solution to our problem. I am just very aware that it is a problem that is killing us."* Nothing is killing us. There are 8 billion people on the planet and growing. Millions continue to be lifted out of poverty. You're also confusing capitalism with consumption. How do we curtail consumption? ban it, regulate it, ration it, demonize it? No thanks, this is the path to authoritarianism. Capitalism is always the solution. Where do you think new energy sources are going to come from? Somalia? Ghana? Lebanon? They will come from entrepreneurs and investors who have access to capital.
I enjoyed reading these perspectives because I share them both. I am absolutely antiauthoritarian. I believe in the right to fruits of ones own labor and remain unmolested by whoever calls themselve government or highwayman alike. Ive travel through Mises/Austrian Economics and Ancap, then on to syndicalism and market anarchy. The only way for the market to work correctly, i think, is to remove all protectionist amd regulatory rackets, let the crooks be culled, the fat be trimmed by force, and simultaneously restructure society around soilhealth/food/agrarianism. Event the cities should ve involved in soil and food production. Soil health = human health. We are soil; from it we sustain and to it we return.
@@jmc0369 Market economies are a grift. Their whole existence is to exponentially extract resources to produce tokens of social status (i.e. wealth) which are then hoarded to establish social hierarchies according to the primate social ordering instinct evolved in humans. They are technically unnecessary for human survival, though they do help in species large scale organization to the detriment of the individual. The crooks are never culled because they are integral to the markets themselves. When you remove the controls on markets you let them run amok and destroy everything in their path for the creation of useless wealth. (Yes, there is useful wealth, but we need much much less of it) We are in the situation we are in because of uncontrolled exponentially growing markets not because of regulations. You might find David Fleming's "Surviving the Future" which proposes Lean economies that are heavily restricted local economies and are the antithesis of the unrestricted global markets we have today. Yes, all our markets today are very much unregulated or under-regulated despite what the propaganda says. However, no one has ever successfully engineered an economy, so if we get there, it will likely be out of necessity rather than choice. Agrarianism is the opposite of Free-market-ism so I am not sure how you hop from one to the other.
Finally, yes, collapse is a process not an event! And, we've been in it for a small number of years now. It is also accelerating. Haven't read Bendell's new book yet, but it is now on my list.
@@anthonymorris5084 The global economy for one. And while we never really reached global cooperation, what cooperation there is is eroding. Along with that, crop yields have been declining globally due to shifts in climate around the world.
@@anthonymorris5084 Somebodies head is buried deep in the sand. Far be it from me to wake you up. Go back to sleep. All the data you need is easily available. It's not my job to convert you to reality. Sooner rather than later the evidence will be so obvious you will not be able to get around it, but you will try. Good luck with that.
@@anthonymorris5084 Thankfully, the Earth contains an infinite amount of fossil fuels, an infinite amount of forests to chop down, an infinite amount of fish in the ocean, etc., and we can add an infinite amount of carbon to the atmosphere without unwanted consequences, in order to maintain exponential economic growth forever. Otherwise, we might be in a bad way.
@@kevincrady2831 All of your posts contain hyperbole, sarcasm and alarmism. You are not examining any of this calmly and rationally. Everything that is alive is infinite. Fish reproduce and trees get replanted. Everything we dig up from the ground is finite. You're making the claim that we've reached this finite point and all is lost. It simply isn't true. The issue is over population not warming. Over population is the foundation of almost every single threat facing humanity. Are you aware that the ratio between the amount of fossil fuels we consume compared to the number of known reserves has never been better? We are finding oil and gas everywhere. In the 1950's geologists proclaimed that the US had reached peak oil. In 1973 an energy "crisis" was proclaimed. Today the US is the largest producer of energy in the world. Many scientists stated that humanity would starve to death by the 1980's because there would be no way to feed the projected amount of people. Data proves that humanity has never been safer, healthier or more prosperous than at any time in history, by any measurement you care to examine. It's a very large planet and humans are expert problem solvers. As you go through life, because I'm guessing you're quite young, you will be subjected to doomsday preachers continuously.
@@dianewallace6064 what do you mean by "for now"? Are you anticipating a global collapse sometimes soon, with dramatic and action-packed consequences possibly involving the deaths of many people? Because if you are I LOVE that stuff its so exciting to listen to!!! PLEASE TELL ME I WANT TO HEAR THE JUICY DETAILS
That paper, Deep Adaptation, really woke me up to the greater urgency of climate change. Since then, like the author, I have found things are far, far worse than we had been lead to believe. We are in the midst of global collapse that is irreversible and terminal. We are on path to becoming essentially extinct and I doubt we make it past the turn of the century. Sounds impossible until you understand the nature of exponential functions and what we are dealing with. This feeling of things accelerating is real and a result of exponential acceleration of these global changes. I suggest checking out Global Warming - Heating in the Pipeline by James Hansen. We've locked in 10 degrees centigrade of warming. There is no surviving that.
Hyperbolic nonsense. No scientist on the face of this Earth is predicting human extinction. Data proves that humanity has never been safer, healthier or more prosperous than at any time in history. How do you reconcile this?
Death denial is a survival tactic & is understandable. & this is why it's a big factor leading to inaction. We often put off things, thinking there will always be a future date. It is only when we come to life's end that we fret at wasting it away. Live life to it's fullest, keeping in mind that each day may be your last, & you will have few regrets.
I arrived at collapse as a process thinking myself a while back.... It won't be like the movies with a big bang and things end... It is going to take a number of decades but it will be punctuated with short sharp episodes ...
@@anthonymorris5084 you're such a moron, you're obviously white, rich and employed... The issues aren't, is there anything great happening, it's the fact that everything that is great about society is under direct threat by our cultural blind spots ya numpty .... Haven't you worked that out yet? People don't care because it is bad, people care because they don't want to lose the hard won progress that HAS been made....
@@anthonymorris5084 Of course, I see you live Steven Pinker and Co. While not denying that life improved a lot for a lot of people, please don't play down the negative effects of our systems.
@@adambazso9207 I have no idea who Steven Pinker even is. Nice attempt at invalidation though. This is what people resort to when they have no argument. The data is overwhelming. By any measurement you care to examine. Life is improving across the globe. Your argument suddenly states that things aren't perfect. No kidding. Environmentalists myopically believe that the Earth is some kind of pristine place of harmony and purity. That humans, like a parasite are wrecking everything. The fact is the Earth is a hostile place that will kill you at any opportunity. Humans have made it more livable with each passing decade. Our "systems" ensure that life improves and that we become better stewards of the environment. Humans are problem solvers.
We are already well beyond 2c. when calculating the more than 40 heat trapping gases, including water vapor. Next year's guaranteed ice free Arctic Ocean will send the latent heat, no longer melting ice, soaring, adding to the already unprecedented ENSO. Time to finish that bucket list, pronto!!!
i am an ecological activist and monetary reformer... I think we need radical socio-economic change... But I think overshoot is the main disaster. Still a climate skeptic, here... I think that climate and co2 distracts people frome the disaster of techno-industrial overshoot and how billionaires and millionaires are the main burden... as is, indeed, the system that forces us all in destructive lifestyles, as Jem says. Jem is one of the very intelligent people who understands the monetary issue. That is great. On climate, I think we could have long and interesting discussions. I don't like the word. I prefer overshoot or eco-system breakdown. As a former professional arborist... I think we need more trees. And a global, ineterst-free mutual credit system... and abolishing the stock-market and corporations.
The IPCC reports serve a useful purpose in documenting our failures for future survivors. Anyone that squeaks through the Fermi great filter will need a look back to know what not to do. The COPs are a collaborative space for people who want to make money off climate change and climate change awareness. So, yeah, Bendell has it right, the COPs are much worse than useless. The negotiations could be better done between diplomats, where the oil industry is left out of the discussion.
@@Mike80528 Technically, I was making a joke. A very dark joke, but that is my style of humor. Still, I would not underestimate human ingenuity when faced with extinction. This is not our first dance with death, and it is really hard to eliminate 8 billion of anything much less human beings. Also, I would not assume that what comes out the other side is recognizably human as real evolution occurs at the edge of extinction.
@@kimwelch4652 I get it, but your comment about ingenuity smacks a bit of hubris. You cannot actually think humanity has the ability to literally prop up life on a dying planet do you? Evolution is being well outpaced by change. There is no other side to this. Sorry, but I do not have magical thinking.
@@Mike80528 Okay, then we go extinct. How does that change the equation. Are you suggesting we just lay down and die? Generally, as a species, animals including humans struggle to avoid dying so pre- deciding on an existential case is mostly a waste of time. You do what you can and look for of opportunities for survival. That's what adaptation is all about. I do not advocate a rosy picture. Everything will not be fine. Our world is ending, but as Conan the Barbarian would say when stranded in the desert: you can't go back, you can't stay here, you can only go forward.
Industrial capitalism is the ass-end of the Renaissance period. The Renaissance was when most people did not have machinery but did have access to the tools of alchemy. We could create a timeline for which alchemy is applied. How long does the average alchemical process last, the duration? This will give us a rough view into how much longer society is likely to continue with it's "full" function.
Money comes from private credit loans and government fiat. Private credit expansion has natural limits, whereas government fiat is unlimited in countries that control their currencies and have floating exchange rates
I have a program in mind. Day1 program. Where people make themselves famous. Gimlet acting guild supported in RUclips or some such thing. Eventually, a person with enough importance will be recognized. Through the global media movement of Day1. Region by region people will turn in their ideas on film via social media. They will be scrutinized by other members of the Day1 program. The winners will move up a slot. Until eventually the best pieces are so popular that the ideas in them are at least somewhat implemented in the real world.
@@roberthornack1692 life will very likely survive unless our panicked species and the power structures controlling it does something very drastic when it's clear our normality is ending like undertake large scale nuclear war. Much of the life living now will struggle to adapt to survive, and may not, but in a few million years (the spans of time this planet actually operates at), life will be thriving again most likely with new creatures and organisms inhabiting ecological niches left empty due to the conceit and arrogance of one species of "intelligent" ape
Life isn’t going to end on earth. There could be a polar reversal killing many countries but life will find a way. The mini ice ages 400 years ago and 1000 years ago collapsed Europe but they reproduced and lived on.
The present generations are going to be remembered with distain by future generations who will refer to them as “the did nothings” or as the “did nothing generations”. They will be remembered for their self-centeredness, for their selfishness, for their shortsightedness and for their stupidity.
Probably. But, like the chap in the video said, we're not in control. We never were. The incomparable advantages offered by fossil fuels mean that any society that rejected their use would be absolutely clobbered by any society that went all-in. It was the same situation as with the development of agriculture, but on steroids and crack. Any effort to "cut back" on fossil fuels just lowers their prices and creates a perverse incentive for others to use them. Then those people (or nations) gain the overwhelming competitive advantage cheap fossil fuels provide. Fossil fuels are like some dark Lovecraftian magic left over from the Great Old Ones (well, "great" probably doesn't apply to the plants and bacteria that became fossil fuels...), lying in wait for millions of years for some clever critter to come along and fall into their trap. If it wasn't us, it would have been the corvids or the raccoons. 😉
@@kevincrady2831 We can of course use the Carbon for an alternative and more beneficial purpose such as the construction of Clarke's space freight elevator.
@@kevincrady2831If you love, feed, care for, maintain, train, upgrade and bury something, such as an automobile or a computer, or any cherished materialistic treasure for that matter, is it alive? It’s certainly sucking the life out of its “owner”. Maybe these material creations are alive and smarter than we think? Maybe the AI brain wants us to create it's body, nervous system and it's "Internet of things" organs so that it can leave the nest and explore the cosmos?
@@kevincrady2831Humanity's problem is that its technological prowess has outstripped it's moral/ethical acumen! This places us squarely upon the broad path to self-annihilation. I believe that this is the Great Filter that explains Fermi's Paradox. Where are all the aliens? They destroyed themselves! The universe is likely filled with the ruins of such extinct civilizations. The purpose of our universe appears to be, either by chance or by design, to produce an ethical creature (like unto God?) and to destroy all other unethical species (through self-extinction). Morality thus determines the continued evolution or extinction of a civilized sentient species. No God or gods need be invoked to punish or save, we do this ourselves, by our own ethical decisions and actions. Thus the universe functions as a giant high-pass filter. That is why the reestablishment of Free Will through the reestablishment of individual control over our "means of subsistence" (our individual life-support systems) ought to be everyone's primary goal and the cornerstone of public policy reform. Our survival as individuals and as a species depends upon it and throwing off the yoke of dependence upon big business monopolies/big government "providers" (and controllers) and other elitist hierarchical totalitarian structures and reasserting our own responsibility to provide for and control ourselves and our local communities and ecosystems is the first step! Cheers from the USA!
“Lifeboats”? Mine is a 1983 Hunter 34 sailboat, being fixed, then outfitted similar to Neumeyer’s “Sailing the Farm” book. Climate Change, what I term Abrupt Biosphere Collapse, is happening half as fast, south of the Equator (Jan. 2023 paper), which gives us more time to adapt to the PETM conditions, coming within 200 years. Doomers? Scientific realists, more accurately.
I totally agree. My life boat is a 55 foot Herreshoff three master in New Zealand. The "global south" will be th best place in the future.... Sadly. I am from Europe, but look what is going on there....
@@gerdfehlbaum7059 I'm attempting to get through Neumyers "Sailing the Farm", which I downloaded in PDF form. Some good ideas for more sustainability, there.
@@brushstroke3733 If my cancer is too advanced for Newcastle vaccine to handle, I might be gone before the rest of you. Pheochromocytosas can be fought with the chicken vaccine for Newcastle Disease. And, now I'm fighting Parvovirus, too. I don't know how to give up, that's all. Because of what I know about Climate Change, and Pheo releasing hormones that cause anxiety and panic attacks, they thought I was Bipolar 1, and locked me up in a phych ward, for over a week. Pheo is also causing Bradycardia and unstable blood pressure. I need to prep the boat, but these other things keep getting in the way. Damn, at 66, and alone, my life is getting hard.
@@gerdfehlbaum7059 If Putin goes crazy, I am aware that few targets exist in South America. I'm eyeing the Rio Grande, in southern Argentina, myself. Fresh water, in a dry part of the country.
Khrishna Murti: "It is no sign of mental health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Earth will rebalance to a lower energy state (2nd Law of Thermodynamics).
Yes whatever we do in this system. Seems to be without perspective. The very richest rule the world maybe without knowing about the real dangers and technically it could be possible to organise drawdown at scale. That'll be most urgent
distortionatively warped synonym or meaning taht you refferanced as a synonym or used as in refferance as a synonym as a synoym in refferance to " moral psychology" was that evil was going to fall implcitly and implictly and that implicitly act as if impllicitly that is going to make ppl sad something that gives them a bad quality of life and is evil upon them anyway within living amongst in humanity / crony capitalism
It’s not just the capitalist system, it is largely the political and social systems which have largely fallen into servitude of capitalism, which, in effect has allowed capitalism to run wild. Look at the failure of the supply chain during Covid. That system was designed to maximize profit; it was not designed to be resilient to disruption. Most Western cultural systems are similarly designed and implemented. As these systems come under stress due to climate change (think of the 2024 hurricanes in the SE United States), they will be largely unresponsive and cascade into one another (expenditures funded by local municipalities, homeowner’s insurance, mortgage companies). Our largely corrupt political system will not be able to respond because those who control it have never thought in those ways. And even if they did the capitalist forces will not yield to adaptation. By the time most people get a grip on what is happening, it will be too late. Hoping or believing it will be otherwise is foolish. Just the momentum of where we are today means we have already passed the tipping point, and it will become more obvious every year.
Technology may have advanced enough to release civilization from the confines of the second law of thermodynamics. These confines were imposed during Victorian England's scientific and religious cultural fascination with steam engines. The second law is behind modern refgeration needing electrical energy to compress the refrigerent to force it to release as waste the heat that it has removed from the refrigerator's service interior in the cooling part of the refrigerent's circulation. There is also discarded heat from mechanical friction and electrical resistance. The total released and discarded heat minus the removed heat equal the electrical input but the attached conversion of electricity into heat is forced. Refrigeration by the principle that energy is conserved should produce electricity instead of consuming it. It makes more sense that refrigerators should yield electricity because energy is widely known to change form with no ultimate path of energy gain or loss being found. Therefore any form of fully recyclable energy can be cycled endlessly in any quantity. In an extreme case senario, full heat recycling, all electric, very isolated underground, undersea, or space communities would be highly survivable with self sufficient EMP resistant LED light banks, automated vertical farms, thaw resistant frozen food storehouses, factories, dwellings, and self contained elevators and horizontal transports. In a flourishing civillization senario, small self sufficient electric or cooling devices of many kinds and styles like lamps, smartphones, hotplates, water heaters, cooler chests, fans, radios, TVs, cameras, security devices, robot test equipment, scales, transaction terminals, wall clocks, open or ciosed for business luminus signs, power hand tools, ditch diggers, pumps, and personal transports, would be available for immediate use incrementally anywhere as people see fit. Some equipment groups could be consolidated on local networks. If a high majority thinks our civilization should geoengineer gigatons or teratons of carbon dioxide out of our environment, instalations using devices that convert ambient heat into electricity can hypothetically be scaled up do it with a choice of comsequences including many beneficial ones. Energy sensible refrigerators that absorb heat and yield electricity would complement computers as computing consumes electricity and yields heat. Computing would be free. Chips could have energy recycling built in. A simple rectifier crystal can, iust short of a replicatable long term demonstration of a powerful prototype, almost certainly filter the random thermal motioren of electrons or discrete positiive charged voids called holes so the electric current flowing in one direction predominates. At low system voltage a filtrate of one polarity predominates only a little but there is always usable electrical power derived from the source, which is Johnson Nyquest thermal electrical noise. This net electrical filtrate can be aggregated in a group of separate diodes in consistent alignment parallel creating widely scalable electrical power. The maximum energy is converted from ambient heat to productive electricity when the electrical load is matched to the array impeadence. Matched impeadence output (watts) is k (Boltźman's constant), one point three eight x 10^ minus 23, times T (temperature Kelvin) times bandwidth (0 Hz to a natural limit ~2 THz @ 290 K) times rectification halving and nanowatt power level rectification efficiency, times the number of diodes in the array. For reference, there are a billion cells of 1000 square nanometer area each per square millimeter, 100 billion per square centimeter. Order is imposed on the random thermal motion of electrons by the structual orderlyness of a diode array made of diodes made within a slab: ______________________ - Out 🔻🔻🔻🔻🔻🔻🔻 ______________________ + Out All the P type semiconductor anodes abut a metal conductive plane deposited on the top face of the slab with nonrectifying joins; all the N type semiconductor cathodes abut the bottom face. As the polarity filtered electrical energy is exported, the amount of thermal energy in the group of diodes decreases. This group cooling will draw heat in from the surrounding ambient heat at a rate depending on the filtering rate and thermal resistance between the group and ambient gas, liquid, or solid warmer than absolute zero. There is a lot of ambient heat on our planet, more in equatorial dry desert summer days and less in polar desert winter nights. Focusing on explaining the electronic behavior of one composition of simple diode, a near flawless crystal of silicon is modified by implanting a small amount of phosphorus (N type)on one side from a ohmic contact end to a junction where the additive is suddenly and completely changed to boron (P type) with minimal disturbance of the crystal lattice. The crystal then continues to another ohmic contact. A region of high electrical resistance forms at the junction in this type of diode when the phosphorous near the ĵunction donates electrons that are free to move elsewhere while leaving phosphorus ions held in the crystal while the boron donates holes which are similalarly free to move. The two types of mobile charges mutually clear each other away near the junction leaving little electrical conductivity. An equlibrium width of this region is settled between the phosphorus, boron, electrons, and holes. Thermal noise is beyond steady state equlibrium. Thermal noise transients, where mobile electrons move from the phosphorus added side to the boron added side ride transient extra conductivity so the forward moving electrons are preferentally filtered into the external circuit. Mobile electrons are units of electric current. They lose their thermal energy of motion and gain electromotive force, another name for voltage, as they transition between the junction and the array electrical tap. Inside the diode, heat is absorbed: outside the diode, to exactly the same extent, an attached electrical circuit is energized. The voltage of a diode array is likely to be small so many similar arrays need to be put in series to build higher voltage. Understanding diodes is one way to become convinced that Johnson Nyquest thermal electrical noise can be rectified and aggregated. Self assembling development teams may find many ways to accomplish this wide mission. Taxonomically there should be many ways ways to convert heat directly into electricity. A practical device may use an array of Au needles in a SiO2 matrix abutting N type GaAs. These were made in the 1970s when registration technology was poor so it was easier to fabricate arrays and select one diode than just make one diode. There are other plausible breeches of the second law of thermodynamics. Hopefully a lot of people will join in expanding the breech. Please share the successes or setbacks of your efforts. These devices would probably become segmented commodities sold with minimal margin over supply cost. They would be manufactured by advanced automation that does not need financial incentive. Applicable best practices would be adopted. Business details would be open public knowledge. Associated people should move as negotiated and freely and honestly talk. Commerce would be a planetary scale unified conglomerate of diverse local cooperatives. There is no need of wealth extracting top commanders. We do not need often token philanthropy from the top if the wide majority of people can afford to be generous. Aloha Charles M Brown Kilauea Kauai Hawaii 96754
The New Age. Where social media is used for communication and entertainment. Around the world. Whomsoever should gain the popularity position will be the ones who are translated by the world. Everybody will watch them. Everybody will learn from them. We all stand to benefit. Imperial maternity? The collapse and it's impossibility.
whether he calls himself a doomer or a doomster I love these guys either way :D. God if ther was a convention of doomers I would hug each and every one of them :D :D
But why are you working yourself to death? I guess it's either because you want to get rich, or you need to do it just to survive. If the former - then you do have time to worry about climate change, but you choose not to. If the latter, then I'd say that's because of capitalism - the engine of climate change. In that case, capitalism has you over a barrel, and there's nothing you can do. We're trying to build a commons economy, where people wouldn't have to work themselves to death just to survive. We're not asking people who are struggling to build the commons economy, just to join it as and when it can provide affordability and jobs.
I don't know what doomer groups Jem is studying, but the doomers I follow are not like that. They're more like Jem. People like Paul Erlich, Elliot Jacobson, Sam Mitchell.
Socioecological interdependent nature is reality; our true and inescapable nature. Highest value to human beings must be human beings. Its greater supportive ecology must be the next highest value, in a value system. The only thing that works for us all is global human equity and a shared moderate sustainable level of prosperity. We should strive for the highest level of sustainable prosperity, but like work, the benefit must be equitable. We may be on track for a runaway scenario to be averted unless we all coordinate globally to mitigate climatological and ecological collapse. A paper just published in Nature quantifies why we see warming way faster than the models predicted and we may be in track for a catastrophic warming of some 14C by 2100. Frightening. Side note: All automation must be in public hands, else it benefits a Few at a cost to Many....
Bendell has grown on me. Found him rather wishy washy and a little too 'new-agey' to begin with. He's not exactly like Roger Hallam in his stridency. But he is very smart and knowledgeable, and his more measured and thoughtful manner is certainly preferable to the arrogant, know-it-all hyperbole of people such as Guy McPherson.
you actually have to qualify or clairify that you'd rather have humanity live than for humanty to di undr capitalism as if there is no othr option or alterative or youd rather or like have your rather capitalism d*e alongside humanity and have it be forced to and have humanity be dragged down with it by climate catastrophe than have it liver in another stat that it is th only or that if not it is not only stat concentration of pwer regression self destruction amongst humanity with most abject bottom of barrel social disfunctin and you rather have humanity be subject to that and have that catastrohphe and hmanity be subject to it rather than it die youd rather humnanity d*es along with it so you've rather have humanity basically be no havb capio die alongside hiumanity or wher to wher humanity is forced to go down with it rather than to give bilionaires hand outs of an overarching regressive means of inequuivelance be and as means of control and be subject if capi has to di than humanity has to di youd rather humanity di alongside and be forced to di with capi than for capi to die and not take the species with it humanioty be forced to die along side it rather than it perishing and humanity persisingyouve rather have it there or have it die so basically if theres no capitalism from its deficiency its on a suicide going to take everyone out every each lifeform rather than face a reality whrere it is that renders it as beng redundant deficient single most deficent specimine of anything in all of the history of life and existance itself youd rather so it exists in a form time where lifeforms around it it subjugates that are subject to it and wher it is rendered deficent amongst them adn them amongst this thing is rendered of complete disfunction youd rather have it not exist than for anything else to exist along side or without it so if it dies we all have to die for to not face tangible accountability for its deficency amongst life itself interms of losing power not just in rational or logical ralm
Oil maybe bad. But if you’re against oil you must teach the truth. The U.S. declared bankruptcy in 1971. The U.S. only retained power globally cause oil was sold in dollars. Let’s abandon oil. But then let’s actually grow a pair and send the military out of Saudi Arabia and abandon the military bases in foreign countries. Do you know how polluting and dirty it is for the U.S. to run nato??? It’s fine for the U.S. to abandon oil, but for the love of good please give up global power and reduce consumption and war. That means if Russia wants Ukraine let Russia have Ukraine. End of story. Pollution wise the U.S. needs to stop being involved in foreign wars cause wars directly causes pollution and wastes tons of oil.
NOT. THAT. WORDY "Capitalism collapse Civilisation collapse Nuclear Power Plants explode." 20$😂😂 You and all of us - are angry because of our stupidity. Let's talk😊 Who cares about the mechanistic symptoms?
one of the most frightening things for me is how completely dependent we are on so many systems we do not understand and how no control over. If these systems break down most people will be utterly lost and helpless being so thoroughly entrenched in conditioned ignorance as we are. Especially around basics like food and energy.
So true. The book "1177bc the year ci ilization collapsed" speaks to the collapse of trade and expressly the trade if tin (needed for bronze), was based on climate and earthquakes throughout the mediteranean and into souther asia. It relevant to now.
Our societies are not resilient. The fall for the first world will be much greater than for those in less developed countries. And, I am not even an anthropogenic climate change guy. Peak phosphorous or agriculture collapse will collapse us independent of co2 or global temps.
Very true! And we now see many trying to usher in authoritarian regimes presumably believing that it will preserve what in fact is already lost. Personally, I’m all for a system collapse. The sooner the better. Whenever it happens it is going to be extremely painful to many. The longer we hang onto something that is rotten at the core the more neurosis we build up inside ourselves. Better to meet what’s inevitable head on.
On a personal level what’s called for now is a readiness for ones own spiritually growth and get a grip over the much larger picture in which these events unfold. That means to actually reconnect with our own spiritual dimensions that isn’t disturbed by worldly upheavals. This is not some flakey ideas disconnected with reality, but a reconnection with the same principles that human beings have been practicing for hundred of thousands of years but we seem to have forgotten in our age. I’m not suggesting adopting any of the Abrahamic dogmas found within Christianity, Islam or Judaism. These traditions are part of the problem we’re trying to solve and cannot be what future humans will find wisdom in. Not possible. Now is the time to find our true ground beyond dogma, ideology and false promises.
from my point of view it was always like that in history. The impression and illusion of living life freely appeared first in the last centuries
Over 50%food is wasted, the current food system is not efficient in the least bit. The economic system is a square peg for the environments round hole. People can uncouple the current to small scale decentralized diversified agriculture.@@jmc0369
In an urban society, everything connects. Each person's needs are fed by the skills of many others. Our lives are woven together in a fabric. But the connections that make society strong also make it vulnerable.
‘Humanity today is like a waking dreamer, caught between the fantasies of sleep and the chaos of the real world. The mind seeks but cannot find the precise place and hour. we have created a Star Wars civilization, with Stone Age emotions, medieval institutions, and godlike technology. we thrash about. We are terribly confused by the mere fact of our existence, and a danger to ourselves and to the rest of life.’
~ E. O. Wilson.
Amen
E.O. Wilson was an amazing man. Great quote.
Wow, that is a powerful quote!
"Godlike technology"... eh? Meanwhile we can't even fix basic things like blindness, deafness, and obesity. I think EO like many people makes statements more to have you think it is profound vs. its truth value. When we fix basic things like the above mentioned, while having functional societies, then maybe we can call our technology "Godlike".
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Thank you for your work... guys... Jem, printed your paper off in about 2018 .... I tried handing it out to two teachers at the school I was substitute teaching at... gave it to them in November and by the end of the school year... neither had read it yet... one was an American History teacher and the other was a Science teacher.... I never asked them the next year as to whether they had read it... but, neither came to me to discuss it sooooo I take it they did not...
They're musicians playing while the Titanic sinks.
In their defense, they may have read it and not wanted to open up and spread a discussion of ideas that could have got all 3 of you fired. It could at least have got you simply not called back if it reached enough ears that you were "peddling conspiracy theories" to all who would listen. In their conformist way they may have been looking out for you by not encouraging you. Substitute teacher (been there!) is not a powerful enough place in the system to be rocking the boat from, they'll just ditch you. Engage people who do not have heirarchical power over you. At least protect yourself with a "real" teaching position with a license and union contract before you start openly challenging what is being taught. Our system barely delivers "Academic Freedom" to tenured professors in prestigious universities; you're not going to find so much as a wisp of it as a substitute in a school.
@@peteunderdown6889😮 yes
they will be affected, anyway
Hey, too late to worry about that... I worked there for 2 yrs... would have been longer if not for Covid... they all KNEW my stance on this issue and Planetary overshoot... one day in a history class, the teacher left a movie to play about "How oil built the 20th century"... soooo, first period, when it first started playing and the guy said that on the movie, I automatically said "...and destroyed the 21st century"... THEN, by about 4 period, when the movie started, a kid piped up "....and destroyed the 21 st century1... this was highschool... I am really glad I did all I did to spread the information to those kids. I talked about it when I could , in a TEACHING way, with giving them sources, too.
Building lifeboats/safety nets within communities. I live in a small village but that is exactly what I am trying to do.
I collect tools and skills.
I am researching and experimenting what food plants can grow in my location.
I am increasing a forest garden to include perennial food plants as well as other needed forest products.
Collect seeds if you can, maybe even some for plants that don't grow well in your area. You may be able to trade them or give them away to help others.
@@brushstroke3733 plants that do well, I grow out to seed. I have a large seed bank as well.😁
Listen: You accept collapse of capitalism.
So - you accept collapse of civilization.
After that: All Nuclear Power Plants explode. End
Do what ever you really love.
The central problem of a market economy is, “…If it does not sustain its growth, it will collapse…, And yet, if it does sustain its growth, it will collapse even more dramatically” (David Fleming, Surviving the Future: Culture, Carnival and Capital in the Aftermath of the Market Economy).
Growth generates wealth. Wealth generates rising standards of living and quality of life. Market economies simply facilitate the transaction of goods and services. No matter what kind of economic ideology you embrace, you will still need to provide yourself with food, shelter and clothing. There is no free lunch.
@@anthonymorris5084 Market economies are a self feeding resource extraction machine. They exist to extract resources as tokens of social standing (i.e., wealth) at ever higher quantities. Because they operate through a feedback mechanism they cannot be sustained without ever growing input of new energy and other resources. We really don't need more than 10% of what our market economies produce, but we cannot stop producing it. I don't have an economic ideology. I don't have a solution to our problem. I am just very aware that it is a problem that is killing us.
@@kimwelch4652 The entire western world embraces capitalism. The Western world represents the most successful societies this planet has ever seen. Success in any way you'd like to define it. It doesn't matter what economic ideology you embrace if you don't want to live in a mud hut you will require resource extraction.
*"They exist to extract resources as tokens of social standing"* Market economies exist to facilitate the transaction of goods and services. Period.
*"We really don't need more than 10% of what our market economies produce"* And what mechanism or arbiter should we utilize to determine what we "need"? You? Define "need". Do we need RUclips which you seemingly enjoy using"? Do we need the device you're using to post? Yet both enhance our lives. Market economies have natural mechanisms that tell us what we need. It's called profit. A profit can only be realized by successfully providing what humanity wants, needs and demands. Failure to achieve this and no profit is realized. Profits in fact, are in direct correlation to the success of the product or service and humanity's desire to obtain it. What better arbiter is there? Can you think of one?
*"I don't have an economic ideology. I don't have a solution to our problem. I am just very aware that it is a problem that is killing us."* Nothing is killing us. There are 8 billion people on the planet and growing. Millions continue to be lifted out of poverty. You're also confusing capitalism with consumption. How do we curtail consumption? ban it, regulate it, ration it, demonize it? No thanks, this is the path to authoritarianism.
Capitalism is always the solution. Where do you think new energy sources are going to come from? Somalia? Ghana? Lebanon? They will come from entrepreneurs and investors who have access to capital.
I enjoyed reading these perspectives because I share them both. I am absolutely antiauthoritarian. I believe in the right to fruits of ones own labor and remain unmolested by whoever calls themselve government or highwayman alike. Ive travel through Mises/Austrian Economics and Ancap, then on to syndicalism and market anarchy. The only way for the market to work correctly, i think, is to remove all protectionist amd regulatory rackets, let the crooks be culled, the fat be trimmed by force, and simultaneously restructure society around soilhealth/food/agrarianism. Event the cities should ve involved in soil and food production. Soil health = human health. We are soil; from it we sustain and to it we return.
@@jmc0369 Market economies are a grift. Their whole existence is to exponentially extract resources to produce tokens of social status (i.e. wealth) which are then hoarded to establish social hierarchies according to the primate social ordering instinct evolved in humans. They are technically unnecessary for human survival, though they do help in species large scale organization to the detriment of the individual. The crooks are never culled because they are integral to the markets themselves. When you remove the controls on markets you let them run amok and destroy everything in their path for the creation of useless wealth. (Yes, there is useful wealth, but we need much much less of it) We are in the situation we are in because of uncontrolled exponentially growing markets not because of regulations. You might find David Fleming's "Surviving the Future" which proposes Lean economies that are heavily restricted local economies and are the antithesis of the unrestricted global markets we have today. Yes, all our markets today are very much unregulated or under-regulated despite what the propaganda says. However, no one has ever successfully engineered an economy, so if we get there, it will likely be out of necessity rather than choice. Agrarianism is the opposite of Free-market-ism so I am not sure how you hop from one to the other.
Finally, yes, collapse is a process not an event! And, we've been in it for a small number of years now. It is also accelerating. Haven't read Bendell's new book yet, but it is now on my list.
What exactly is collapsing?
@@anthonymorris5084 The global economy for one. And while we never really reached global cooperation, what cooperation there is is eroding. Along with that, crop yields have been declining globally due to shifts in climate around the world.
@@anthonymorris5084 Somebodies head is buried deep in the sand. Far be it from me to wake you up. Go back to sleep.
All the data you need is easily available. It's not my job to convert you to reality. Sooner rather than later the evidence will be so obvious you will not be able to get around it, but you will try. Good luck with that.
@@anthonymorris5084 Thankfully, the Earth contains an infinite amount of fossil fuels, an infinite amount of forests to chop down, an infinite amount of fish in the ocean, etc., and we can add an infinite amount of carbon to the atmosphere without unwanted consequences, in order to maintain exponential economic growth forever. Otherwise, we might be in a bad way.
@@kevincrady2831 All of your posts contain hyperbole, sarcasm and alarmism. You are not examining any of this calmly and rationally. Everything that is alive is infinite. Fish reproduce and trees get replanted. Everything we dig up from the ground is finite. You're making the claim that we've reached this finite point and all is lost. It simply isn't true. The issue is over population not warming. Over population is the foundation of almost every single threat facing humanity.
Are you aware that the ratio between the amount of fossil fuels we consume compared to the number of known reserves has never been better? We are finding oil and gas everywhere. In the 1950's geologists proclaimed that the US had reached peak oil. In 1973 an energy "crisis" was proclaimed. Today the US is the largest producer of energy in the world. Many scientists stated that humanity would starve to death by the 1980's because there would be no way to feed the projected amount of people.
Data proves that humanity has never been safer, healthier or more prosperous than at any time in history, by any measurement you care to examine. It's a very large planet and humans are expert problem solvers. As you go through life, because I'm guessing you're quite young, you will be subjected to doomsday preachers continuously.
Lots of helpful insights and clarifications. Thanks, Guys. Really appreciated.
Wishing you the best with your efforts.
Great Job!
Great video, Dave.
Jem is a gem!
Hi Jed. Yes, Jem is a gem. You are so clever, Jed. This is fine.
@@dianewallace6064 Hi Diane, hope you are well!
@@dianewallace6064 what do you mean by "for now"? Are you anticipating a global collapse sometimes soon, with dramatic and action-packed consequences possibly involving the deaths of many people? Because if you are I LOVE that stuff its so exciting to listen to!!! PLEASE TELL ME I WANT TO HEAR THE JUICY DETAILS
That paper, Deep Adaptation, really woke me up to the greater urgency of climate change. Since then, like the author, I have found things are far, far worse than we had been lead to believe. We are in the midst of global collapse that is irreversible and terminal. We are on path to becoming essentially extinct and I doubt we make it past the turn of the century. Sounds impossible until you understand the nature of exponential functions and what we are dealing with. This feeling of things accelerating is real and a result of exponential acceleration of these global changes.
I suggest checking out Global Warming - Heating in the Pipeline by James Hansen. We've locked in 10 degrees centigrade of warming. There is no surviving that.
Hyperbolic nonsense. No scientist on the face of this Earth is predicting human extinction. Data proves that humanity has never been safer, healthier or more prosperous than at any time in history. How do you reconcile this?
Excellent discussion ..thankyou
Death denial is a survival tactic & is understandable. & this is why it's a big factor leading to inaction. We often put off things, thinking there will always be a future date. It is only when we come to life's end that we fret at wasting it away. Live life to it's fullest, keeping in mind that each day may be your last, & you will have few regrets.
Did not know that about trees and clouds. Very interesting!
Excellent! Much to chew on here.
I arrived at collapse as a process thinking myself a while back.... It won't be like the movies with a big bang and things end... It is going to take a number of decades but it will be punctuated with short sharp episodes ...
Data proves that humanity has never been safer, healthier or more prosperous than at any time in history, by any measurement you care to examine.
@@anthonymorris5084 you're such a moron, you're obviously white, rich and employed... The issues aren't, is there anything great happening, it's the fact that everything that is great about society is under direct threat by our cultural blind spots ya numpty .... Haven't you worked that out yet? People don't care because it is bad, people care because they don't want to lose the hard won progress that HAS been made....
@@anthonymorris5084 Of course, I see you live Steven Pinker and Co. While not denying that life improved a lot for a lot of people, please don't play down the negative effects of our systems.
@@JaseboMonkeyRex When you want to have an adult conversation get back to me.
@@adambazso9207 I have no idea who Steven Pinker even is. Nice attempt at invalidation though. This is what people resort to when they have no argument. The data is overwhelming. By any measurement you care to examine. Life is improving across the globe. Your argument suddenly states that things aren't perfect. No kidding.
Environmentalists myopically believe that the Earth is some kind of pristine place of harmony and purity. That humans, like a parasite are wrecking everything. The fact is the Earth is a hostile place that will kill you at any opportunity. Humans have made it more livable with each passing decade. Our "systems" ensure that life improves and that we become better stewards of the environment. Humans are problem solvers.
just discovering jem. so helpful.
Thank you for this piece and thanks to Jem for speaking truth.
We are already well beyond 2c. when calculating the more than 40 heat trapping gases, including water vapor. Next year's guaranteed ice free Arctic Ocean will send the latent heat, no longer melting ice, soaring, adding to the already unprecedented ENSO. Time to finish that bucket list, pronto!!!
i am an ecological activist and monetary reformer... I think we need radical socio-economic change... But I think overshoot is the main disaster. Still a climate skeptic, here... I think that climate and co2 distracts people frome the disaster of techno-industrial overshoot and how billionaires and millionaires are the main burden... as is, indeed, the system that forces us all in destructive lifestyles, as Jem says. Jem is one of the very intelligent people who understands the monetary issue. That is great. On climate, I think we could have long and interesting discussions. I don't like the word. I prefer overshoot or eco-system breakdown. As a former professional arborist... I think we need more trees. And a global, ineterst-free mutual credit system... and abolishing the stock-market and corporations.
Just get rid of the concept of money. You would be better off.
@@johnwozniak7160 agreed
The IPCC reports serve a useful purpose in documenting our failures for future survivors. Anyone that squeaks through the Fermi great filter will need a look back to know what not to do. The COPs are a collaborative space for people who want to make money off climate change and climate change awareness. So, yeah, Bendell has it right, the COPs are much worse than useless. The negotiations could be better done between diplomats, where the oil industry is left out of the discussion.
Your only mistake is assuming there will be "future survivors". Our situation is much, much more dire than you yet realize.
@@Mike80528 Technically, I was making a joke. A very dark joke, but that is my style of humor. Still, I would not underestimate human ingenuity when faced with extinction. This is not our first dance with death, and it is really hard to eliminate 8 billion of anything much less human beings. Also, I would not assume that what comes out the other side is recognizably human as real evolution occurs at the edge of extinction.
@@kimwelch4652 I get it, but your comment about ingenuity smacks a bit of hubris. You cannot actually think humanity has the ability to literally prop up life on a dying planet do you? Evolution is being well outpaced by change. There is no other side to this. Sorry, but I do not have magical thinking.
@@Mike80528 Okay, then we go extinct. How does that change the equation. Are you suggesting we just lay down and die? Generally, as a species, animals including humans struggle to avoid dying so pre- deciding on an existential case is mostly a waste of time. You do what you can and look for of opportunities for survival. That's what adaptation is all about. I do not advocate a rosy picture. Everything will not be fine. Our world is ending, but as Conan the Barbarian would say when stranded in the desert: you can't go back, you can't stay here, you can only go forward.
This thinking aligns well with the AI path we are now on. Perhaps the inevitable job/salary disruption will facilitate this shift.
Hell yes
Industrial capitalism is the ass-end of the Renaissance period.
The Renaissance was when most people did not have machinery but did have access to the tools of alchemy.
We could create a timeline for which alchemy is applied. How long does the average alchemical process last, the duration?
This will give us a rough view into how much longer society is likely to continue with it's "full" function.
When will this happen?
#AbolishPrivateBankingFractionalReserve
Are we really saying anything more than, 'Turn on, tune in, drop out' ?
What about reining in the sociopaths that demand the most of everything?
Money comes from private credit loans and government fiat. Private credit expansion has natural limits, whereas government fiat is unlimited in countries that control their currencies and have floating exchange rates
I have a program in mind. Day1 program. Where people make themselves famous. Gimlet acting guild supported in RUclips or some such thing. Eventually, a person with enough importance will be recognized. Through the global media movement of Day1. Region by region people will turn in their ideas on film via social media. They will be scrutinized by other members of the Day1 program. The winners will move up a slot. Until eventually the best pieces are so popular that the ideas in them are at least somewhat implemented in the real world.
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There's the popcorn I was looking for. It's a sign. We're toast.
And the earth populations have went from 1 billion to 8-fold billion in only 200 years…that is a major problem
It is just crazy! It is insane how no one talks about overpopulation!
Anyone that gets Overshoot is a doomer. Live life to the full folks
You got that right. The end of capitalism is the least of our worries. How about the end of all life on Earth!!!
@@roberthornack1692 life will very likely survive unless our panicked species and the power structures controlling it does something very drastic when it's clear our normality is ending like undertake large scale nuclear war.
Much of the life living now will struggle to adapt to survive, and may not, but in a few million years (the spans of time this planet actually operates at), life will be thriving again most likely with new creatures and organisms inhabiting ecological niches left empty due to the conceit and arrogance of one species of "intelligent" ape
Life isn’t going to end on earth. There could be a polar reversal killing many countries but life will find a way. The mini ice ages 400 years ago and 1000 years ago collapsed Europe but they reproduced and lived on.
The present generations are going to be remembered with distain by future generations who will refer to them as “the did nothings” or as the “did nothing generations”. They will be remembered for their self-centeredness, for their selfishness, for their shortsightedness and for their stupidity.
Probably. But, like the chap in the video said, we're not in control. We never were. The incomparable advantages offered by fossil fuels mean that any society that rejected their use would be absolutely clobbered by any society that went all-in. It was the same situation as with the development of agriculture, but on steroids and crack.
Any effort to "cut back" on fossil fuels just lowers their prices and creates a perverse incentive for others to use them. Then those people (or nations) gain the overwhelming competitive advantage cheap fossil fuels provide.
Fossil fuels are like some dark Lovecraftian magic left over from the Great Old Ones (well, "great" probably doesn't apply to the plants and bacteria that became fossil fuels...), lying in wait for millions of years for some clever critter to come along and fall into their trap. If it wasn't us, it would have been the corvids or the raccoons. 😉
@@kevincrady2831 raccoons possibly corvids no as they have already have wings. 😁
@@kevincrady2831 We can of course use the Carbon for an alternative and more beneficial purpose such as the construction of Clarke's space freight elevator.
@@kevincrady2831If you love, feed, care for, maintain, train, upgrade and bury something, such as an automobile or a computer, or any cherished materialistic treasure for that matter, is it alive? It’s certainly sucking the life out of its “owner”. Maybe these material creations are alive and smarter than we think? Maybe the AI brain wants us to create it's body, nervous system and it's "Internet of things" organs so that it can leave the nest and explore the cosmos?
@@kevincrady2831Humanity's problem is that its technological prowess has outstripped it's moral/ethical acumen! This places us squarely upon the broad path to self-annihilation. I believe that this is the Great Filter that explains Fermi's Paradox. Where are all the aliens? They destroyed themselves! The universe is likely filled with the ruins of such extinct civilizations. The purpose of our universe appears to be, either by chance or by design, to produce an ethical creature (like unto God?) and to destroy all other unethical species (through self-extinction). Morality thus determines the continued evolution or extinction of a civilized sentient species. No God or gods need be invoked to punish or save, we do this ourselves, by our own ethical decisions and actions. Thus the universe functions as a giant high-pass filter. That is why the reestablishment of Free Will through the reestablishment of individual control over our "means of subsistence" (our individual life-support systems) ought to be everyone's primary goal and the cornerstone of public policy reform. Our survival as individuals and as a species depends upon it and throwing off the yoke of dependence upon big business monopolies/big government "providers" (and controllers) and other elitist hierarchical totalitarian structures and reasserting our own responsibility to provide for and control ourselves and our local communities and ecosystems is the first step! Cheers from the USA!
“Lifeboats”? Mine is a 1983 Hunter 34 sailboat, being fixed, then outfitted similar to Neumeyer’s “Sailing the Farm” book. Climate Change, what I term Abrupt Biosphere Collapse, is happening half as fast, south of the Equator (Jan. 2023 paper), which gives us more time to adapt to the PETM conditions, coming within 200 years.
Doomers? Scientific realists, more accurately.
Good luck to you and yours. Hope you make it when the rest of us are gone.
I totally agree. My life boat is a 55 foot Herreshoff three master in New Zealand. The "global south" will be th best place in the future.... Sadly. I am from Europe, but look what is going on there....
@@gerdfehlbaum7059 I'm attempting to get through Neumyers "Sailing the Farm", which I downloaded in PDF form. Some good ideas for more sustainability, there.
@@brushstroke3733 If my cancer is too advanced for Newcastle vaccine to handle, I might be gone before the rest of you. Pheochromocytosas can be fought with the chicken vaccine for Newcastle Disease. And, now I'm fighting Parvovirus, too. I don't know how to give up, that's all.
Because of what I know about Climate Change, and Pheo releasing hormones that cause anxiety and panic attacks, they thought I was Bipolar 1, and locked me up in a phych ward, for over a week. Pheo is also causing Bradycardia and unstable blood pressure.
I need to prep the boat, but these other things keep getting in the way. Damn, at 66, and alone, my life is getting hard.
@@gerdfehlbaum7059 If Putin goes crazy, I am aware that few targets exist in South America. I'm eyeing the Rio Grande, in southern Argentina, myself. Fresh water, in a dry part of the country.
The last statement “not saying we’re going extinct but getting into a total mess” is confusing to his paper and stance. 😐
Khrishna Murti: "It is no sign of mental health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Earth will rebalance to a lower energy state (2nd Law of Thermodynamics).
rapid global cooling from volcanic eruptions will probably be our next great dilemma
Yes whatever we do in this system. Seems to be without perspective. The very richest rule the world maybe without knowing about the real dangers and technically it could be possible to organise drawdown at scale. That'll be most urgent
distortionatively warped synonym or meaning taht you refferanced as a synonym or used as in refferance as a synonym as a synoym in refferance to " moral psychology" was that evil was going to fall implcitly and implictly and that implicitly act as if impllicitly that is going to make ppl sad something that gives them a bad quality of life and is evil upon them anyway within living amongst in humanity / crony capitalism
Where can I get a doomster shirt?
It’s not just the capitalist system, it is largely the political and social systems which have largely fallen into servitude of capitalism, which, in effect has allowed capitalism to run wild. Look at the failure of the supply chain during Covid. That system was designed to maximize profit; it was not designed to be resilient to disruption. Most Western cultural systems are similarly designed and implemented. As these systems come under stress due to climate change (think of the 2024 hurricanes in the SE United States), they will be largely unresponsive and cascade into one another (expenditures funded by local municipalities, homeowner’s insurance, mortgage companies). Our largely corrupt political system will not be able to respond because those who control it have never thought in those ways. And even if they did the capitalist forces will not yield to adaptation. By the time most people get a grip on what is happening, it will be too late. Hoping or believing it will be otherwise is foolish. Just the momentum of where we are today means we have already passed the tipping point, and it will become more obvious every year.
Agreed. We need to prepare.
Disruption for renewable energy and milk protein produced biotechnically could save us if we had started earlier with reasonable politics
Collapse now, and avoid the rush.
Technology may have advanced enough to release civilization from the confines of the second law of thermodynamics.
These confines were imposed during Victorian England's scientific and religious cultural fascination with steam engines.
The second law is behind modern refgeration needing electrical energy to compress the refrigerent to force it to release as waste the heat that it has removed from the refrigerator's service interior in the cooling part of the refrigerent's circulation. There is also discarded heat from mechanical friction and electrical resistance. The total released and discarded heat minus the removed heat equal the electrical input but the attached conversion of electricity into heat is forced.
Refrigeration by the principle that energy is conserved should produce electricity instead of consuming it.
It makes more sense that refrigerators should yield electricity because energy is widely known to change form with no ultimate path of energy gain or loss being found. Therefore any form of fully recyclable energy can be cycled endlessly in any quantity.
In an extreme case senario, full heat recycling, all electric, very isolated underground, undersea, or space communities would be highly survivable with self sufficient EMP resistant LED light banks, automated vertical farms, thaw resistant frozen food storehouses, factories, dwellings, and self contained elevators and horizontal transports.
In a flourishing civillization senario, small self sufficient electric or cooling devices of many kinds and styles like lamps, smartphones, hotplates, water heaters, cooler chests, fans, radios, TVs, cameras, security devices, robot test equipment, scales, transaction terminals, wall clocks, open or ciosed for business luminus signs, power hand tools, ditch diggers, pumps, and personal transports, would be available for immediate use incrementally anywhere as people see fit.
Some equipment groups could be consolidated on local networks.
If a high majority thinks our civilization should geoengineer gigatons or
teratons of carbon dioxide out of our environment, instalations using devices that convert ambient heat into electricity can hypothetically be scaled up do it with a choice of comsequences including many beneficial ones.
Energy sensible refrigerators that absorb heat and yield electricity would complement computers as computing consumes electricity and yields heat. Computing would be free. Chips could have energy recycling built in.
A simple rectifier crystal can, iust short of a replicatable long term demonstration of a powerful prototype, almost certainly filter the random thermal motioren of electrons or discrete positiive charged voids called holes so the electric current flowing in one direction predominates. At low system voltage a filtrate of one polarity predominates only a little but there is always usable electrical power derived from the source, which is Johnson Nyquest thermal electrical noise. This net electrical filtrate can be aggregated in a group of separate diodes in consistent alignment parallel creating widely scalable electrical power. The maximum energy is converted from ambient heat to productive electricity when the electrical load is matched to the array impeadence.
Matched impeadence output (watts) is k (Boltźman's constant), one point three eight x 10^ minus 23, times T (temperature Kelvin) times bandwidth (0 Hz to a natural limit ~2 THz @ 290 K) times rectification halving and nanowatt power level rectification efficiency, times the number of diodes in the array.
For reference, there are a billion cells of 1000 square nanometer area each per square millimeter, 100 billion per square centimeter.
Order is imposed on the random thermal motion of electrons by the structual orderlyness of a diode array made of diodes made within a slab:
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All the P type semiconductor anodes abut a metal conductive plane deposited on the top face of the slab with nonrectifying joins; all the N type semiconductor cathodes abut the bottom face. As the polarity filtered electrical energy is exported, the amount of thermal energy in the group of diodes decreases. This group cooling will draw heat in from the surrounding ambient heat at a rate depending on the filtering rate and thermal resistance between the group and ambient gas, liquid, or solid warmer than absolute zero. There is a lot of ambient heat on our planet, more in equatorial dry desert summer days and less in polar desert winter nights.
Focusing on explaining the electronic behavior of one composition of simple diode, a near flawless crystal of silicon is modified by implanting a small amount of phosphorus (N type)on one side from a ohmic contact end to a junction where the additive is suddenly and completely changed to boron (P type) with minimal disturbance of the crystal lattice. The crystal then continues to another ohmic contact.
A region of high electrical resistance forms at the junction in this type of diode when the phosphorous near the ĵunction donates electrons that are free to move elsewhere while leaving phosphorus ions held in the crystal while the boron donates holes which are similalarly free to move. The two types of mobile charges mutually clear each other away near the junction leaving little electrical conductivity. An equlibrium width of this region is settled between the phosphorus, boron, electrons, and holes. Thermal noise is beyond steady state equlibrium. Thermal noise transients, where mobile electrons move from the phosphorus added side to the boron added side ride transient extra conductivity so the forward moving electrons are preferentally filtered into the external circuit. Mobile electrons are units of electric current. They lose their thermal energy of motion and gain electromotive force, another name for voltage, as they transition between the junction and the array electrical tap. Inside the diode, heat is absorbed: outside the diode, to exactly the same extent, an attached electrical circuit is energized. The voltage of a diode array is likely to be small so many similar arrays need to be put in series to build higher voltage.
Understanding diodes is one way to become convinced that Johnson Nyquest thermal electrical noise can be rectified and aggregated. Self assembling development teams may find many ways to accomplish this wide mission. Taxonomically there should be many ways ways to convert heat directly into electricity.
A practical device may use an array of Au needles in a SiO2 matrix abutting N type GaAs. These were made in the 1970s when registration technology was poor so it was easier to fabricate arrays and select one diode than just make one diode.
There are other plausible breeches of the second law of thermodynamics. Hopefully a lot of people will join in expanding the breech. Please share the successes or setbacks of your efforts.
These devices would probably become segmented commodities sold with minimal margin over supply cost. They would be manufactured by advanced automation that does not need financial incentive. Applicable best practices would be adopted. Business details would be open public knowledge. Associated people should move as negotiated and freely and honestly talk. Commerce would be a planetary scale unified conglomerate of diverse local cooperatives. There is no need of wealth extracting top commanders. We do not need often token philanthropy from the top if the wide majority of people can afford to be generous.
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Charles M Brown
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The New Age.
Where social media is used for communication and entertainment.
Around the world. Whomsoever should gain the popularity position will be the ones who are translated by the world. Everybody will watch them. Everybody will learn from them. We all stand to benefit.
Imperial maternity? The collapse and it's impossibility.
Horrible and we are told time after time that making cardboard boxes and drinking straws out of trees to replace plastic ones will save the planet.
whether he calls himself a doomer or a doomster I love these guys either way :D. God if ther was a convention of doomers I would hug each and every one of them :D :D
Wetter use of rainwater.
I'm currently working myself to death and exhausted, it's a privilege to worry about climate change.
But why are you working yourself to death? I guess it's either because you want to get rich, or you need to do it just to survive. If the former - then you do have time to worry about climate change, but you choose not to. If the latter, then I'd say that's because of capitalism - the engine of climate change. In that case, capitalism has you over a barrel, and there's nothing you can do. We're trying to build a commons economy, where people wouldn't have to work themselves to death just to survive. We're not asking people who are struggling to build the commons economy, just to join it as and when it can provide affordability and jobs.
I don't know what doomer groups Jem is studying, but the doomers I follow are not like that. They're more like Jem. People like Paul Erlich, Elliot Jacobson, Sam Mitchell.
We dont have industrial capitalism. We have financial capitalism. People need to organise and we need to know our Marxist-Leninism.
Yes, we need to know it, to make sure we never do it again. Bakunin was right. (agreed about financial capitalism)
This is basically; Doomsday talk.
I do believe that capitalism is the road to Doomsday.
And yet everywhere it's embraced you find the most successful societies on the planet. Go figure.
Socioecological interdependent nature is reality; our true and inescapable nature. Highest value to human beings must be human beings. Its greater supportive ecology must be the next highest value, in a value system. The only thing that works for us all is global human equity and a shared moderate sustainable level of prosperity. We should strive for the highest level of sustainable prosperity, but like work, the benefit must be equitable. We may be on track for a runaway scenario to be averted unless we all coordinate globally to mitigate climatological and ecological collapse. A paper just published in Nature quantifies why we see warming way faster than the models predicted and we may be in track for a catastrophic warming of some 14C by 2100. Frightening.
Side note: All automation must be in public hands, else it benefits a Few at a cost to Many....
Build the Commons. Otherwise make money expire. Dewaste industrial production.
Click here on the R and do some objective research.
Bendell has grown on me. Found him rather wishy washy and a little too 'new-agey' to begin with. He's not exactly like Roger Hallam in his stridency. But he is very smart and knowledgeable, and his more measured and thoughtful manner is certainly preferable to the arrogant, know-it-all hyperbole of people such as Guy McPherson.
*Promosm*
Get To it UK, you have to grow 70% of your food on your islands.. hope you have enough diesel ..
you actually have to qualify or clairify that you'd rather have humanity live than for humanty to di undr capitalism as if there is no othr option or alterative or youd rather or like have your rather capitalism d*e alongside humanity and have it be forced to and have humanity be dragged down with it by climate catastrophe than have it liver in another stat that it is th only or that if not it is not only stat concentration of pwer regression self destruction amongst humanity with most abject bottom of barrel social disfunctin and you rather have humanity be subject to that and have that catastrohphe and hmanity be subject to it rather than it die youd rather humnanity d*es along with it so you've rather have humanity basically be no havb capio die alongside hiumanity or wher to wher humanity is forced to go down with it rather than to give bilionaires hand outs of an overarching regressive means of inequuivelance be and as means of control and be subject if capi has to di than humanity has to di youd rather humanity di alongside and be forced to di with capi than for capi to die and not take the species with it humanioty be forced to die along side it rather than it perishing and humanity persisingyouve rather have it there or have it die so basically if theres no capitalism from its deficiency its on a suicide going to take everyone out every each lifeform rather than face a reality whrere it is that renders it as beng redundant deficient single most deficent specimine of anything in all of the history of life and existance itself youd rather so it exists in a form time where lifeforms around it it subjugates that are subject to it and wher it is rendered deficent amongst them adn them amongst this thing is rendered of complete disfunction youd rather have it not exist than for anything else to exist along side or without it so if it dies we all have to die for to not face tangible accountability for its deficency amongst life itself interms of losing power not just in rational or logical ralm
Oil maybe bad. But if you’re against oil you must teach the truth. The U.S. declared bankruptcy in 1971. The U.S. only retained power globally cause oil was sold in dollars.
Let’s abandon oil. But then let’s actually grow a pair and send the military out of Saudi Arabia and abandon the military bases in foreign countries. Do you know how polluting and dirty it is for the U.S. to run nato??? It’s fine for the U.S. to abandon oil, but for the love of good please give up global power and reduce consumption and war. That means if Russia wants Ukraine let Russia have Ukraine. End of story. Pollution wise the U.S. needs to stop being involved in foreign wars cause wars directly causes pollution and wastes tons of oil.
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Civilisation collapse
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You and all of us - are angry because of our stupidity. Let's talk😊
Who cares about the mechanistic symptoms?
Someone get me a beer. 🍺🍻🕕