Two Handed bowling technique: Spare shooting.
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
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It is time for part 5 of the keys to the two-handed game series where we are going to be discussing that all-important spare game! I am definitely on team spares.
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PINS: (07) (08) (09) (10)
(04) (05) (06)
(02) (03)
(01)
AIM(Right-handed perspective): Note "B" is board and I am using 2 position to create a straight line.
Center:
Slide(B-26) Target( B-20 thru 4th-Arrow) = 1,5 Pins
Left Side:
Slide(B-32) Target( B-26 thru 5th-Arrow) = 2,8 Pins
Slide(B-28) Target( B-24 thru 5th-Arrow) = 4 Pin
Slide(B-24) Target( B-22 thru 5th-Arrow) = 7 Pin
Right Side:
Slide(B-21) Target( B-14 thru 3rd-Arrow) = 3,9 Pins
Slide(B-24) Target( B-17 thru 3rd-Arrow) = 6 Pin
Slide(B-27) Target( B-20 thru 3rd-Arrow) = 10 Pin
Note** All spares are thrown straight and my walk path deviates very little--you must adjust for your drift.
Also, I tend to roll my ball with little to no axis tilt--straight up the back of the ball.
These videos are by FAR the most in-depth substantive two-handed info on the internet.
Thank you for the compliment! It means a lot to me!
These videos are by far the most informative two-handed tutorials on YT. Just started bowling and decided on a two-hander because of a weak wrist and am having a blast. Your videos have helped me a ton and I keep coming back to them. Thanks for the great content :)
Your welcome!
I'm glad they are helping.
Thank you for the kind words!
Your videos are amazing!! I am considering going from one handed to two handed this summer, but these single pin spares are the reason I am a 180 avg bowler instead of 200 avg bowler. I cant wait to try this method.
Thank you!
Work hard and you can make the switch no problem!
Awesome video! This type of info is that 2 handers need when they are starting!
Thank you!
Wow! You’re a great teacher, thank you for the lesson!
My pleasure!
I’ll have to try this out this week, it’s my biggest weakness
Remember, practice those spares once you get your alignments figured out. Let me know how it goes!
Just started my 2handed bowling, thanks for the 5 parts, will be incorporating them for sure, especially the speed tips
Welcome to the 2-handed world, I am glad to help! Let me know how things go for you.
Thanks for watching!
Not much info like this out there for two handers. Thank you!
Your welcome!
Thanks so much for this video. I've seen several different ones, but yours really is going to help me!!
Your welcome and thank you for the kind words.
I appreciate your videos.
Thanks! I appreciate the support!
You can also use spread pinky and close index release.
Yes you can, this is something I covered in my first video in this series about your non-ball side hand.
Great vids! Watching and digesting all of them to improve my game. Thanks for putting them up!
On the topic of spare-shooting, why do pros avoid using their typical strike shot for spares? For example, as a right hander, it seems a lot easier to use a pocket strike shot to shoot pins 1 and 3. For 2, 4, and 7, I move the appropriate number of boards right and then shoot down the same strike shot. I've found hitting left side pins to be pretty consistent this way.
Thank you for the compliment!
On the spare shooting. The reason we do this is to take the lane completely out of play to give us a higher chance of success in picking these up. When you hook at a spare, your involving more variables that could reduce your chances.
With that said, there are some pros to choose to hook at their opposite side spares. In the end, it comes down to being consistent. If you can hook at your opposite side spares and consistently make them on sport conditions, there is no reason to change.
@@BigSkyBowler Thanks for the insight! I can't remember seeing any pro hook into their opposite side spares - everyone seems to go straight at it. But I do find consistent straight shots challenging so I try to minimize that risk (for me) by hooking in. That said, for same-side spares, I'm definitely working on using your method of maintaining the same target and shifting the feet as needed.
Cheers again!
I didnt know at least half of this info. Where do they even teach this stuff? I cant wait to try this this weekend!
Glad you enjoyed the content! Let me know how it goes for you!
Once you get your alignments figured out, practice hard!
For me since I’m left handed, it is easier to hook at a 10 pin for me, but when it comes to bowling 2 handed aiming for a 7 pin, is not my best bet
On a house shot where there is defined friction - not an issue. Near side corners are always hard. Try rolling it as straight as possible. You can even go to throwing with your thumb in if your able to flatten your wrist enough.
I do that for my near side spares (3, 6, 9, 10 etc... and all other single pins).
@@BigSkyBowler I don’t have a thumb hole
@@EMP_Noob could always grab a house ball. As long as all the holes are in use it's legal.
My spare ball has a thumb hole.
@@BigSkyBowler oh alr, thanks for the tips!
Hey man!!! Really liking your content. Thank you.
I’m a new two handed bowler. Do you have any ball recommendations.
Thank you!
Anything that gives you control over the pocket.
Two really good balls from Swag I would recommend: Fantasy Daze and the Buzzer Beater.
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Thanks for watching!
Great info, I'm definitely going to try this out. I happen to live 3 hours from your lanes, and I travel to Billings for work and occasional big grocery trips to Costco. Do you offer lessons or anything of that nature? Might have to stop in some time haha
Awesome to have a subscriber so close by! Lete know how it goes! Thank you for watching!
Yes, I do offer lessons. Reach out to me on Facebook facebook.com/JeremiahRooneyBowling if you would like details.
@@BigSkyBowler this information definitely helped me a lot. I also noticed that you start closer to the foul line, and I tried that too. I've struggled coming into a slide at the foul line, and now I know it's because I was starting too far away. Just getting closer naturally smoothed out my approach and naturally produced a slide. I also tried setting the ball as you do, referencing my guide hand. After applying just 2 of your videos to my game, I bowled my new high score of 265. I've been bowling for 1.5 years and that was the biggest increase in performance I've had the whole time. Mighty fine job with this RUclips channel!
On your spare shooting system picture that you showed in the video. It says that you stand on board 17 when you're spareing the 7 pin. Are you standing on the 17 board with your left foot or right foot?
As a right hander, I use my left toe to set my position on the approach.
I used to hit my 10 pin spares so easily but lately I’ve lost touch of hitting the 10 pin spares
I've been there before. Until I really started focusing on practicing my spares I continued to have issues.
My question is because you are using grips and drilling the fingers 3 inches deep what are the side pitches to keep the 31/32 holes from hitting each other 3 inches in the ball
My ring finger pitches 1/4 right and 5/8 reverse. My middle finger pitches 3/4 left and 1/4 forward.
Great vid...thank you. Could you please speak to the issue of facing the spare and aligning the bowler's entiore body (feet, hips, torso, shoulders) toward the spare target line, versus the technique of "walking straight, but angling your upper body toward the spare"? Some coaches argue that facing the spare target line causes the bowler to walk into the way of that line, and that's why they recommend walking straight and only angling the upper body. Other coaches argue that this will twist the bowler's body like a pretzel and therefore recommend that the bowler completely align their body toward the spare. What is your take on this?
My take is you should always walk in the direction that you intend your ball to go because it allows for more consistency with your launch angle.
Walking straight and attempting to twist your body to face the proper direction is only adding more variables to a successful shot. What if your twisted too much or not enough?
@@BigSkyBowler That's exactly what's always puzzled me and why despite this advice coming from well-known and respected coaches, who speak about walking almost on the sides of your feet (like horses doing "dressage" at a competition), I've never been successful doing so.
Would you agree, however, that no matter what arrow the bowler uses and looks at for spare shooting with a "spare ball", whether center arrow or third arrow on either side, that it takes trial and error to establish where to stand for the 7 and 10, and only once that's been done, is it relatively easy to establish where to stand for the other spares, moving roughly 3.5 boards for each zone?
@@joehoenig7596 yes I would agree.
Since making this video, my own spare shooting has mutated. I now shoot spares one handed because I'm able to throw faster and reduce my rev rate to almost nothing. My targeting has changed a bit but I still use the same target for all my single pins and adjust my feet.
@@BigSkyBowler Hey, it works fine for Osku, so....🤷♂️
@@joehoenig7596 my thoughts exactly!
Hi - thanks for video!! It’s definitely my weak point. One suggestion if I may…background audio was quite loud, so it drowned out your voice.
Yeah unfortunately sometimes I cannot avoid that, especially when a bunch of open bowlers show up.
I have a wireless mic, but I need a better camera.
Good that you probably did not understand what Koivuniemi was saying... he was not happy.
I can imagine how unhappy he was!
I slowed the vid down to see the uncup release it appears your hand is going counter clockwise around the ball. So is the spin created by the uncup or the rotation of the wrist?
Revolutions are created by the uncupping of the wrist. Spin is created by the rotation of the wrist.
Would you suggest aiming at the arrows or at the dots when you play bowling?
I recommend aiming where you are most comfortable and consistent. With that said, having two points of reference for aiming instead of one is best. Connecting a line between two points is easiest than with one point.
Keep in mind, the closer your target is to the foul line, the earlier your ball is laid on the lane which will make it hook earlier. The farther you target from the foul line, the later its laid down on the lane.
@@BigSkyBowler Okay, how do you do when you're playing? Like where do you aim and make a line?🙂
@@wgmemes752 it's all based on where you are trying to get the ball at the end of the lane.
For example: if I was trying to hit the 10 pin from where I'm standing on the approach, I would start by picking my start position on the approach, then looking at the 10 pin as a reference. I then draw an imaginary line from that pin through the arrows to where I'm standing. This would give you a line to try and hit with your ball and several different spots to hot at the end of the lane, the arrows, the dots after the foul line and even the dots at the foul line.
@@BigSkyBowler Okay thank you so much for answering my questions, I really like your videos🙂
Your welcome!
Thank you!
I have really struggled with 10 pin spares as a 2 hander who hasn't been able to get a plastic ball yet. Is it a bad idea to really on a backup ball for 10 pins? When I throw a backup ball, I have my highest 10 pin spare rate but I know it's frowned upon.
The only reason I do not recommend relying on a backup ball for a 10 pin is because the ball will hook the opposite direction and go straight into the gutter if you miss a little bit right.
The other problem is, there is potential for injury due to the wrist traveling in an unnatural direction.
With that said, if you can learn to tame your backup release a bit, you should end up with a very decent forward roll.
In the end, who cares whether other bowlers frown upon your technique... if it works for you, then it works. Doesn't matter if it's a backup ball, two handed ball, or a ball thrown between the legs. 😀
@@BigSkyBowler Thanks for the advice. I will definitely try to learn to get it the right way when I can get my own plastic ball. I don't seem to have any issues with my wrist because I kinda just let the ball roll off my hand. Thank you for your videos as well, I have been watching them a lot lately as I try to correct my form.
You're video about the non ball side hand helped me shoot my new personal best yesterday. You pointed out something about different pro bowlers' backswings that helped me figure out I naturally have a straighter backswing. I've started to embrace that and use your left hand positioning tips, and I'm doing great!
I appreciate your content. Im thinking about switching to two hand bowling and your videos have been amazing! I was wondering what you thought about using a one hander technique for spare balls and two hander for strikes. Considering you'd use two different balls anyway. Ive already developed my spare game as a one hander so just figured why not use both.
Go for it! I do the exact same thing. My spare percentage was pretty terrible with two hands.
@@BigSkyBowler Awesome, sorry just saw this! Thank you very much im trying it out! Your content is fantastic and really helping me, thank you!
@@LawReadyForThis your welcome and thank you for the compliment!