@@benjaminmcneil574 But we'll never see that, because they off'd him instead of making him a threat for all of team RWBY, more specifically Weiss (who should've been on Adam's hitlist to begin with) and went with the route of making him a cheesy abusive ex boyfriend.
@@oneangryboi408 Which was a good choice cause the fact that he died at the sametime the white fang storyline ended is a pretty good symbolic and it also allows Bale's character to move on.. Also i think what Weiss would of thought would have been ( well what else is new? ...) xD
@@tunderdiamant8651 I mean...the White Fang ended when Adam go kill his own men. This is when Adam doesn't represent anything but his own. In a sense, he is neither a human nor faunus, and became a monster, or should I say, a beast of his own.
@@tunderdiamant8651 There was a storyline?! Where? All they were was goons who was thrown around just for the sake of fighting *something* that we were never even shown besides being a feel good violence for RWBY to mess with. What faunus discrimination have we seen and not told about throughout the volumes besides a sign rejecting faunus from entering a building, bullying (that wasn't just for faunus but humans too), and some name callings? The White Fang could've been a morally grey area that would've allowed the viewers to question things in a good way. You don't need to make things black and white. They didn't need to make Adam downright evil just for the sake of...a relationship? Adam was shown to not want any tidings with humans and was *threaten* to even join up with humans. We already were shown that the earlier, peaceful version of the White Fang was a failure because of peace, so it would be interesting to see the more bloodthirsty version in practice that shown effective methods, yet not completely working because fear lasts only so long. The White Fang could've ended up with an endgame of a balance of these methods of both sides of the conflict on the faunus discrimination. They became aggressive for a reason, and Adam's brand was a solid proof of that if he didn't end up a shitty ex bf that every other cartoon show does these days. I don't know where you got that this route was a 'good choice', but if you were fine with instead for a group that had a symbolic, and potential-leading storyline that includes a character with potential as well to just end up being a character with nothing else to go for but a spoiled rotten black cat, then I fear for you.
As I do agree with Adam’s action that saved Blake’s Father, it seemed to be catalyst that sent him down his downward sprial. The spiral that Blake recognized was becoming more frequent and deadly, which why she left.
Even then he easily could've shot the handle of his sword into the guys head, as we see later when he's about to execute that one guy on the ground he always killed for fun.
@@MardonNaLou The show doesn't though. The show does nothing to indicate that anyone is in any danger in that fight. No one watching that scene was thinking "Wow Blake's dad might be in a lot of trouble here." The scene just comes off as Adam going fucking ham on dude because he was too far away, and the show lazily trying to justify it afterward.
I think my least favorite thing about Adam is that he’s the only Faunus character that’s shown to be actively fighting against a system that has discriminated him and his race since the dawn of man…and the show writes him more as a crazy ex boyfriend for some reason.
He's both, that's the thing. I agree that the writers did Adam dirty with his story and how they followed up with it. He started off great; he really believed in his cause and used his power to fight for it, but he started going down the wrong path and was using only violence and fear in the end. I think they wanted to play it as him going mad with power, and after being humiliated at Haven by the new White Fang and losing what weak trust he had in his followers (he put them under him by fear and lies), he had nothing else to focus on except for his obession over Blake, which led him to his death. I don't believe he's the only Faunus who was actively going against the system put over him though, Blake started to after Volume 4, as did Ilia and the new White Fang ofc. Overall though they really messed up whatever message they were trying to tell with the Faunus, and it reflects off of Adam's character and him being a villain in the end, that soured his story for me for sure.
He started as the fight er for his race...... Sadly.... I dont know why they completly thrown away this Character and let his Story end as the creepy stalker ex boy Friend
@@We3dCraftLP Probably because they couldn't think of a way to make him a half decent character... despite having all of the pieces in front of them. He could have joined Salem officially, made some other big attack, snuck into Atlas, maybe fight Cinder for using him, perhaps at some pivotable moment could take a fatal attack for Blake.... Something and anything than that pitiful end that they gave him.
It’s an unpopular opinion, but Adam was one of my favourites. Powerful semblance and weapon, sad backstory, amazing fighting and skill. I feel like he could of either had a great character development and arc. Or he could have become a much worse threat to Team RWBY. I honestly wish he never died.
@@MegumiKeehl fr and the thing that made me more upset was he didnt even care about blake in the first seasons when he had small appearances. Then all of a sudden he was obsessed with blake. He was honestly so misused
@@Kyl0_ben eh Monty had a hand in volume 3 and they were going off his chicken scratch. I think they could’ve done many thing better with him, but based upon what Blake said about him in volume 2 goes hand in hand with a narcissistic abuser. They just struggled with the symptoms then on.
That's not an Opinion. He has obejectly much more Potential than that waste & troll we got at the end. He should have a higher goal, and should be much more OP to see a REAL Threat who everyone fears. Most of the Writers don't see their own giving Potential, cause the Majority of People aren't in that clarity state for themselfes. Only a few Individuals can see through that.
I was gonna say, seeing Blake with her volume 1 style with the newer animation enhancement is incredible. I kinda wanna see them remake the first volume and touch up some of the meh scenes. Like cinder jumping on the roofs and the whole gang running through that field after the nevermore
No, he wasn't born a monster, but its not about what happens to you, its how you decide to let it effect you. He COULD have used his pain to try and change humanity so it sees faunus better, being a stronger voice than Ghira, but instead he chose to turn his pain into a weapon aimed at the world, first at humanity, then anyone who crosses him. Its a truly sad fate
@@Adam-yq9xe I think that they did actually go in that direction - victims of abuse often become abusers themselves, and his wanting to control Blake (and the other faunus) fits well with that, especially considering how little control he had over his own life as a faunus working for the SDC. In any case, I believe CRWBY know Monty's intentions way better than us, and Adam was set up as a person ready to take innocent lives as early as the Black trailer.
@@miapopova1030 dude no they didn't. They went head long into being an abusive boyfriend. Former animator have gone on record saying they were taking the show in directions Monty didnt intend and we know for a fact that Adam was involved in those changes since his fight in the last volume was meant for volume 3
"Wasn't he that extremist villain with a cause?" "Nah he's the psycho ex bf" "Oh, what happened to him again?" "His character was slain during the ship wars, remember?" "It's hard to remember psycho exes. They're hardly villains with a cause. Now that guy from the Black trailer, I'm interested..."
3:32 Did they reanimate Blake without a bellybutton just for this scene to reference that she didn't have one in Volume 1-3 in that outfit😂😂 Well done CREWBY
You know, at the beginning of the fight, the White Fang aren’t attacking, they are just ducking for cover while those other people are shooting at them without any provocation, and Adam attacks them when they shoot their leader. And I know Adam was kind of a bad guy and he killed they guy with the pistol, but he did fight back in self defense.
Exactly, he only killed the last guy because he literally saw no other option in that moment And you can even see him regretting it before Sienna praised him
That’s understandable, but yet we all know a bigot won’t see it that way. A bigot will do anything to to get a minority to lash out, because if a minority lashes out that’s a chance for a bigot to paint them as evil. To defeat something like racism, you have to have the control to not lash out, even when faced with violence like that. Adam could’ve easily focused on combatting their gunfire without harming any of them, which in turn would keep all of the white fang members safe whilst not desecrating their goals.
Adam really could have been a Magneto/Killmonger for the faunus and I wish they utilized him better. Hate me if you want, but I liked Adam, and it saddens me how it all played out.
Yeah, even my brother who never watched RWBY at all instantly was drawn to Adam for how cool he was and after watching a video about him, but to his and my disappointment, he was completely wasted, the show never explained his backstory at all. EXCEPT that in amity arena, it has a tiny bit of info on his past, as it turns out, before ever being involved with the white fang, he used to work at the dust mines, as a slave most likely and having hopes and dreams about leaving and finding a purpose, but when he got the brand on his eye, to him it was over, the brand was a cold and brutal reminder that those hopes and dreams were nothing more but that, dreams and fantasies, since not only he’s a Faunus but also he was scarred and in a mess, the only thing that gave him a purpose was the white fang and blake, but both of those things either screwed him over or turned their back on him . The white fang in my opinion after reading that mini paragraph looked like it was giving him mixed signals at first, ghira pretty much shunned him for killing while Sienna was giving him praise , that’s already a problem even for Adam who’s probably more emotionally unstable than anyone else in the faction due to everything he probably went through in the mines, and over time, the faction became more violent and Adam became violent as well, maybe as a way to vent out the pent up anger and trauma on to the race that caused all of it, and for blake, she was the only ray of light he had, she was the beauty in his story, which makes sense given that’s the story that they’re based on, but as Adam became more violent and more cold blooded, blake just decided to leave on a mission. And yeah I know about the whole “she was abused” deal but in all honesty, it never looked or even sounded like he was abusing her, in all honesty I think he was just emotionally manipulating her. And the show never showed anything about that, while he did slap her and stab her in the gut, at the time, they were enemies who were once allies and a couple, not only that, but also you have to remember that blake pretty much abandoned him so that was also a huge motivator.
@@santiagogarcia1606 I think Adam was something similar to what the beast would have ended up like if beauty hadn't fallen in love with him and had abandoned him when she had the chance. Of course I honestly think Adam deserved better, but I also think it would have been interesting to see that twist on the beauty and the beast. There were two cards that could have been played but one was discarded and the other wasn't played all that well, which resulted in the mess that was Adam's ending. And although Adam was made to be the villain he was a victim himself since no one really tried to help him, actually no one even realized how much he was being torn apart by everything, it would have been a nice twist to see his side of the story if he was meant to have a tragic ending from the start.
I love Wilt and Blush so much, its such a good weapon, and also combined with Adam's semblance it's so much better. Edit: Also his fighting style is amazing as well.
@@HenryGray-sy4puI think it was interesting conceptually but it's executed pretty poorly. A cival rights group being pushed to insanity because of everything they go through is an interesting concept but that concept doesn't really work if the oppression is never shown and most members are portrayed as mindless grunts.
Dylan Biggs Even though it’s pretty much useless now lol Idek why they made a short. Only thing that matters now, is how, where, and when he got the SDC brand burned onto is fuckin’ eyeball
I mean you know his personnality and a little of his backstory tho ... If you don't then you just didn't pay attentionto the show ... We literally know more of Adam then we know of Cinder xD
@@LiterallySpikeSpiegel hey remember Adam and how everyone started hating him after v5? Well we have more Adam content for you so u can start reconsidering your thoughts we won't kill him right after or anything Yang: we did what we had to do BULLSHIT
@@lorddarthfire1560 *also barely features Adam or shows anything about him until the last 3 episodes where its mostly just fighting* Yuuuuuup, more Adam content for you peeps!
@@tyrongkojy The guy was running and shooting towards the leader of the white fang which he almost killed so I don't think he have a enough time to knock him out.
tyrongkojy The guy was running up to Ghira with a gun in his hand ready to shoot, I’m sorry but in this instance he had to act fast no matter what, and since guy was seemingly a violent racist who just wanted to kill them for being Faunus, him giving him a taste of his Semblance is both reasonable and justified. So even if he DID chose the lethal approach he’s still in the right since when you got people who are trying to kill you sadly there’s times where you have to put them down, one way or the other, and since he was trying to kill Ghira, the leader of a group trying to help an oppressed group of people, he had to do that now, lest they lose an important leader who is helping their people, in comparison to the consequences of him dying and killing a violent racist who chose to start this whole mess to begin with, it’s clear what needed to be done. And let’s please stop acting as if killing someone who is trying to murder people in self defense somehow makes you morally equivalent to them, it doesn’t. And it’s not like he even tortured him or even made him suffer, he killed him quickly.
Being a creepy stalker bf was literally the least interesting direction they could have taken Adam, and it ultimately eclipsed everything else about him... :/
Should have worked the terminator angle just because of how hutch hatred he has. Like he has obsessively done nothing but train to his limits then past them fuelled by his hatred and combined with his OP semblance he's a monster in combat almost no one but a maiden can bring down. When he doing cool OP stuff when was the memorable thing about him so they should have sold him purely in that light. It's an incredibly easy character to write and fits well with the strength of RWBY that's cool spectacle fighting.
Personally I would have liked to see what his and Weiss's interactions would have been like, since she's the ex-heiress to the SDC, after all. She should be the one he's after, not Blake. Yes, Blake's the princess of Menagerie, but other than that, there's not much more that would make her important enough to Adam to chase after her besides the fact that she broke up with him. It would have been a much more interesting plot line to see how the leader of a rebellion and the girl born into luxury would have interacted than to watch a guy high on power chase after an ex who left him during a mission. Since Weiss was supposed to inherit the SDC, it would have made sense for Adam to focus more on her than Blake. Her father is the one that allowed poor treatment of the Faunus in his mines. Even though Weiss never knew about it, it would have fit so much better for Adam to be chasing after her. It would have been awesome to see what Adam was capable of doing all the way up to V8 if he hadn't died so early on and paid more attention to the Schnee family. Simply making him a stalker ex-boyfriend screwed up the entire story and even threw a wrench in some of the White Fang's missions (Ex. the Haven Academy fight).
@@lemonorca Agreed; Adam fighting Blake because she's defending Weiss (who represents everything the White Fang is supposed to be against) and he can't understand why has more pathos in it than what we got, what was essentially just (insert Star Wars Traitor meme here).
I think they should release a second, "Adam Short," showing his life leading up to the White Fang. What was he like as a kid? Who terrorized him? Who branded his eye and why?
I think he has some history with the Schnee Corporation, who he probably has the most hate towards But never see him and Weiss or anyone from the family cross paths
@@samster101229 I've come to a similar conclusion when he takes off his mask and we see the Schnee Dust Company's initials. It must've been meant to mark new boxes and crates before they're shipped off.
The brand on his eye is enough to infer it. Slaves were often branded IRL, that combined with the knowledge that the SDC has "questionable" business practices is more than enough. Probably got branded as a kid for acting up. I quite like the fact that it's left up to audience interpretation, but we're given the pieces to connect the dots. Paints a not-so-pretty picture of what life was like for Adam before he really let his spite take over.
Honestly I wished Sienna got proper characterization and build up. She could’ve had a bigger impact really testing Adam and her death could’ve had him contemplate on whether he’s right or not.
I thought so too, but I'm sorry, Blake and Yang went Julius Ceasar on that motherfucker lol It'd have to be the work of the almighty plot armor for him to be alive after that. ~Yuuki
@@truecrosscosplay841 Caesar got stabbed like 30 some times tho. I refuse to believe that a character as cool as Adam was died simply from two stupid stab wounds, and his last word literally being "oh." Dude totally could have washed up on the shore of the river somewhere. No body, no guaranteed death. RT has obviously animated other scenes out of order in the timeline. They could have already animated the scene with him stumbling at the end way before they knew exactly how he would die. Like they could have simply planned to make it look like he died (volume 6) but have the tease scene with him coming back at the end of his character short (this vid, pre vol 6). I feel that he has potential to be "redeemed" in several ways. But my idea is this. A rogue Adam that's realised the fight with Blake is pointless for starters. He still despises her of course, but he's not so obsessed. I'm not sure exactly but like a personal revenge manhunt for all those who've wronged him. Sorta like an anti hero, against Hazel, and the rest of Salem's team, even the SDC. Against the New white fang, and the shows good guys. The rogue assassin concept if you will. He sides with no one, against the world. I think THAT would be badass
Adam was so incredibly good until Volume 5. He had a story and a character that could be molded into one of the most interesting ones in the show. Akin to Anakin Skywalker, you could show his hate and anger lead him to suffer, but somehow he redeems himself. But nah, Adam is sleeping with the fishes...
Honestly, I wish they hadn't gone the route of 'Blake's abusive ex who didn't really believe in the cause he fought for, only using it to kill humans.' It would have been so much more interesting if he had been, say, Blake's mentor and that, while he went to extremes, he truly believed in the cause of equality for Faunus. Only for that to go downhill for him when Cinder showed up to enlist him in the attack on Beacon.
@@SchwartzBruder30 that was montys original design but..progressive writing and a bunch of other horse shit ensued and my character was drowned in shit
Adam Taurus6659 you don’t know what montys original vision was so shutup first of all and second the creators who were actually close friends with the dude knew what he wanted better than anyone so you got what you got dumbass
@@maiseree1511 wait... What? Are you referring to coco and velvet? Cause I'm pretty sure yang and blake got basically forced together by the community instead of being the original way things were supposed to go between them
@@Iridescent_Astraea No, it was also how Blake described him in season 2... She literally called him, "my mentor". If you know how to write stories and have been in the fandom since the beginning, you can very easily see that RT has been steadily letting the fandom write the future of the RWBY-verse more and more... Changing the direction of the story and characters based on whatever the most popular theories or fan-fictions are. Adam started as a mentor and accomplice to Blake, but the fandom shipped them so hard that RT changed the direction of his character and his and Blake's story to appease their fantasies.
@@brandonturner5058 Yea, they had already rewritten him by that point. This is the "writing team" that used the fandom's nicknames for the RWBY team ships as names for combo moves (bumblebee, freezer burn, etc) *in season 2,* even at that stage they were being influenced by the fandoms whims.
Why?! What has he ever done that sets him up as anything other than a narcissistic, abusive, terrorist leader? Literally nothing ever. He was ALWAYS this.
Why didn't Adam ever interact with Weiss? Why wasn't his main goal to ever kidnap her or kill her? That would have communicated him as a threat without reducing him to an incel.
@wiltandblush First off, don't try to make her out to be the bad guy when he's literally shown guilt tripping her for bringing up how many "accidents" occur on his missions. And in the same conversation, he uses that guilt. Along with her estranged relationship with her parents in order to manipulate her into turning, a blind eye towards his actions. And let's not forget how he tricked her into thinking he was some kind of freedom fighter when in reality, he's just some a bitter asshole using the WF in order to hurt humans.
I like his Design, his weapon. All in all, he looks like a cool character. But the storytelling... My god, it's atrocious. So many things are getting sidelined and undervalued. Adam is one of those things. His intro was good. My first impressions were "cool, A freedom fighter/extremist." It reminds me of the terrorist group avalanche in FF7 And Adam was like... A calmer version of Barret cause he was obviously the leader. Back then, we assumed Adam was the leader because there were no other characters to speak of. No sienna, no ghira. Just Adam and his mad crusade against humanity. This was good. It was a topic for controversy. Was he in the right or was he just another irredeemable bad guy? If RWBY had shown how far Faunus discrimination hurts the faunus then it would have been a truly compelling plot. All we got was blake talking about it. Signs that kept faunus from entering a bar. Bullying and that applies to humans too. And then you find out that Blake is literally the princess of Menagerie. Menagerie is another problem... It doesn't look like its crowded... Heck if it was crowded then nobody would even consent to Ghira, and by proxy his family, owning a mansion. Menagerie looks like paradise. Etf she talking about? Discrimination? Flee to fucking menagerie and never leave. So many things are wrong with this series.... Ptsd, racism, logic, and the incessant need to explain.... Don't explain the fucking magic.... Its like you don't have an idea what to write and so, give the solutions to mysteries that clouded us in the 1st 3 volumes. That's the wrong fucking move holy shit.
The preaching never stops. But Adam is the kind of person who brings about changes. The people talking peace and everything follows later to make a morally justified stand.
Tbf, did he have much of a character to begin with? He literally only had about 2 to 3 minor scenes before he was shown to be an obsessive lunatic. There’s not much to waste when the character we got is basically the character we’ve had from the beginning, he just had a cool design and that’s about it.
Don't forget that Adam was originally created by Monty with love and different, strong plans about his character. Bold enough to say that not only Adam but whole rwby got wasted after Monty's death, it's just more unnoticeable. I'm not in justifying Adam's behavior, but some time ago this fella WAS supposed to be the important one of rwby, that is for sure
The best part about this whole thing is that we see that aura doesn't stop stuff like smoke or gas from getting into your lungs (hence them holding their noses when they get smoke grenaded) Meaning that the good old standbys of mustard, chlorine, and nerve gas are still viable in this world. Excellent.
@@vlitragaia5969 Well I don’t, you’re not much of a badass by comparison to everyone else when the majority of your accomplishments are killing Grimm, goons, and robots, things that the majority of the other characters have accomplished at least once each. Adam’s really not that impressive or special when compared to everyone else.
Ah, I do miss the idea of Adam getting character development. Or an actual story. Or even a satisfying end. Instead he just got used as a prop for Bumblebee. What a shame. Oh, and also Sienna, just. Such a shame, awesome character design, amazing placement in the White Fang, and is killed off with less on screen time than in this short.
I feel like he's a tragic villain whose story could've been written better instead of it being an Abusive Ex/Stalker. He's one of the unfortunate characters whose story was ruined in RWBY and should've been written better to where he was saved and put in prison instead of being killed off cause Blake and Adam Represent Beauty and The Beast (not saying she owes him a relationship/Friendship or even a connection but she could've saved him instead of inciting his Abandonment Issues even more) he's honestly a Dark Version of What Yang would've become if Blake hadn't stopped running away from her Problems/Fears and if Yang didn’t have any friends or family to help her through her Trauma she would’ve been going down the same path as Adam. Truly wasted potential as a character
I'd rather have him be focused on the cause and not his ex-girlfriend than a redemption arc. Sure that's cool and all but I believe that it would have been better if he was this extremist because I doubt he'd simply forgive and forget.
After knowing oppression, what else can you do besides use physical force? After others don't recognise you as equal, having nothing but your own power is all that's left.
The irony of this trailer that's clearly trying to get me to see Adam as someone who was always bad, ends up making me sympathize with him as a character that was groomed and enabled to be like the people around him.
Continuity win: The Atlesian Robots are the older model from the Black trailer Continuity loss: Shouldn't Ilia be like 12 years old? White Fang Lieutenant would have worked better. I miss his chainsaw so much...
Well They never said when the fight takes place it could be a few months before the black trailer since he has the intricate pattern on the back and shoulder and Blake looks the same as volume 1 before he had it added that’s my theory anyway
Yyasemin Ssabanci Not from the literal volume, they just make the shorts before or after a volume ends, this is for Adam backstory stuff so they’d usually put Volume 5/6 short for it. I forgot which one it was for. Not in the actual show itself though, it’s showing the past like some of the other shorts
Ah yes, Adam. A super cool villain who should have been terrifyingly intimidating and a force to be reckoned with, nerfed and reduced to a whiny ex-boyfriend who couldn't move past being dumped. *puts his figure on The Shelf of Wasted Potential next to Torchwick*
I still love that guy, I think if someone other than a Blake or Yang would have encountered him he could have changed his mind. He was an excellent fighter, he would have been a great weapon against Salem. It would have been interesting him against Weiss, cause of that Schnee dust company brand mark on his eye.
If Weiss fought Adam alongside Blake you just know they wouldn't have killed him. seeing the brand on his face would have struck a lot of sympathy for Weiss and they would have just taken him to jail. Not having Weiss even have an interaction with him is the biggest missed opportunity in this show.
i want to uderstad one thing , why do the main characters continue to grow stronger while the rest are on pause ? it doesn't really make sense , adam was a beast that could've taken both yang and blake in volume 3 , how did they overpower him ? was he just sitting his ass when they were trainning ? why did they do my boi dirty ?
They didn't even get the growth or experience needed to get on his level at all. Blake went home, stopped an assassination attempt on her family and then came back to stop him at Mistral. While Yang was depressed for a bit, then did some light sparring with her dad, then fought some fodder bandits, more bandits and fought Mercury only to get her ass beat by him again!(That's also not even counting the whole "PTSD plot point" that was handled horribly) They never got the growth they needed, nor did they get the combat experience to actually fight on Adam's level, yet SOMEHOW they can actually kick his ass with no problem at all and then kill him? Straight power creep right there, it's just like with the Ace Ops, people who have *years* of experience and field combat on team RWBY, yet they still get beaten by them no problem which is so dumb. I blame the writers on this because it's because of them, Adam was nerfed and killed off by a buffed Blake and Yang who should've lost that fight so badly that Adam let them go alive as a mercy. The elite Huntsmen squad in Atlas got beaten by a team of people who only recently got the band back together, the same team who should've lost horribly due to the fact that they've only been killing Grimm for a year and that's it. When it comes to a elite Huntsmen squad? They've gotten their auras broken and taken to jail.
@@windghost2 bro , agree with everything you said , ace ops vs rwby should've been a massacre , but instead we got the " you were the best , but then you trained us " bullshit
waddah yana Exactly. The writing dictates who wins and who loses, apparently team RWBY must NEVER lose any fight which is stupid. They never grow and learn from their fights, they always come back and just beat everyone with no explanation whatsoever and it’s so tiring.
@@corygray1333 well ... They only revealed his face in v6 ... There is also the soundtrack of v6 "lionized" aka Adam's song but nothing more about him sadly ....just wasted potential
Yeah, good point. I just feel like he's the type of villian whose full backstory needs to be out there. After seeing his scar, I realized that he wasn't always a cruel, violent person. He probably was a decent person at one point in time. That all changed when he was branded like an animal and probably forced to be a slave for the Schee Dust Company.
I loved watching this. I really like Adam as a character, I acknowledge his many wrongdoings, but I love his fall from grace. I wished he got redeemed, but if he couldn't, I wanted him to say more than "oh"
The discourse surrounding Adam has always been frustrating... yet fascinating. The claim goes that the character was “originally” a bad boy that Blake loves yet feels has fallen far and needs to one day save before Volume 3 “retconned” his “original” personality. Many better people have made metas that break down this fallacy far better, usually framing it through shipping. However, I’ve been thinking about why many are still so attached to who Adam “was.” The fact is… we created Adam’s “original” character by ourselves. Between the Black Trailer and Volume 3, we only had bits and pieces to go off of when trying to figure out who Adam was. He seemed intimate with Blake, had a brooding demeanor and had a ““by any means necessary” M.O. to his missions. He appeared as the anti-hero type that tended to be a fandom fave by default. Of course, appearances can be deceiving by it all that we had. As the FNDM grew, so too did Adam’s fanon personality and the headcanons of what he was like in Blake’s relationships over the course of two whole Volumes as well as a bulk of Volume 3. The bad boy anti-hero characterization was taken as a given without considering what could he really be revealed as later. We all marinated in it without and evidence to the contrary until… Chapter 11 dropped. Suddenly, the troubled bad boy was revealed an abusive bad boy who Blake left not just because he was bad for the White Fang but also bad for her. It cut through all of those headcanons and fanworks built around the personality we had invented for him. In a way, we had fallen in love with who we thought he was and didn’t see who he really was not unlike how Blake had with Adam. Subverting expectations has become something fandoms are rallying against with stories setting up clear-cut endpoints only to swerve into the other direction almost haphazardly. The thing with Adam though is… we created those expectations ourselves. We interpreted him as a brooding bad boy to be redeemed later. We indulged in all of those fanwork that expected just that. Don’t take this as a rally against fanon or headcanons. The best part of any given fandom is the derivative works that spring from their tickled imagination. From fanart that is gorgeous to look at to fanfiction that could be literary contenders, these are the bread and butter of any fan base. RWBY would be dead in the water if not for these aspects like literally any other popular media. However, there’s an unwillingness to part ways with fanon after canon suddenly slices it to ribbons. It’s personal to the fandom at large and practically felt canon until… it didn’t. Furthermore, there’s a huge desire to not be wrong full stop in your interpretation of a character or plot point. On Social Media, it can feel like you just made an ass out of yourself like being naked in a classroom. Yet that’s just the risk we take with indulging in fandoms. We can’t help it even if we tried. However, when canon comes around to debunk it, well, ask yourself if you’re really mad about the writing or at forgetting that fanon was destined to be temporary. There’s a difference between things that one infers from the text until we get specifications and the text flat out spelling it all out in neon letters.
@@Zarozian she said "I had a partner" right before that. Also mentor relationships especially ones where the mentor and "student" are of similar age can turn romantic. Also do you really think Blake would be comfortable with saying yeah my exboyfriend turned crazy to her friends as she was still getting to know them?
For me, the problem is the lack of screentime. Mercury and Emerald both have more time just from Volumes 2 and 3 than Adam has in the entire show, and he is supposed to be a big bad. I mean, he becomes the head of the White Fang, he is the face of the attack against Beacon and Vale, one-shots Yang’s arm off, like, he’s comparable to Cinder as a boss-level villain. And the henchmen have more screentime and on-screen development than he does. And even all the other big bads get more screentime in Volumes 4-6 than Adam. Considering the buildup of importance he had leading up to his attack on Beacon, the close relationship he had with Blake, and the effect of his victory and attack had on Blake and Yang, the lack of attention on him is very disappointing.
What the name of the High Leader? I love her! She's beautiful~ Her look, her eyes, her piercings, her tattoos, the colors she wears! Such a cool design! So sad she got killed in her first appearance :(
Maybe if they released this, Adam is still alive? I really hope he doesn't stay a villain and die off with wasted potential (unless rooster teeth is really letting him get wasted). I play Cross Tag Battle (has playable RWBY characters in it) and the announcer announces Adam in the Character Select menu (in hidden sound files). So, i still have hope of his return.
The guy never met Ruby or Weiss, imagine what Weiss would have thought of the brand on his eye.
Or Ruby would have thought of meeting the guy who maimed her sister.
@@benjaminmcneil574 But we'll never see that, because they off'd him instead of making him a threat for all of team RWBY, more specifically Weiss (who should've been on Adam's hitlist to begin with) and went with the route of making him a cheesy abusive ex boyfriend.
@@oneangryboi408 Which was a good choice cause the fact that he died at the sametime the white fang storyline ended is a pretty good symbolic and it also allows Bale's character to move on.. Also i think what Weiss would of thought would have been ( well what else is new? ...) xD
@@tunderdiamant8651 I mean...the White Fang ended when Adam go kill his own men. This is when Adam doesn't represent anything but his own. In a sense, he is neither a human nor faunus, and became a monster, or should I say, a beast of his own.
@@tunderdiamant8651 There was a storyline?! Where? All they were was goons who was thrown around just for the sake of fighting *something* that we were never even shown besides being a feel good violence for RWBY to mess with. What faunus discrimination have we seen and not told about throughout the volumes besides a sign rejecting faunus from entering a building, bullying (that wasn't just for faunus but humans too), and some name callings?
The White Fang could've been a morally grey area that would've allowed the viewers to question things in a good way. You don't need to make things black and white. They didn't need to make Adam downright evil just for the sake of...a relationship? Adam was shown to not want any tidings with humans and was *threaten* to even join up with humans. We already were shown that the earlier, peaceful version of the White Fang was a failure because of peace, so it would be interesting to see the more bloodthirsty version in practice that shown effective methods, yet not completely working because fear lasts only so long.
The White Fang could've ended up with an endgame of a balance of these methods of both sides of the conflict on the faunus discrimination. They became aggressive for a reason, and Adam's brand was a solid proof of that if he didn't end up a shitty ex bf that every other cartoon show does these days.
I don't know where you got that this route was a 'good choice', but if you were fine with instead for a group that had a symbolic, and potential-leading storyline that includes a character with potential as well to just end up being a character with nothing else to go for but a spoiled rotten black cat, then I fear for you.
Adam short? Pfft Adam tall
Lyra 😂
Aw, now I have to delete my comment because it's similar to this 😂
Goddamit barb!
More like Adam "Fall" Amirite? :)
Yea, he's literally 6'4. Almost all the guys in this show are so tall.
As I do agree with Adam’s action that saved Blake’s Father, it seemed to be catalyst that sent him down his downward sprial. The spiral that Blake recognized was becoming more frequent and deadly, which why she left.
Even then he easily could've shot the handle of his sword into the guys head, as we see later when he's about to execute that one guy on the ground he always killed for fun.
Blake's dad was behind a truck next to 8 guards in a show where everyone is literally bulletproof. I think he was pretty safe my dude.
mockRabbit why did the show make it seem like he wouldn’t then?
It’s more of doing the right thing for the wrong reasons deal.
@@MardonNaLou The show doesn't though. The show does nothing to indicate that anyone is in any danger in that fight. No one watching that scene was thinking "Wow Blake's dad might be in a lot of trouble here." The scene just comes off as Adam going fucking ham on dude because he was too far away, and the show lazily trying to justify it afterward.
I think my least favorite thing about Adam is that he’s the only Faunus character that’s shown to be actively fighting against a system that has discriminated him and his race since the dawn of man…and the show writes him more as a crazy ex boyfriend for some reason.
He's both, that's the thing. I agree that the writers did Adam dirty with his story and how they followed up with it. He started off great; he really believed in his cause and used his power to fight for it, but he started going down the wrong path and was using only violence and fear in the end. I think they wanted to play it as him going mad with power, and after being humiliated at Haven by the new White Fang and losing what weak trust he had in his followers (he put them under him by fear and lies), he had nothing else to focus on except for his obession over Blake, which led him to his death. I don't believe he's the only Faunus who was actively going against the system put over him though, Blake started to after Volume 4, as did Ilia and the new White Fang ofc. Overall though they really messed up whatever message they were trying to tell with the Faunus, and it reflects off of Adam's character and him being a villain in the end, that soured his story for me for sure.
Yep, they pretty much did him dirty
He started as the fight er for his race...... Sadly.... I dont know why they completly thrown away this Character and let his Story end as the creepy stalker ex boy Friend
@@We3dCraftLP Probably because they couldn't think of a way to make him a half decent character... despite having all of the pieces in front of them.
He could have joined Salem officially, made some other big attack, snuck into Atlas, maybe fight Cinder for using him, perhaps at some pivotable moment could take a fatal attack for Blake.... Something and anything than that pitiful end that they gave him.
@@SANRIOSLAUGHTER i get the obsession park but as a crazy ex boyfriend ruined the character
RWBY: *Releases Adam short after "killing" him off*
Blake/Yang: *chuckles* I'm in danger!
Nico lmfaoo
This was an old short they posted on the Rooster Teeth channel. They're most likely moving their shorts and all animation stuff to here
Nico he's definitely dead no doubt about it
@@icegoldcool9932 Have you seen an animal with red fangs or something
@@user-bu3ne9yt9q a bloody fang is a red fang
Adam is the character that shows how much strong emotions can cloud the mind of a person. Adam will probably be one of my favourites.
>>>Anakin Skywalker
I agree.
well
Same, he’s definitely my favorite villain. His weapons are my favorite on the show so far though.
@@zackthezabarak739 these are cool yeah!
Of all the people, Yang lend him a hand.
Hello again
Just Some Guy without a Mustache we meet again
GODDAMMIT BARB!
ouch, that sure was painful
Well, for all of his faults, Adam does have a disarming personality.
1:34
"There's no need for violins!"
**Flynt suddenly appears**
"Then how 'bout this sick trumpet?"
**uses **-kage bunshin no jutsu-** semblance**
Adam Raaif Nasheed Did someone say....funky?
¡ ! Did someone say.. Funky town?
sosig
Alexa, play “Funky Town”
XD
*Ya like jazz?*
It’s an unpopular opinion, but Adam was one of my favourites.
Powerful semblance and weapon, sad backstory, amazing fighting and skill.
I feel like he could of either had a great character development and arc. Or he could have become a much worse threat to Team RWBY. I honestly wish he never died.
Sometimes im glad he died. Just watching how they made him a psychotic ex boyfriend was so bad.
@@MegumiKeehl fr and the thing that made me more upset was he didnt even care about blake in the first seasons when he had small appearances. Then all of a sudden he was obsessed with blake. He was honestly so misused
Adam from Volume 3 onward was just straight up character assassination. He could have been so much more.
@@Kyl0_ben eh Monty had a hand in volume 3 and they were going off his chicken scratch. I think they could’ve done many thing better with him, but based upon what Blake said about him in volume 2 goes hand in hand with a narcissistic abuser.
They just struggled with the symptoms then on.
That's not an Opinion. He has obejectly much more Potential than that waste & troll we got at the end. He should have a higher goal, and should be much more OP to see a REAL Threat who everyone fears. Most of the Writers don't see their own giving Potential, cause the Majority of People aren't in that clarity state for themselfes. Only a few Individuals can see through that.
3:32
Can I just say the animation has gotten so much better...Blake in the V1 outfit tho
Better funding often allows for better animation.
I still miss the old animation
Yes the outfit is mwah
I was gonna say, seeing Blake with her volume 1 style with the newer animation enhancement is incredible. I kinda wanna see them remake the first volume and touch up some of the meh scenes. Like cinder jumping on the roofs and the whole gang running through that field after the nevermore
This makes me want them to see a slight redesign of the vale designs when the team go back to vale in a later volume
Adam: Our kinds been beaten, murdered, treated like DAWGS!
Marrow: Aight! Imma head out...
*Marrow Amin has left the chat*
*Marrow: :(*
Yes just ignore the fact there was a dog fanus literally _right in front of him_
mattwo7 lol don’t worry I noticed
No way I want Adam next season 8 and 9 and 10 make more season for Adam
MAGA GAME Nah he wasnt a person he was a plot device
Adam wasn't born a monster. His experiences turned him into one.
If only the show went that angle, which seems to be what Monty was intended, but sadly they dived head long into abusive ex boyfriend
i mean yea its like that for everyone, except grim
No, he wasn't born a monster, but its not about what happens to you, its how you decide to let it effect you. He COULD have used his pain to try and change humanity so it sees faunus better, being a stronger voice than Ghira, but instead he chose to turn his pain into a weapon aimed at the world, first at humanity, then anyone who crosses him.
Its a truly sad fate
@@Adam-yq9xe I think that they did actually go in that direction - victims of abuse often become abusers themselves, and his wanting to control Blake (and the other faunus) fits well with that, especially considering how little control he had over his own life as a faunus working for the SDC. In any case, I believe CRWBY know Monty's intentions way better than us, and Adam was set up as a person ready to take innocent lives as early as the Black trailer.
@@miapopova1030 dude no they didn't. They went head long into being an abusive boyfriend. Former animator have gone on record saying they were taking the show in directions Monty didnt intend and we know for a fact that Adam was involved in those changes since his fight in the last volume was meant for volume 3
Title: Adam Short
Me: I don't know, he looks pretty tall in the movies
In the end though the thug was pretty much cut "Short"
What movies?
@@yuz_ha It's a saying. There isn't really a movie
Aw, thanks!
Rooster teeth: “Y’all remember Adam?”
“No? Neither do we”
Well, yeah, he was a minor villain with what? barely 30 minutes of screentime?
i remember a cool faunas bull villain who didn't turn into an obsessive ex boyfriend.
When was he that?
"Wasn't he that extremist villain with a cause?"
"Nah he's the psycho ex bf"
"Oh, what happened to him again?"
"His character was slain during the ship wars, remember?"
"It's hard to remember psycho exes. They're hardly villains with a cause. Now that guy from the Black trailer, I'm interested..."
Right, because he had such a defined personality in the Black trailer
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Did they reanimate Blake without a bellybutton just for this scene to reference that she didn't have one in Volume 1-3 in that outfit😂😂
Well done CREWBY
Pretty sure they just used the old model.
@@fortcolors9887 even if they did, it would have not taken long to add a belly button. therefore, the decision to not add must have been on purpose
@@Vanessareyes6777 That's a bit of backwards logic, they more than likely forgot.
We arguing over belly buttons now?
Bruh this is funny
You know, at the beginning of the fight, the White Fang aren’t attacking, they are just ducking for cover while those other people are shooting at them without any provocation, and Adam attacks them when they shoot their leader. And I know Adam was kind of a bad guy and he killed they guy with the pistol, but he did fight back in self defense.
Exactly, he only killed the last guy because he literally saw no other option in that moment
And you can even see him regretting it before Sienna praised him
@@lonewolf9578 exactly and in a fight its do or die and I rather people do what they feel is right and in self defense its justified
And if you look closely, his attacks weren't even lethal until that last guy. Until then, it was mostly neautralization attacks.
That’s understandable, but yet we all know a bigot won’t see it that way. A bigot will do anything to to get a minority to lash out, because if a minority lashes out that’s a chance for a bigot to paint them as evil. To defeat something like racism, you have to have the control to not lash out, even when faced with violence like that. Adam could’ve easily focused on combatting their gunfire without harming any of them, which in turn would keep all of the white fang members safe whilst not desecrating their goals.
Exactly, Adam was a man that the world made evil. That's why his death is referred to as a tragedy instead of a triumph in the song Nevermore.
Adam: FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THE HUMANS ARE EVIL
Well I guess Anakin was kinda right, but not about killing the younglings
wait why did i think of the Anakin, start Panikin 😃
Adam really could have been a Magneto/Killmonger for the faunus and I wish they utilized him better. Hate me if you want, but I liked Adam, and it saddens me how it all played out.
Yeah, even my brother who never watched RWBY at all instantly was drawn to Adam for how cool he was and after watching a video about him, but to his and my disappointment, he was completely wasted, the show never explained his backstory at all. EXCEPT that in amity arena, it has a tiny bit of info on his past, as it turns out, before ever being involved with the white fang, he used to work at the dust mines, as a slave most likely and having hopes and dreams about leaving and finding a purpose, but when he got the brand on his eye, to him it was over, the brand was a cold and brutal reminder that those hopes and dreams were nothing more but that, dreams and fantasies, since not only he’s a Faunus but also he was scarred and in a mess, the only thing that gave him a purpose was the white fang and blake, but both of those things either screwed him over or turned their back on him . The white fang in my opinion after reading that mini paragraph looked like it was giving him mixed signals at first, ghira pretty much shunned him for killing while Sienna was giving him praise , that’s already a problem even for Adam who’s probably more emotionally unstable than anyone else in the faction due to everything he probably went through in the mines, and over time, the faction became more violent and Adam became violent as well, maybe as a way to vent out the pent up anger and trauma on to the race that caused all of it, and for blake, she was the only ray of light he had, she was the beauty in his story, which makes sense given that’s the story that they’re based on, but as Adam became more violent and more cold blooded, blake just decided to leave on a mission. And yeah I know about the whole “she was abused” deal but in all honesty, it never looked or even sounded like he was abusing her, in all honesty I think he was just emotionally manipulating her. And the show never showed anything about that, while he did slap her and stab her in the gut, at the time, they were enemies who were once allies and a couple, not only that, but also you have to remember that blake pretty much abandoned him so that was also a huge motivator.
Same bro I always likes Adam unfortunately he was thrown away before we can see him really shine...guess theres only RT to blame for that.
deathshot gaming yeah, I don’t like the part where they pulled the abuser card thing, it was trash
@@santiagogarcia1606 I think Adam was something similar to what the beast would have ended up like if beauty hadn't fallen in love with him and had abandoned him when she had the chance. Of course I honestly think Adam deserved better, but I also think it would have been interesting to see that twist on the beauty and the beast. There were two cards that could have been played but one was discarded and the other wasn't played all that well, which resulted in the mess that was Adam's ending. And although Adam was made to be the villain he was a victim himself since no one really tried to help him, actually no one even realized how much he was being torn apart by everything, it would have been a nice twist to see his side of the story if he was meant to have a tragic ending from the start.
@@santiagogarcia1606 uy buena santi aragan
I always imagined how Ruby and Weiss would have met Adam.
And how would Weiss have reacted to Adam regarding the mark on his eye.
Miss opportunity
@@matheusdemello2323 Missed*
just further confirmation the SDC sucked, not new to her unless they suddenly decide to have her break down about it.
I feel sad that we didn't get to see more of Sienna. Her character was cool, and I love her fighting style.
I love Wilt and Blush so much, its such a good weapon, and also combined with Adam's semblance it's so much better.
Edit: Also his fighting style is amazing as well.
It's iaido.
It’s interesting that his fighting style makes him a glass cannon.
It sounds like a beast on the Lionize track of RWBY
"Don't worry, nothing will stop us now. It's time I got what I deserved."
*gets ass handed to him by Blake and forced to flee*
*Then proceeds to die to Blake and Yang a whole volume later*
Ya really should phrase things more carefully, Adam...
@@benjaminmcneil574 His poor choice of wordplay ( among other things 😒) led to his downfall. Good riddance.
Tomás Molina Heh. _Downfall_
I see what you did there...
Well, he did get what he deserved
@@Tw0Dots Pun greatly intended. 😁
adam kills someone and the survivors run away yelling YOU GUYS ARE ALL FREAKS. now THAT's bravery
This will always make me feel for Adam. A monster created by circumstance. Hate bred what Adam came to be.
Gotta admit: Adam's outfit with the red and white design on his back is better than the one with all these zippers
The faunus racism arc pretty much went no where lol
The actual conclusion in V5 says otherwise. Y'know, the whole message about how terrorism and killing innocent people is wrong? Ring any bells?
@@HenryGray-sy4puI think it was interesting conceptually but it's executed pretty poorly. A cival rights group being pushed to insanity because of everything they go through is an interesting concept but that concept doesn't really work if the oppression is never shown and most members are portrayed as mindless grunts.
@@banzaialex5984 The discrimination itself is shown _plenty,_ and we get the POV of multiple former "faceless goons" as you call them.
It's good to give us some back story to his character and personality.
Dylan Biggs Even though it’s pretty much useless now lol
Idek why they made a short.
Only thing that matters now, is how, where, and when he got the SDC brand burned onto is fuckin’ eyeball
I mean you know his personnality and a little of his backstory tho ... If you don't then you just didn't pay attentionto the show ... We literally know more of Adam then we know of Cinder xD
¡ ! This short is older.
This was made way back in chapter 5 if I remember correctly.
Why they choose to Re-release it now doesn’t make sense
furuta kun if you’re suggesting what I think you are suggesting then you have gained my trust
So glad they scraped this and made him into just an abusive Boyfriend that's such a better story than this right?
I'm here for Sienna, always wanted to know what weapon she used
Red
Cerberus was its name
@@silvershadow9967 Named for the three detachable dust blades I take it?
All the people with some of the coolest weapons just end up dying like, jeez really CRWBY lol
@@Tw0Dots Y-yeah *thinks of the best character that was involved RWBY*
Same
Manbeast- has only 2 primal ears
Rwby manbeast- has 4 ears
Me: Wha?!
I saw that too
I'm glad we had this to show how badass Khan was
They really needed to do more with his character. So much more...
Made a short of Adam only to kill him the same season
Mary-Anne Lee That’s RWBY’s recent writing for you.
@@LiterallySpikeSpiegel hey remember Adam and how everyone started hating him after v5? Well we have more Adam content for you so u can start reconsidering your thoughts we won't kill him right after or anything
Yang: we did what we had to do
BULLSHIT
@@lorddarthfire1560 *also barely features Adam or shows anything about him until the last 3 episodes where its mostly just fighting* Yuuuuuup, more Adam content for you peeps!
Can I just say, Adam was totally in the right with that first guy he killed
How so? He shows he has several non lethal ways to take someone at range, including just shooting his sword hilt first. No, he CHOSE to kill that guy.
I can see it as a understandable reaction in the situation.
Bart Embregts I mean he could have shot him with wilt
@@tyrongkojy The guy was running and shooting towards the leader of the white fang which he almost killed so I don't think he have a enough time to knock him out.
tyrongkojy The guy was running up to Ghira with a gun in his hand ready to shoot, I’m sorry but in this instance he had to act fast no matter what, and since guy was seemingly a violent racist who just wanted to kill them for being Faunus, him giving him a taste of his Semblance is both reasonable and justified. So even if he DID chose the lethal approach he’s still in the right since when you got people who are trying to kill you sadly there’s times where you have to put them down, one way or the other, and since he was trying to kill Ghira, the leader of a group trying to help an oppressed group of people, he had to do that now, lest they lose an important leader who is helping their people, in comparison to the consequences of him dying and killing a violent racist who chose to start this whole mess to begin with, it’s clear what needed to be done. And let’s please stop acting as if killing someone who is trying to murder people in self defense somehow makes you morally equivalent to them, it doesn’t. And it’s not like he even tortured him or even made him suffer, he killed him quickly.
Being a creepy stalker bf was literally the least interesting direction they could have taken Adam, and it ultimately eclipsed everything else about him... :/
Should have worked the terminator angle just because of how hutch hatred he has. Like he has obsessively done nothing but train to his limits then past them fuelled by his hatred and combined with his OP semblance he's a monster in combat almost no one but a maiden can bring down. When he doing cool OP stuff when was the memorable thing about him so they should have sold him purely in that light. It's an incredibly easy character to write and fits well with the strength of RWBY that's cool spectacle fighting.
Good thing fanfiction did Adam more justice than Rooster Teeth did
@@rexlumontad5644 Fanfiction does a lot of the characters justice.
Personally I would have liked to see what his and Weiss's interactions would have been like, since she's the ex-heiress to the SDC, after all. She should be the one he's after, not Blake. Yes, Blake's the princess of Menagerie, but other than that, there's not much more that would make her important enough to Adam to chase after her besides the fact that she broke up with him. It would have been a much more interesting plot line to see how the leader of a rebellion and the girl born into luxury would have interacted than to watch a guy high on power chase after an ex who left him during a mission.
Since Weiss was supposed to inherit the SDC, it would have made sense for Adam to focus more on her than Blake. Her father is the one that allowed poor treatment of the Faunus in his mines. Even though Weiss never knew about it, it would have fit so much better for Adam to be chasing after her. It would have been awesome to see what Adam was capable of doing all the way up to V8 if he hadn't died so early on and paid more attention to the Schnee family. Simply making him a stalker ex-boyfriend screwed up the entire story and even threw a wrench in some of the White Fang's missions (Ex. the Haven Academy fight).
@@lemonorca Agreed; Adam fighting Blake because she's defending Weiss (who represents everything the White Fang is supposed to be against) and he can't understand why has more pathos in it than what we got, what was essentially just (insert Star Wars Traitor meme here).
The last time Adam had good character development. He was one of the best villians in the entire show, I wish we explored more about him.
For real, if they had made the right choices and had the writers to do it he could have possibly become an anti hero like it showed him being early on
@@lonewolf9578 R.I.P Montey and his work.
@@theswig2339 for real, you have to wonder how the story might have turned out if he was still around
@@lonewolf9578 It would have been a lot more interesting that’s for sure.
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I always liked Adam despite the fact that he was too much into his feelings but he was an amazing character
Adam had the coolest semblance with the worst character development.
FOOL he had no character development he stayed evil
Had the coolest semblance, and best theme song. I'll miss his crazy ass. xD
Zelvi - SAME. I actually loved his character until he became obsessive about Blake. But he was badass on his own.
Hes character sucks
Cool design. Cool power
But that's all. He is just an antagonist. We know nothing about him, sad.
I think they should release a second, "Adam Short," showing his life leading up to the White Fang. What was he like as a kid? Who terrorized him? Who branded his eye and why?
I think he has some history with the Schnee Corporation, who he probably has the most hate towards But never see him and Weiss or anyone from the family cross paths
@@samster101229 I've come to a similar conclusion when he takes off his mask and we see the Schnee Dust Company's initials. It must've been meant to mark new boxes and crates before they're shipped off.
The brand on his eye is enough to infer it. Slaves were often branded IRL, that combined with the knowledge that the SDC has "questionable" business practices is more than enough.
Probably got branded as a kid for acting up.
I quite like the fact that it's left up to audience interpretation, but we're given the pieces to connect the dots. Paints a not-so-pretty picture of what life was like for Adam before he really let his spite take over.
*kills a guy*
Tiger Woman: he's a hero.
*kills tiger woman*
Adam: am I still a hero?
Tiger Woman: not when you do it to me.
So, copy pasting dialogues from eunnieverse's web comics, huh?
BlacKingler it's a reference
Her name is Sienna
Her name is Sienna and you will put respect on her name 😤
Queen Mari how can I respect a woman who trusted Adam Taurus?
Honestly I wished Sienna got proper characterization and build up. She could’ve had a bigger impact really testing Adam and her death could’ve had him contemplate on whether he’s right or not.
Sienna was just as responsible for the attack on beacon as Adam was, it very indirect, but the praise she gave him gave Adam the mindset he had
thought he was still alive for a second
isnt that what it implied at the end?
@@hugdealer4176 I know.
I thought so too, but I'm sorry, Blake and Yang went Julius Ceasar on that motherfucker lol It'd have to be the work of the almighty plot armor for him to be alive after that.
~Yuuki
@@truecrosscosplay841 Caesar got stabbed like 30 some times tho. I refuse to believe that a character as cool as Adam was died simply from two stupid stab wounds, and his last word literally being "oh." Dude totally could have washed up on the shore of the river somewhere. No body, no guaranteed death. RT has obviously animated other scenes out of order in the timeline. They could have already animated the scene with him stumbling at the end way before they knew exactly how he would die. Like they could have simply planned to make it look like he died (volume 6) but have the tease scene with him coming back at the end of his character short (this vid, pre vol 6). I feel that he has potential to be "redeemed" in several ways. But my idea is this. A rogue Adam that's realised the fight with Blake is pointless for starters. He still despises her of course, but he's not so obsessed. I'm not sure exactly but like a personal revenge manhunt for all those who've wronged him. Sorta like an anti hero, against Hazel, and the rest of Salem's team, even the SDC. Against the New white fang, and the shows good guys. The rogue assassin concept if you will. He sides with no one, against the world. I think THAT would be badass
@@hugdealer4176 nah that looks like it's right after Haven. His mask broke in the fight, remember?
Adam could have been a really cool character but they turned him into a weird stalker boyfriend villian.
Adam was so incredibly good until Volume 5. He had a story and a character that could be molded into one of the most interesting ones in the show. Akin to Anakin Skywalker, you could show his hate and anger lead him to suffer, but somehow he redeems himself.
But nah, Adam is sleeping with the fishes...
Honestly, I wish they hadn't gone the route of 'Blake's abusive ex who didn't really believe in the cause he fought for, only using it to kill humans.' It would have been so much more interesting if he had been, say, Blake's mentor and that, while he went to extremes, he truly believed in the cause of equality for Faunus. Only for that to go downhill for him when Cinder showed up to enlist him in the attack on Beacon.
@@SchwartzBruder30 that was montys original design but..progressive writing and a bunch of other horse shit ensued and my character was drowned in shit
Adam Taurus6659 you don’t know what montys original vision was so shutup first of all and second the creators who were actually close friends with the dude knew what he wanted better than anyone so you got what you got dumbass
@@Ro-fw3lc You do know Monty was progressive as a person too. He was the first one to make a statement about having an LGBT character in the show
@@maiseree1511 wait... What? Are you referring to coco and velvet? Cause I'm pretty sure yang and blake got basically forced together by the community instead of being the original way things were supposed to go between them
Remember when he was a mysterious mentor/partner instead of a lame, angsty ex-boyfriend stereotype?
That was... literally just the black trailer lol
@@Iridescent_Astraea No, it was also how Blake described him in season 2... She literally called him, "my mentor".
If you know how to write stories and have been in the fandom since the beginning, you can very easily see that RT has been steadily letting the fandom write the future of the RWBY-verse more and more... Changing the direction of the story and characters based on whatever the most popular theories or fan-fictions are. Adam started as a mentor and accomplice to Blake, but the fandom shipped them so hard that RT changed the direction of his character and his and Blake's story to appease their fantasies.
@@Thescott16 volume 3 is literally him going on and on about how “you’ve hurt me so much my love”. He’s always been angst king
@@brandonturner5058 Yea, they had already rewritten him by that point. This is the "writing team" that used the fandom's nicknames for the RWBY team ships as names for combo moves (bumblebee, freezer burn, etc) *in season 2,* even at that stage they were being influenced by the fandoms whims.
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Coming back to watch this just reminds me of how fond I was of this character. He was one of my favorite characters and I was mad when he died.
Adam Taurus will always be my favourite villain, who deserves better writing and character development.
Exactly my man.
Why?! What has he ever done that sets him up as anything other than a narcissistic, abusive, terrorist leader? Literally nothing ever. He was ALWAYS this.
Sienna is so badass, great design and great potential character just thrown away by RT. The whip/rope dart action looks so cool
Why didn't Adam ever interact with Weiss? Why wasn't his main goal to ever kidnap her or kill her? That would have communicated him as a threat without reducing him to an incel.
RIP to wasted potential
That scene with Blake... they just nailed how abusers manipulate their victims with empty promises.
@wiltandblush First off, don't try to make her out to be the bad guy when he's literally shown guilt tripping her for bringing up how many "accidents" occur on his missions. And in the same conversation, he uses that guilt. Along with her estranged relationship with her parents in order to manipulate her into turning, a blind eye towards his actions.
And let's not forget how he tricked her into thinking he was some kind of freedom fighter when in reality, he's just some a bitter asshole using the WF in order to hurt humans.
I like his Design, his weapon. All in all, he looks like a cool character.
But the storytelling... My god, it's atrocious.
So many things are getting sidelined and undervalued.
Adam is one of those things.
His intro was good. My first impressions were "cool, A freedom fighter/extremist."
It reminds me of the terrorist group avalanche in FF7
And Adam was like... A calmer version of Barret cause he was obviously the leader.
Back then, we assumed Adam was the leader because there were no other characters to speak of. No sienna, no ghira. Just Adam and his mad crusade against humanity.
This was good. It was a topic for controversy. Was he in the right or was he just another irredeemable bad guy?
If RWBY had shown how far Faunus discrimination hurts the faunus then it would have been a truly compelling plot.
All we got was blake talking about it. Signs that kept faunus from entering a bar. Bullying and that applies to humans too.
And then you find out that Blake is literally the princess of Menagerie.
Menagerie is another problem... It doesn't look like its crowded... Heck if it was crowded then nobody would even consent to Ghira, and by proxy his family, owning a mansion.
Menagerie looks like paradise. Etf she talking about? Discrimination? Flee to fucking menagerie and never leave.
So many things are wrong with this series....
Ptsd, racism, logic, and the incessant need to explain....
Don't explain the fucking magic.... Its like you don't have an idea what to write and so, give the solutions to mysteries that clouded us in the 1st 3 volumes.
That's the wrong fucking move holy shit.
I agree it is one of the reasons that I liked the idea of him branded with the SDC logo
@@Eugene_Black found it annoying how Blake never called Jacques out on it in volume 7 and 8
Careful the community doesn't like opinions
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how cute Blake ears were!! 😍😍
Julia Spight “were”?
¡ ! When she was talking with adam
Julia Spight
It's is "are", she isn't dead.
8 years before Adam's passing
A couple years later I'm still mad with the way they killed off Adam lol
also how his character died before he did
Ghirah, those people where trying to kill you, we’re long last there being “no need for violence”
The preaching never stops. But Adam is the kind of person who brings about changes. The people talking peace and everything follows later to make a morally justified stand.
Adam is easily one of the biggest waste of great potential character building in the history of animation
Tbf, did he have much of a character to begin with? He literally only had about 2 to 3 minor scenes before he was shown to be an obsessive lunatic. There’s not much to waste when the character we got is basically the character we’ve had from the beginning, he just had a cool design and that’s about it.
Don't forget that Adam was originally created by Monty with love and different, strong plans about his character. Bold enough to say that not only Adam but whole rwby got wasted after Monty's death, it's just more unnoticeable. I'm not in justifying Adam's behavior, but some time ago this fella WAS supposed to be the important one of rwby, that is for sure
3:48 The only time we get to see Sienna Khan kick ass in a RWBY short.
I am still pissed CRWBY killed him off like that...
I wish it’s possible someone save him in time
The best part about this whole thing is that we see that aura doesn't stop stuff like smoke or gas from getting into your lungs (hence them holding their noses when they get smoke grenaded)
Meaning that the good old standbys of mustard, chlorine, and nerve gas are still viable in this world.
Excellent.
GUNS DONT THO BRUH
I don't care what everyone says, Adam is a total badass of a character that really deserved better.
Everyone else agrees with you
Him and Roman wasted
That's why everyone is mad, wasted potential. Same with roman
I rest my case?
@@vlitragaia5969 Well I don’t, you’re not much of a badass by comparison to everyone else when the majority of your accomplishments are killing Grimm, goons, and robots, things that the majority of the other characters have accomplished at least once each. Adam’s really not that impressive or special when compared to everyone else.
Ah, I do miss the idea of Adam getting character development. Or an actual story. Or even a satisfying end.
Instead he just got used as a prop for Bumblebee. What a shame.
Oh, and also Sienna, just. Such a shame, awesome character design, amazing placement in the White Fang, and is killed off with less on screen time than in this short.
They did the same with Jacques a Volume later, it’s not surprising they can’t write good villains..........
@@triela7502 And Cinder, to a degree.
Haha, accidental pun.
Let's hope they don't ruin Neo and her thing with Roman's Legacy.
VS Arachnos I’m hoping Neo doesn’t go down like a bitch, she is my favorite character. Her fighting style is one of the best.
@@triela7502 I just like her character, the amount of Silent Sass is maybe my favourite thing.
VS Arachnos if they make her speak that will ruin her, some things are best left unexplained.
I feel like he's a tragic villain whose story could've been written better instead of it being an Abusive Ex/Stalker. He's one of the unfortunate characters whose story was ruined in RWBY and should've been written better to where he was saved and put in prison instead of being killed off
cause Blake and Adam Represent Beauty and The Beast (not saying she owes him a relationship/Friendship or even a connection but she could've saved him instead of inciting his
Abandonment Issues even more) he's honestly a Dark Version of What Yang would've become if Blake hadn't stopped running away from her Problems/Fears and if Yang didn’t have any friends or family to help her through her Trauma she would’ve been going down the same path as Adam. Truly wasted potential as a character
RWBY's version of Garrosh Hellscream from WoW, except without daddy issues and with actual reasons to hate everybody
Huh … never thought of the two together. Nice.
that so fucking acurated
Oh my.
At least someone thinks the same way as I do. I remember Adam's character everytime I see Garrosh in WoW.
And with a similar drop into "what the fuck was that"
If only he could have a prince zuko redemption
Ethan Tran
Cinder?
@@yuz_ha nah Adam
No its for Raven
I'd rather have him be focused on the cause and not his ex-girlfriend than a redemption arc. Sure that's cool and all but I believe that it would have been better if he was this extremist because I doubt he'd simply forgive and forget.
After knowing oppression, what else can you do besides use physical force? After others don't recognise you as equal, having nothing but your own power is all that's left.
So Adam only became violent when necessary at first, but Sienna started feeding the flames
RWBY - Wasted Potential Short
So everything that's not Volume 3?
@@Nersius yup
The irony of this trailer that's clearly trying to get me to see Adam as someone who was always bad, ends up making me sympathize with him as a character that was groomed and enabled to be like the people around him.
Continuity win: The Atlesian Robots are the older model from the Black trailer
Continuity loss: Shouldn't Ilia be like 12 years old? White Fang Lieutenant would have worked better. I miss his chainsaw so much...
Ah yes, *The Chainsaw man*
Well They never said when the fight takes place it could be a few months before the black trailer since he has the intricate pattern on the back and shoulder and Blake looks the same as volume 1 before he had it added
that’s my theory anyway
Adam is my favorite "Vergil effect" by far. For most things
"It's time I got what I deserve."
*BETTER WRITERS*
Yes!! 🤩
"I told you, it was an accident" - Adam Taurus
They could've done so much more with his character
Damn it RT
Forget Adam, this was our chance to see Sienna fight. And man, I love her style.
Aw man I thought this was new for a second there lol
Ya’ll could’ve at least put the Volume in the title 😂
What volume is it from? I've never seen this before :o
Yyasemin Ssabanci Not from the literal volume, they just make the shorts before or after a volume ends, this is for Adam backstory stuff so they’d usually put Volume 5/6 short for it. I forgot which one it was for. Not in the actual show itself though, it’s showing the past like some of the other shorts
Why does Adam have a point tho
Ah yes, Adam. A super cool villain who should have been terrifyingly intimidating and a force to be reckoned with, nerfed and reduced to a whiny ex-boyfriend who couldn't move past being dumped. *puts his figure on The Shelf of Wasted Potential next to Torchwick*
Torchwick seems like that character was gonna die anyway and honestly I was fine with it
What could Torchwick possibly do once the show left Vale? To keep using him would be to waste him.
I still love that guy, I think if someone other than a Blake or Yang would have encountered him he could have changed his mind. He was an excellent fighter, he would have been a great weapon against Salem. It would have been interesting him against Weiss, cause of that Schnee dust company brand mark on his eye.
If Weiss fought Adam alongside Blake you just know they wouldn't have killed him. seeing the brand on his face would have struck a lot of sympathy for Weiss and they would have just taken him to jail. Not having Weiss even have an interaction with him is the biggest missed opportunity in this show.
@@ItsB1998 Totally agree with ya
i want to uderstad one thing , why do the main characters continue to grow stronger while the rest are on pause ? it doesn't really make sense , adam was a beast that could've taken both yang and blake in volume 3 , how did they overpower him ? was he just sitting his ass when they were trainning ? why did they do my boi dirty ?
They didn't even get the growth or experience needed to get on his level at all.
Blake went home, stopped an assassination attempt on her family and then came back to stop him at Mistral. While Yang was depressed for a bit, then did some light sparring with her dad, then fought some fodder bandits, more bandits and fought Mercury only to get her ass beat by him again!(That's also not even counting the whole "PTSD plot point" that was handled horribly)
They never got the growth they needed, nor did they get the combat experience to actually fight on Adam's level, yet SOMEHOW they can actually kick his ass with no problem at all and then kill him?
Straight power creep right there, it's just like with the Ace Ops, people who have *years* of experience and field combat on team RWBY, yet they still get beaten by them no problem which is so dumb.
I blame the writers on this because it's because of them, Adam was nerfed and killed off by a buffed Blake and Yang who should've lost that fight so badly that Adam let them go alive as a mercy.
The elite Huntsmen squad in Atlas got beaten by a team of people who only recently got the band back together, the same team who should've lost horribly due to the fact that they've only been killing Grimm for a year and that's it. When it comes to a elite Huntsmen squad? They've gotten their auras broken and taken to jail.
@@windghost2 bro , agree with everything you said , ace ops vs rwby should've been a massacre , but instead we got the " you were the best , but then you trained us " bullshit
waddah yana Exactly. The writing dictates who wins and who loses, apparently team RWBY must NEVER lose any fight which is stupid. They never grow and learn from their fights, they always come back and just beat everyone with no explanation whatsoever and it’s so tiring.
Everyone here is ranting about how Adam was wasted and I'm here just cause this short was cool.
Fair enough
I can do both
I have a feeling that Adam is gonna return in Volume 8.
And see his body is covered with scars.
Comes back with like a cybernetic chest plate or something
@@KillerOrca Maybe
lolno
After seeing what he looked like without the mask, I need Adam's backstory.
He's one of those villains that deserve to have their story told.
About that ...
@@pl6143 what?
Did they reveal his backstory finally?
@@corygray1333 well ... They only revealed his face in v6 ... There is also the soundtrack of v6 "lionized" aka Adam's song but nothing more about him sadly ....just wasted potential
I'm just glad that he's probably chilling in the afterlife now and doesn't need to suffer of bad writing anymore
Yeah, good point.
I just feel like he's the type of villian whose full backstory needs to be out there. After seeing his scar, I realized that he wasn't always a cruel, violent person. He probably was a decent person at one point in time. That all changed when he was branded like an animal and probably forced to be a slave for the Schee Dust Company.
I remember when I liked Adam but now he just ended up as a plot device for bumblebee still 2 years later and I’m still salty about this
Me too.
I loved watching this. I really like Adam as a character, I acknowledge his many wrongdoings, but I love his fall from grace. I wished he got redeemed, but if he couldn't, I wanted him to say more than "oh"
Introducing: the most wasted character of this show
Did they mispell "Sienna" with "adam"?
@@miuletzmitzu6641 Funny way of saying "glynda" there.
Mastema Howard who even knows where that lady went lmao
If you want to see pure disrespect just keep watching and see what the writers do to him
Laughs in Torchwick
I will never forgive them for dogging Adam he’s not even a character I particularly liked but he had so much potential wasted
Plot twist: Adam survived, found Yang`s Bike and is on his way to Atlas.
I .... Actually like the sound of that.
Is it a submarine bike?
The discourse surrounding Adam has always been frustrating... yet fascinating.
The claim goes that the character was “originally” a bad boy that Blake loves yet feels has fallen far and needs to one day save before Volume 3 “retconned” his “original” personality. Many better people have made metas that break down this fallacy far better, usually framing it through shipping. However, I’ve been thinking about why many are still so attached to who Adam “was.”
The fact is… we created Adam’s “original” character by ourselves. Between the Black Trailer and Volume 3, we only had bits and pieces to go off of when trying to figure out who Adam was. He seemed intimate with Blake, had a brooding demeanor and had a ““by any means necessary” M.O. to his missions. He appeared as the anti-hero type that tended to be a fandom fave by default. Of course, appearances can be deceiving by it all that we had.
As the FNDM grew, so too did Adam’s fanon personality and the headcanons of what he was like in Blake’s relationships over the course of two whole Volumes as well as a bulk of Volume 3. The bad boy anti-hero characterization was taken as a given without considering what could he really be revealed as later. We all marinated in it without and evidence to the contrary until… Chapter 11 dropped.
Suddenly, the troubled bad boy was revealed an abusive bad boy who Blake left not just because he was bad for the White Fang but also bad for her. It cut through all of those headcanons and fanworks built around the personality we had invented for him. In a way, we had fallen in love with who we thought he was and didn’t see who he really was not unlike how Blake had with Adam.
Subverting expectations has become something fandoms are rallying against with stories setting up clear-cut endpoints only to swerve into the other direction almost haphazardly. The thing with Adam though is… we created those expectations ourselves. We interpreted him as a brooding bad boy to be redeemed later. We indulged in all of those fanwork that expected just that.
Don’t take this as a rally against fanon or headcanons. The best part of any given fandom is the derivative works that spring from their tickled imagination. From fanart that is gorgeous to look at to fanfiction that could be literary contenders, these are the bread and butter of any fan base. RWBY would be dead in the water if not for these aspects like literally any other popular media.
However, there’s an unwillingness to part ways with fanon after canon suddenly slices it to ribbons. It’s personal to the fandom at large and practically felt canon until… it didn’t. Furthermore, there’s a huge desire to not be wrong full stop in your interpretation of a character or plot point. On Social Media, it can feel like you just made an ass out of yourself like being naked in a classroom.
Yet that’s just the risk we take with indulging in fandoms. We can’t help it even if we tried. However, when canon comes around to debunk it, well, ask yourself if you’re really mad about the writing or at forgetting that fanon was destined to be temporary. There’s a difference between things that one infers from the text until we get specifications and the text flat out spelling it all out in neon letters.
No, he is a mentor.
I'm not reading all of that
@Rebecca MCLOONE Because it's too long.
@@Zarozian she said "I had a partner" right before that. Also mentor relationships especially ones where the mentor and "student" are of similar age can turn romantic. Also do you really think Blake would be comfortable with saying yeah my exboyfriend turned crazy to her friends as she was still getting to know them?
For me, the problem is the lack of screentime. Mercury and Emerald both have more time just from Volumes 2 and 3 than Adam has in the entire show, and he is supposed to be a big bad. I mean, he becomes the head of the White Fang, he is the face of the attack against Beacon and Vale, one-shots Yang’s arm off, like, he’s comparable to Cinder as a boss-level villain. And the henchmen have more screentime and on-screen development than he does. And even all the other big bads get more screentime in Volumes 4-6 than Adam. Considering the buildup of importance he had leading up to his attack on Beacon, the close relationship he had with Blake, and the effect of his victory and attack had on Blake and Yang, the lack of attention on him is very disappointing.
Adam had the best weapon in my opinion. And the fighting style to compliment it. And cmon the sheath is a gun how isn’t that cool.
y'all ever think about how the adam _short_ is longer than the early episodes
What the name of the High Leader? I love her! She's beautiful~ Her look, her eyes, her piercings, her tattoos, the colors she wears! Such a cool design! So sad she got killed in her first appearance :(
She is named Sienna Khan
Tattoo? Those are natural traits alluding to her faunus heritage which I believe was specified her being part Bengal tiger
@@edrianalon5484 Nah, those are tattoos. She has tiger ears. They can only have one trait.
Huh really? Caus the look to finely detailed to be tattooed to me
4:23 vergil mode activated
Maybe if they released this, Adam is still alive? I really hope he doesn't stay a villain and die off with wasted potential (unless rooster teeth is really letting him get wasted). I play Cross Tag Battle (has playable RWBY characters in it) and the announcer announces Adam in the Character Select menu (in hidden sound files). So, i still have hope of his return.
This was reuploaded from before volume 6 released
4:46
Guy- “so we stop shooting them at their most vulnerable cause plot”
Girl- “yea just make sure you dont hit them”
10/10 security
Lol we forgot to put the villains characterization in the actual show so here you guys go.
When you realize this has around half of Sienna's screentime.
Realistically if it wasn’t for sienna stepping in by calling Adam a hero things might have turned out differently
6:33
This part was after his fight with Black and Yang
Roosterteeth left his story open ended for us to fill in