@@TerpsMatterPodcast he took over for Zubin on the 6am radio show so instead of Keyshawn JWill and Zubin, it’s Keyshawn, Jwill and Max I will say he does look very relaxed doing this show
I mean Will is completely right about SAS, anytime someone disagrees with him in the slightest he figures out some way to demonize them and making the disagreement a moral issue and then tries to apply pressure to get the other person to lean his way. Its not debating its manipulation.
2024 revisited: Will Cain: GET ME TO FOX NEWS right NOW!!!!!!!! I HATE you liberals how dare the Warriors not visit my fuhrer at the White House!!! Oh I mean President Trump. F**k Will Cain then, F**K WILL CAIN even harder TODAY!
The more I watch videos like these the more I start to believe that debates are the biggest waste of breath. There is hardly ever a time where someone is able to convince the opposite party that their opinion is correct. You are just going to keep going back and forth and never come to an agreement…
Debates are for actual intellectuals. Unfortunately TV only allows morons with little understanding of the subject to actually have these debates. Idiots who only want to win and are so used to their echo chambers or are too in love with the sound of their own voice that they cannot fathom someone disagreeing with them, while being so emotional that they fly off the handle the second someone doesn't just agree wholeheartedly. Don't listen to clueless idiots have debates. Seak real intellectuals who are very well informed on the subject and listen to them debate. Not bogus modern day professors either. But really knowledgeable people who do not see everything through the visor of their political beliefs. Different at the best of times, getting harder and harder each year. But they are out there and you can learn so much from them. Don't let TV personalities put you off the value of debating.
Well yes, but also I believe if it was just Will Cain and Max, it would be a true debate. Will Cain, although i dont entirely agree with his politics, is a pretty smart dude. Max is also intelligent as well. I dont quite know if they would be open minded enough to consider each others view points, but just from what I would see from both of them, they would be a good duo to have some real indepth debates.
@@Bobby.2000love that opening line. So true. Only morons think they are always right and true intellectuals think they don’t have all the answers and are willing to learn. Well said
Exactly man. sports debating is pretty much be called "Heavy opinionated discussions" only debating that should probably only matter is in politics where you have to objectively convince people to vote for them im office etc.
You had the choice of all the possible reductive takes on this topic, and you chose "convenience over consistency". I don't think you understand this issue on even a surface level. Let alone a deep level.
This entire segment is so hilarious and awkward because they’re all tip toeing around the subject without specifying Trump, and specifically why KD doesn’t wanna go to the office, etc. We all know what their talking about though
What subject are they tip toeing around? It seems they want to talk about Donald trump in some way but I can no figure out what exactly they are referencing
@@MrJockerson just generally how Trump was viewed by the public as a leader and they are a sports show so they knew they can't get 100% into the politics KD was very outspoken about not liking Trump but they can't just straight up start saying that on the show The only thing I got out of this was that Will is def a Republican and was trying hard to not get to that conversation with them, at least on air lol
Yooo I agree you not wrong at all. We can say all we want about will Cain but the guy brought it every debate he didn't give a damn what anyone says he told it like it is no sugar coating anything. He would take on all people at the same time
I don't know what you mean. I do know he is doing other things now with less success (albeit possibly more lucratively). I also know it was SAS and FT that got him a lot of national attention. Your point here is unclear to me.
@@macaltime2 Short-bus shorty, over here, huh? I don't know that he makes more money. I said "possibly" for a reason. Also, money isn't the only marker for success. Access, screen time, name recognition, and multiple other factors account for your overall success and longevity.
SAS rebuttals only proved Will Cain's points. Don't forget SAS even walked off the set the time he disagreed with Skip. On Max's last show he was forcing him to admit he was wrong about the Brady cliff. They have been trying to prove themselves right more than they've been trying to talk about sports.
i think a lot of what happens on the show (like the walking out) is for comedic affect and to boost the ratings so idk if i could hold it too much against him but what was said here definitely felt real
1. Skip was trying to compare Tim Tebow to Kobe Bryant, any rational person would give up and walk away from that conversation 2. It was clearly a walk-off done for comedic effect and not serious
Stephen A does think he is the sports God though. If anyone thinks something other than what he says, he suddenly thinks that they are wrong because he’s the one that’s always right. Hard to watch him think he’s this genius when there are so many times where what he says is wrong. Getting information from the primary source and saying it on the show is the only time he’s close to being right, but when making predictions and decisions, he is the worst.
@@jasonshonhiwa2033 Stephen A is the type of person who thinks yelling makes youre argument more convincing when it actually weakens it..typical of a liberal with no daddy in their life
Max ethered him, Will wants to let people be hateful/racist and for that to not be considered immoral, Max eloquently pointed out that in some cases there is a clear line of morality. Will Cain would have defended slavery if he was brought up in those times, Max would have fought to end slavery.
No they let him go because at the time all he wanted to do was involve his political beliefs in everything. He was a hard core Trump supporter and started to act like he was on Fox News supporting his racist, lying dictator wannabe! He was a horrible sports analyst. Thats the facts! There is more to the story than this 5 minute clip.
I remember watching this live and thinking “This was a long time coming”. These 3 debating was electric and I knew Will Cain was gonna lose his shit sooner or later lol.
Mannnnnnnn I’ve grown so much since this 4 years later I was so against Will back then but I’ll admit I was ignorant as hell and he was right Max and Stephen A was wrong and Will was also correct and pointing out their flaws.. anything they don’t agree with they will say is wrong or immoral or they will attack that person personally Stephen A did that Kyrie and the vaccination for example
Always gotta appreciate someone who’s willing to be more open minded and understanding. Will was arguing for freedom, Max and Stephen whether they liked it or not were on the opposite side and just like they all do, they used the bs “moral high ground” to defend it.
@@mohamad4257 Idk but i inferred that Will was annoyed about how people demonize the side they are against. Tired of the left vs right dichotomy. So he went in and accused Stephen A and Max for doing that. Taking some moral high ground and not listening to the other side at all. Which is like straight up questioning their integrity LOL so shit got heated.
@oo70mar I don't think it's a matter of it being a correct instance of demonizing, but rather that the act of the demonizing when employed it is done in a way that is not entirely objective. You can condemn something that is blatantly wrong, but it should be done so without using jargon that just straight up alienates and clowns on the opposing side. That is dangerous and as far as I understand it goes against principles of journalism that many hold as sacrosanct. To avoid this you have to present facts as objectively as possible. Or else the problem arises. (edit: but it is super ironic how Will brings up this problem in a way that is doing the stuff he says is bad LOL. The discussion is definitely a nuanced one. We gotta be patient with each other and eventually we will evolve past this I guess)
@oo70mar it’s a dumb point. It’s not as simple as a “clear moral decision” as max himself described it as. Trump had the largest colored vote of any republican in the last 40 years. He’s taking a racial ground to make his “clear moral” stance when obviously he broke a steep racial voting barrier and created an extremely loyal fan base amongst those.
@oo70mar first of all proud boys was partially created by a Mexican and black dude. They also got a bunch of Samoans and Hawaiians that run around like henchmen for them 😭it’s majority white dudes but that’s all of America about 65% of it actually 🤣 you should really research these things. I’m Mexican buddy you can’t ignore the fact that his base was diverse. To anyone without a mere surface scratching perspective it was obvious that he spoke in layman’s slang.
Three grown men arguing about some guy who plays basketball that won’t visit the White House? This is probably more entertaining than actually watching an NBA game though.
Will just cried and made a scene just to make a scene because someone offended his daddy by saying he didn’t like him. Clown. Bonafide clown. It’s also hilarious that he also deflects from the “moral” argument after Max dished it back. Crumbled!
damn, lotta respect for will cain after watching this. I didn't know he had this type of talent to articulate his points so effectively and consistently while being yelled at by two people on national television. Not to mention he was right.
EVERYONE: let’s SAS speak with out interrupting SAS: interrupts everyone anytime he wants smh 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ If I were Max, I’d happily walk away from that loud-mouthed idiot too. Besides, Max’s new show is already so much better than FT. They have actual adult conversations.
Max probably looking back at this now and saying damn I was on the wrong side the entire time because Stephen A got rid of him basically for disagreeing with him smh
Clicked on this just so I can see the days when First Take had Max and was actually worth watching...... =( We miss you, Max. Shit just ain't the same these days.
This is an ignorant statement. Both brought out points and SAS actually calmed the argument despite the base on his voice which seems to make him unintelligent to you.
@@TB-wm1hv you don't necessarily need to be in a certain college to be educated...most of the "billionaire" who are I'm charge in big marketing are just high school educated. You missing the point of the reasons and fundamentals of being schooled.
Will did this while also being handicapped by the network he was on... You could tell he wanted to go so much further but couldn't because ESPN would have cancelled him 5 minutes after the episode...
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No
What is it with trump lovers being the most weak, pathetic, annoying degenerates on the planet?
Everything he saying about Steven A is exactly how he ended up doing Max down the line when Max challenge him he got him fired
No cap i thought i was the only won who seen
I thought Max left because he got his own show?
@@Dlord1PlayStation sure that's what it was 😉
@@TerpsMatterPodcast he took over for Zubin on the 6am radio show so instead of Keyshawn JWill and Zubin, it’s Keyshawn, Jwill and Max
I will say he does look very relaxed doing this show
@@Dlord1PlayStation no stephen a got him removed from the show and since he's still under contract, they just swapped him for the morning show.
This is Will’s Fox News audition tape- and he got that bag…
Audition tape! 😂😂😂😂
He aint lying. I was surprised to see him on Fox. I stopped everything and said hey you aint foolin me, no amount of extra make up can hide that face.
Hahaha! Love it
Was thinking this is what got him the job there
😂😂😂😂😂🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Can we just have a episode where they are allowed to throw hands?
Will Cain would get folded. 😂
@@taylormuckler7468 yeah right. My money 💰 is on will Cain. A couple of shots stephen will be put to sleep. Max is more beta than Stephen.
@@theoldpaths9907 on god Will Cain getting folded like a lawn chair. Cope
Molly getting bitch slap no cap😂😂
😂😂😂all you'd hear is (ppppppp...pppp.mothaf..ppp..this my show..ppppppppppfffff...that my woman...pffffffuck......MAX! PPFFFFFF😂😂😂😂😂
I mean Will is completely right about SAS, anytime someone disagrees with him in the slightest he figures out some way to demonize them and making the disagreement a moral issue and then tries to apply pressure to get the other person to lean his way. Its not debating its manipulation.
He was mostly referring to Max. This wasn’t the first time. Politically, Will and Max are polar opposites.
Some would argue manipulation and debates are 2 sides of the same coin. And maybe they are, i dunno
faxs
Disagree with Stephen A and ya job on the line😂🤦🏾♂️
Will cain accurately represented them both as well as most leftists and activists
“Everyone says it’s not political when they don’t believe there is another side to their opinion”
Exactly
This is what happens when you mix politics and sports.
Facts!!!!!!! Get that crap out of sports!!
Exactly lol they cut each other off more than Molly does 😂😂😂
Right will.Cain was a Fox News recruit the whole time..
So sick of it
Politicians should keep their nose out of sports
LMAOOO MAX AND STEPHEN A ON A SIDE FOR ONCE
Jumping bro and shit
Like Tom & Jerry when they occasionally put their beef on hold to defeat their sometimes mutual adversary, Spike the Bulldog
@@mobetta2092 they do that with everybody but spike. Spike is Jerry bodyguard half the time
They agree on the GOAT debate
New Yorkers stick together
Max turned to Stephen A lawyer right away 😂
“Total bs”
Max get outta here 😂😂😂😂😂
@@on1ydotb "none of that occurred ".. "Total BS" lmaooo
Yet max accuses Stephen A of the exact same thing hes been saying this whole time. Complete hypocrite.
😂😂😂😂😂
Now Steven A is on his podcast saying he will never vote for Biden and is considering Trump lol. Oh how things have changed
Political debates destroy friendships and destroy professional relationships.
Although I never agreed with all of Will Cain’s takes, I LOVED the fact that he never let Stephen A punk him, like Max does.
Lmao he almost cried
@@luffymonkey9552 SAS always crying…racism
@@TheSleepReaper tf does that have do with will crying foreals??
@@luffymonkey9552 figure it out u child
@@TheSleepReaper lol sure u little dog
Looking back at it, Cain would've drove ratings like crazy.
He was the perfect antagonist to both Stephen A AND Max, first take fumbled the bag
I agree, I often said Stephen partner should have been Will
He was more interested in soccer and hockey and other sports First Take would never cover.
@@Kevon420 Will Cain wasn’t interest in soccer at all. He thought Real Madrid and Barcelona were the same team at one point…
That’s true . He would’ve been perfect with Stephen A.
He went in balls deep. What he said was uncomfortable but it was true.
Nah
BBB yeah he took the rubber off and they where forced to respect it
Runningbull 😂😭 nobody respected it then he ran to Fox News to where he can be around biased opinion you people are so dumb
@@kennethevans4555 acting like y’all liberals don’t do that with CNN. Get the fuck out of here
@yo pierre what do conmen ass conservatives do for black people? lol I dare you to post actual facts 🤡🤡
lol ESPN tried their best to hide this clip, just now seeing this
2024 revisited: Will Cain: GET ME TO FOX NEWS right NOW!!!!!!!! I HATE you liberals how dare the Warriors not visit my fuhrer at the White House!!! Oh I mean President Trump. F**k Will Cain then, F**K WILL CAIN even harder TODAY!
The more I watch videos like these the more I start to believe that debates are the biggest waste of breath. There is hardly ever a time where someone is able to convince the opposite party that their opinion is correct. You are just going to keep going back and forth and never come to an agreement…
Debates are for actual intellectuals. Unfortunately TV only allows morons with little understanding of the subject to actually have these debates. Idiots who only want to win and are so used to their echo chambers or are too in love with the sound of their own voice that they cannot fathom someone disagreeing with them, while being so emotional that they fly off the handle the second someone doesn't just agree wholeheartedly. Don't listen to clueless idiots have debates. Seak real intellectuals who are very well informed on the subject and listen to them debate. Not bogus modern day professors either. But really knowledgeable people who do not see everything through the visor of their political beliefs. Different at the best of times, getting harder and harder each year. But they are out there and you can learn so much from them. Don't let TV personalities put you off the value of debating.
Well yes, but also I believe if it was just Will Cain and Max, it would be a true debate. Will Cain, although i dont entirely agree with his politics, is a pretty smart dude. Max is also intelligent as well. I dont quite know if they would be open minded enough to consider each others view points, but just from what I would see from both of them, they would be a good duo to have some real indepth debates.
@@Bobby.2000love that opening line. So true. Only morons think they are always right and true intellectuals think they don’t have all the answers and are willing to learn. Well said
True but it’s entertaining that’s why it’s on TV and it’s been on TV for years lol
Exactly man. sports debating is pretty much be called "Heavy opinionated discussions"
only debating that should probably only matter is in politics where you have to objectively convince people to vote for them im office etc.
This aged very well. This is basically what our society has become. Convenience over consistency
Yep. Hence why you see certain mfs go on the streets for having to wear a mask at Burger King but not for healthcare or voting rights.
You had the choice of all the possible reductive takes on this topic, and you chose "convenience over consistency". I don't think you understand this issue on even a surface level. Let alone a deep level.
This entire segment is so hilarious and awkward because they’re all tip toeing around the subject without specifying Trump, and specifically why KD doesn’t wanna go to the office, etc. We all know what their talking about though
What subject are they tip toeing around? It seems they want to talk about Donald trump in some way but I can no figure out what exactly they are referencing
@@MrJockerson just generally how Trump was viewed by the public as a leader and they are a sports show so they knew they can't get 100% into the politics
KD was very outspoken about not liking Trump but they can't just straight up start saying that on the show
The only thing I got out of this was that Will is def a Republican and was trying hard to not get to that conversation with them, at least on air lol
@@매트-o6q ur a dummy when do these sports shows not talk about politics
@@liberaltears9192 Well this was a few years ago before all that woke BS started on ESPN.
@@chriscothron3606 Woke B.S started on ESPN before Trump lol
Will Cain on FT was entertaining can’t lie about that guys 😭😭😭
Yooo I agree you not wrong at all. We can say all we want about will Cain but the guy brought it every debate he didn't give a damn what anyone says he told it like it is no sugar coating anything. He would take on all people at the same time
@@mado3623 his passion was present everyday and he kept it real wth Max and SAS every segment
Will Cain was the only substitute that I've ever cared to watch on First Take.
Nah he wasn’t funny at all, he’s just like that kid that was obsessed debate class in high school.
No he wasn't getting rid of Will Cain was best decision
Will could have gone even farther but he didn't because we all know what would have happened if he did.
I don't know what you mean. I do know he is doing other things now with less success (albeit possibly more lucratively). I also know it was SAS and FT that got him a lot of national attention. Your point here is unclear to me.
Well he's a an ignorant racist sooooooo
Will was a real one
@@cameronno6039 less success? But more money.... interesting, please go back to school cause your point is very incoherent
@@macaltime2 Short-bus shorty, over here, huh? I don't know that he makes more money. I said "possibly" for a reason. Also, money isn't the only marker for success. Access, screen time, name recognition, and multiple other factors account for your overall success and longevity.
SAS rebuttals only proved Will Cain's points. Don't forget SAS even walked off the set the time he disagreed with Skip. On Max's last show he was forcing him to admit he was wrong about the Brady cliff. They have been trying to prove themselves right more than they've been trying to talk about sports.
You sound dumb, it’s all for entertainment. It was a joke cause skip said some dumb shit. That’s why he’s as big as he is now
Bit of a strech
i think a lot of what happens on the show (like the walking out) is for comedic affect and to boost the ratings so idk if i could hold it too much against him but what was said here definitely felt real
1. Skip was trying to compare Tim Tebow to Kobe Bryant, any rational person would give up and walk away from that conversation
2. It was clearly a walk-off done for comedic effect and not serious
This episode was gold and I literally thought Will Cain was about to leave the set and say fuck yall.
Probably did
Yep
He essentially did. He moved to fox news shortly after
Stephen A does think he is the sports God though. If anyone thinks something other than what he says, he suddenly thinks that they are wrong because he’s the one that’s always right. Hard to watch him think he’s this genius when there are so many times where what he says is wrong. Getting information from the primary source and saying it on the show is the only time he’s close to being right, but when making predictions and decisions, he is the worst.
Say what you want That nigga could make u look like a fool without knowin u brodie ain’t gone hold you😭
@@jasonshonhiwa2033 he makes himself look like a fool get off Stephen A’s nuts bro
@@jasonshonhiwa2033 Stephen A is the type of person who thinks yelling makes youre argument more convincing when it actually weakens it..typical of a liberal with no daddy in their life
The Joe Rogan roast was pretty funny.
Stephan A was that one kid in grade school who said timeout before tagging him
Or cried when his momma slapped him for coming out as gay
6:05 Max was so fired up his hand was ruthlessly trembling 😂😂
Love his deer in headlights blinkers
Max ethered him, Will wants to let people be hateful/racist and for that to not be considered immoral, Max eloquently pointed out that in some cases there is a clear line of morality. Will Cain would have defended slavery if he was brought up in those times, Max would have fought to end slavery.
Hold on wait!! Wait! Wait! No no no!! 😂😂
This was just a normal guy arguing with 2 NPCs about "Orange Man Bad."
"Peacocking on TV" lol! funny!
Will Cain ain’t been on the show since lmao
He work at a news network now I forgot which one
@@jbtreshawn You Know Which 1
Cnn
He's On Fox News
He was a couple of times. Maybe 4 times then that was it
This show hasn’t been the same since skip left
man we definitely don't need skip with all his nonsense and hating self
You right, it’s been better.
@@joshDifferent25 unbelievable cap
@@TheMegatron673 he was hating because he spoke the truth??? 🤣🤦♂️
Skip moved on to a better show
To think max would always defend Stephen A. Smith just so he can turn on him
Do you know what they're talking about?
Classic white liberal
@@DTB1995 shut up
That’s what happens when you cater to the mob! “Go woke, ya go broke.”
molly chiming in the whole time is crazy💀💀💀
They let Will go because he was fearless and was unafrarid speaking his mind
actually, you should be afraid to speak your mind if you're a racist scumbag
Fact
No they let him go because at the time all he wanted to do was involve his political beliefs in everything. He was a hard core Trump supporter and started to act like he was on Fox News supporting his racist, lying dictator wannabe! He was a horrible sports analyst. Thats the facts! There is more to the story than this 5 minute clip.
Actually will left then joined Fox to do his show now. His ratings where going down and has only appealing to certain demographic.
I remember watching this live and thinking “This was a long time coming”. These 3 debating was electric and I knew Will Cain was gonna lose his shit sooner or later lol.
because he is right 100%
@@TheLegend-qj7wh no.
@@akilanratnam1499 yep
Yep
Will Cain was holding that in for a minute.
Dude I remember watching this episode and I got scared because they really seemed to be mad at one another.
Nobody leaves These segments unscathed. I live for this stuff
Scared of grown men having a heated debate?
Why the hell were you scared?
@@wintersouljah8437 I thought they were going to say some things you're not supposed to say on TV...
@@kengy1991 I wouldn’t even have responded 😂 common sense lol
Will Cain read this man to filth 😅 Will and Max were way smarter then Stephan A. And he knew it.
Stephen A half way through is like “what in the hell are we debating on FS1 right now ”😂
1v2 and he held his own
Good one
Yeah ok. Lol
yea fucking right
Plus some
All he did was yell the entire time lol you people are delusional
2:43 Molly of all people 🤣
Actual trash 2278 she’s the last one that can say that 😭😭
😭😭😭😭😭😭
Exactly, I was like “she got her nerve” 😂😂
I was ready for one of them to her to shut up 💀💀💀
OMG LMAO!
shocking Will is now a part of FOX news fitting in perfectly
FACT
Cause he is an alpha boss and makes sense.. better than commi news network for sure..
@@petermorcombe8344 def not Alpha 😂😂😂
@@geezyeskabante disagree but youre entitled to your opinion.
@@petermorcombe8344 commie*
Kellerman looks like he got slapped away from the table for farting.
Will Cain absolutely destroyed both SAS and Max!!!!!!
I’m so very happy that Will left ESPN.
Max Kellerman having his future predicted before he could see it 😭
Can You explain?
@@Baby-zu5gi Stephen A proved wills point right because he did exactly what will described they do and got Max fired from First Take
I agree with will 100% people need to work together and listen to eachother’s opinions and not get offended by every little disagreement.
As long as the word God isn't involved I agree
@@cachanilla3839 so random but ok
@@cat740dt yeah maybe I need to put more thought into my comments. Happy new years.
2 late....welcome to the cancel culture era 🤦🏽♂️
frfr literally if you bring socialism everybody just screams at you and calls you a communist
None of them are sports analysts, they literally just debate sports for entertainment lol
Mannnnnnnn I’ve grown so much since this 4 years later
I was so against Will back then but I’ll admit I was ignorant as hell and he was right
Max and Stephen A was wrong and Will was also correct and pointing out their flaws.. anything they don’t agree with they will say is wrong or immoral or they will attack that person personally
Stephen A did that Kyrie and the vaccination for example
💯💯💯💯
@Musical Box Why?
Always gotta appreciate someone who’s willing to be more open minded and understanding. Will was arguing for freedom, Max and Stephen whether they liked it or not were on the opposite side and just like they all do, they used the bs “moral high ground” to defend it.
The guy in the middle is completely right. Max and Stephen get sooo mad when someone disagrees with them.
I think its all an act tbh
They wasn’t even mad💯y’all are delusional 💯
@@mauriuntayhenderson8269 what they don't get it's a debate show
@Ric flair bruh wtf is you talking about 💀what the hell biden gotta do with this 💯💀and plus I voted for Trump not Biden 💀
Will was more mad then all of them
😂😂😂 We knew Will was auditioning for FoxNews back then
Fox news is terrible but thrive when idiots on the left loose audience.
Stephen A can’t stand being called out, he’s a hypocrite
Will looked like he wanted to say the N word to win the argument lol
Holy shit. I've never seen this. I love this guy. He makes it even more painful to listen to Stephen A than Max does.
I love Max, but if Max was anything like Will Cain, SaS wouldnt have clowned on him as long as he did.
Max Kellerman blinks 600 times per minute
U know u in trouble when both Steven A Smith and Max Kellerman disagree with u @ the same time
Not really in trouble, more like a comedy
@@joshhutchins5961 😂
Not when regarding politics..theyre both liberals and Will is conservative so thats why
what did you do with all the time you saved writing "@" instead of "at"
Yeah you know you’re in trouble when the cucks circle jerk each other non stop
There’s never gonna b another passionate debate like these on the new version of First Take anymore 😂 lol
Will made Max look like a little kid lmao 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Lol when Max couldn't even get a word in at the end 🤣
Max was heated at the end tho
Can u explain what’s happening. I’m still confused?
@@mohamad4257 Idk but i inferred that Will was annoyed about how people demonize the side they are against. Tired of the left vs right dichotomy. So he went in and accused Stephen A and Max for doing that. Taking some moral high ground and not listening to the other side at all. Which is like straight up questioning their integrity LOL so shit got heated.
@oo70mar I don't think it's a matter of it being a correct instance of demonizing, but rather that the act of the demonizing when employed it is done in a way that is not entirely objective. You can condemn something that is blatantly wrong, but it should be done so without using jargon that just straight up alienates and clowns on the opposing side. That is dangerous and as far as I understand it goes against principles of journalism that many hold as sacrosanct. To avoid this you have to present facts as objectively as possible. Or else the problem arises. (edit: but it is super ironic how Will brings up this problem in a way that is doing the stuff he says is bad LOL. The discussion is definitely a nuanced one. We gotta be patient with each other and eventually we will evolve past this I guess)
@oo70mar it’s a dumb point. It’s not as simple as a “clear moral decision” as max himself described it as. Trump had the largest colored vote of any republican in the last 40 years. He’s taking a racial ground to make his “clear moral” stance when obviously he broke a steep racial voting barrier and created an extremely loyal fan base amongst those.
@oo70mar first of all proud boys was partially created by a Mexican and black dude. They also got a bunch of Samoans and Hawaiians that run around like henchmen for them 😭it’s majority white dudes but that’s all of America about 65% of it actually 🤣 you should really research these things. I’m Mexican buddy you can’t ignore the fact that his base was diverse. To anyone without a mere surface scratching perspective it was obvious that he spoke in layman’s slang.
Dude on the right looked like he was gonna cry the whole time then wanted to fight to the death
You know his name. Stop being disrespectful
respect for will for speaking his truth without any fear of backlash
“MAXXXXX GET OUT OF HERE!!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol this why they say keep politics private at work 😂😂
Bro imagine these same guys arguing in 2022 omg 😂😂
Three grown men arguing about some guy who plays basketball that won’t visit the White House? This is probably more entertaining than actually watching an NBA game though.
Your not a sports fan. Stay in politics we don't care weirdo😅😅
Sports >>>>>> politics
It's called debating & people love it. Welcome to the world buddy
It’s their job u idiot
They get paid a lot of money to do this though… it sounds stupid until you add in that part you conveniently left out.
Hindsight, these fools are actors.
Will is angry because KD don't wanna visit his cult leader Trump 🧐
I thought he was on his period, dude seriously needed to change his tampon
That jump back Max did when Molly said “can you guys stop interrupting each other?!” Did me in 😂😂😂
He literally didnt even move
Didn’t even move 🤣🤣
Did not move even a bit😂🤣
😂😂😂😂😂 facts
He didn’t even move ? what…..
Will cain banging wit dat tie on 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
He actually speaking out for Kevin Durant and supportin him
what? God bless
Every White guy who comes on is blacker than SAS
Will is talking in circles. He is a joke.
Will just cried and made a scene just to make a scene because someone offended his daddy by saying he didn’t like him.
Clown. Bonafide clown.
It’s also hilarious that he also deflects from the “moral” argument after Max dished it back. Crumbled!
damn, lotta respect for will cain after watching this. I didn't know he had this type of talent to articulate his points so effectively and consistently while being yelled at by two people on national television. Not to mention he was right.
Will Cain is a lawyer. So it should be expected for him to be able to hold and effectively argue either side. - Dude damn near cried though.
EVERYONE: let’s SAS speak with out interrupting
SAS: interrupts everyone anytime he wants smh 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ If I were Max, I’d happily walk away from that loud-mouthed idiot too. Besides, Max’s new show is already so much better than FT. They have actual adult conversations.
Dang… I don’t like Will Cain at all, but he was on point with this on every point
No he wasn’t 💯
@@mauriuntayhenderson8269 facts 😂
Lmao no he wasn’t
@@wavygaara lmao listen again
No he want idiot
Will was about to explode on Max 😭😭
I didn't know Will swung that way!
PAUSE
🤨📸
I don’t even know this middle guys name lmao 😂 who is this dude
Max probably looking back at this now and saying damn I was on the wrong side the entire time because Stephen A got rid of him basically for disagreeing with him smh
Nah max clearly was standing up for his beliefs
@@reedraikes7471 you missing the point, I’m saying everything he’s saying about Stephen A smith is how he ended up doing max later
Will Cain is like the little brother with a chip on his shoulder
No…he’s just the only one with some sense who is not driven by emotion.
@@jacobsumner8421 you do realize I was making a joke right?
@@quincyessibrah7433 oh okay. thats a joke? wasn't funny.
@@jacobsumner8421 to you
@@jacobsumner8421 opinion, opinion.....
The guy in the middle is really done with Tyrone's shit.
Who's tyrone ?
@@_hulse Tyrone shoelace
They stressed bro tf out..he was drained lol “”moral choice for me max 😩”
Yessss! He was like, I can't with you idiots! Your comment cracked me _up!_
how has molly not been fired
This is the funniest shlt ever 😂😂
Will was holding his own against those 2 Stephen a and max honestly
If they woulda got up and started punching will i woulda started dying 💀😂
Clicked on this just so I can see the days when First Take had Max and was actually worth watching...... =( We miss you, Max. Shit just ain't the same these days.
True Stephen a being overrated asf. The 2 together was good. I'm not trying to watch perk and Stephen a
Stephen A has to have a proper foil. Max was decent, but the best show was always him and Skip. Terrible analysis, great entertainment.
politics should not be talked about on sports shows. The only time it's ever talked about is if trump is president. FJB
I love heated arguments on these sports shows! Reminds me of my buddies and I talkin sports together lol it’s a part of the game
I love how max and Stephen team up on him 😂
This proves max is smarter than sas who just wants to shout and attention seek max actually debates with will
This is an ignorant statement. Both brought out points and SAS actually calmed the argument despite the base on his voice which seems to make him unintelligent to you.
Max went to Columbia and SAS went to .......
Max always been a smooth operator
@@TB-wm1hv you don't necessarily need to be in a certain college to be educated...most of the "billionaire" who are I'm charge in big marketing are just high school educated. You missing the point of the reasons and fundamentals of being schooled.
Will did this while also being handicapped by the network he was on... You could tell he wanted to go so much further but couldn't because ESPN would have cancelled him 5 minutes after the episode...
😊
In retrospect this was Wil Cains Fox News audition ❗️
Bruh i thought the same thing
Every time I have a bad shit I watch this to block the sound😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Cain was the only one who knew the real face of stphen A and wasnt afraid to step on his feet
“Between Sports Analysts…. & Stephen A Smith”😂😂😂😂😂
Max got exactly what he deserved for getting on his knees for SAS.
😆MOLLY!!! ACTUALLY HAD THE NERVE TO SAY - DON'T INTERRUPT 🙄😆😆😆😆🤬
4 topics that guarantee an argument: religion, politics, feminism and race.
And Brady sucks
Will was gone shoot everybody at work that day 😭😂😂😂😂
I knew Will was going to be off the show soon when he was tryna demoralize SAS points for saying Kobe was more clutch than Kawhi Leonard
Anybody in the NBA athletic enough to stand and respect the National Anthem?
Max face and his lil 2 cent remarks had me crying when will started 😂😂😂
I didn't realize it at the time but looking back on this, Will was such a baby.