Very well-written, and must have been fairly ground-breaking at the time. I'm glad they were on point with the direction and message of the episode though, and the long road ahead. Another stellar performance by the always watchable Darren McGavin. Thank you for making this available.
I Spy Michael Cole from "The Mod Squad", Pat Carroll from "Too Close For Comfort", and John Fielder (the voice of "Piglet")...This show always had such talented guest stars!📺📼📀📺📼📀
Now “Detective Kolchak is very serious and formal, as opposed to his usual animated self as “Reporter Kolchak”. Still wears a hat except this one isn’t made of straw. Imagine if he encountered himself and the dialogue between the “two Kolchaks”? That would be a real hoot!
"Maybe she's just trying to work out her own life... just like everybody else". Marcia Strassman had very long hair by the time she starred in "Welcome Back Kotter". All the gorgeous horses.
Even though my gramps & pop were cops all their lives, I only became a cop w/34 years 35 on September 30 of this year, but I wanted to be a cop just like Joseph Waumbach, the LAPD cop who wrote these, I actually saw him on a training in 1983 in LA . I watched every show when it started in the 70's, and I actually met Mr Waumbach, and shook his hand in 1983 . All my brothers & cousins also became cops.
Thanks for posting this story. I really like seeing tv stories and movies from the 1970s and early 1980s. I really liked how the older Det. Hallet was open-minded and tolerant. It was so sad that the younger Det. Baker was so homophobic.
Wendy M It's the early 1970's, that was the attitudes of the times before all of this bullshit political correctness has taken over America, does it bother you when you watch these 70's shows and they have a flippant attitude about prostitutes being killed?
@@chillwills5842: What trolls like you call "political correctness" is simply respecting anybody who's not white and male wants to call themselves. That's just being a decent human being. Old white guys are just pissed off because they can't get away with sexually harassing women any more, or call black or brown folks racist names.
kotters wife........kotter also played a cop in a episode....did this really happen in 70s,just asking cause Pachino did movie in 70s with same idea....Pachino undercover cop
Virginia Gregg & Barry Atwater were in the two Kolchak films (Night Strangler and Night Stalker) which appeared before this episode of Police Story. The first episode in the Kolchak series was 'The Ripper'.
@jeff lockaby Shame that the producers of Kolchak decided to make it a weekly series. Had they had three or four episodes a year ( Like Columbo, for example)....it would have lasted far, far longer. They could have developed the plots more in depth....
@jeff lockaby The frustrating thing, Jeff.....is that they had the people to pull it off like,as I mentioned, Columbo. I suppose pressure from the network to be a weekly show was the reason they went to that format.
Thanks for uploading this show. I have not seen it since I was a young kid maybe 10 years old. It was on at 9:00P.M. but I watched it in the Summer where I could stay up till 11:00 P.M. Cannot wait to see if the complete series get release on DVD!
Only a few years after the Stonewall riot (a RIOT shouldn't be held up as a proud moment for any just cause), this episode was exploring the concept of treating homosexuals as people, and as deserving of justice as anyone else. Things were changing for the better in 1973.
The riot had cultural significance. It was a defining moment when an oppressed minority said, "We're not gonna take it anymore." It's difficult to say things were changing for the better in 1973, just because of one TV episode. In December 1973, the American Psychiatric Association finally declared that homosexuality was not a mental defect. Important, yes, but I was in the Army at the time and I knew better than to share my sexual orientation with anyone. It was 2011 before gays could serve openly.
I was really pleasantly surprised that the show's writers didn't demonize all gays while still dealing with a gay murderer. LGBTQ people are just people, and we can be models, cops AND, sure a serial killer now-and-then. If I had been alive and in my teens, i'd have watched this with dedication and eagerness, and video taped it if VCRs would have been around in everybody's home. Representation matters, even if some of it is not flattering, though this was.
To Tank Stoner:You mentioned Virginia Gregg & Martin Milne of Adam 12 working for Jack Webb.Mr.Webb wasn't a fan of Joseph Wambaugh or any of his works.He blue penciled one his novels The New Centurions I believe.He also didn't like Hill Street Blues which ironically Mr.Wambaugh liked when I wrote to him on his thoughts about the show & the early release of Onion Field Killer Jimmy Lee Smith.
Never thought about, but you,re right. Wambaugh and hill street would show office politics in a multidimensional way. Webb towed the line as far as making his shows deal with"just the facts" Sorry for the obvious cliche. Bottom line I found something to enjoy in all of them.
To Eddie B:In another posting elsewhere I mentioned I have a longtime friend ex-LAPD Captain Paul Jefferson who told me the realistic cop shows in his opinion was Police Story & Hill Street Blues.As for Adam 12 he thought it was o.k.but he thought it lacked more humane elements of the job.I asked him to review the SWAT reboot knowing he wasn't going to like it but he told me he wasn't going to watch it knowing how unrealistic it was like the film & prior tv version was.My friend Captain Jefferson spent some time with the actual SWAT via the LAP'D's Metropolitan/Metro Unit.I have a picture of him in his SWAT gear.
@cmacmi 293==Thanks for this episode and the lady in blue at the begginning with DARREN McGAVIN is DARRENS REAL LIFE WIFE = MISS KATHIE BROWNE !!!! DARREN could be any charactor in films == con artist***detective***school teacher***dad***brother***he was KARNACK (a very bad villian) on a MAN FROM UNCLE episode and J TAGGERT (a wealthy businessman) on a MISSION:IMPOSSIBLE episode ****
This was an interesting Episode. Hey cmacmi, I have the Original Script of this Episode used by Selig (pinky) Frank. I'll be posting it soon & just thought you might be interested. 😉🖖
David Creelman a lot of actors and actresses on this show. Tony lo Bianco, don Meredith, Jimmy Brown, Dick butkus, Shani Wallace(Nancy from the movie Oliver), Len birman, Murray Hamilton, Dane Clark, and others.
Thanks for uploading this classic from 1973. It was powerful! Even though the one detective (McGavin) was modern in his thinking everytime that partner said "F*g" or those "F*gs" I cringed! Did people really talk that atrociously about LGBT people back then? I ask because I was only 5 when this episode and when I grew up in the 80's I heard the word thrown around here and there but more as a general insult in high school. Usually it was to cast aspersion on the perceived masculinity of one student against the other. I never heard a grown up throwing that word around like the cop does in this episode. I'm glad things have changed. I don't think I've heard anyone use the F-word in over 20 years now! :)
Anyway you slice it, it's a slur, whether used for it's original coining of a homosexual man (Brits can argue differently, of course, with the whole cigarette connection) or whether it was used later on as a more general, not necessarily anti-gay insult. It's not good in any form, and I don't defend it's use or condone it whatsoever, but there were definitely levels of severity when it came to the the word 'faggot' or 'fag'. Now, ironically, the most I hear that word is when it comes out the mouth of one of my gay male friends (I'm straight, although sexual orientation shouldn't matter in my opinion). Things have definitely changed, and this episode is quite overlooked when it comes to breakthrough television episodes of the past. Think of it, 'All In The Family' tackled so many controversial topics, including homosexuality, but this episode of 'Police Story' came before that amazing series.
do they really waste so many shots of film like that photographer. who is the actor at 46:09> really good looking. he was on Mary Tyler Moore as a priest mary mistakenly thought was interested in her and he was also on The GOlden Girls as Blanche's serious boyfriend but whom she gave up regretfully
Interesting! The woman who's husband was killed by the Ripper. ( She's the gal who slapped McGavin. ) She's the actress who was in that Star Trek episode where she was the daughter of that actor, who was once a terrible dictator of a planet.
Barbara Anderson (famous for being Ironside's assistant) was the daughter Leslie Parrish (the actress in this episode) was in TOS who mourns for adonis.
Hats off to the suits at NBC to take a risk like this.
Virginia Gregg! She always played a nosy old bat on every other episode of Dragnet
She was in everything!
Very well-written, and must have been fairly ground-breaking at the time. I'm glad they were on point with the direction and message of the episode though, and the long road ahead. Another stellar performance by the always watchable Darren McGavin. Thank you for making this available.
I Spy Michael Cole from "The Mod Squad", Pat Carroll from "Too Close For Comfort", and John Fielder (the voice of "Piglet")...This show always had such talented guest stars!📺📼📀📺📼📀
WOW!.. i thought about that show last night… hadnt for 20 years plus, and tonight i see this comment. Always loved the theme song especially😄
Thank you so much for this great flick in the 1970s ❤
Fantastic episode for its time, dealing with a subject that most productions shied away from at that time!
0:10 wow...
Ilove old school movies.
Thinking of Jack the Ripper in England good film nice to watch
VERY HIGH QUALITY PRINT ! THANKS!
Now “Detective Kolchak is very serious and formal, as opposed to his usual animated self as “Reporter Kolchak”. Still wears a hat except this one isn’t made of straw. Imagine if he encountered himself and the dialogue between the “two Kolchaks”? That would be a real hoot!
"Maybe she's just trying to work out her own life... just like everybody else".
Marcia Strassman had very long hair by the time she starred in "Welcome Back Kotter". All the gorgeous horses.
The flute sound of Barnaby Jones
This was such a great show. This episode was so well written too. I am definitely living in the wrong decade. 😢
Darren McGavin is a bit like James Stewart. You can watch ANYTHING with him in it and it's always good.
I agree with you 100%, He is a class act
Even though my gramps & pop were cops all their lives, I only became a cop w/34 years 35 on September 30 of this year, but I wanted to be a cop just like Joseph Waumbach, the LAPD cop who wrote these, I actually saw him on a training in 1983 in LA . I watched every show when it started in the 70's, and I actually met Mr Waumbach, and shook his hand in 1983 . All my brothers & cousins also became cops.
Jester Flight god bless the men and women who wear the badge.
Very cool, thanks for sharing. Stay safe out there, we appreciate your work.
Thanks for posting. Script pleasantly way ahead of its time
66KIMBLE great cop show.
This could almost be a NIGHT STALKER Episode.
Always a pleasure to see Darren McGavin & Kathie Browne. + Marcia Strassman & Leslie Parrish.
Can you see Kathie Brown as the mother in "Christmas Story"?
82Echo411 Gary walberg was the coroner. he was Lt. Monihan on Quincy and Speed on the odd couple. he good friends with Jack Klugman.
Thanks for posting this story. I really like seeing tv stories and movies from the 1970s and early 1980s. I really liked how the older Det. Hallet was open-minded and tolerant. It was so sad that the younger Det. Baker was so homophobic.
Wendy M It's the early 1970's, that was the attitudes of the times before all of this bullshit political correctness has taken over America, does it bother you when you watch these 70's shows and they have a flippant attitude about prostitutes being killed?
@@chillwills5842:
What trolls like you call "political correctness" is simply respecting anybody who's not white and male wants to call themselves. That's just being a decent human being. Old white guys are just pissed off because they can't get away with sexually harassing women any more, or call black or brown folks racist names.
good episode.
kotters wife........kotter also played a cop in a episode....did this really happen in 70s,just asking cause Pachino did movie in 70s with same idea....Pachino undercover cop
Virginia Gregg & Barry Atwater were in the two Kolchak films (Night Strangler and Night Stalker) which appeared before this episode of Police Story. The first episode in the Kolchak series was 'The Ripper'.
@jeff lockaby Shame that the producers of Kolchak decided to make it a weekly series. Had they had three or four episodes a year ( Like Columbo, for example)....it would have lasted far, far longer. They could have developed the plots more in depth....
@jeff lockaby The frustrating thing, Jeff.....is that they had the people to pull it off like,as I mentioned, Columbo. I suppose pressure from the network to be a weekly show was the reason they went to that format.
How Brown Jack the ripper in Los Angeles CA
THE NIGHT STRANGLER to me was a major disappointment after the fantastic THE NIGHT STALKER.
Thank You for posting this! I LOVE POLICE STORY!!
GUPPYKIWI show was based on actual cases of the Los Angeles police department.
Thanks for uploading this show. I have not seen it since I was a young kid maybe 10 years old. It was on at 9:00P.M. but I watched it in the Summer where I could stay up till 11:00 P.M.
Cannot wait to see if the complete series get release on DVD!
HW2800 Barnes and Noble or Amazon has DVD.
It's available now, but pricey!
Only a few years after the Stonewall riot (a RIOT shouldn't be held up as a proud moment for any just cause), this episode was exploring the concept of treating homosexuals as people, and as deserving of justice as anyone else. Things were changing for the better in 1973.
The riot had cultural significance. It was a defining moment when an oppressed minority said, "We're not gonna take it anymore." It's difficult to say things were changing for the better in 1973, just because of one TV episode. In December 1973, the American Psychiatric Association finally declared that homosexuality was not a mental defect. Important, yes, but I was in the Army at the time and I knew better than to share my sexual orientation with anyone. It was 2011 before gays could serve openly.
I thought this was Night Stalker at first...as some people upload under wrong titles.
Odd, McGavin's superior in this is Barry Atwater, the vampire he chased around in the original Night Stalker movie.
Karma.
deriter64 Carl kolchak is a cop. his wife is on the show.
Atwater wanted revenge.
I was surprised when McGavin's character used the word "homophobe". I didn't know that word existed back in 1974.
It didn't. Its a made-up word. For the "politically correct" crowd.
@@jessstone7211 All words are "made up" at some point. duh
@@davidgordon134Most likely.
I was really pleasantly surprised that the show's writers didn't demonize all gays while still dealing with a gay murderer. LGBTQ people are just people, and we can be models, cops AND, sure a serial killer now-and-then. If I had been alive and in my teens, i'd have watched this with dedication and eagerness, and video taped it if VCRs would have been around in everybody's home. Representation matters, even if some of it is not flattering, though this was.
Husband and Wife acting together.
That on camera scream in the first few seconds of this episode though!
"We are a fashion magazine. I assure you we don't hire cowboys." Hmmnn
...ahead of its time.
shihanUKS great police procedural series. based on cases of the Los Angeles police department.
I didn't think about till now,but Darren McGavin(RIP)and Tommy Lee Jones could pass for brothers.Both excellent actors though.
Sadly things worse today nearly 50 years later - look at the recent case of serial killer Stephen Port in the UK
To Tank Stoner:You mentioned Virginia Gregg & Martin Milne of Adam 12 working for Jack Webb.Mr.Webb wasn't a fan of Joseph Wambaugh or any of his works.He blue penciled one his novels The New Centurions I believe.He also didn't like Hill Street Blues which ironically Mr.Wambaugh liked when I wrote to him on his thoughts about the show & the early release of Onion Field Killer Jimmy Lee Smith.
Never thought about, but you,re right. Wambaugh and hill street would show office politics in a multidimensional way. Webb towed the line as far as making his shows deal with"just the facts"
Sorry for the obvious cliche. Bottom line I found something to enjoy in all of them.
To Eddie B:In another posting elsewhere I mentioned I have a longtime friend ex-LAPD Captain Paul Jefferson who told me the realistic cop shows in his opinion was Police Story & Hill Street Blues.As for Adam 12 he thought it was o.k.but he thought it lacked more humane elements of the job.I asked him to review the SWAT reboot knowing he wasn't going to like it but he told me he wasn't going to watch it knowing how unrealistic it was like the film & prior tv version was.My friend Captain Jefferson spent some time with the actual SWAT via the LAP'D's Metropolitan/Metro Unit.I have a picture of him in his SWAT gear.
To Tank Stoner:I meant to say Milner not Milne in my prior posting.Maybe they can re-boot this show as long as Mr.Wambaugh is still alive.
To Eddie B:Your point is well taken.
Lamont Burton dragnet was based on cases of the Los Angeles police department.
Barry Atwater and Darren Mcgavin crossed paths before..
@cmacmi 293==Thanks for this episode and the lady in blue at the begginning with DARREN McGAVIN is DARRENS REAL LIFE WIFE = MISS KATHIE BROWNE !!!! DARREN could be any charactor in films == con artist***detective***school teacher***dad***brother***he was KARNACK (a very bad villian) on a MAN FROM UNCLE episode and J TAGGERT (a wealthy businessman) on a MISSION:IMPOSSIBLE episode ****
Funny, That little, bald guy was Jack the Ripper in Star Trek. (John Fiedler)
He was also Lawyer J. Nobel Dagget in True Grit.
Redjac!
Rob Mackenzie he was on the Bob newhart show.
Never seen that movie "Twelve Angry Men"
I'll have to buy it then. Sounds good thanks.
This was an interesting Episode. Hey cmacmi, I have the Original Script of this Episode used by Selig (pinky) Frank. I'll be posting it soon & just thought you might be interested. 😉🖖
Fairly forward thinking for an episode made in 1974. The types still exist in the gay community today.
Rodion Rebenyar: The only difference is today they have become more acceptable which has made a safe haven for them.
Kolchak goes after the ripper, this time as a cop instead of a reporter for INS.
Mrs. Kotter, Lol, had to be one f her first roles !
McGavin Rocks!!!
Still laugh whenever I think of him saying "fra - gil - ey" when he looks at the box in "A Christmas Story".
This was how law and order svu got it's start
This episode from 1974 could have written this year
David Creelman a lot of actors and actresses on this show. Tony lo Bianco, don Meredith, Jimmy Brown, Dick butkus, Shani Wallace(Nancy from the movie Oliver), Len birman, Murray Hamilton, Dane Clark, and others.
Lt. Monahan doing Quincy's job.
Tyson Neil he was Oscar Madison poker buddy on the odd couple. they were good friends off screen. both of them passed away in 2012.
Has anyone notice that almost every TV show that Michael Cole was on, he's drunk?
Now that you've said that, l can't get it off my mind every time he's onscreen!😆
He had a serious problem with alcohol
i didnt notice. he wasnt on mod squad......was he?
@@jessiejames7492 yes.
That girl that was modeling with the glasses wasn't she from Welcome back Kotter she was Kotter's wife
Thanks for uploading this classic from 1973. It was powerful! Even though the one detective (McGavin) was modern in his thinking everytime that partner said "F*g" or those "F*gs" I cringed! Did people really talk that atrociously about LGBT people back then? I ask because I was only 5 when this episode and when I grew up in the 80's I heard the word thrown around here and there but more as a general insult in high school. Usually it was to cast aspersion on the perceived masculinity of one student against the other. I never heard a grown up throwing that word around like the cop does in this episode. I'm glad things have changed. I don't think I've heard anyone use the F-word in over 20 years now! :)
Don't defend it.
It's not like people don't do it now.
Anyway you slice it, it's a slur, whether used for it's original coining of a homosexual man (Brits can argue differently, of course, with the whole cigarette connection) or whether it was used later on as a more general, not necessarily anti-gay insult. It's not good in any form, and I don't defend it's use or condone it whatsoever, but there were definitely levels of severity when it came to the the word 'faggot' or 'fag'. Now, ironically, the most I hear that word is when it comes out the mouth of one of my gay male friends (I'm straight, although sexual orientation shouldn't matter in my opinion). Things have definitely changed, and this episode is quite overlooked when it comes to breakthrough television episodes of the past. Think of it, 'All In The Family' tackled so many controversial topics, including homosexuality, but this episode of 'Police Story' came before that amazing series.
Guess you've never seen a Bill Burr comedy special...or Dave Chappelle...
Por favor manda algo en español muchas gracias saludos atte Jorge Aravena
Virginia Gregg was another of Jack Webb's Stock Company to appear in 'Police Story'. Martin Milner appeared later on.
Tank Stoner they also had Len Waylon, Harry Bartel, Victor Perrin they all appeared on dragnet.
@@frankdenardo8684 I know two of them also were on Dragnet when it was on the radio.
Some of the scenes in this ep are about as radical and progressive as television ever became as a medium.
Not much of the medical examiners, compared to today’s standards, was he?
do they really waste so many shots of film like that photographer. who is the actor at 46:09> really good looking. he was on Mary Tyler Moore as a priest mary mistakenly thought was interested in her and he was also on The GOlden Girls as Blanche's serious boyfriend but whom she gave up regretfully
Interesting! The woman who's husband was killed by the Ripper. ( She's the gal who slapped McGavin. ) She's the actress who was in that Star Trek episode where she was the daughter of that actor, who was once a terrible dictator of a planet.
Leslie Parrish
Barbara Anderson (famous for being Ironside's assistant) was the daughter
Leslie Parrish (the actress in this episode) was in TOS who mourns for adonis.
@@JFBridge was also in The Manchurian Candidate.
was this before MOD SQUAD? Michael Cole's acting seems so deadpan
It was after Mod Squad.
+jessie james Mod Squad 1968/73. This was 73.
More poor lip sync. Too bad the sponsor of this video ruined it.
Liberty06 started this movement all the credit belongs to her!
utube made giant pictures with tiny writing how stupid