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  • @JoelSyverud
    @JoelSyverud 3 месяца назад +365

    Bibi hasn’t “lost his way”, he’s been remarkably consistent in his fascism for literal decades…

  • @spikespike1332
    @spikespike1332 3 месяца назад +335

    Why should the Palestinian pay for the crime of Germany why do the Palestinian don't have the right to exist on their land ..

    • @lewislee9201
      @lewislee9201 3 месяца назад

      They are paying for the crimes of Hamas, whom they supported up to the hilt, just like the Germans supported the Nazis.

    • @fredflinstone6601
      @fredflinstone6601 3 месяца назад +1

      Look up the Haavara agreement and see what germany did for them

    • @JapanSapport
      @JapanSapport 3 месяца назад

      Well talked

    • @JapanSapport
      @JapanSapport 3 месяца назад +14

      Why not talking about , why Israel demolished all most gaza strio , hospital , university, school what is that killing Palestine culture more then Palestinian , it look all is pre determined

    • @pakese30
      @pakese30 3 месяца назад +4

      @quenky1they shouldn’t be!

  • @rainfallenonmyshoes8471
    @rainfallenonmyshoes8471 3 месяца назад +599

    the country that commemorates a holocaust... now committing a holocaust. How disgustingly ironic.

    • @Coops5361
      @Coops5361 3 месяца назад +63

      The abused become the abusers

    • @rainfallenonmyshoes8471
      @rainfallenonmyshoes8471 3 месяца назад +23

      @@Coops5361 yup. you're right.

    • @carpediem5232
      @carpediem5232 3 месяца назад

      It isn't yet committing "a holocaust". There is still a difference. But the rhetoric they are using is on the way there. Calling it a holocaust now isn't helpful. Just stating what they are doing is bad enough.
      If you want to make the argument, then point to the dehumanization that is going on and how a people that were dehumanized for such a long time and such a degree less than 100 years ago, can turn to dehumanize others that way, but the actions of the holocaust are not yet being repeated and to claim that they are will close off more people, than you will convince of it.

    • @Coops5361
      @Coops5361 3 месяца назад +31

      @@rainfallenonmyshoes8471 it's so depressing, isn't it. Yet I try to remind myself that not all abused people, communities, countries etc, end up following this egregious path. They don't.

    • @rainfallenonmyshoes8471
      @rainfallenonmyshoes8471 3 месяца назад +26

      @quenky1 No i don't

  • @Jatadhari1000
    @Jatadhari1000 3 месяца назад +192

    The “ Jew hater “ , and “ antisemite” card are now overused. People have started seeing the truth.

    • @talksmoke1190
      @talksmoke1190 3 месяца назад

      Oh really you were an Isreal supporter in the past?

    • @tottifreeman240
      @tottifreeman240 3 месяца назад +14

      @@talksmoke1190no but James and many other were 🤷‍♀️

    • @talksmoke1190
      @talksmoke1190 3 месяца назад

      @@tottifreeman240 James was never an israel supporter

    • @user-dy6mc4iw9v
      @user-dy6mc4iw9v 3 месяца назад +3

      Crying wolf 😂

    • @marcellodelira5601
      @marcellodelira5601 3 месяца назад

      ​@@talksmoke1190I don't think anyone knows what James O'brien ever was or is or has been. Camouflage.

  • @cq6705
    @cq6705 3 месяца назад +273

    Israel has always been a pariah state

    • @shsh-he5qg
      @shsh-he5qg 3 месяца назад +38

      Never been a state, it’s always been a regime

    • @lewislee9201
      @lewislee9201 3 месяца назад

      In your warped mind, maybe. Israel is the only democracy in the ME and makes a far better job of giving its citizens a decent life than any of its neighbours manage to do.

    • @opinion3742
      @opinion3742 3 месяца назад

      A pariah state is a nation considered to be an outcast in the international community. Something that is only just beginning to become a threat. Long overdue as it is.

    • @rehan2118
      @rehan2118 3 месяца назад +10

      its a rogue state

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 3 месяца назад +3

      @cq. Define Pariah State. Your own words, mind. No peeping.

  • @ThomasKing19933
    @ThomasKing19933 3 месяца назад +471

    Yes, Israel is losing support massively.

    • @firefox1234ize
      @firefox1234ize 3 месяца назад +20

      💯💯

    • @davidking7353
      @davidking7353 3 месяца назад +22

      i wonder why

    • @OmEvul1415
      @OmEvul1415 3 месяца назад +51

      ​@@davidking7353 According to Israel, the reason is antisemitism. 😂

    • @Proudmuslimah123
      @Proudmuslimah123 3 месяца назад +5

      @@OmEvul1415 🤣🤣🤣

    • @liamsloan5410
      @liamsloan5410 3 месяца назад

      Yet biden continues to say that without the state of israel there wouldnt be a safe jew in the world when that is objectively not true and we know israel has made jews in the west less safe.

  • @spartacusforlife1508
    @spartacusforlife1508 3 месяца назад +270

    Why does anyone think that if Netanyahu goes Israeli policy will change

    • @naijaman6639
      @naijaman6639 3 месяца назад +46

      Exactly! As if they have not always been that way.

    • @akhaliquk
      @akhaliquk 3 месяца назад +26

      Agreed

    • @boxerotheweek6789
      @boxerotheweek6789 3 месяца назад

      It has been obvious to the world protesting before all you media and politicians, gee what a surprise!!!!!!

    • @oldskoolbeats1989
      @oldskoolbeats1989 3 месяца назад

      Because the USA will put in puppets and control the situation.

    • @perlecatt9123
      @perlecatt9123 3 месяца назад +14

      I agree. I wonder the same.

  • @staciasmith5162
    @staciasmith5162 3 месяца назад +294

    You want peace, give the Palestinians all of their lands villages and homes back. Give their cities and hospitals and universities back.

    • @donodono2287
      @donodono2287 3 месяца назад +16

      Israel proper is here to stay. But it is possible to have all the illegal settlers in the Palestinian West Bank removed.
      1 million French settlers the 'Pied noirs' removed themselves from Algeria upon its independence.

    • @jamesregiste960
      @jamesregiste960 3 месяца назад +8

      ​@quenky1yes,Their land, remember the "Covenant", ?

    • @philhahn
      @philhahn 3 месяца назад +10

      @@donodono2287But ultimately why should it? If any other colony did and behaved the way israel does there'd be global efforts.... Countries and colonies have collapsed before, why should Israel always be put on a plinth? Because of what happened 75 years ago?

    • @iainclark4835
      @iainclark4835 3 месяца назад +1

      @@jamesregiste960 Is that one of the Harry Potter books?

    • @shsh-he5qg
      @shsh-he5qg 3 месяца назад +8

      @quenky1same can be said about a imaginary bible 😂

  • @yansideabacoa6257
    @yansideabacoa6257 3 месяца назад +109

    Israel was always a pariah state long before Netanyahu.

    • @maltija1
      @maltija1 2 месяца назад

      To antisemites perhaps.

    • @titikyulianti2897
      @titikyulianti2897 2 месяца назад +3

      Lots of poeples don't even know about israeli occupation until october 7

    • @kunaiflex491
      @kunaiflex491 2 месяца назад

      Most the world hates them

  • @akhaliquk
    @akhaliquk 3 месяца назад +315

    The majority if not all the Israeli politicians are the same and some even worse. Stop making excuses for Israel's actions.

    • @philhahn
      @philhahn 3 месяца назад

      Wait till the same people act surprised when Bibi's out, yet the oppression continues....

    • @robertlonsdale5326
      @robertlonsdale5326 3 месяца назад

      All jews are much alike, don't they say that about Palestinians?

    • @Somedude54
      @Somedude54 3 месяца назад +16

      @quenky1squatters on Palestinians lands that’s what exactly they are 😂

    • @adaephonprime855
      @adaephonprime855 3 месяца назад +4

      They have 1 politician who is pushing for peace, and they tried to kick him out by vote, and it nearly carried through.

    • @tonyfincham6126
      @tonyfincham6126 3 месяца назад +7

      Lead by a man who is afraid to use his birth name Mileikowsky has brought them to this in world opinion.

  • @SkamGame
    @SkamGame 3 месяца назад +50

    Any state who practices Apartheid is by default a pariah state.

    • @lewislee9201
      @lewislee9201 3 месяца назад

      How many Jews lived in Gaza? You do not know what apartheid means.

    • @rayglenister9799
      @rayglenister9799 3 месяца назад +5

      @@lewislee9201 Please... you tell us what apartheid means.

  • @mcm6660
    @mcm6660 3 месяца назад +221

    I like James but I agree with the Jewish caller from Copenhagen. Israel shouldnt have the right to exist on stolen land. Its a colonial mindset. Of course the Holocaust was awful, but the solution shouldnt have been to displace Palestinians, who had nothing to do with it.

    • @madhatter4173
      @madhatter4173 3 месяца назад +19

      To me the end of Israel doesn't mean the displacement of Israelis since a lot of them were born there, but one democratic state for both Palestinians and Israelis.

    • @hellovicki6779
      @hellovicki6779 3 месяца назад

      I agree but sadly a single state is more impossible now than ever thanks to Israel's actions. People are too traumatised to live together in a community now. Palestinians must receive reparations from Israel and all nations who allied with Israel plus be granted their own state/land.@@madhatter4173

    • @user-qf1zg4zz8j
      @user-qf1zg4zz8j 3 месяца назад +7

      @@madhatter4173 Living peacefully as equals after a lot of deindoctrination and reconcilliation and justice.

    • @Stevef2022
      @Stevef2022 3 месяца назад +1

      I am curious as to why you are against colonization by Jews but in favour of Arab colonization and Islamic Imperialism?

    • @Stevef2022
      @Stevef2022 3 месяца назад

      @@madhatter4173I am curious about which Arab majority state will be your model for freedom and equality?

  • @akhaliquk
    @akhaliquk 3 месяца назад +215

    Once again James, you are pinning this on Netanyahu when it's always been like this, but u were blind to see or admit. The majority of the population and the government have clearly made their intentions clear... for God's sake it's all record.

    • @OhDearOhDear69
      @OhDearOhDear69 3 месяца назад +2

      Whoooo now, just because he’s their elected leader doesn’t by any means make them all guilty! Let’s not apply collective punishment right back -we’d be as bad as them

    • @caspar_gomez
      @caspar_gomez 3 месяца назад +6

      that's the new game. It's almost as if they all get the same marching orders the way everyones angle changes in unison

    • @caspar_gomez
      @caspar_gomez 3 месяца назад +11

      no it's just that the other parties are more far right than he is..... you can't live in dreamland. @@OhDearOhDear69

    • @philhahn
      @philhahn 3 месяца назад +6

      Ah give it a couple more weeks and he'll start claiming "Ahh weeks ago we said that here, didn't we..."

    • @alanniven-qq6tj
      @alanniven-qq6tj 3 месяца назад +21

      The problem extends to the majority of the ruling class and army, as well as a majority of the Jewish Israeli population, who have been brainwashed and kept in a state of paranoia and a perpetual war mentality for decades

  • @moetontorpedo
    @moetontorpedo 3 месяца назад +123

    Insinuating that the problems in Israel are all tied to “Netanyahu’s right wing government” is just such an oversimplification. Case in point the first caller saying he’s sad about the loss of life in Gaza but it has to continue. It’s very apparent that a popular number in the Israeli population including settlers have an extreme level of anti Palestinian sentiment which is one of the way this unacceptable apartheid system has been allowed to exist. And before someone tells me about October 7th this has been going on for years. The problem is much deeper than a change in leadership unfortunately.

    • @brianbreen1026
      @brianbreen1026 3 месяца назад +15

      Mowing the grass is the expression used.The Israelis see the Palestinians as less than human and that attitude has been prevalent for decades.Israel is apartheid and should be held to account.

    • @mistyc1986
      @mistyc1986 3 месяца назад +7

      Totally!

    • @lewislee9201
      @lewislee9201 3 месяца назад

      On 7th October the Palestinians only confirmed Israelis' perception of the former's lack of humanity.

    • @lewislee9201
      @lewislee9201 3 месяца назад

      Israel has around 2 million Arab citizens. Do you actually know the meaning of words like apartheid or do you just parrot them?

    • @mortemincarnatam2836
      @mortemincarnatam2836 2 месяца назад

      ​@@lewislee92012 millions that have no rights, and get harassed daily while the local law enforcement watches, only to interfere when they defend themselves.

  • @JohnCox-ut3cv
    @JohnCox-ut3cv 3 месяца назад +67

    I live in a traditional Cretan village. People grow their own food. Olives is a major crop. Yesterday, referring to the Israelis who had moved into the village a woman friend said it made her scared. I was puzzled & asked why. She couldn’t really say.
    Palestine was colonised by Israelis bearing arms. Decades of stealing homes through violence continues to this day. Maybe, that is what scares her.

  • @crisp523
    @crisp523 3 месяца назад +105

    I understood from before the Israeli troops even went into Gaza what was going to happen, sadly it was all too clear. This was backed up when I looked at my British co worker with Israeli parents Facebook, it read “it’s time Isreal had a new car park”.

    • @user-tx4ym7ru4e
      @user-tx4ym7ru4e 3 месяца назад

      does Israel deserve the right to exist? on stolen land? for another 75 years?

    • @MichelleMcSoriley
      @MichelleMcSoriley 3 месяца назад +28

      The mask has been lifted

    • @YusufGinnah
      @YusufGinnah 3 месяца назад +25

      The flippant disrespect shown for any other lifeform that isn't them, makes me sick to my stomach...

    • @JJfromJ
      @JJfromJ 3 месяца назад

      @@MichelleMcSoriley Here is a little bit more of the lifting of the mask...
      - Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156 "When a Jew has a gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it".
      And that is how the Jews confiscated land in Europe and became a hated nation, especially in Germany.

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 3 месяца назад

      @@MichelleMcSoriley Does this have ring of truth to you ?To me , it sounds like a line from a late-night. Comedy Club

  • @leothelemonboy1495
    @leothelemonboy1495 3 месяца назад +105

    I just want to remind everyone that South Africa before sanctions had nukes, just because a regime has a great military doesn't mean it can't fall.

    • @OhDearOhDear69
      @OhDearOhDear69 3 месяца назад +4

      Yeah but South Africa’s not Isreal, the rules don’t apply to Isreal

    • @SnowCedarQueen
      @SnowCedarQueen 3 месяца назад

      Israel was engaged in the destabilising of African countries since the 60s and highly supportive of the SA aparthied regime.

    • @fooballers7883
      @fooballers7883 3 месяца назад

      LOL .... rules or no rules... there was a thing called british empire... is it there today ? they are beggars in Europe today@@OhDearOhDear69

    • @leothelemonboy1495
      @leothelemonboy1495 3 месяца назад

      @@OhDearOhDear69 Yeah the white regime of South Africa thought the same thing before the US joined in on sanctions

    • @maureenmannion6748
      @maureenmannion6748 2 месяца назад +2

      Very proud of S Africa for its action taking Israel before the ICJ. Bravo. Wish the Western world governments had such morality.

  • @ArsenalTrill
    @ArsenalTrill 3 месяца назад +112

    Why question the aparent. Love to the beautiful people of Palestine ❤🍉

    • @lewislee9201
      @lewislee9201 3 месяца назад

      You do know the "beautiful Palestinian people" think it a beautiful thing when mothers bear many children so some can be spared as child "martyrs for Allah"? Not all cultures are equal.

    • @jawadshreim5485
      @jawadshreim5485 3 месяца назад

      @@lewislee9201so they have alot of children because they know some will be killed? They are beautiful

  • @Klopp2543
    @Klopp2543 3 месяца назад +55

    The problem isn't netanyahu, replace netanyahu and his/her replacement will continue with the same or worse policies.
    Why does israel lack official borders?

    • @earthynomad7160
      @earthynomad7160 3 месяца назад +2

      Because the greater isreal borders are not finalised

  • @paolosunda7762
    @paolosunda7762 3 месяца назад +22

    One cannot help wondering if all those children having been and been killed daily where somehow Italian, British, Belgian, French, Spanish etc.etc. how would the world community react ?? Would it have gone this far ?

    • @lewislee9201
      @lewislee9201 3 месяца назад

      All those European children would have parents who actually cared about them instead of instrumentalising them as cannon fodder for a sordid cause, If Europeans had been running Gaza and received all that aid Gaza would be a thriving, free, safe and prosperous city state where people would want to go. They'd probably have a boat people problem too. They would not have turned Gaza into a rocket launch pad, which is what Hamas did.

    • @nopt1118
      @nopt1118 2 месяца назад

      Also, would the ICJ had given the same ruling?

    • @hallodan23
      @hallodan23 13 дней назад

      Of course not

  • @gavinkalaher7314
    @gavinkalaher7314 3 месяца назад +48

    I reckon 100-120k is more realistic, and it's nowhere near over yet. Most people don't realise the gravity of the situation on the ground.

    • @magnuscarlsson9969
      @magnuscarlsson9969 3 месяца назад +11

      It will probably be way more at this rate. A starving person can be saved, but they will need care to recover... food might be the immediate remedy to the situation, but with no way to properly administer care within this environment they are in, it won't really be a magical fix-it-all.

    • @gavinkalaher7314
      @gavinkalaher7314 3 месяца назад +13

      @@magnuscarlsson9969 it could easily go to 300k with starvation. With disease included, 500k+ - it's that dire. Even if it stopped tomorrow, there's a 'long-tail' of excess mortality for over a year.

    • @staciasmith5162
      @staciasmith5162 3 месяца назад

      They want all 2,000,000 dead.

  • @agathonhelo1474
    @agathonhelo1474 3 месяца назад +44

    The caller from Tel Aviv had a British accent. I find it amazing how many callers from Israel have foreign accents. I wonder why they all have foreign accents?

    • @abeersadeddin5975
      @abeersadeddin5975 3 месяца назад +8

      ​@quenky1 extremely ignorant of you...study before you speak

    • @1seafisher
      @1seafisher 3 месяца назад +5

      ​@quenky1pales are descendants of netufians the first settlers of israel thousands of years before any jew ! Nice try though

    • @talksmoke1190
      @talksmoke1190 3 месяца назад +1

      In the intervening 70+ years the Nakba, or catastrophe, which Zurayk emphatically defined as the failure of ineffectual Arab states, who sought “the abolition of partition and the eradication of Zionism” only to “leave the battle having lost a not inconsiderable portion of the soil of Palestine” has been disingenuously redefined as the expulsion of Palestinians from part of the proposed State of Palestine

    • @1seafisher
      @1seafisher 3 месяца назад +1

      @quenky1 and when was their tactical identity formed ?

    • @1seafisher
      @1seafisher 3 месяца назад +1

      @quenky1 and when was their tactical identity formed

  • @user-xk9nx3ii8d
    @user-xk9nx3ii8d 3 месяца назад +67

    From Israeli who spoke first called, it's too clear Israeli want finished all palestinian

    • @abeersadeddin5975
      @abeersadeddin5975 3 месяца назад +7

      ​@quenky1
      And then all Joradnians and then all Iraqis and then all Egyptians until they get their greater Israel...and then maybe they will expand some more?

    • @nlole
      @nlole 3 месяца назад +5

      @quenky1 just like it started with Poland right?

    • @Ayah_Mia
      @Ayah_Mia 3 месяца назад +6

      ​@quenky1I thought the Naz!s no longer exists until I realised that they are rebranding themselves as the NAtional ZIonism of Israel.

    • @mystery8207
      @mystery8207 3 месяца назад

      @quenky1Netanyahu’s far right coalition activity talks about the greater Israel all the time…

    • @cakewhisperer7113
      @cakewhisperer7113 3 месяца назад

      My feeling exactly. The audacity of the Israeli supporters to still support the crazy starvation and dehumanization of the Palestinians.

  • @HughCurranAedh
    @HughCurranAedh 3 месяца назад +46

    A country once admired showing its ignoble face. Perhaps it was always this way?

    • @naijaman6639
      @naijaman6639 3 месяца назад +24

      Thank you. It was always that way, but as always, truth finally overtook lies and misinformation.

    • @rooks4ever
      @rooks4ever 3 месяца назад

      Only admired by the ignorant or the genocidal

    • @fredflinstone6601
      @fredflinstone6601 3 месяца назад +3

      I never admired

  • @AbdulRahman-mk3wl
    @AbdulRahman-mk3wl 3 месяца назад +31

    The whole world is very much against netanyahus actions

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 3 месяца назад

      Abdul Rahman-mk. Maybe. But not all for the same reasons. Don’t try and recruit them to your particular cause.

    • @franklinkooyman8117
      @franklinkooyman8117 2 месяца назад +1

      Sooner or later (probably sooner), Netanyahu's Israel will have to learn the lesson that we South Africans learnt some 30 years ago ....... They cannot gain security, peace and prosperity by depriving another nation, in this case the Palestinians, of the same rights that they want for themselves.

  • @Benzo442
    @Benzo442 3 месяца назад +28

    Thank you, James, for always speaking it as it is. History will be kind to people like you, Owen Jones, and New Media

    • @KingofEverything1
      @KingofEverything1 3 месяца назад

      Wrong, O'Brien was one of the main anti Corbyn people going on about his made up antisemitism and continuing to promote Zionism

    • @user-dy6mc4iw9v
      @user-dy6mc4iw9v 3 месяца назад

      💯

  • @AnEs77644
    @AnEs77644 3 месяца назад +93

    How do you fix a society that has become so deeply consumed by racism and fascism ?

    • @OhDearOhDear69
      @OhDearOhDear69 3 месяца назад

      I have no idea, it’s terrifying. They report anything you say on Pro -Israeli media, they won’t listen. Muting comments might buy them some time, but it won’t stop the decades of guilt and shame that will eventually come when they see their actions objectively.

    • @rooks4ever
      @rooks4ever 3 месяца назад

      Exactly Zionism had made Israel scary genocidal.

    • @user-dy6mc4iw9v
      @user-dy6mc4iw9v 3 месяца назад +1

      I’m assuming the colonizer 😅

    • @rayglenister9799
      @rayglenister9799 3 месяца назад +5

      Press for change by not supporting it economically or militarily. American and Western Governments can sow those two words you used onto their National flags.

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 3 месяца назад

      @user-jo. Once, “racism” was a helpful clarifying word. Now it has become a sword.

  • @DavidCodyPeppers.
    @DavidCodyPeppers. 3 месяца назад +27

    28:54
    90% of the world's politicians DID say something.
    It happened in the U.N.
    🕊️

    • @rooks4ever
      @rooks4ever 3 месяца назад +2

      But hardly any sanctions tbf

    • @rooks4ever
      @rooks4ever 3 месяца назад +2

      But hardly any sanctions tbf

  • @jjboys215
    @jjboys215 3 месяца назад +66

    Israel is the only Nation/State that I've ever heard anyone say, "Has a right to exist".
    Ukraine was INVADED, yet I've NEVER heard that term used in reference to Ukraine...

    • @boxerotheweek6789
      @boxerotheweek6789 3 месяца назад

      Not only that but the west bank is 'occupied' for 60 years, isn't it called annexation for everyone else

    • @carpediem5232
      @carpediem5232 3 месяца назад +3

      That is pure nonsense, people constantly talk about the sovereign right of Ukraine to exist. If you haven't heard it you didn't pay any attention or didn't want to hear it. It is one of the main arguments to support Ukraine. That states have the right to exist has been said about many other states over the year.

    • @joshuarubin3684
      @joshuarubin3684 3 месяца назад +7

      ​@@carpediem5232you misunderstood the OP, who implies no one needs to affirm Ukraine's right to exist since it's so obvious

    • @carpediem5232
      @carpediem5232 3 месяца назад

      @@joshuarubin3684 He stated outright that he never heard that term used. What ever intention, that statement is nonsense.

    • @abedadavids5468
      @abedadavids5468 3 месяца назад +11

      Because it doesn’t have that right. It’s stolen.

  • @antoniaadams2084
    @antoniaadams2084 3 месяца назад +28

    That speech was given to give bibi a way out and Isreal. Who ever they put in may slow it down, in another 40 years we will have the same conversation. They think their smarter then everyone else thats the issue.

    • @marieb9397
      @marieb9397 3 месяца назад +13

      Absolutely agree. The Palestinians have suffered enough. Going back to a world where we all move on with our flapaccinnos and bagels while the people of Palestine stay under apartheid and occupation is not going to happen again moving forward. Never again means never again.🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

    • @fredflinstone6601
      @fredflinstone6601 3 месяца назад +1

      10 years, not 40.

    • @cakewhisperer7113
      @cakewhisperer7113 3 месяца назад

      70 or 80 thousand ?? He needs to correct his comment to at least 3 quarter of a million.

  • @debk3901
    @debk3901 3 месяца назад +16

    The devastation in Gaza serves as a stark reminder of the immense human cost of conflict. The staggering number of casualties, including fatalities and countless others left with life-altering injuries, suggests that the toll could potentially reach into the hundreds of thousands. Even if the death toll hasn't yet reached that figure yet, the widespread suffering from injuries, infections, and the harsh realities of starvation paint a terrifying picture of the toll this ongoing conflict is having on the Palestinian people. There's a noticeable global shift in sentiment towards Israel. Empathy, once prevalent, is waning as people express shock and disbelief over what's perceived as relentless retaliation. Many are calling for accountability, and personally I feel there should be repercussions for Biden, Blinken (how can he even put diplomat in his job specs)and any other international leaders that continued to support this Dresden style campaign (includes Obama and Clinton.) The actions of the Israeli government and IDF will leave a lasting mark on future generations of Jewish children, staining them with an evil legacy. It's difficult to comprehend this kind of insanity. But what I find even more staggering is the silence from Arab nations. DEAFENING

    • @tubthump
      @tubthump 3 месяца назад +3

      The de facto government of Yemen have had a lot to say

    • @debk3901
      @debk3901 3 месяца назад

      Defacto! Correct ! Where is Saudi Arabia, UAE, Morocco and Bahrain or Egypt. You hear more from Ireland and South Africa. There does not appear to be any strong leadership in Arab nations they all succumb to the West@@tubthump

    • @mortemincarnatam2836
      @mortemincarnatam2836 2 месяца назад +1

      I mean the average Arab citizens had a lot to say, it just the dictators that are silent, and it not really surprising, if they don't care for their own citizens, what makes you think they would care for the Palestinians?

  • @liamfarrell3281
    @liamfarrell3281 3 месяца назад +5

    Who gave the British the right to give Palestine away to European emigres?

    • @rayglenister9799
      @rayglenister9799 3 месяца назад

      The British were glad to hand the Palestinian 'problem' over to the UN in 1947. The UN then voted to Partition Palestine to accommodate the formation of a Jewish State on land called Palestine. Israel declared itself a State in 1948 after its victory in the Arab war, and was thus able to forcibly expel 700 000 Palestinians from their homeland. The same agenda as today.

  • @DavidCodyPeppers.
    @DavidCodyPeppers. 3 месяца назад +13

    31:10
    Well there you have it.
    The nation of Israel is a special case.
    Just wow.
    🕊️

  • @marcusdosh408
    @marcusdosh408 3 месяца назад +12

    Pariaha state is an understatement

  • @perirgensolsson3673
    @perirgensolsson3673 3 месяца назад +16

    has he been presidnt for 75 years?

  • @pennypierce6511
    @pennypierce6511 3 месяца назад +22

    Yes, he has. They will never be safe now...

  • @tfalani3861
    @tfalani3861 3 месяца назад +9

    Israel was always a pariah state according to Prof Noam Chomsky

  • @Jatadhari1000
    @Jatadhari1000 3 месяца назад +25

    Israel is a pariah state, the first caller just doesn’t see it. Also is he an “ Israeli “ , or a dual British Zionist israeli ?

    • @Daniel-zs1eq
      @Daniel-zs1eq 3 месяца назад +3

      Both! With a massive false entitlement!

  • @OhDearOhDear69
    @OhDearOhDear69 3 месяца назад +12

    Not yet, but it’s right on the cusp in my opinion. People in the west have not yet seen the starving children, when they do that will be the catalyst for real, outspoken change. Not all this tiptoeing around the subject, which is just like being in an abusive relationship.

    • @matzbr5tw
      @matzbr5tw 3 месяца назад +1

      Yes I agree completely

  • @fathimachaudhri9757
    @fathimachaudhri9757 3 месяца назад +23

    Nno James there weren't just 70000 or 80000 people there ,
    There were MORE THAN 800000 thousand people already living there,.and there is a LOT of difference between 80 thousand & 800 thousand.James you need to do your homework on this !!!

    • @fredflinstone6601
      @fredflinstone6601 3 месяца назад

      1.5 million. 750000 were ethnically cleansed

  • @abedadavids5468
    @abedadavids5468 3 месяца назад +11

    Why is this extraordinary when criticising a colonial occupying terrorist but when killing a president from another country by the west because they see him as a threat there is silence and no backlash. So Netanyahu can just step down with no repercussions

    • @Bytheriversofbabylonhc
      @Bytheriversofbabylonhc 3 месяца назад

      The 4000 year Torah says clearly the land of Israel belongs to the Jews, the 12 tribes of ISRAEL

  • @bablumiah2062
    @bablumiah2062 3 месяца назад +37

    Netanyahu has done so much damage to Israel 100 times worse than what hamas can ever do. Israel. Netanyahu is responsible for the security and safety of a citizens if a Shepherd was sent to gauard Sheep and then the wolf came and ate the sheep , who would you blame the wolf or the Shepherd it should be the Shepherd who in this case is Netanyahu who allowed the atrocity on seventh of October

    • @raphaelandrews3617
      @raphaelandrews3617 3 месяца назад +2

      THAT is exactly what happen. The people left to protect sheep sat back and allowed the wolf eat his fill, then said look what that wolf did it , it was all his fault. Nothing to do with me, so let use go after wolf, it his fault leave it to me, I will deal with the wolf.

    • @abedadavids5468
      @abedadavids5468 3 месяца назад +5

      Israel is the wolf. This started years ago not on October 7th

    • @tottifreeman240
      @tottifreeman240 3 месяца назад +7

      @quenky1I’m sure if Israel hadn’t occupied Palestine those 30000 and more would be alive

    • @jimbob3030
      @jimbob3030 3 месяца назад +4

      @quenky1 "Pretty sure the 30k who died in this war will be alive today if Oct 7 didn't happen."
      That doesn't fit with what the plan has been all along. The plan didn't begin oct 7 or change after oct 7.

    • @koalabrownie
      @koalabrownie 3 месяца назад

      @quenky1No, the 30K who died would be alive today if Israel's longest-serving Prime Minister wasn't fundamentally opposed to peace. Israeli citizens are the ones who elect him, they're the ones who elected alleged war criminals like Sharon and known former terrorists like Began and Shamir.

  • @kimshin8383
    @kimshin8383 3 месяца назад +26

    James your telling the truth I enjoy listening to your show just because of how you are and how fair you are

    • @stevekeys262
      @stevekeys262 3 месяца назад +4

      Unless the subject matter is Jeremy Corbyn.

    • @alanniven-qq6tj
      @alanniven-qq6tj 3 месяца назад +5

      I agree with both the above comments.

    • @tottifreeman240
      @tottifreeman240 3 месяца назад +4

      He was so anti Jeremy Corbin now what they said about JC they say about him and he plays victim. James pandering guilt with no real apology makes me sick sometimes

    • @user-dy6mc4iw9v
      @user-dy6mc4iw9v 3 месяца назад

      Balanced. 😊

  • @knowledgepower2001
    @knowledgepower2001 3 месяца назад +7

    We need more people like James o brien

  • @berosmith9041
    @berosmith9041 3 месяца назад +10

    I fail to understand why the English have not given some advice to Israel. They did exactly the same, punished civilians for the actions of a few and in the end, they lost!

    • @naijaman6639
      @naijaman6639 3 месяца назад +3

      Well, they want company in history.

  • @dirtcom7
    @dirtcom7 3 месяца назад +9

    Melvin had a thick middle Eastern accent

  • @robyn-ky1dz
    @robyn-ky1dz 3 месяца назад +7

    Netanyahu paid for by US. They admit it. There is no Israel. Paid for by us.😂😂

  • @roseannemain9957
    @roseannemain9957 3 месяца назад +2

    In the minds of many people living in Scotland Israel is already a pariah state!!

  • @spartacusforlife1508
    @spartacusforlife1508 3 месяца назад +9

    To ordinary people the answer is yes. To politicians who see it as a proxy in the region the answer is no

  • @mazg2075
    @mazg2075 3 месяца назад +4

    It's ALREADY BEEN a PARIAH State for the last 75+ Years

  • @ronturner3598
    @ronturner3598 3 месяца назад +9

    Moral parsing has nothing to do with finding peace. Finger pointing must end. Peace and human rights for all now.

  • @khurramadnan8839
    @khurramadnan8839 3 месяца назад +5

    When will James OBrian receive an award for his work. Surely he has become a benchmark a standard bearer of what journalism should be. Truthful, unbiased, factual, unambiguous, and most importantly uninfluenced by any factor other than the factual truth. As a member of the media fraternity as a producer and someone who had tried to raise several issues in the past, from immigration to radicalisation I am proud of this beacon of light that is James OBrian (OBE ... at least). Knight the Man.

  • @BachTantra
    @BachTantra 3 месяца назад +4

    99% of Israelis are eating well tonight

  • @mohsinrao4334
    @mohsinrao4334 3 месяца назад +13

    20:03 Au contraire, there is every comparison to be drawn between Netanyahu and Hamas at this point. The difference I suppose is that the former has access to an air force, and can wear a suit and speak English.

  • @user-rf9ys2vz3i
    @user-rf9ys2vz3i 3 месяца назад +12

    Truth to power. Respect. Palestine, Unilaterally.

  • @1seafisher
    @1seafisher 3 месяца назад +11

    Sadly I feel yes ! Maybe not by politicians but by the vast majority of everyday people they've seen and heard enough of the drivle spewing from spokespeople , certain news outlets and world leaders

  • @montaguewithnail6372
    @montaguewithnail6372 3 месяца назад +15

    American meddling in other countries brought to a new level.

    • @staciasmith5162
      @staciasmith5162 3 месяца назад +3

      I agree. As an American, I believe that we need to stop meddling and giving aid, money, weapons, and diplomatic cover to Israel. Maybe most countries.

  • @ronnieparkerscott6223
    @ronnieparkerscott6223 3 месяца назад +6

    Israel have lost. This maybe realised 30 years from now. Sad!

  • @barriemilgate
    @barriemilgate 3 месяца назад +6

    Has he ever talked about Julian Assange. Just asking.

    • @tubthump
      @tubthump 3 месяца назад +2

      Not as far as I know. Shameful.

  • @WizDomSon
    @WizDomSon 3 месяца назад +8

    There is no comparison to Hamas. 30k+ is the consistent terrorist count. Also, Palestine is a colonial settler state that occupies from inception. Hamas 10/7 is a small terrorist response to no ceasefire and decades of incursion

  • @minimalist279
    @minimalist279 3 месяца назад +4

    Clear now the US line is at 31,000.

  • @nemosays6337
    @nemosays6337 3 месяца назад +11

    Yes!

  • @mehdiboudaoud7533
    @mehdiboudaoud7533 2 месяца назад +2

    It's really sad to see that these people criticize Netanyahu because he put Israël in a bad situation rather than condemning him for the atrocities he committed against Palestinians.

  • @fazinsanal1085
    @fazinsanal1085 3 месяца назад +2

    What would you do if someone from another country comes to your home and said this used to be mine and threw you and your family out who now have to be refugees in their ancestral land?!?!?

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 3 месяца назад

      @fazinsanal. Get out the History books and read aboutwhat really happened. You might be surprised. The land that was given to the Jews by Treaty with the Allies after WW2 was the worst, and regarded by the locals as a write-off, unproductive and virtually unworkable. My parents heard from a returning serviceman that it was a dump - the soil was thin, no natural harbours, unreliable water-courses. The new Israelis lived in tents for years - and transformed it by hard labour.

  • @username33ish
    @username33ish 3 месяца назад +9

    Few weeks James you painted all those who were critical of Israel as anti-Semites now you dipped your toe in the debate you have now been painted with the same brush yet you still dont seem to get the irony of that

    • @mandyharewood886
      @mandyharewood886 3 месяца назад +2

      Huh?

    • @username33ish
      @username33ish 3 месяца назад

      @@mandyharewood886 sorry I had made a typo thanks for letting me know

    • @carpediem5232
      @carpediem5232 3 месяца назад +3

      He didn't do that though. Why are you talking nonsense?

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 3 месяца назад

      May I be allowed to add “pariah state” to the list of unhelpful words. It demonises a whole population, who may be quite innocent.

  • @liamfarrell3281
    @liamfarrell3281 3 месяца назад +3

    Population of Palestine under the British Mandate was not 70,000, it was 757,182.

  • @mokchahaahmed4226
    @mokchahaahmed4226 3 месяца назад +2

    "If Israelis don't want to be accused of being like the Nazis, they simply need to stop behaving like Nazis.."
    ~ Norman Finkelstein

  • @catznjam470
    @catznjam470 3 месяца назад +2

    Last word from my thoughts, following the money 🕵️‍♀️👁️👁️🤔🙄we need a refresher on Netanyahu's financial crimes and corruption, the indictments, what happened to them? What exactly was he doing to dismantle the judiciary system? How is he still in power? There were already widespread protests in Israel against the government - what is going on with that? What is going on with the illegal encroachment and settlements? Cui bono?

  • @bmxney3143
    @bmxney3143 3 месяца назад +9

    Yes, next question

  • @The_Reckoning_Is_Here
    @The_Reckoning_Is_Here 3 месяца назад +12

    Schumer should take his own advice and get out of the past and govern for the future.

  • @madhatter4173
    @madhatter4173 3 месяца назад +2

    The problem is that it doesn't really matter if Netanyahu is replaced since nothing will change. Benny Gantz already said that he won't change the approach in Gaza and neither did anything under Naftali Bennett and Yair Lapid. At the end of the day a two state solution has become impossible so one democratic country is really the only solution like us in South Africa, which will be a bumpy ride but the right thing to do, both practically and ethically. The correlation between SA and Israel is huge and if Israel was smart they would look at what we've done and improve on it.

  • @RKAAHLAEFD
    @RKAAHLAEFD 3 месяца назад +3

    As like the two state solution was possible before oct.7 🙄 do not blame the 7amas for Preventing access to the state solution ، Because it was not possible with Israel in the first place .

  • @PeterPan-qp7vt
    @PeterPan-qp7vt 3 месяца назад +9

    THEY NEVER HAD SUPORT !!!

    • @IcarianX
      @IcarianX 3 месяца назад +5

      They have unconditional support from the one country that matters: America. That's all they need, military aid and the Security Council veto blocking all resolutions against them.

  • @verng8864
    @verng8864 3 месяца назад +2

    You mean the Crime Minister Netanyahu

  • @divinity176
    @divinity176 3 месяца назад +2

    Blaming Netanyahu is easy. But he has been elected time and time again over the decades - even when Rabin was murdered and the Israelis had the choice of going with the candidate who would continue Rabin's efforts for peace, they chose Netanyahu. And they do this knowing full well that in the multiparty situation they have, a Netanyahu run government is almost always going to include coalition partners far more extreme than even he is. Netanyahu represents the democratic will of Israel - blaming him lets everyone else off too easily.

  • @Coops5361
    @Coops5361 3 месяца назад +5

    At this "critical juncture" why this, why now from Schumer?
    Beyond that what's going to stop Schumer being characterised as the 'wrong kind of Jew'?

    • @genglo8186
      @genglo8186 3 месяца назад

      Hi, American here, Schumer is up for re election. You'll hear most politicians come out & speak out against IsNOTrael now, only because they want to continue to be in power.

  • @user-gw3tk3lr7k
    @user-gw3tk3lr7k 3 месяца назад +3

    So they knew all along, James they knew the truth and the longer they held on hoping the masses would fade the more they facilitated the death in Gaza. This can’t only be on that lunatic Bibi they all have blood on their hands.

  • @jasonpetrise
    @jasonpetrise 3 месяца назад +9

    It's been one for 75 years 🙄

  • @RoarDog1
    @RoarDog1 3 месяца назад +1

    Netanyahu needs convicting of serious war crimes when this horror is over.

  • @jirehmi9183
    @jirehmi9183 2 месяца назад +2

    Has it not been a Pariah state for over 75 years? And who is the terrorist? How do we define this? Are Hamas a resistance or terrorist group?

  • @DennisMoore664
    @DennisMoore664 3 месяца назад +3

    Carrying forward the whole vegetable comparisons James has been doing this week ... Netanyahu is a real raw Lima bean.

  • @demitri2510
    @demitri2510 3 месяца назад +3

    Most estimates I’ve seen is there were many more Palestinians than just 70-80,000. The library of congress in the US estimates hundreds of thousands.

  • @thegoodpimps
    @thegoodpimps 3 месяца назад +2

    Moses married an Arab, Muhammad married a Jew. These groups can easily coexist if they choose Love over Hate.

  • @jawadshreim5485
    @jawadshreim5485 3 месяца назад +2

    70 or 80 thousand people were on Palestinian land before Israel? There was 2 million my brother

  • @geertdecoster5301
    @geertdecoster5301 3 месяца назад +4

    Not yet, but some do want their Greater Israel

  • @jackmannion143
    @jackmannion143 3 месяца назад +5

    You should look into the practice of metzitzah bpeh .. would like to hear a jewish perspective of said religious ritual common place in hasidic jewish community

  • @mohamedfouze1844
    @mohamedfouze1844 2 месяца назад

    James O'Brien very brilliant and truthful! My highest respect to you 🫡

  • @chaichai8444
    @chaichai8444 2 месяца назад +2

    language matters and "change of course" or "situation" does not mean ceasefire. its diluted and while its a huge step for Schumer is not a huge step in the international discourse outside of the Anglosphere, like you said

  • @michellerenner6880
    @michellerenner6880 3 месяца назад +3

    Palestinians representatives to the UN want a 2-state solution.

  • @PeterPan-qp7vt
    @PeterPan-qp7vt 3 месяца назад +3

    I FO NOT THINK THAT WAY I LIBED THERE I KNOW THESE PEOPLE THEY HOLD TOGETHER WHEN THERE IS WAR THEY FIGHT EACH OTHER DURING PEACE !!!

  • @shabirahmed9840
    @shabirahmed9840 3 месяца назад +2

    It’s been obvious for months not weeks!

  • @Noname-hc5uw
    @Noname-hc5uw 3 месяца назад +2

    James, why do you insist on calling Hamas a terrorist, but exempt the IDF of the same label? Btw, 10/11 was not a terror attack but a response to Israeli terrorism!

  • @jdnlaw1974
    @jdnlaw1974 3 месяца назад +9

    How is the claim that Israel has permeated and perhaps achieved control of the US and the UK governments wrong or antisemitic? Is it antisemitic if it’s actually true?

    • @user-ck3xz9so7h
      @user-ck3xz9so7h 3 месяца назад

      Its antisemitic because it is utter nonsense. US/UK support Israel for their own post-colonial geo-political interests, not because they are "controlled" by Israel and certainly not by Jews in general. The USA has 300 million people. There are about 8 million Jews in the US, and no, they don't control all the banks, or Hollywood or the media.

    • @TC-qk6nt
      @TC-qk6nt 3 месяца назад +1

      Stating lobbyists on behalf of the Israeli state shape UK policy on Gaza is not anti-Semitic and shouldn’t be controversial. Why so tough for James to grasp? 🤔

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 3 месяца назад +1

      @jdnlaw. We have had the (invented and incorrect ) word “Islamophobia” foisted on us. Why not “ judophobia” -or something similar ? It’s because prejudice runs deeper than we know.

  • @SeanPan-it3jm
    @SeanPan-it3jm 3 месяца назад +5

    You won't think so, if you are Netan-yahoo-y.

    • @stephaniejaboh8929
      @stephaniejaboh8929 3 месяца назад

      I am sure the majority of the world dont want to be Satanyahu right now, for having to deal with the war, for facing legal troubles and for the brutality of his decisions.

  • @joshuarubin3684
    @joshuarubin3684 3 месяца назад +3

    Why does James feel the need to mention that although Hamas is labeled a terrorist organization in this country, it's not labeled as such in all countries...

    • @tubthump
      @tubthump 3 месяца назад +4

      Most of the world doesn’t label Hamas as terrorists. And worth remembering that the French resistance were labelled as terrorists by the occupying Germans in WWII

    • @joshuarubin3684
      @joshuarubin3684 3 месяца назад

      @@tubthump why is that worth remembering? What point are you making?

    • @tubthump
      @tubthump 3 месяца назад +3

      @@joshuarubin3684 my point is there’s nothing new about referring to your enemy as a terrorist. When did the UK finally remove Nelson Mandela from their list of terrorists?

    • @joshuarubin3684
      @joshuarubin3684 3 месяца назад

      @@tubthump are you comparing Hamas with Nelson Mandela?

    • @tubthump
      @tubthump 3 месяца назад +2

      @@joshuarubin3684 Apparently I misread your original comment - I thought you were making the same basic point as me. So, yes, by comparing Mandela and his ANC or the WWII French resistance with Hamas I’m saying that enemies are frequently referred to as terrorists by governments. Not everyone regards Hamas as an enemy therefore they don’t call them terrorists - it is, after all, a purely subjective and meaningless term. Most significantly, Palestinians in Gaza elected them to be their representatives so it’s what they think which is most important isn’t it?

  • @miastupid7911
    @miastupid7911 3 месяца назад +1

    Your 3rd caller had me crying hard.

  • @user-yq4nf1wm6r
    @user-yq4nf1wm6r 2 месяца назад

    I like your presentation on LBC. You very talented. I follow you all the time. You give me the impression you have have been allowed to be free and do freedom of speech. I love it

  • @GeistInTheMachine
    @GeistInTheMachine 3 месяца назад +6

    No. Not nearly enough of a pariah.

  • @mapleleafkay9824
    @mapleleafkay9824 3 месяца назад +3

    Yes he has!

  • @nedsantos1415
    @nedsantos1415 3 месяца назад +2

    How has he NOT done that?