It used to be so much worse, the wither effect used to negate all armour enchants completely on Bedrock Edition, making the fight even harder than it is now.
@@Greatest_Villain I never wanted the easy boss,in fact let's talk about your boss,what who? Your mom or your dad? You see tell your dad what happened,oh wait you don't have one ,well tell your mom oh wait...she was to dumb that she got hit by a parked car and died
@@maitumfriendbro could not hold a argument or even a coherent conversation and immediately insults mums and dads, no wonder bros avater is skibidi toilet 💀
@CorynneFord Ahh yes. Because I wanna fill my inventory with 50k buckets of milk. Every hit gives the wither effect. You will get hit more than 5 times during that fight at the very least.
@@smoothfeen6274 True lol; im a coward when it comes to fighting things in minecraft so i usually just drink milk and run away. I've actually never beaten the wither in Java so im curious to see how that will pan out lmao
Have tried to beat the wither on a creative super flat. It is so much EASIER to fight it with cracked enchants, notch apples and netherite on a flat bedrock. Of course this feels like a no shit Sherlock moment but THAT is the ONLY way to feel like a fair fight.
There is a reason why it's a effect like how poison works but actually kills you instead of putting you in one hp and effects shouldn't be block by armoured it makes sense since there some openings of the armour visually so it kinda makes sense why it's taking the same damage
I think one of the main reasons the bedrock wither fight is so hard is that the protection enchantment does not protect against status effects in bedrock. This also makes dealing with witches way more annoying.
Heres a better idea: add both to both games. So they should build it so that Java Wither is built like regular, but Bedrock Wither is built with an extra soul soil at the bottom.
I think the Wither should be the same on both versions, (defaulting to the Java Wither) But you can summon it with extra skulls to make it work like the Bedrock Wither, and it would give you an extra reward.
The two could also compliment each other with their drops. Like, you kill the easier java wither for the nether star to make a beacon and killing the bedrock one gives you some other item to boost the beacon's range or something
How about we go with the theme of the ominous stuff and have both versions get the Java wither and if you fight a wither after drinking an ominous bottle you get the bedrock wither with some new reward
@@taxevasiondinoHere is idea Normal Wither (java wither) will give nether star and bedrock wither will give ultimate nether star which can craft new ultimate beacon and New ultimate sword
Its not just the wither, the low spawn distance means everywhere that can have mobs becomes flooded with them. Going back to Java the lack of mob swarms in caves and fortresses was a huge relief.
@@SomeRandomAsian33yeah but more spawn at once like if you go in a big bedrock cave you will immediately see 1000 baby zombies, skeletons, and creepers on their way to ruin your day but its just not like that in Java
True, I play in easy mode and sometimes even peaceful mode, and I get actual hoards of zombies every night, like 10-15 zombies in a whole herd. Also my zombies and many of my skeletons always have tons of armor, I thought easy mode would be less armor. And every morning there's either creepers or witches hanging out outside my base, depending what biome I slept in. If I camp out on exploration I have to open my tent or hut and run out the door so I can turn around and see my tent was surrounded by creepers waiting to blow me up. And that's easy mode. I can't imagine trying normal or hard mode 😂 especially on my phone. My friend's ps4 is easier to play on but I only have my phone and it's hard not to die in easy mode. Plus the lag..
I propose a compromise; both withers are made the same, with similar abilities. You nerf the bedrock wither, and give the java wither some of the abilities, like the better pathfinding/flying or summoning either skellies.
@@Endy419if u can't defeat wither in ur phone then unistall Minecraft u don't even deserve this game I have defeated wither 3 years ago on my 3gb ram phone
I’d actually take one of the features of the new snapshots-how bad omen was revamped to be able to affect various different events-to simultaneously get the benefits of such a trade while also getting version parity and not robbing the cool hard boss from bedrock or the farmable easy boss from the technical minecrafters on java: - The easy java version becomes the default for both versions, BUT - in both versions, if the wither is spawned while under a bad omen effect, it spawns as an OMINOUS wither, which has the traits of the current Bedrock wither. Same solution could also be used to make an ACTUALLY TERRIFYING ender dragon fight while keeping the basic version simple for people who just want to beat the game or open an end gateway.
Would there be a reward for beating the "Ominous Wither/Dragon" That would be pretty cool. Honestly more boss like mobs in general would be a cool edition. (Actual bosses though. Not mini bosses like Elder Guardians or glorified Dungeon Guardians like the Warden)
@@drakewahl7609 the so called Red Dragon that was rejected years ago even could be the inspiration behind the Ominous Ender Dragon and so with its egg, it being red instead and some new great late game item
The Ominous effect could and probably will change Minecraft as we know it Like, other than those changes, it could be used to replace annoying mechanics Example: Insomnia and Phantoms, instead of being punished for not doing something you don’t want to do, you are able to you yourself inflict insomnia on your person by getting the ominous effect before going to sleep, which would wake you up at the middle of the night with more mobs around, a blood moon and a horde of phantoms (also, a insomnia effect to show what you did and so you can’t sleep until the Insomnia effect goes away, which would make sense not being able to sleep with Insomnia) The second idea was for a Ominous Ender Dragon drop the Elytra’s and them being removed from the end cities Those idea, alongside eachother can do great things (phantom farming and elytra farming) while doing something that Minecraft needs to do: balance the elytra (not only is it harder to get, but also harder to repair)
Literally every single bedrock player I've seen complain that it's too hard Even though it isn't I just beat a wither with prot 4 iron armor And a smite 5 diamonds sword It's not hard If it's difficult it's because you the player are bad at The game
Definitely not why people think that because when I fought it, it didn't do that. It's simply because it's harder, Not because it's was invincible at one point
It does not become invincible it just reaches a point where range attacks do not work anymore and you have to use your sword halfway through it's life and at that point it's constantly exploding which causes crazy lag because the amount of blocks dropped
One of my attempts fighting the wither it dug a hole that was maybe 12 by 12 blocks and 80 blocks deep. So that many block drops caused so much lag it was impossible to even move dropping to maybe one to five frames per second
No as a bedrock player I STRONGLY disagree with this idea, we aren’t complaining we are bragging. It’s nice to have something to hold against the Java players.
@@princemc35are you serious? Like actually serious? Because if you are that’s the funniest thing I’ve hear this year. You can get a mouse and keyboard for like $10 or cheaper. You can find people giving them away. You can even buy a new high quality mechanical keyboard and a good mouse for under $50. That is cheaper than a new controller. Cheaper than some used ones tool. You can’t seriously be suggesting people would be upset by a purchase of a tool much more useful and cheaper than the price of their controller.
They should give Java the bedrock wither, the whole point of a boss should be difficult and quite frankly once you get decent stuff and a good bow the Java wither is way too easy.
Yeah I'd say buff the Java Wither, but also you gotta remember that Java has combat cool downs that don't exist in bedrock so bedrock is naturally gonna be easier if you don't buff the mobs for Java
@@olafboer3435 It's like a mixture of Plantera and EoC. Honestly he'd be fun to fight in terraria, probably would just need a health and speed boost to make it more balanced
@@Joshu_arinalli The wither gets easier because it flies lower to the ground which enables you to kill it with melee which does much more damage than range.
@@Ggs125Yes but fight it in range is better on bedrock because of the lag that generates every 3 seconds, you risk less attacking from distance and you can predict the lag better.
All we want is a true parity patch. Bedrock players want Java exclusive features, and Java players want Bedrock exclusive features, and they both want them with none of the downsides like performance issues and glitches.
Finally, he sort of gets. However, I disagree. I think we should both get the Bedrock wither because the wither is more fun. And taking it away. Is a huge disservice since it's more fun.
From the bedrock communitie. WE ARE CONSTABTLY COMPLAINING??!! Bro I like the harder bedrock wither its more fun, and even the ppl that don't, they don't really complain about it, it's all the java youtubers that bring it up SOOOO MUUUCCHHH!
@@FlaminTurkey imo the only complaint I have with the bedrock wither is how if you decide to fight it in the surface it’ll decide to just dig a sinkhole into the bottom of the world but my counter to that is to just fight it in y-50. Sure it’s unpredictability will make it try to escape but once it reaches half health it won’t be able to escape as easily
*Me and my 4 brothers literally all joined up together to fight the wither and our biggest mistake was to summon him casually on the desert biome, not even underground, and we just got absolutely destroyed😂 We were yelling and screaming, we were dropping like flies even with full netherite protection 4 armor😂 We running back and forth to get our items. We eventually killed it but man it was a hell of a task😂*
As a representative of the bedrock community I would like to politely accept your offer, as I too think our wither is too strong, and mojang has been mean to us for long enough
As a bedrock player I can say it's easier to fight the wither now. In older version of the game (maybe earlier than 1.17 - 1.18) the armor enchantment worked differently, protection enchantment at the time wouldn't provide any damage reduction against potion effect. As a result getting directly hit from it's projectile was certain death.
Hold on, did that change in a patch i didnt know about? Cause ive been using regens, golden apples, and netherite with projectile and explosion protection. Does protection work against status effects like wither now?
So that's why a couple years ago the bedrock wither killed me with full protection 4 netherite armor But it didn't kill me now with protection 4 iron armor
Buddy, I play on switch, I have beaten the wither 3 times (One time I accidentally spawned him outside of a cave and he destroyed EVERYTHING) If you can't beat it, that's a skill issue
I think the Bedrock wither is the wither that more closely matches the developer’s idea. I have fought both withers quite a few times and I think the Java wither is poorly coded.
There are so many technical Minecraft Java farms that rely on the current Wither behaviour, so I seriously doubt Mojang would remove it from Java Edition. However, adding a stronger version of the wither to Java edition via some other multiblock structure (soul soil or something) would be great and probably more viable. This'd also probably mean that the Java wither would get ported to Bedrock, and the Bedrock wither would become the boss for the new multiblock
You also have to remember that the blue wither skull can be deflected So that's an added bonus. Not that I personally use that but I think java people could really Bring the pain
As a bedrock player… you don’t want it. And i don’t want to have to deal with it when I play Java. Counteroffer: option menu switch for “hard wither mode” in both editions. Options people options!
Yeah it’s honestly just a fact that Java is so much easier, I remember the first time I played on Java and previous to this I was fine on bedrock and I honestly thought It would be easier on bedrock but when I played java, everything was so easy, less mobs to deal with and the regen felt so much nicer. It’s like bedrock is a clusterfuck of constant mobs spawning for no reason, feels like your playing a near a mob spawner everywhere. Also another thing to mention, after playing Java for a while and switching back to bedrock for my bedrock friends, I genuinely feel like the game is so much harder than what it used to be, before playing Java I felt like it was Normal, then after Java I felt like it was impossible to do anything
I feel you. After going over to java, I still feel weird walking into giant caves and finding almost no mobs (and of course, using axes instead of swords).
Or you can only fight the stronger one after getting a drop from the weaker 1. Maybe the weaker wither drops 1 super soul sand block. And to fight the stronger wither you need to place 4 blocks of super soul sand. And 3 super wither skeleton skulls (they arent in the game yet so mojang and microsoft could just make you craft them out of 9 wither skeleton skulls). This would be a great idea!
@@Findingusernamesishardya I’m not taking a worse wither fight from a version of minecraft where I can’t make tipped arrows easily unless I use a villager.
but then again, the wither is an optional boss that gives, quite frankly, a meager reward. y’all are really boutta fight a three headed demon just for slightly faster mining speed? if you’re gonna fight it fight it for the experience alone.
Yes, but with how the Bedrock wither works, mainly the massive explosions it randomly creates compared to Java, lag becomes a huge issue especially on lower end consoles and phones. In my last wither fight, the thing went underground from the surface and began exploding in around 15x15x15 block holes, and I was running at about 2 frames a second. That paired with its dashes destroy the world underground and puts tons of blocks on the ground, creating massive amounts of lag. On the plus it's a super efficient cobblestone gathering method
@SyrupSlayer8 frfr I (with my brother) have a survival world (bedrock). We killed the wither with little problems, cows spawned, so it virtually was infinite milk, and we both had golden apples and healing arrows. Yes, we were prepared, we even choose plains, not sooo far of our base bc we wouldn't approach it... The second time, tho, I didn't have my maxed bow (just a crossbow). The problem with that is he lived longer, destroying more, lagging more... geez, in his second phase he reached our base (chests safe gladly) but it destroyed sooo many blocks the game was unplayable for me (phone) and very laggy for my brother (ipad) we had to put the game on pacific, the amount of blocks in the floor was abysmal. (Edit: some corrections)
I have a better idea, give both versions both withers. How this would work would be tou need like 5 with skulls for the Bedrock wither and 3 skulls for the Java wither, so that both version can deal with all wither. (also you could make the Bedrock wither give out more nether stars for a reward for the tougher wither).
As a bedrock player I think this isn't a good trade. I play on PS5 and I don't lag when I fight the wither, that doesn't mean they should make it easy. Make Java get the bedrock wither and nerf the bedrock wither a little bit.
Or you can only fight the stronger one after getting a drop from the weaker 1. Maybe the weaker wither drops 1 super soul sand block. And to fight the stronger wither you need to place 4 blocks of super soul sand. And 3 super wither skeleton skulls (they arent in the game yet so mojang and microsoft could just make you craft them out of 9 wither skeleton skulls). This would be a great idea!
No it isn’t I could barely beat the wither in creative with a netherite sword and also spamming can’t stop the wither from spawning alias and running around the map with its unpredictable movement and dashes which deal 7.5 hearts of damage
As a bedrock player I ain’t accepting that offer cause then the Java players will start complaining how hard Java is and how their hardcore worlds will last 7 minutes
Here's another idea, instead of just trading features, why not add both withers to both versions. Buff the bedrock wither and have it be crafted with a block of ancient debris in the middle or something. Basically have an easy wither and a stronger wither. You may also have to add another drop for the wither just to give an insensitive to fighting the harder one other than just for the challenge.
As a bedrock edition player, i agree like just decrease the health of the wither in bedrock edition and increase the health of wither in java edition, it's not fair like we should equal the health of any of the mobs and one more thing it's not easy to aim in bedrock edition and it's easy to aim in java edition technically, i love java edition because we have to play in a keyboard and not with our hands, that way our hand will hurt, i know that they cannot do anything it
They should have both added, but make the java one done through the normal method, once you kill three and obtain the stars, instead of using the stars for the beacon, you use soul soil and wither skulls to make the body you use picture frames to hold the stars on the soul soil directly beneath the heads, drink a ominous potion, and when you kill the bedrock wither, you don't get a star, but instead, a book called "The Dark Enchantments" and this book is meant to be combined with an Enchantment table. When crafting, it would be the book in the top middle, the enchantment table in the dead center, netherite where the diamonds were to the left and right of the enchantment table and three soul soil in the bottom row, and for extra flair, two more nether stars above the netherite. This new enchantment table has all the old enchantments, but now there's a second page that gives entirely new enchantments like a poison aspect or even a Wither Aspect at the highest level. Though it's highest level requirement will be 50 for stuff like wither aspect and other even higher enchantments.
I used to love when the wither would not only deal high damage but also ignore armour and deal direct damage with that unpredictable pattern that was the ultimate challenge for me and my friends
Thats also why I’m terrified if LTN ever does join an SMP, he’s done it all and nearly learned it all 👁️👁️ I’m just surprised he doesn’t have crippling arthritis but the man’s also a Father soooooo…
Doing this would be kinda hard due to the language difference. Bedrock is written in c++ while Java is written in, well Java. Java was built for networking and small less excessive applications. Not many games are made with Java due to this. While c++ was literally made to communicate to the cpu, gpu, and RAM at a low level. This allows people to make games way easier. So, taking a feature from one language and translating it into another would be nearly impossible. It ain’t impossible but it’s improbable due to developers being lazy (take it from me, I’m a dev). Which is why this will take awhile if they were to go ahead and do it.
I battle the wither, by... 0#..Going quite far away from "home"; 1# Using an island, which I protect with deep slate + obsidian. 2# Using a 3x reinforced conduit + 3# The surrounding water to fight more quickly. 4# Since the wither is an end boss, I fight him on easy first to ... 5# ...Get the very first activated beacon on full power, which I ... 6# Combine with a very strong armour and then ... 7# Some golden apples to make the fight a hell-of-a-lot more manageable! *# Do not forget to protect your cow well, so you only need 3 buckets for the fight! *# This setup is great, because you can use the full environment to your advantage to fight! >> land, sea and air
Can we also trade off our Enderman too? They hate it when we look at them for a mil sec while Java Enderman don’t care for a split sec that they been looked at by the Java player.
The funny thing is that I actually don't find the Wither hard at all on Bedrock. So when I finally played Java and fought a Wither, I found it even easier. My proposal is to buff the Wither to an equal degree in both versions.
It used to be so much worse, the wither effect used to negate all armour enchants completely on Bedrock Edition, making the fight even harder than it is now.
right now twice the health YES A PUNCH WITH YOUR FIST ALSO DEALS TWICE THE HEALTH IN BEDROCK
@@oPlazmaMC why would you fight the wither with your fists? It doesn’t sound very practical
@@dabigfreeze sure but I was just mentioning a lot of things are done with twice the hp
@@oPlazmaMC fair enough
Stop yapping
Please giys,dont make our strong wither as weak as their wither,its our main attraction
JUSTICE FOR THE BEDROCK WITHER!!!
@@Greatest_Villain I never wanted the easy boss,in fact let's talk about your boss,what who? Your mom or your dad? You see tell your dad what happened,oh wait you don't have one ,well tell your mom oh wait...she was to dumb that she got hit by a parked car and died
@@maitumfriendu seem pissed off ? Did you die to a baby slime again ?
@@maitumfriendbro could not hold a argument or even a coherent conversation and immediately insults mums and dads, no wonder bros avater is skibidi toilet 💀
In it , just make the java wither the same as bedrock
The worst part honestly is the fact that if you got hit once, the wither effect would basically kill you no matter what armor you had on.
You should have milk on you to get rid of the effects
@CorynneFord Ahh yes. Because I wanna fill my inventory with 50k buckets of milk. Every hit gives the wither effect. You will get hit more than 5 times during that fight at the very least.
@@smoothfeen6274 True lol; im a coward when it comes to fighting things in minecraft so i usually just drink milk and run away. I've actually never beaten the wither in Java so im curious to see how that will pan out lmao
Have tried to beat the wither on a creative super flat.
It is so much EASIER to fight it with cracked enchants, notch apples and netherite on a flat bedrock. Of course this feels like a no shit Sherlock moment but THAT is the ONLY way to feel like a fair fight.
There is a reason why it's a effect like how poison works but actually kills you instead of putting you in one hp and effects shouldn't be block by armoured it makes sense since there some openings of the armour visually so it kinda makes sense why it's taking the same damage
"And Ive also fought 111 Withers at the same time and won" said DashPum calmly in a monotone voice.
I think one of the main reasons the bedrock wither fight is so hard is that the protection enchantment does not protect against status effects in bedrock. This also makes dealing with witches way more annoying.
Fortunately it does now, i think it was added around 1.18+ update
Fortunately it does now, i think it was added around 1.18+ update
Okay but the wither applies withering which ignores armor on both versions.
Thats not even mentioning the the leytra death glitch
@@Green_swordmasterthis glitch messed me up while building something
Heres a better idea: add both to both games. So they should build it so that Java Wither is built like regular, but Bedrock Wither is built with an extra soul soil at the bottom.
Why not just make the bedrock wither use soul soul instead
@@da3sthebest the pfp 😭
@@Zacvhwhat's wrong with his pfp
Hmm- oh.
I think the Wither should be the same on both versions, (defaulting to the Java Wither)
But you can summon it with extra skulls to make it work like the Bedrock Wither, and it would give you an extra reward.
Maybe the Java wither is just the “wither” and the Bedrock wither is now the “wither storm”
Better idea
Put both versions in both games using soul sand to summon the Java version and soul soil to summon bedrock version or vice versa
The two could also compliment each other with their drops. Like, you kill the easier java wither for the nether star to make a beacon and killing the bedrock one gives you some other item to boost the beacon's range or something
why does this have JUST 6 likes
it’s such a smart idea
How about we go with the theme of the ominous stuff and have both versions get the Java wither and if you fight a wither after drinking an ominous bottle you get the bedrock wither with some new reward
@@taxevasiondinoHere is idea Normal Wither (java wither) will give nether star and bedrock wither will give ultimate nether star which can craft new ultimate beacon and New ultimate sword
thats what i thought
"I've also fought 111 withers at the same time... AND WON" 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
BRO IS HIM
Its not just the wither, the low spawn distance means everywhere that can have mobs becomes flooded with them. Going back to Java the lack of mob swarms in caves and fortresses was a huge relief.
But bedrock has a lower mob cap. So the maximum amount of mobs spawning is way less than in java.
just turn up the simulation distance 👍
@@SomeRandomAsian33yeah but more spawn at once like if you go in a big bedrock cave you will immediately see 1000 baby zombies, skeletons, and creepers on their way to ruin your day but its just not like that in Java
True, I play in easy mode and sometimes even peaceful mode, and I get actual hoards of zombies every night, like 10-15 zombies in a whole herd. Also my zombies and many of my skeletons always have tons of armor, I thought easy mode would be less armor. And every morning there's either creepers or witches hanging out outside my base, depending what biome I slept in. If I camp out on exploration I have to open my tent or hut and run out the door so I can turn around and see my tent was surrounded by creepers waiting to blow me up. And that's easy mode. I can't imagine trying normal or hard mode 😂 especially on my phone. My friend's ps4 is easier to play on but I only have my phone and it's hard not to die in easy mode. Plus the lag..
I started playing Java recently after playing Bedrock for the past 7 years and got so confused why no mobs were spawning.
The Bedrock Wither ain't a Boss, it's considered an Elden Ring Boss
That’s still a boss
@@sxnisterr two different things.
@@23.reasonz Oh c'mon, elden ring ain't that hard. Try gow sigrun, king Rodolfo or gna and you will see what difficulty is.
@AdityaKumar-cn5fn fr. I've been playing ds1. Capra demon and gaping dragon were tough. At Sen's fortress rn.
@@sxnisterr You don’t get the joke
Idea, what if we made both as hard as the bedrock wither, but if you put in easy difficulty it makes it the java wither
good idea ngl
That’s genius
Good idea!
still doesnt solve the lag problem with bedrock users tho
@@ChillFinity2000 just dont summon it
Im just happy to my bedrock version having a Strong Wither rather than Java's Nerfed Wither.
The Jither and the Bither can just stay where they are thank you, I like my wither based farms to be safe.
never heard Jither and Bither before might start using it lol
JITHER AND THE BITHER JITHER AND THE BITHER JITHER AND THE BITHER JITHER AND THE BITHER JITHER AND THE BITHER
Jither tripping
I would like to swap, it would be reasonable
What about the Either?
The challenge of the wither is what makes it fun and exciting, let's keep it strong.
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I propose a compromise; both withers are made the same, with similar abilities. You nerf the bedrock wither, and give the java wither some of the abilities, like the better pathfinding/flying or summoning either skellies.
Nah man give them both the bedrock wither and buff the enderdragon
@@Parrot_carrot HA ok
I got a better compromise, allow PC and console players to change between bedrock and Java
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
this man is a genius
Im floored
@@Parrot_carrotbedrock wither with Java wither regen
I'm just glad the console version of bedrock has keyboard and mouse support, having its own unique mouse cursor for the title menu. Neat!
Ikr, so PC players can only truly complain about Bedrock being buggy/laggy.
If they swap bosses, java players would complain even more about bedrock being so easy 💀
@@liteliteD yeah
Well, what about phone players?
that’s makes absolutely no sense but ok
@@Endy419if u can't defeat wither in ur phone then unistall Minecraft u don't even deserve this game
I have defeated wither 3 years ago on my 3gb ram phone
@Gamestar1st Yes I have the console and it's easier now
As a bedrock player I firmly decline that offer
JUSTICE FOR BEDROCK WITHER!
same
Same
Yeahhh
Kinda agree..... Come on, we all Bedrock players have mastered the our Wither.... The Java Wither being ported to Bedrock would be a shame
I’d actually take one of the features of the new snapshots-how bad omen was revamped to be able to affect various different events-to simultaneously get the benefits of such a trade while also getting version parity and not robbing the cool hard boss from bedrock or the farmable easy boss from the technical minecrafters on java:
- The easy java version becomes the default for both versions, BUT
- in both versions, if the wither is spawned while under a bad omen effect, it spawns as an OMINOUS wither, which has the traits of the current Bedrock wither.
Same solution could also be used to make an ACTUALLY TERRIFYING ender dragon fight while keeping the basic version simple for people who just want to beat the game or open an end gateway.
i would LOVE this
Actually a really good idea @MOJANG
Would there be a reward for beating the "Ominous Wither/Dragon"
That would be pretty cool.
Honestly more boss like mobs in general would be a cool edition.
(Actual bosses though. Not mini bosses like Elder Guardians or glorified Dungeon Guardians like the Warden)
@@drakewahl7609 the so called Red Dragon that was rejected years ago even could be the inspiration behind the Ominous Ender Dragon and so with its egg, it being red instead and some new great late game item
The Ominous effect could and probably will change Minecraft as we know it
Like, other than those changes, it could be used to replace annoying mechanics
Example: Insomnia and Phantoms, instead of being punished for not doing something you don’t want to do, you are able to you yourself inflict insomnia on your person by getting the ominous effect before going to sleep, which would wake you up at the middle of the night with more mobs around, a blood moon and a horde of phantoms (also, a insomnia effect to show what you did and so you can’t sleep until the Insomnia effect goes away, which would make sense not being able to sleep with Insomnia)
The second idea was for a Ominous Ender Dragon drop the Elytra’s and them being removed from the end cities
Those idea, alongside eachother can do great things (phantom farming and elytra farming) while doing something that Minecraft needs to do: balance the elytra (not only is it harder to get, but also harder to repair)
KEEP THE BEDROCK WITHER!! plz, it's one of our special things :)
I never complained about harder it is, it kinda makes the game more fun to play
Fr
I disagree personally
@@champsarr9392yeah spoken like a Java player that gets a hammer that can one shot anything
@@DarkPikachuYTV was I talking to you? No 💀
Yes
I've never seen anybody complain about how hard Bedrock is. I've only seen people complain about how easy Java is.
Literally every single bedrock player I've seen complain that it's too hard
Even though it isn't
I just beat a wither with prot 4 iron armor
And a smite 5 diamonds sword
It's not hard
If it's difficult it's because you the player are bad at The game
The reason why it was much stronger in peoples minds is because it had a glitch where it could go invisible or invincible or both lol
Definitely not why people think that because when I fought it, it didn't do that. It's simply because it's harder, Not because it's was invincible at one point
Even if only summoned skeleton, not even talking about the double health It would be harder, your argument is dumb
No definitely the reason why it was so hard was because of the lag
It does not become invincible it just reaches a point where range attacks do not work anymore and you have to use your sword halfway through it's life and at that point it's constantly exploding which causes crazy lag because the amount of blocks dropped
One of my attempts fighting the wither it dug a hole that was maybe 12 by 12 blocks and 80 blocks deep. So that many block drops caused so much lag it was impossible to even move dropping to maybe one to five frames per second
No as a bedrock player I STRONGLY disagree with this idea, we aren’t complaining we are bragging. It’s nice to have something to hold against the Java players.
Fight Ignis than we can talk
Bedrock has mice too since both consoles and mobile can support them (besides switch)
Who tf wants to buy a mouse for a fucking phone or console? 😡
@@princemc35 people who plays on monitors/perfers them to controllers
@@princemc35are you serious? Like actually serious? Because if you are that’s the funniest thing I’ve hear this year. You can get a mouse and keyboard for like $10 or cheaper. You can find people giving them away. You can even buy a new high quality mechanical keyboard and a good mouse for under $50. That is cheaper than a new controller. Cheaper than some used ones tool.
You can’t seriously be suggesting people would be upset by a purchase of a tool much more useful and cheaper than the price of their controller.
He meant mace i think
Also pretty sure there are new controls for mobile players and you can edit the buttons to play 4 finger claw or more so t
They should give Java the bedrock wither, the whole point of a boss should be difficult and quite frankly once you get decent stuff and a good bow the Java wither is way too easy.
Did you watch the video too?
Then give us Hypixel then,
@@kittiesandbotsgemini9892 no :troll:
Yeah I'd say buff the Java Wither, but also you gotta remember that Java has combat cool downs that don't exist in bedrock so bedrock is naturally gonna be easier if you don't buff the mobs for Java
yo wtf happened to my comment
NOO DON’T TAKE AWAY OUR ACTUALLY CHALLENGING WITHER, IT’S ALL WE HAVE
Alternatively make it difficulty based, like how the keep inventory option is now always on for Peaceful and Easy on Bedrock
That's why BEDROCK players are ABSOLUTE UNITS!
Mobile kids*
YES WE ARE
@@idk19395Nuh uh! I play on my ps5. Beat that🤯🤯
@@idk19395mobile ain’t the only device with bedrock
@@idk19395 WE are Not all mobile Kids i Play bedrock cause i DONT have a PC so i have to Play Minecraft on my ps5
The whither does WHAT NOW? dude , that's a terraria boss
Nah, Eye of Cthulu harder than Ender Dragon and Wither combined, dont compare the difficulty of both games, there’s a clear winner
@@nriwex8331 I know. But look at The bedrock wither attack pattern, and tell Me it's not familiar. It feels like a Terraria Dash boss
@@olafboer3435 Its just the Dash that the EoC does in the second phase
@@olafboer3435 It's like a mixture of Plantera and EoC. Honestly he'd be fun to fight in terraria, probably would just need a health and speed boost to make it more balanced
@@nriwex8331 yes. Hence it feels much more likely a pre-eye terraria boss than a Minecraft enemy
Don’t forget the fact that it becomes immune to all projectiles when it reaches half health
That’s both versions
also that arguably makes it easier since you can melee him
@@Ggs125 no it makes it harder because you can't use range
@@Joshu_arinalli The wither gets easier because it flies lower to the ground which enables you to kill it with melee which does much more damage than range.
@@Ggs125Yes but fight it in range is better on bedrock because of the lag that generates every 3 seconds, you risk less attacking from distance and you can predict the lag better.
All we want is a true parity patch. Bedrock players want Java exclusive features, and Java players want Bedrock exclusive features, and they both want them with none of the downsides like performance issues and glitches.
Meanwhile Warden : EQUALITY
THAT thing literally scares me-
what if they gave the wither that things strength.
@@Jack_o3654 Oh no-. That'd probably be even worse-
@@Jack_o3654 no bro im quiting
@@XDMonshiiee XD I'm with you on that
Finally, he sort of gets. However, I disagree. I think we should both get the Bedrock wither because the wither is more fun. And taking it away. Is a huge disservice since it's more fun.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOOO ITS WAYYY TO HARD AND WE CAN AUTOCLICK
No, let’s both get the Java wither. I want to cheese the wither. I need beacons
@@orangefruit8068ever heard of fun?
@@Nitromonster622 some ppl want easy beacons. some want fights. personnaly, I believe it should be according to difficulty.
NAAHHH, as a bedrock player I appreciate the fact the boss is so hard cuz its more fun
exactly
I don’t appreciate it at all
@@champsarr9392 skill issue get better
yeah, it is alot more fun
@@astrotheunhingedguy says a kid that beats the wither with creative mode
As someone who never fought the wither in many years, i find this intriguing
Yes. Also, piglins in Bedrock are deathly smart AND social, so they will call for reinforcements.
From the bedrock communitie. WE ARE CONSTABTLY COMPLAINING??!! Bro I like the harder bedrock wither its more fun, and even the ppl that don't, they don't really complain about it, it's all the java youtubers that bring it up SOOOO MUUUCCHHH!
Yeah I haven't seen one bedrock youtuber complain about the wither
Exactly, they are just looking for more content. Tbh, the only thing I want from Java is the regeneration.
@@XDAYAL2221and the customization
@@FlaminTurkey imo the only complaint I have with the bedrock wither is how if you decide to fight it in the surface it’ll decide to just dig a sinkhole into the bottom of the world but my counter to that is to just fight it in y-50. Sure it’s unpredictability will make it try to escape but once it reaches half health it won’t be able to escape as easily
@@Biggi19 dude thats so true. I hate that phase of it. Iys not hard its just annoying
*Me and my 4 brothers literally all joined up together to fight the wither and our biggest mistake was to summon him casually on the desert biome, not even underground, and we just got absolutely destroyed😂 We were yelling and screaming, we were dropping like flies even with full netherite protection 4 armor😂 We running back and forth to get our items. We eventually killed it but man it was a hell of a task😂*
Wait srsly? I soloed the wither in like 5 minutes above ground
Summoning underground doesn't help in bedrock edition
Yes, it just breaks free from its containment in Bedrock, its a futile effort, you have to actually fight it
@@aaronyc2011 java edition player spotted
@@Gort_the_serf_SOTY nah I did it on bedrock. It was a piece of cake
As a representative of the bedrock community I would like to politely accept your offer, as I too think our wither is too strong, and mojang has been mean to us for long enough
As a bedrock player I can say it's easier to fight the wither now. In older version of the game (maybe earlier than 1.17 - 1.18) the armor enchantment worked differently, protection enchantment at the time wouldn't provide any damage reduction against potion effect.
As a result getting directly hit from it's projectile was certain death.
Hold on, did that change in a patch i didnt know about? Cause ive been using regens, golden apples, and netherite with projectile and explosion protection.
Does protection work against status effects like wither now?
So that's why a couple years ago the bedrock wither killed me with full protection 4 netherite armor
But it didn't kill me now with protection 4 iron armor
Good trade offer i have never thought about that
this offer boutta make better ones than those villager trades
@@profglenn for real
It's a terrible trade offer. Why not just give us both the good fun bedrock wither
@@Greatcelestialkaligo as a nintendo switch minecraft player i feel violated
Buddy, I play on switch, I have beaten the wither 3 times (One time I accidentally spawned him outside of a cave and he destroyed EVERYTHING) If you can't beat it, that's a skill issue
"i was a buisness man, doing nuissness" taken to a whole new level 💀💀💀
edit: ONG 152 LIKES???????
nuissness yes
Earned a dislike for the edit my guy
@@cHezzAninja typo lol
I think the Bedrock wither is the wither that more closely matches the developer’s idea. I have fought both withers quite a few times and I think the Java wither is poorly coded.
They should add both, with java being the default but you can upgrade it with an item for a harder fight
I think on easy difficulty both versions should have the Java wither and on hard both the bedrock wither. On Medium I would do it like you said.
Man just give us the fast regen we don't need that wither
Oh thanks now can you deal with the atrocious mob spawn rate?
We don’t want your wither, we just want you to feel our pain
I do want them to have the wither as well as us, but I agree , I want them to feel pain more than my feelings of Equity
@@Greatcelestialkaligobro we both know you are a Java player
@@Random_Account1234 nope legacy player then bedrock I can't afford a pc
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 exactly
NO WE DONT STOP LET US KEEP OUR WITHER
There are so many technical Minecraft Java farms that rely on the current Wither behaviour, so I seriously doubt Mojang would remove it from Java Edition.
However, adding a stronger version of the wither to Java edition via some other multiblock structure (soul soil or something) would be great and probably more viable. This'd also probably mean that the Java wither would get ported to Bedrock, and the Bedrock wither would become the boss for the new multiblock
coudl be just using a difrent head in the middle
who tf farms nether stars
@@pokade3659 whiter roses
@@Shadow30.wither rose farms wouldn’t change between versions..
@@Shadow30. even more useless than cactus farms
When the boss designed to be difficult is actually difficult
Will the skull staff thingy have a demonizer?
As an IPAD kid I am in support of this trade offer.
You also have to remember that the blue wither skull can be deflected So that's an added bonus. Not that I personally use that but I think java people could really Bring the pain
That's why bedrock is unique ain't no way mojang is doing tht trade
JUSTICE FOR BEDROCK WITHER!!!
It's a terrible trade
It’s a great trade
@@champsarr9392no it’s not
@@PitsaGuy1 yes it is
Honestly the least I want is faster regeneration because it’s always making me super cautious in survival when roaming in caves or at night
And don’t forget in bedrock diamonds spawn less
As a bedrock player… you don’t want it. And i don’t want to have to deal with it when I play Java. Counteroffer: option menu switch for “hard wither mode” in both editions. Options people options!
Sack up.
Yeah it’s honestly just a fact that Java is so much easier, I remember the first time I played on Java and previous to this I was fine on bedrock and I honestly thought It would be easier on bedrock but when I played java, everything was so easy, less mobs to deal with and the regen felt so much nicer. It’s like bedrock is a clusterfuck of constant mobs spawning for no reason, feels like your playing a near a mob spawner everywhere. Also another thing to mention, after playing Java for a while and switching back to bedrock for my bedrock friends, I genuinely feel like the game is so much harder than what it used to be, before playing Java I felt like it was Normal, then after Java I felt like it was impossible to do anything
I feel you. After going over to java, I still feel weird walking into giant caves and finding almost no mobs (and of course, using axes instead of swords).
The only problem I have with bedrock is the fact that most of the farms don’t work
How about having both withers in both versions, and the weaker one is summoned using soul soil, while the stronger one is summoned using soul sand?
Or you can only fight the stronger one after getting a drop from the weaker 1. Maybe the weaker wither drops 1 super soul sand block. And to fight the stronger wither you need to place 4 blocks of super soul sand. And 3 super wither skeleton skulls (they arent in the game yet so mojang and microsoft could just make you craft them out of 9 wither skeleton skulls). This would be a great idea!
Only if we get a wither storm >:O
@@Emperorflimsywhale_CW the wither skeleton skulls would be a pain to get. I like the super soul sand tho
@@hi_there._why_r_u_reading_this thx.
Calling multiple computer mouse mice is the most gamer thing to say.
No.
Even tho im bedrock edition player and the wither is hard, it is also much cooler and fun to fight
Exacly its a shame its on The inferior version so we take the trade
JUSTICE FOR BEDROCK WITHER!!!
@@Findingusernamesishardya I’m not taking a worse wither fight from a version of minecraft where I can’t make tipped arrows easily unless I use a villager.
@@bingobo2551 WTF kind of argument is that , who even uses tipped arrows and if you do just brew a potion and craft its not hard bruv
@@Findingusernamesishard but I need my arrows of decay.
yeah that's a good idea. An alternative idea would be to lock the bedrock wither behind hard difficulty
but then again, the wither is an optional boss that gives, quite frankly, a meager reward. y’all are really boutta fight a three headed demon just for slightly faster mining speed? if you’re gonna fight it fight it for the experience alone.
Bad offer the ppl who cant kill the bedrock wither are either bad or just unprepared
JUSTICE FOR THE BEDROCK WITHER!!!
True. For me it was difficult at first but later on it started to get easy
Can you kill the bedrock wither?
Exactly. It is a hard fight even for me. A God gamer, God Amongst ants. Why not just give it to both of us?
@@kreamson8456 yeah i can actually
Dang your so smart you just gained a new subscriber
i agree the hardest part of killing the java wither is getting th 3 skulls
As a Bedrock player I don't want to do this trade because it's fun to fight it and I am not going to buy PC to buy Java
Why not just give both the bedrock wither and fix the regeneration much better
Lag is a WAYYY bigger issue on PC than console, including framerate, and chunks.
Yes, but with how the Bedrock wither works, mainly the massive explosions it randomly creates compared to Java, lag becomes a huge issue especially on lower end consoles and phones. In my last wither fight, the thing went underground from the surface and began exploding in around 15x15x15 block holes, and I was running at about 2 frames a second. That paired with its dashes destroy the world underground and puts tons of blocks on the ground, creating massive amounts of lag. On the plus it's a super efficient cobblestone gathering method
@SyrupSlayer8 frfr
I (with my brother) have a survival world (bedrock). We killed the wither with little problems, cows spawned, so it virtually was infinite milk, and we both had golden apples and healing arrows. Yes, we were prepared, we even choose plains, not sooo far of our base bc we wouldn't approach it...
The second time, tho, I didn't have my maxed bow (just a crossbow). The problem with that is he lived longer, destroying more, lagging more... geez, in his second phase he reached our base (chests safe gladly) but it destroyed sooo many blocks the game was unplayable for me (phone) and very laggy for my brother (ipad) we had to put the game on pacific, the amount of blocks in the floor was abysmal.
(Edit: some corrections)
Bro needs to be hired by Mojang
Also is that the wither on bedrock is a bit easier for pros cuz you can spam click on bedrock😅
I have a better idea, give both versions both withers. How this would work would be tou need like 5 with skulls for the Bedrock wither and 3 skulls for the Java wither, so that both version can deal with all wither. (also you could make the Bedrock wither give out more nether stars for a reward for the tougher wither).
As a bedrock player I think this isn't a good trade. I play on PS5 and I don't lag when I fight the wither, that doesn't mean they should make it easy. Make Java get the bedrock wither and nerf the bedrock wither a little bit.
Or you can only fight the stronger one after getting a drop from the weaker 1. Maybe the weaker wither drops 1 super soul sand block. And to fight the stronger wither you need to place 4 blocks of super soul sand. And 3 super wither skeleton skulls (they arent in the game yet so mojang and microsoft could just make you craft them out of 9 wither skeleton skulls). This would be a great idea!
lag is a big problem on phones and older consoles, and pcs (as an Xbox, and now pc but I used to play on an HP laptop player
Or how about we just combine both the versions all together
bedrock wither actually feels like a boss fight
Just make it based on world difficulty
Already is
On bedrock easy doesn't give wither or spawn wither skeles
@@a_guy18 I meant for both, like both java and bed easy get the java wither and hard is bedrock wither, medium is something in between
Bedrock players have spam clicking bro, it’s way easier than java
That wouldn't help when the wither is literally flying half of the time💀 so your point is?
Have you tried spamclicking the wither when it's basically out of reach?
Have you tried span clicking the wither with a controller or a phone?
Have you tried jumping 30 blocks into a cave because the wither does that? Have you ever heard of s?
No it isn’t I could barely beat the wither in creative with a netherite sword and also spamming can’t stop the wither from spawning alias and running around the map with its unpredictable movement and dashes which deal 7.5 hearts of damage
As a bedrock player I ain’t accepting that offer cause then the Java players will start complaining how hard Java is and how their hardcore worlds will last 7 minutes
Here's another idea, instead of just trading features, why not add both withers to both versions. Buff the bedrock wither and have it be crafted with a block of ancient debris in the middle or something. Basically have an easy wither and a stronger wither. You may also have to add another drop for the wither just to give an insensitive to fighting the harder one other than just for the challenge.
Except the Java Wither regenerates health and constantly flies up.
As a bedrock edition player, i agree like just decrease the health of the wither in bedrock edition and increase the health of wither in java edition, it's not fair like we should equal the health of any of the mobs and one more thing it's not easy to aim in bedrock edition and it's easy to aim in java edition technically, i love java edition because we have to play in a keyboard and not with our hands, that way our hand will hurt, i know that they cannot do anything it
"Bedrock players complain about how hard their version is"
Never heard someone say that bedrock is too hard.
Minecraft bosses:😎🤓🤓
Terraria bosses:☠️💀💀
Also this two game is my favorite 🙂🙂
I would love to see a dashing attach for the wither in java, and also spawning wither skeletons
The wither was indeed pretty hard, but in creative, it's pretty fun to pit him against the ender dragon and see how many can beat the wither
They should have both added, but make the java one done through the normal method, once you kill three and obtain the stars, instead of using the stars for the beacon, you use soul soil and wither skulls to make the body you use picture frames to hold the stars on the soul soil directly beneath the heads, drink a ominous potion, and when you kill the bedrock wither, you don't get a star, but instead, a book called "The Dark Enchantments" and this book is meant to be combined with an Enchantment table. When crafting, it would be the book in the top middle, the enchantment table in the dead center, netherite where the diamonds were to the left and right of the enchantment table and three soul soil in the bottom row, and for extra flair, two more nether stars above the netherite. This new enchantment table has all the old enchantments, but now there's a second page that gives entirely new enchantments like a poison aspect or even a Wither Aspect at the highest level. Though it's highest level requirement will be 50 for stuff like wither aspect and other even higher enchantments.
I actually agree with u, even if im not that mutch pro (playing Java )
Honestly I'm just surprised there's no mod that beings the bedrock wither into java
Do i have a mix between both mine has java and bedrock things minus the command block
I used to love when the wither would not only deal high damage but also ignore armour and deal direct damage with that unpredictable pattern that was the ultimate challenge for me and my friends
Tbh i think there should be a setting where you can make wither easy or hard
Thats also why I’m terrified if LTN ever does join an SMP, he’s done it all and nearly learned it all 👁️👁️
I’m just surprised he doesn’t have crippling arthritis but the man’s also a Father soooooo…
I love your videos 😊
If you build a room under water, you can more easily kill the wither.
Doing this would be kinda hard due to the language difference. Bedrock is written in c++ while Java is written in, well Java. Java was built for networking and small less excessive applications. Not many games are made with Java due to this. While c++ was literally made to communicate to the cpu, gpu, and RAM at a low level. This allows people to make games way easier. So, taking a feature from one language and translating it into another would be nearly impossible. It ain’t impossible but it’s improbable due to developers being lazy (take it from me, I’m a dev). Which is why this will take awhile if they were to go ahead and do it.
What's the difference between java and bedrock?
I battle the wither, by...
0#..Going quite far away from "home";
1# Using an island, which I protect with deep slate + obsidian.
2# Using a 3x reinforced conduit +
3# The surrounding water to fight more quickly.
4# Since the wither is an end boss, I fight him on easy first to ...
5# ...Get the very first activated beacon on full power, which I ...
6# Combine with a very strong armour and then ...
7# Some golden apples to make the fight a hell-of-a-lot more manageable!
*# Do not forget to protect your cow well, so you only need 3 buckets for the fight!
*# This setup is great, because you can use the full environment to your advantage to fight!
>> land, sea and air
Can we also trade off our Enderman too? They hate it when we look at them for a mil sec while Java Enderman don’t care for a split sec that they been looked at by the Java player.
The funny thing is that I actually don't find the Wither hard at all on Bedrock. So when I finally played Java and fought a Wither, I found it even easier. My proposal is to buff the Wither to an equal degree in both versions.