We Need To Talk About WIPES In Lost Light
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Wipes are coming to Lost Light and we need to talk about it.
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First of all, as a player who started playing the game back in SS2 test beta phase, I appreciate everyone that made the content about the game. Not many people know about this game (or even at all).
Back to the topic.
I think Netease made many mistake in this open beta. Back in SS1 (from what I heard) or even SS2, the game is pretty balanced. Wiping was announced only a few weeks beforehand but mostly for major overhauled (SS1 to SS2 for UI & gunplays, same with SS2 to SS3).
They made a huge mistake by setting the target too damn high for both serum & pheromones. It's already bs for serum (total of 80 mil? I think only 1% of players has that kind of money) but the pheromones is the last straw for people to drop the game.
It was so obvious that each region has unequal amount of player base, even back in beta. For example, Asia server is in no way has the same amount of players as Europe or US. I have to wait like 3-4 mins for a game and it always against bots like 90% of the time. Asian players aren't familiar with the wiping concept (Tarkov is a thing here but very niche compare to other common FPS games, especially on mobile). Worse, it was so obvious from day 1 that the pheromones dropping rate were wayyy too low. In span of first 2 weeks, I only found less than 10 bottles. And with all of these, the progress struck like 6-7% while EU is already reached 10-ish or so.
Worst, the submit system. It kills the game entirely. Back in test beta, all item & equipment was unlocked along with player level. You cannot buy T5/T6 ammo directly from Heidi untill you're at level 50 except for a limited amount from hidden smuggling (150 ammo per player/round) same as T5/6 equipment.
As MM (matchmaking) system was weighting on the value of your equipment, player level and ranking, when you're at low level which also mean low ranking and cheap equipment, you'll match with players at similar equipments/level (basically balanced). Now the system is broken, you can equipped like T5/T6 ammos and equipment and abused the MM system either matching against higher tier players (and died as they're more experienced then ranted on Discord or facebook and dropped the game) or lower tier players (which discouraged them and dropped the game. I mean who wants to play against fully geared players when you're wearing T3 or T4 kits).
And what the devs are doing? Keep releasing the new skins and earning moneys.
It's very sad to see the game coming to this state.
what serum and pheromones for ?
I myself believe that the Lost Light wipes are fine depending on the playerbase because of the levels and ranks
My opinion since im casual player game used to be epic but whe they added wipe the killed it what rhey needed to do is to make seperate room for money spenders restrict them to enter low rank games and be done with it
@btnpermata444 to stop wipe. It's stupid an wipes make no reason to even play this awesome game 😢
I truly like the idea of it, I’m one to loot for value, I’ll sell what’s useless, dismantle what’s needed and find what’s needed, regardless of that, I’m not one to go in expecting to win, I tend to think of it as, it’s all our loot and whoever has it next, is there turn to use it.
Edit: I’m a casual, even then I’m less then a few hours a week, maybe a couple to a few games a week and honestly no it does not devastate me bc I’d only have ninety days to use what’s kept, I can do it again when I’m playing after the wipe.
I love the excitement of starting on a fresh wipe, however i also understand not everyone has the time to do that. This game wipes way too frequently for the casual and non casual players. Yeah the game might be dull for some once they unlock everything and not everyone enjoys the scuffed ranked system in this game (exploited heavily by teamers with 0 punishment) they need to renovate what the endgame is because it doesn't feel rewarding or satisfying at all. I played for an entire month since release and haven't unlocked a single Class 5 body armor yet 2 friends did (Thanks Raymond rng), the current unlock system on top of the horrible battlepass and lack of communication/monetization is very disappointing.
I’m also struggling with the class 5 armors. I’ve found several but none sellable for some reason. I hope they rebalance the endgame and ranked with the wipe. They really gotta take their chances with wipes to do rebalancing in my opinion.
Hehe, I haven't found FMJ ammo yet:/.
i just started last week and after knowing all this in the midst of me enjoying the game, i guess i’ll just drop this game sooner or later. I don’t wanna spend my time grinding for nothing.
People like to say they'll quit, but in reality, half of those people won't actually quit.
The problem is the fact it doesn’t stop pay to win gameplay. When you’re able to buy all of the materials you need to keep all of the things you paid for, then it doesn’t do anyone any good other than the people who throw money at the game. ONE of the serums costs 20mil and they’re limited. But oh, looks like I can spend $30 and buy ALL 3 of them from the exclusive shop.
imagine spedning 100 days of gameplays,farming,lvl up all of this just for you to wake up and have none of it except the loss of 100 days of lifetime
I love watching you and I have benefited a lot from your advice, but the sad thing is that you do not get enough support
Cheers! I'm glad my videos have been helpful.
Honestly I am one of those new players but came from AB(arena battle). When I started I couldn’t find much tips on maps or much recent content for Lost Light like AB also finding out most AB players use to play Lost Light. This shows that Lost Light needs changes as it’s not keeping player base.
I thought about buying battles pass but after finding out what wipe does I have no intentions to buy anything in game. To me wipe wouldn’t matter if my pounds weren’t getting deleted. But seems like everything will be gone. I don’t think wipe is necessary I get updates are needed but Lost Light is a quick version of tarkov it’s easy to get gear especially since you can spawn in more than once and take gear from NPC. Example AB didn’t wipe anything and they did a big update sadly having bugs but it didn’t change a thing and people are happy and people are happy to continue their subscriptions. If Lost Light wants to grow or make money they need to keep players. If not it’s gonna die off. Also personal opinion hate per function the abilities they have doesn’t keep the game realistic in the point of survival aspects. You mind as will start making birds fly in and all these weird gadgets that makes survival none survival instinct anymore.
So game would be great if the change how wipes and get rid of pet abilities. I get having a case in game so take abilities away.
The big thing that turned me off from it was how they implemented the anti bodies. It seems like they just decided to give people an impossible task to keep them playing the game.
This has a huge chance of wrecking the game.
Definitely. It wouldn't be to bad if it felt like we had a fighting chance. I still don't mind the wipes though. The game will still be fun.
Antibodies were collected this wipe. So not impossible at least anymore.
Great video explaining the wipe mechanic. Like you, I feel they are necessary, but need to have a reason to be done. There is a lot Netease has to change if they want this game to stay viable, including making the game actually work which seems to be an issue lately. I hope they can get their game together, I would hate to see it die off because of greed and incompetence.
That is the great thing about wipes. They can be a fresh start for both the players AND the game. If they do it right.
@@PusenGaming I am doing research regarding wipes for a video essay. I am curious as to why some people believe wipes to be necessary instead of better balancing. Thoughts?
I play the mobile version of this game and I have reached above the required Hela Antibodies which is 1,250,000 something. Its also worth mentioning I'm playing at Asia Server. Hela Antibodies are almost common drop but idk if the same thing works of the pc version.
Wipe is the best thing that can happen in such games like this. Casual players should be happy about this because players that are way ahead will be draw back in the progress. The game have poor matchmaking and i as a falcon i'm constantly thrown in to matches with dragons and lions who destroy me with ease. Wipe will even a chance against sweaty players with lvl6 armors, best ammo and so on.
Yep, this is the upsides to a wipe. Leveling the playing field for everyone.
I just started playing this game last week and it’s a great game, spent a few bucks and I’m not use to wipes but losing my progress so sudden (in less than 30 days) along with a few bucks on gear/supplies etc.. crazy. But again i just started playing so I’ll give it a shot, maybe it’ll change
What I hate about this the most is the antibody low drop rate and the sheer amount we have to turn in I think I managed to get at least 30 and I am not a casual player I at least believe for 2 hours every day
That's a lot! Way more than the average players I would assume. I've played around 40 hours this season and I've found less than 10 total.
I'm hoping they'll have a third serum available in another event like Thanksgiving or something. I say Thanksgiving cause it says the season would end by the end of November so 🤷
Let's hope so! I still haven't seen one drop in a game. Haven't heard from any others who have either.
I like this game because is like Escape from Tarkov but more easy. I'm new in a game and I'm afraid by the wipe. I hope the game will be good
Hello. I just found this game yesterday and I'm hooked, it's so refreshing and so fun. I'm wondering when the next wipe will be? And am I able to keep anything at all, and if so, how?
This video is a year old and I think there are wipes every 35 days it’s called an outbreak I think I’m not sure cause I just started playing again and logged onto my old account and everything was gone but I’ve been playing for 2 days and already have 10 million and bunch of armor and guns if there is a wipe I don’t mind cause it’s fun starting fresh only thing I don’t like about it is having to upgrade everything in my base again
I hate they took armour off the characters. Back then you just saw what the guy is packing and if it was worth messing with him. ...
Probably preparing to do more paid skins to change player's visuals.
Honestly, they can wipe my gear... just dont wipe my base, it took so long to get the upgrades. (casual player)
Looks like both will be wiping at this point with how the Antibodies are looking. Unless you get the targeted serums which means you’ll get to keep your character.
There are far greater turndowns to this game than wipes… the option to team up in solos, plus teaming in general, many bugs like spawning directly next to other players, the return system, no fpp option, a poorly designed ranked mode… just to mention a few points
Fair points here. Wipes are a great chance to rebalance the game so I hope they take the feedback they’re getting to heart.
While watching the videa, I just remembered that we have to grind throu unlocking system again. You probably include this under the progression but this is a huge topic in my opinion since you can't only level up and unlock items, you have to hand over them too. This is ridicilous...
That will be quite painful. I hope they take my (and others) feedback and add a way to see if we need weapon parts or ammo while we're in a raid. That will make it at least a little bit easier.
how to show armor and helmet...i just want that☹️☹️☹️
FOR ME matchmaking is the biggest issue. can't play in sqauds with friends if not wait for 10 minutes matchmaking and unbalanced ranked lobbies. i am falcon and i play against dragons, it is not fair at all. i did quit this game for these things, didn't manage to reach wipe "opinion".
That's a shame. I've only ever played solo and matchmaking is pretty smooth. I hear a lot of people mention the unfair rank matching. It never happened to me but I guess I've been lucky. I either get same ranks or below.
I have made the antibodies and the pheromone viles
Definitely its only feels like youre playing a realy long game of DOTA or LOL witch you reset every time you do a new game but here it hapens every season or 90days or so..
The wipe is in this game bcs this game is base on tarkov and in tarkov are like that
The wipe is gonna come because all the players that are needed to hand in antibodies won't be able to, because they'll all be banned for "hacking", perhaps for having a 45:1 K/D ratio because the game is so easy
I did see they have banned almost 3000 people over the last few weeks. Luckily I'm not good enough to be in the danger zone :P
I've been playing the game from the time it came out
Time to go on arena breakout.. 🤭
I don't spend any amount of money on a game. But i understand those who pay. To be fair to them i think items that are paid should not be included on wipes.
I watch a few other video about shelter box to store a few items when big wipe happen. How to unlock shelter box ?
I think it shows up later in the season when we're getting closer to the wipe.
I don't mind the wipe for my items but my base 😭 I work soooo hard to get my base lvl up
Will we loose the companion after wipe even after submiting hela antibodies ?
New player, in my first week. I'll definitely quit and certainly not spend any money if there are going to be wipes, especially including wiping paid stuffs.
A better way to level the playing field is to use ELO rankings in pvp to keep a challenge there as well as lore difficult map areas for pvp change.
I've never played Tarkov. Does it have base building? There's ZERO motivation for me to play a game with base progression if that progression is going to be wiped.
How do I insure equipment in lost light?
I don't mind a wipe overall, but tying item unlocks to the base which is almost guaranteed to wipe is infuriating. There are some things that I only just now unlocked at almost 300 hours of playtime and still many more that I want and have never found. Resetting that is absolute bullshit of the highest order and I'm on the fence about continuing in that event.
Unlocking new stuff will be a pain. I hope they overhaul that system entirely. It hasn't been very well received by the community.
@@PusenGaming yeah, I'm not a fan. It should either be level locked or tied to missions from Heidi. Being forced to rely on RNG is just tiring.
I think the reason wipe are bad in this game is bc they hand out too much t4 armor making t4 pen the normal but in early game that dose not exis meaning is almost like wipe never happened and every one no longer have their gear compared to t3 t2 even late wipe in tarkov
Fair point that I hadn’t thought of. I don’t think I’ve ever ran with T3 or T2 armor. I’ve always just had T4. They should rebalance that to make lower tier gear more relevant in the early game.
What make it not relevant was because the smuggling shop that reset every hour. Veteran player will immediatly upgrade their trade center in day 1 after wipe to level 3-4 to buy T5-T6 armor and T5-T6 ammo .
You answered it, people will simply quit if forced to start over. One mass quit and loss of market share. The people they will lose are the coiners. People paying for content they don’t own and can’t keep will be furious. No one pays for content and has it taken and continues playing.
Net Ease knows this well because people began refusing to start from square 1 every time they launch a new server. This is poor server management on the developers part.
They won’t do this for long. They will be losing something more than their money. They are compromising their brand image as a developer and any APK bearing their logo will be smeared.
Other developers have undergone similar imposing unpopular mechanics and policies. There are a list of these failed developers dating back to Machine Zone in 2014 who now has no presence and is buried in lawsuits. The market will dictate the outcome.
Wipes make the game more fun, because u need to restart everything, u get bored without it
I just had my account wiped , I swear to god bro I got the guns I wanted , took a break and all gone before I used them , these wipes are trash . I think I'm going to quit , I'm not gonna grind for all that stuff anymore 😔😭😭😭
The whole collecting serum thing is confusing me
Iam mad about the wipe. knowing my acc gonna be reset to zero. but i looked up and saw high ranked players who put their account to TOP Server.
even 1 of them reached 1 Billion total Value,and iam like.. okay i have to chill 😁
At least the people with those kinds of numbers have the time to do the grind over again without any issues :P
I won't stop playing because of a wipe. I just worked hard to get all my loot. My guy is currently worth 44 million whatever that means. But last wipe I immediately had so much gold stuff it was unreal so wipes dont mean anything to me
Indeed. It’s not that hard to stack value once you get in some consistent loot routes. I’ve been considering if I should make some videos with my loot routes but don’t want to share all my secrets 😛
@@PusenGaming plz share them I need help. I'm the casual player u was talking about I only get to play a few hrs a week but all my value comes from the pass. Even once it wipes I get the pads right back and there's alot of guns and gold armor in the pass. So idk to me it don't make a difference I'll not stop playing ether way.
@@Kevlar_Nutz I'll look into it!
@@PusenGaming well there is 2 type player. 1. that diligently looting and fight for loot, and 2. Lazy ass player that just wait at ekstraction zone and kill the type 1 player ( thats me LoL , watching netflix while waiting at ektract ).
You asked us to assume for a second and you assumed for the entire video lol
I have a question im new to Lost light... so when the wipe occurs will the things that i lvl up will reset? And will my money also reset? Thank you in advance
Yes. Your shelter and character will be reset.
today is my first time playing this game, the first thing i say is matchmaking needs to be balanced and wipes only make it worse. is it possible that wipes are made to only lose 1 item?
Relax. Later when you already good at this game, Wipe doesnt really matter.
Well it wouldn't really be a wipe if you only lost one item would it :P
Hi guys today I got a response from Netease Games Global, they said; Dear player, we're sorry to hear that you're not satisfied with the current state of our game. We're forwarded your message to our team as our goal is to make the game enjoyable for everyone. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts!
Standard copy paste bot response. A real human never read your message
@@mihalyshilage5826 Yea i wonder if "the team" ever contected him back.
is the safe going to be wiped too?
I don't like wipes.... I mean I'm wasting time for what ? i dont mind if they Wipe my EQ, but not my Progress, like weapons, amo and other stuff.
rust is more peinful but its fun becose you get new experiance 😊
First, WIPE IS NORMAL FOR GAME LIKE THIS. For those who thinks move to arena breakout is idiot things to do since arena breakout is also HAVE WIPE SERVER. Then you gonna ask how prevent this because I don't like to re-upgrade my base? Well, DO NOT EVER TOUCH LOOTER-SHOOTER-EXTRACTION-GAME AND RANTING LIKE AN IDIOT PLAYING GAMES WITHOUT ANY MINIMAL UNDERSTANDING ABOUT HOW THE GAME WORKS IN THE LONG RUN! And every single of game like that will have wipe server. Reasons: balancing player & new players can start from 0 and have a fair fight in game.
Second, battlepass items. Yes this is very bad. Almost 80% is resources & equipments and basically p2w to have better base and faster. The suggestion IMO is make every single of resources in battlepass to free & paid battlepass only contains skins & costumes whichcounted as premium item that will not be wiped. And The Cycle Frontier have a great ways to make just like that.
The battle pass definitely needs some overhauling. It's not in a good state as is.
I'm a casual player started with tarkov now I'm playing this I like the wipe after all lost my old account got a new one not even a week ago already level 34 its not that hard so I'm ready won't even take a week to get my old stuff plus I can get some freinds on and they'll be the same level as me
that sucks, b/c the server i'm in, we already had ours finished 2 weeks ago. I think they need to build PvE servers. You cannot use that gear for pvp.
I think Europe had this finished way before the halfway mark. They should try and balance it so it's a little bit of a challenge but still attainable.
they need to add first person, make the tutorial shorter, make the ability to kill people from a distance
First person would add so much to the game. I mostly play with snipers these days due to all other guns being so weak long range. Keeping it simple with a molte and level 4 armor piercing ammo.
i dont think wipes are bad, casual players need to learn one thing and its called respect , you cant come to my home and play like you are the master. to become a master you need to play, and earn your respect ;) i enjoy this game becouse its easy and its hard, ESP its to hard for me like casual player, i want have fun and this game provide it ;) you can die come back , loot maybe your shit, and keep going . maybe you can kill your killer and get revenge(mostly i died again , but who cares)
I could care less I just do pistol runs, wait is it supposed to be hard to reach lvl 20 😅 suppose that's why I'm always getting thrown into lobbies with high KD players 😶🌫️
I don’t know why wipes are such a big deal? It gives everyone a fresh start and an equal chance, games like rust and escape from tarkov wipe every month and I don’t see people complaining
Yep! There’s a reason I mentioned both these games in the video. They’re pretty much integral to the games at this point.
I hate wipe because weapon attachment is soooo hard to find i my self level 62 and i have no full gear m4 -*-
I hope they re-balance or overhaul the unlocking system.
Will they ever release controller support for mobile players ?
Hmm, no idea about this. Maybe in the future.
I wouldn't mind wipes if they happened to everyone. Now it only multiplies the effect of p2w this game has.
I don't like the wipe for players like me that played for free and savings all money and gears😭
i don't like this even a bit
I tried this game. it's just too complicated for my taste, especially for a mobile game.
Fair enough. I can’t stand controls for games like these on mobile personally.
Wipes are the dumbest idea ever. I just wasted 21hrs of my life for absolutely nothing.
So easy to get loot have 12 mil worth of stash and I've been playing for 2 days lol its ex ion trippin wipe it wont matter
Wait Is The Wipes Real? Whats The Point To Pay Real Money For This Game Then?
The wipes are real. Paying makes your life easier while playing. Only cosmetics are permanent.
This game is quite fun to play, but the p2w mechanics destroy all of that.
I haven’t played in a whole. Had it got worse with monetization?
@@PusenGaming Not quite sure if it has gotten worse, i have only started playing it a few weeks ago. But its really bad for sure, you can buy like everything. Items, guns, armor, revives, ingame currency and a lot more. That just gets rid of all of the fun. A wipe would be completely useless because some players could just buy the best guns, ammo and armor right after the wipe. Wipes in this game just seem like something just to get the players to spend even more money.
I agree with you opinion bro is so boring do a same thing.btw you getting near to get 900 sub, I hope you can get 1k sub before December. i Love your content bro 👍
Cheers! Getting there in terms of subs. One day at a time!
They need to get rid of bots
The bots mimicking players are a plague, I agree.
In the first place, there shldnt be such thing as the anti body thing cus it’s dumb and controversial
I think it's a cool mechanic on paper but executed poorly. Quite evident from the fact that all regions are so far behind.
@@PusenGaming i think the anti-bodies mechanic is a nice concept, it gives a goal to pursue so you have something else to care about. But on top of the hela antibodies don't forget about the Serum. The problem is that the Anti-Bodies drop rate is shit, and many ppl are just leaving them behind. I've alreay found several loot boxes from players with several HELA inside.
The ranked system has really bad matchmaking...but worst of all is the crossplatform. Mobile players are at huge disavantage against pc players.
Hope they improve the game cause i'v been having lots of fun with it
@@Cinestesic I was killed by a player yesterday while carrying 2 antibodies. I was more mad about the antibodies than actually dying. Let's hope he took them :P
Casual players should gtfo games like these and more hardcore ones
Njir maksa banget buat main tiap hari,mending main arena breakout aja masih bisa santai santai, apalagi ni serum sulit buat di dapat kan
Already stop playing...
That's a shame!
we are filthy casuals. we want wipes. hahahaha
Stop crying abt the wipe... It is Necessary..
As I mentioned in the video I am for wipes.
Tbh your right cuz i did jus started playing with 5 other friends of mine an we all said if that happens were jus gonna stick to tarkov. This game with wipes. Nope 👎🏽
Fair enough, but I'm curious. What makes wipes ok in Tarkov and not Lost Light?
im suprised game still running till now. unistalled again anyways.
we are 637780 way there on mobile