Different physics engine, but yeah, it should be possible. These planes had the ability to glide quite well even with low power source aka one engine. It still depends on the condition of the airframe though.
Technically if you get rid of all the excess weight, ie guns, ammo, oxygen bottles, excess fuel, the odd crewmember😂 you should be able to fly on one engine for quite a while. Plenty of 17s came home on one engine. Not so many successfully landed with only one wheel down though.
@@thebollock9427 'not so many' so was there an invisible wheel there or did God just go "Fuck it" and shift the center of mass in the plane that the entire plane could stand still on one wheel?
@@EstonianShark Nah man, if they were almost home, plenty of opposite rudder and moderate throttle would keep you on the air a fair bit longer. On one engine you're always coming down, but if your increasing your time in the air, might just get you home.
Highlights: 3:00 "A little misaligned, but at least we have both wheels." 3:07 "Well, no longer..." 5:42 Flugabwehrbäume. 8:45 Riveting Rosies vs. Hammering Huns: 1 - 0. 9:40 Eurobeat intensifies. 10:25 Handbrake parking. 15:08 U Can't Touch This.
We used to call those "invisi-trees" ... caught out most of us at one point or another... god bless respawns! Landed a 17 before with only rudder and two outboard engines... those were the days ;)
The one when he landed the B-17 without the Vertical Stabilizer caught me off guard so bad! The skill to make it FROM your target and get BACK WITHOUT YOUR GOD DAMN TAIL, is some skill. Perks to you Fishyyy.
My Dad flew in a 17 named Ack Ack Annie. He was the flight engineer/top turrent gunner and had to manually lower the landing gear on a mission when the electronics were flak damaged. Very proud of him!
1. You made me reinstall IL2 after getting a new PC and putting it off 2. It really shows how good IL2 is when you can pull this off on the regular whereas in War Thunder you have 2 engines and instantly turn into a B-17 shaped lawn dart
I never quite underestimate Fishyyy's flying skill, but I do know landing broken aircraft aint the easiest thing to do. Especially with environmental factors in place. GJ Fishyyy, Love the content, even the older stuff that you uploaded many many days ago. 👍🏻
Some of those landings (you'll know which ones when you read it) remind me of this poem: From my mother’s sleep I fell into the State, And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze. Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life, I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters. When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose. The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner BY RANDALL JARRELL
The only reason why I don't like this poem is because the ball turret is statistically the safest place to be in a bomber. If anything they'd be washing you out of the pilot compartments with a hose.
Some seriously bad-ass piloting you did there, Fishyy. With pilots like you, It seems like most of the parts are excessive in those birds and one could make a smooth touchdown having nothing left but the cockpit and half a wing. :) Nice job!
Can you imagine being the ball turret Gunner stuck down there when the hydraulics get shot up and you have damaged or no landing gear? What a horrible way to die. 🥺
the amount of damage these planes can really take and still fly back home and land is fucking insane and well deserved of the name "Flying Fortress" yet in War Thunder your whole wing or tail will fall off after taking 6 or so shots from anything above 7.92mm..
Tail turret so B-17E or later; no chin turret, so prior to late B-17F. Generally impressed with the lack of catastrophic damage and fire caused by landing
I felt like there was going to be a Memphis Belle reference in here but there wasn’t, well I don’t think there was, if there was than I guess I didn’t realize it
This game: *B-17 with two engines gone and one on fire with just one running- makes it to base* Warthunder *one engine gets knocked out, immediatly start looking altitube like its a fucking carttoon*
We have had a lot of issues trying to record lately and somehow didn't manage to get anything succesfully filmed :/ There is going to be an, let's say "interesting" Me-262 video soon, I am working on it^^
Granted, it's been a while, but on theory alone I'm fairly certain that's backwards. While P-factor would be the same engine to engine, the greater moment arm of the outboards would require significantly more rudder (and a higher Vmc) to counteract. I certainly wouldn't want to lose any of them, and I definitely wouldn't turn into the dead engines if I'd lost them all on one side (especially the left), but if I had to lose half of them and could choose, I'd pick the outboards and keep the inboards. It'd have the least impact on controllability. If it got down to one operating engine on the B-17, the most ideal to keep would be engine 2 (left wing, inboard) - though again, that'd be a very bad day. EDIT: Off the top of my head, in order of criticality I'd put them: 1, 4, 2, 3.
How'd you make it so the bombers don't explode the second they hit the ground, or that a wing snaps off like paper if one of the gear is missing? Il2 1946 always handled ground crashes very poorly, aircraft don't immediately explode into soup when they touch the ground without gear, they slide and break apart... then explode into soup.
Hi Fishyyy Can you give me some advices on picking the most proper mod pack that for pacific war mission making? Like the containing of ships,maps,aircrafts for the pacific theater, will be even more great with catapult & rearm function . Only for pacific battle purpose, so anything beyond that are not required(dont wanna taken more sys space) Thank you
You're not just gonna get a modpack with no other plane types. I recommend BAT as it is very easy to install has a lot of planes and there are some ship packs out there as well. All of this should be about 54-65Gb
I recommend HSFX 7 it gives you tons of Pacific maps, planes and nice generic skins. I use it myself. You even get USN catapults. Take a look at the installation videos it's not that tricky but takes a while to download.
Sure hope nobody was in the ball turret at 03:07. That's the one thing everyone dreaded when you have to see a B-17 cash land especially wheels up or in that case landing gear collapsed.
Yeah I think I remember hearing a story about the hydraulics on the ball turret malfunctioning due to being damaged and they couldn't bring it back into the fuselage to open it back up and they needed to belly land.
3 versions of B-17 were stock aircraft in Il-2 1946, can't remember if they were flyable but lots of mods let you fly any non-flyable planes, and adding new types/loadouts
@@zxbzxbzxb1 in main version of IL-2 are all those heavy bombers non-flyable. I tried to use mods but I didn't succeed. Can someone help me please which mods/patches can I use?
Are you using controller or Keyboard to play this game. I already connect the controller and it say it already connected when i launch the game its dont show up thr controller button. Pls help me
@@Fishyyy thank you friend I set effects=1 for better smoke and fire. I think I can't get perfect because of video driver issue. It's ok, I bought the game in COG for 2 dollars, what a bargain
I love how in 1946 you can fly a b17 on one engine, meanwhile in Warthinder if you lose two you start dropping like a stone
Different physics engine, but yeah, it should be possible. These planes had the ability to glide quite well even with low power source aka one engine. It still depends on the condition of the airframe though.
I ahve flown b17's with 2 engines a lot of times, yes you drop altitude but it isn't that bad
Technically if you get rid of all the excess weight, ie guns, ammo, oxygen bottles, excess fuel, the odd crewmember😂 you should be able to fly on one engine for quite a while. Plenty of 17s came home on one engine. Not so many successfully landed with only one wheel down though.
@@thebollock9427 'not so many' so was there an invisible wheel there or did God just go "Fuck it" and shift the center of mass in the plane that the entire plane could stand still on one wheel?
@@EstonianShark Nah man, if they were almost home, plenty of opposite rudder and moderate throttle would keep you on the air a fair bit longer. On one engine you're always coming down, but if your increasing your time in the air, might just get you home.
Highlights:
3:00 "A little misaligned, but at least we have both wheels." 3:07 "Well, no longer..."
5:42 Flugabwehrbäume.
8:45 Riveting Rosies vs. Hammering Huns: 1 - 0.
9:40 Eurobeat intensifies.
10:25 Handbrake parking.
15:08 U Can't Touch This.
I feel like a lot of airframes have been lost to one or two specific trees on the runway approaches. Goddamn guys, hire an arborist.
Yeah I think the devs did that to challenge the landings more, though with a broken aircraft, it wont quite help much.
We used to call those "invisi-trees" ... caught out most of us at one point or another... god bless respawns!
Landed a 17 before with only rudder and two outboard engines... those were the days ;)
These are called "Darwin's thresholds", a crucial factor in the philosophy of martial landscaping. :)
The one when he landed the B-17 without the Vertical Stabilizer caught me off guard so bad! The skill to make it FROM your target and get BACK WITHOUT YOUR GOD DAMN TAIL, is some skill. Perks to you Fishyyy.
man, watching that rudderless on missing an elevator and an engine slewing around to almost flatspin had me cringing
Exacltly what I felt!
My Dad flew in a 17 named Ack Ack Annie. He was the flight engineer/top turrent gunner and had to manually lower the landing gear on a mission when the electronics were flak damaged. Very proud of him!
He is a hero just like all veteran, He is still alive?
Did he fly from kimbolton because I live 10 mins away from there and I work down at the 398th bomb group museum and I’m a air cadet
Looks like somebody’s preparing for The Mighty Eighth new game
you saw that too! I played the hell out of Microprose The Mighty Eighth back in the day. CANT WAIT!
1. You made me reinstall IL2 after getting a new PC and putting it off
2. It really shows how good IL2 is when you can pull this off on the regular whereas in War Thunder you have 2 engines and instantly turn into a B-17 shaped lawn dart
I never quite underestimate Fishyyy's flying skill, but I do know landing broken aircraft aint the easiest thing to do. Especially with environmental factors in place.
GJ Fishyyy, Love the content, even the older stuff that you uploaded many many days ago. 👍🏻
I can't stand how he lands too low and fast _every single time..._ Ever heard of a fucking GLIDE SLOPE?
Some of those landings (you'll know which ones when you read it) remind me of this poem:
From my mother’s sleep I fell into the State,
And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life,
I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.
The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner
BY RANDALL JARRELL
The only reason why I don't like this poem is because the ball turret is statistically the safest place to be in a bomber. If anything they'd be washing you out of the pilot compartments with a hose.
Crazy thing about 17's is that they're basically one giant lift generating surface...even when they're half shot up
flying on one engine 0_o
More like slowly falling on one engine :D
Feu toh hawe
5:37 those trees had no reason to loiter there that particular moment....😉
Nice video!
Love this!!! Do this with the b-24 next (use all models) 😋😋
Some seriously bad-ass piloting you did there, Fishyy. With pilots like you, It seems like most of the parts are excessive in those birds and one could make a smooth touchdown having nothing left but the cockpit and half a wing. :) Nice job!
6:50
That is a seriously badass landing!
Superb video! What great skill to land those crippled aircraft! And some with only on 1 engine! Incredible!
Thank god for IL246 FM's...
Those landings were amazing
Holy shit, those are some banged up B-17s.
Great flying skills Fishyy, sehr gut geflogen. Ich muesste mal mit machen. Gruss aus Kiedrich. Bill
Outstanding flying Fishyyy, not a Crabby landing at all, except maybe the last one. Further proof of the B-17s survivability in combat.
I don't anyone would be alive if I tried this
@@imthecrabby Crabby, as always you are far too modest!
@@imthecrabby There was of course the fluke in the Heinkel lol
Can you imagine being the ball turret Gunner stuck down there when the hydraulics get shot up and you have damaged or no landing gear? What a horrible way to die. 🥺
Top one!! Great landing!!!
At least you guys didn't explode on landing not like what happened to that unfortunate B-17 in the Memphis Belle movie
Inspired by “12 O’Clock High.” 👍
Great vid, and heroic flying! :)
3:09 this is a belly gunners worst nightmare because a crash like that crushes the belly turret and kills the person by crushing them
the amount of damage these planes can really take and still fly back home and land is fucking insane and well deserved of the name "Flying Fortress" yet in War Thunder your whole wing or tail will fall off after taking 6 or so shots from anything above 7.92mm..
*Memphis belle enters the game*
On every approach a new set of trees is in the way!
Tail turret so B-17E or later; no chin turret, so prior to late B-17F. Generally impressed with the lack of catastrophic damage and fire caused by landing
B-17F-10-BO
WTF me acaba de llegar la notificación y ya tiene 5 días que lo subió
You would have ditch the ball turret and a belly landing so you don't brake planes back
i wish im 1946 you could have real damage like how one B-17 had lost the whole of the fuselage beyond the pilot's window
Yeah I get what you mean, its just very difficult to model and render that kind of thing on the 1946 engine tho.
I felt like there was going to be a Memphis Belle reference in here but there wasn’t, well I don’t think there was, if there was than I guess I didn’t realize it
Terrain...Terrain...Terrain
Would need a secret weapons of the Luftwaffe strategic campaign mod.
This game: *B-17 with two engines gone and one on fire with just one running- makes it to base*
Warthunder *one engine gets knocked out, immediatly start looking altitube like its a fucking carttoon*
Super! Great job. who's flying?
I did all the flying in this.
It's almost been a month since this video. When will we see the return of this great pilot?
We have had a lot of issues trying to record lately and somehow didn't manage to get anything succesfully filmed :/
There is going to be an, let's say "interesting" Me-262 video soon, I am working on it^^
@@Fishyyy thanks Fishyyy good to hear from you. I just watched your recent fails video which was quite entertaining
In World War 2, this would be a nornal routine for a B17 pilot.
Wait I can’t believe my eyes how did he land a b17 with 2 gears
Never end I graduated from elemental.
General Question: What's the better situation for a 4-engine bird like this, having both outboard engines still going or the two inboard ones?
Granted, it's been a while, but on theory alone I'm fairly certain that's backwards.
While P-factor would be the same engine to engine, the greater moment arm of the outboards would require significantly more rudder (and a higher Vmc) to counteract.
I certainly wouldn't want to lose any of them, and I definitely wouldn't turn into the dead engines if I'd lost them all on one side (especially the left), but if I had to lose half of them and could choose, I'd pick the outboards and keep the inboards. It'd have the least impact on controllability.
If it got down to one operating engine on the B-17, the most ideal to keep would be engine 2 (left wing, inboard) - though again, that'd be a very bad day.
EDIT: Off the top of my head, in order of criticality I'd put them: 1, 4, 2, 3.
5:42
NANI
Great video. What graphics mods are you running?
How'd you make it so the bombers don't explode the second they hit the ground, or that a wing snaps off like paper if one of the gear is missing? Il2 1946 always handled ground crashes very poorly, aircraft don't immediately explode into soup when they touch the ground without gear, they slide and break apart...
then explode into soup.
What raid are these B17's returning home from? Schweinfurt?
#CHEWEDUP
Hi Fishyyy
Can you give me some advices on picking the most proper mod pack that for pacific war mission making?
Like the containing of ships,maps,aircrafts for the pacific theater, will be even more great with catapult & rearm function .
Only for pacific battle purpose, so anything beyond that are not required(dont wanna taken more sys space)
Thank you
You're not just gonna get a modpack with no other plane types. I recommend BAT as it is very easy to install has a lot of planes and there are some ship packs out there as well. All of this should be about 54-65Gb
I recommend HSFX 7 it gives you tons of Pacific maps, planes and nice generic skins. I use it myself. You even get USN catapults. Take a look at the installation videos it's not that tricky but takes a while to download.
5:41 Wow, I thought it was fake trees like in vanila.
mor ejets
Can you set up a scenario where you’re landing a damaged plane?
How many of these birds were written off?
Would love to see a 10 man crew full mission. Be like Memphis Belle but without the crap actors.
personally I thought the actors did fine, the writing was a bit cheesy but hey it was the early 90s.
Should we cut those trees in front of the runway
Nahh...
Can you feather the dead engines?
yeah, but they won't spin or show a different angle of the blades, so no one can tell.
@@Fishyyy copy. Good videos, very entertaining.
Are you using track IR or equivalent with this?
Sure hope nobody was in the ball turret at 03:07. That's the one thing everyone dreaded when you have to see a B-17 cash land especially wheels up or in that case landing gear collapsed.
Yeah I think I remember hearing a story about the hydraulics on the ball turret malfunctioning due to being damaged and they couldn't bring it back into the fuselage to open it back up and they needed to belly land.
@@EstonianShark yes I heard about that story on the History channel. It's a very sad story.
And an engine on fire
How did you put B-17 in the game?
And does the IL-2 work on WIN10 also?
3 versions of B-17 were stock aircraft in Il-2 1946, can't remember if they were flyable but lots of mods let you fly any non-flyable planes, and adding new types/loadouts
@@zxbzxbzxb1 in main version of IL-2 are all those heavy bombers non-flyable. I tried to use mods but I didn't succeed. Can someone help me please which mods/patches can I use?
@@tomasmafina3459 either the VP modpack or B.A.T.
@@s2korpionic thanks
In the description we use Ypack, everything you need should be in there.
Are you using controller or Keyboard to play this game. I already connect the controller and it say it already connected when i launch the game its dont show up thr controller button. Pls help me
He uses a flight stick.
link for il2 1946 ypack mod (sas1946 link pls)
That doesn't exist.
www.patrulla-azul.com/FreeIL2modding/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=3077
Look like Memphis
Dammit. I cant set perfect graphics with my windows 11 install. 😢
you can manually edit conf.ini
www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=9756.0
@@Fishyyy thank you friend
I set effects=1 for better smoke and fire. I think I can't get perfect because of video driver issue. It's ok, I bought the game in COG for 2 dollars, what a bargain
It is fixed now in the latest drivers!
Uhh I literally thought this is War Thunder
Yo , nice vid , would you mind trying a game on mobile called gunship sequel ww2?