Can you help me decide between the 7800 XT and the 4070? I’ll be using it for gaming and game development in UE5. I’m a beginner with 3D games and modeling, and I’m unsure about which one to pick. The 16GB VRAM on the 7800 XT seems great for future-proofing. If I were to use ray tracing at a medium level while making games, would the 7800 XT be able to handle it? I'm just a bit confused about what to buy. I don't mind AMD having slower rendering speed than nvidia
if you truly dont mind slower render speeds, def go for AMD. Or if you want to stick with nvidia, you can just get a 4070, then if your motherboard/case supports it, get another 4070 later on to double VRAM (and core speed). Unfortunately gaming doesnt support multiple GPU's anymore but works great for blender.
@@PsychoBenches How about 7900 GRE will it perform better than 4070/4070 super in blender and stuff i don't care much about Ray Tracing when it comes to gaming
@@kshitijakutal5117 So the RTX 4070 equivalent would be the 7900 XTX (even with hip RT enabled) so this is unfortunately where AMD does lack a little bit in speed. For reference, the RTX 4070S does about 16.6 seconds with optix in blender classroom, and the 7900 GRE does about 20-21, 7900 XTX does the same as the 4070S. So if you did get a 7900 GRE, it would be slightly slower than a 4070. But with more Vram, so its up to you to decide.
hello, friend. My rtx 6800xt beats my rtx 4080 by hair when it's implementation of Radeon open compute module (RocM) utilizing the RT in HIP - hip RT by AMD works while running on archlinux. The arch repository version of blender-git 4.3.r139593.g8ea4d7ed892-1. If it doesn't crash and compute modules are supported. The Radeon 7900xtx is the fastest rendering GPU in blender for classroom benchmark (Sadly the other benchmarks don't work or crash half the time). With all the goodies working on 6.1 Zen kernel of Arch linux with Mesa driver Radeon 7900xtx will beat beat rtx 4090 by one second in classroom render benchmark.
The RX 7900 XTX barely matches an RTX 4070 in Blender. HIP-RT is about 10%-25% faster, according to Puget Systems. Also according to them, the RTX 4080 can render the Junkshop scene in 28.22 seconds, which is "twice as fast as the 7900XTX, even with the new ray tracing improvements"
@@FluffyPuppyKasey like I mentioned above. RocM libs have to work without fallback and utilize functions within fp16 precision. This only works in classroom bench. Nvidia is faster than Radeon by default. I just wanted to share my impression of how much rdna 2 is capable of. When it works. It barely works. Radeon can’t ray trace. Its raytracing parts of the rendering pipeline are indeed as slow as gad104 based graphics card. Nvidia is much better in this.
@@x0vg5hs1 Nvidia - might be able to use Optix, too? If the AMD gpu crashes in any of the others (other than Classroom), it's a pretty useless card, imho. The 7900 xtx is still expensive even if cheaper than a 4080 Super or 4090. Also, the HIP-RT (for Blender) has been in 'experimental' status for at least a year?
Can you help me decide between the 7800 XT and the 4070? I’ll be using it for gaming and game development in UE5. I’m a beginner with 3D games and modeling, and I’m unsure about which one to pick. The 16GB VRAM on the 7800 XT seems great for future-proofing. If I were to use ray tracing at a medium level while making games, would the 7800 XT be able to handle it? I'm just a bit confused about what to buy.
I don't mind AMD having slower rendering speed than nvidia
if you truly dont mind slower render speeds, def go for AMD. Or if you want to stick with nvidia, you can just get a 4070, then if your motherboard/case supports it, get another 4070 later on to double VRAM (and core speed). Unfortunately gaming doesnt support multiple GPU's anymore but works great for blender.
@@PsychoBenches How about 7900 GRE will it perform better than 4070/4070 super in blender and stuff i don't care much about Ray Tracing when it comes to gaming
@@kshitijakutal5117 So the RTX 4070 equivalent would be the 7900 XTX (even with hip RT enabled) so this is unfortunately where AMD does lack a little bit in speed. For reference, the RTX 4070S does about 16.6 seconds with optix in blender classroom, and the 7900 GRE does about 20-21, 7900 XTX does the same as the 4070S. So if you did get a 7900 GRE, it would be slightly slower than a 4070. But with more Vram, so its up to you to decide.
I have RX 6800 would like to try your bulinder example file and see how my GPU preforms, if posable thanks in advance.
nvidia wins in this one, amd wins the size battle
hello, friend. My rtx 6800xt beats my rtx 4080 by hair when it's implementation of Radeon open compute module (RocM) utilizing the RT in HIP - hip RT by AMD works while running on archlinux. The arch repository version of blender-git 4.3.r139593.g8ea4d7ed892-1.
If it doesn't crash and compute modules are supported. The Radeon 7900xtx is the fastest rendering GPU in blender for classroom benchmark (Sadly the other benchmarks don't work or crash half the time).
With all the goodies working on 6.1 Zen kernel of Arch linux with Mesa driver Radeon 7900xtx will beat beat rtx 4090 by one second in classroom render benchmark.
for 7900xtx the Theoretical Performance
Pixel Rate
479.6 GPixel/s
Texture Rate
959.2 GTexel/s
FP16 (half)
122.8 TFLOPS (2:1)
FP32 (float)
61.39 TFLOPS
FP64 (double)
1.918 TFLOPS (1:32)
for rtx 4090 the Theoretical Performance
Pixel Rate
443.5 GPixel/s
Texture Rate
1,290 GTexel/s
FP16 (half)
82.58 TFLOPS (1:1)
FP32 (float)
82.58 TFLOPS
FP64 (double)
1,290 GFLOPS (1:64)
The RX 7900 XTX barely matches an RTX 4070 in Blender. HIP-RT is about 10%-25% faster, according to Puget Systems. Also according to them, the RTX 4080 can render the Junkshop scene in 28.22 seconds, which is "twice as fast as the 7900XTX, even with the new ray tracing improvements"
@@FluffyPuppyKasey like I mentioned above. RocM libs have to work without fallback and utilize functions within fp16 precision.
This only works in classroom bench.
Nvidia is faster than Radeon by default.
I just wanted to share my impression of how much rdna 2 is capable of. When it works.
It barely works.
Radeon can’t ray trace. Its raytracing parts of the rendering pipeline are indeed as slow as gad104 based graphics card.
Nvidia is much better in this.
@@x0vg5hs1 Nvidia - might be able to use Optix, too? If the AMD gpu crashes in any of the others (other than Classroom), it's a pretty useless card, imho. The 7900 xtx is still expensive even if cheaper than a 4080 Super or 4090. Also, the HIP-RT (for Blender) has been in 'experimental' status for at least a year?