Great material. Appreciate your factual, non-sensationalistic presentation. If you can explain why the wheel never gained prominence in meso-America I'd REALLY be interested! :)
That's a great question about the wheel. The best explanation I have read is that the wheel is associated with the domestication of oxen and horses. These beasts of burden did not exist in the Americas before 1492, thus did not develop. Natives did have wheels on toys, so they knew about a circle's benefits, but they had no animals to hitch them to. The Polynesians (ie Easter Island) may have rolled their giant stones on top of rolling wooden rods, which is basically using a wheel, and I wonder if Native Americans used something similar. I honestly have no idea how the Inca shaped those giant stones and moved them. Your guess is as good as mine. Although that is something worth exploring in a future video.
I watch old movies to try to get a feel for my parents when they were young. I love these history stories because it's fun to try to imagine what these ancient folks were like, and how they influenced who we are today. Thanks for doing the hard work of putting these videos together... I know it's not easy.
Thank you. Such an interesting site. I've always thought it was an egg at the mouth, just looking at the pictures I've seen. Makes the most sense to me. I've always wondered about the connection to mesoamerican cultures, too.
Thanks for watching. The egg is the most common explanation. I wonder if the oval is also the sun, knowing that the snake is facing the summer solstice sunset (and if the sun is a metaphorical egg). Fun to think about.
I'm originally from the east of Cincinnati. I've never been there but my kids have on fieldtrips and to Ft. Ancient. I love history about where I used to live.
It's been excavated at different times over the years and it was not a burial mount. There are two smaller mounds on the same property that are burial mounds, but the Serpent was not.
This past summer I read a book about Cahokia. Absolutely fascinating stuff. There is still so much we don't know about American history, so much still to be discovered.
Good to see you Jeffrey. I hope you’re keeping track of the citizens who are sharing how to see the art of the ancient Americans. The people that lived with Mammoths and wore bird headdresses… we have photographs of them painted on crystals. It’s getting a lot of attention, please advise.
Great video, a suggestion that I’ve been waiting for is a video about Chesapeake Bay Area or middle Atlantic native civilizations! Specifically the Lenape tribe and the other inhabitants of the area.
Growing up mormon I read about how Joseph Smith encountered many of these while living in New York and Ohio and was convinced they were evidence of the Jewish-Native American Nephite civilizations he wrote about
Hi! Love your videos, I just wanted to ask if you could provide a list of sources that you use in your description, or even better, note when you’re using one specifically during a video if you’re able. I find this topic fascinating and would love to get to learn more! Thank you
Great point. I often put a short bibliography at the very end of the video during the credits. I wish this subject had easier to access information. So much is either in technical reports or peer review. There are very few "History of the Hopewell" kind of books that are easily made for a general audience. The radiocarbon citation is from Herrman, Monaghan, et al., "A New Multistage Construction Chronology for the Great Serpent Mound, USA," Journal of Archaeological Science. The Smithsonian's "Contributions to Knowledge" (Volume 1), 1848, is available online through the Library of Congress' Digital Collections. Probably the best history of pre-Columbian societies for a general audience is Charles Mann's "1491." A more technical book is "The Moundbuilders" by George Milner.
Very interesting. I'd have to say that all three of the bends of the snake pointing to an equinox or the winter solstice can't be a coincidence. Ancient Native Americans are just as clever as we are today.
Its located within a meteor crater that is approximately 5 miles wide, and is approximately 300 millennia old. Locals say that in the area of the oval compasses don't function properly, suggesting that there are still magnetic fragments of the meteor below the impact zone. Additionally, there was an obelisk inside the oval that was pushed over the cliff adjacent to the mound by early European settlers.The obelisk is still visible above ground and is accessible via a hiking trail below the cliff. My question is, were they drawn there by there own compass methods (we all lnow a simple compass is relatively easy to put together)? And how prevalent was the crater impact by visual survey whereas today it is has succumbed to major erosion? Sorry to ne long winded, but these subjects fascinate me.
The Shawnee aren't from Ohio, they fled there after the Iroquois drove them out of New England. Edit: Same with the Miami. The original civilizations of Ohio were long gone by the time the Shawnee arrived, anyone in the area was either killed by the Iroquois or integrated into the Shawnee. This is why the true meaning of "Ohio" isn't known.
No doubt after colonization the tribes and nations were thrown westward. However, Shawnee is the best we know about in the region after historical documentation.
The Shawnee are from the N Florida S Georgia, only in Ohio for about 300 years. Swanee River, Shenandoah and others are derivative names that come from when the Shawnee lived there for eons...The Miami (Maumee) begged the Shawnee to come to Ohio, giving them land because of their fierce fighting ......protection
The middle coils could also be a tool to Track all the visible retrograde cycles. Mercury gets all the glory I suppose but any planet from the POV of Earth retrogrades & when drawn on paper the planets entire retrograde/station/direct cycle will look much like the middle coils.
Comparing those who built the mound builders with the people of South and Central America is comparing people who obeyed the law of Moses with Buddhists. Guatemala translates to "Land of Buddha." The people of South and Central America came many years after the mound builders. The last 2 verses in exodus 20 read "thou shalt not have stairs to thy altars that thy nakedness may not be seen" they wore skirts and no under pants, and thou shalt not make thy altars of hune stone for the chisel poluteth the altar.
Although a lot of the archaeologists and historians don't want to acknowledge Biblical history , there are libraries around the world full of information already recorded much history of these sites in some the grandest Masonic lodges the Vatican Library and Christian colleges. Looking at the megalithic architecture on the Eastern Sea Coast a tablet was discovered that said Joshua the robber had drove them out of their land we are speaking about very tall individuals from the Ba-albek Lebanon and from Israel. They travel down the Hudson Bay St Lawrence Strait Great Lakes. Abraham Lincoln also recorded this in some of his writings about the giant race that lived north of Niagara Falls , and built some of these Mounds. That tall race of giants also worship the serpent . America is originally known as the land of the plumed serpent . The Old Testament and some in the New Testament speak of these places especially in the Book of Enoch. Excavating underneath Mexico City we see the original constructions the highly resembled Mesopotamian Ziggurats , and they also worship the snake dragon plumed serpent. The Bible is full of all this information already. And don't forget some of King Solomon's copper mines were in Lake Erie region. Another note is the Cherokee Indians had in their possession many many Jewish symbolic pieces that are still being excavated in their camps.
The meteor strike predated humans. It caused magnetic phenomena you can experience today. It can make you weak in the knees. Cars may not start. Clouds part to rain all around the area. Ancient people must have thought it was pretty cool also. I worked for the phone company there. local utility companies are well aware of the phenomenon.
Pliny the Elder describes the quest for the serpent's egg in these terms: "There is a kind of egg, forgotten by the Greeks, but of great renown in Gaul: in summer, innumerable serpents gather together, entwined and stuck to each other by the slime and foam of their bodies; this is called a serpent's egg and it must be received in a sluice before it touches the ground. I have seen this egg: it is the size of a medium round apple and the shell is cartilaginous, with numerous cups, like those on the arms of octopuses. the druids. Its marvelous effect is praised for winning lawsuits and gaining access to kings; but this is false: a Roman knight from the country of the Voconces who, during a lawsuit, carried one in his bosom, was put to death by the divine Claudius, emperor, for no other reason, to my knowledge. Yet these embraces of serpents and their fertile agreement seem to be the reason why foreign nations surrounded the caduceus as a sign of peace with the image of snakes, but it is not customary in the caduceus that they are created. The druids were looking for the egg of the sea serpent, it was a spiritual quest because finding this egg was the owner of the knowledge of the world, its essence and its structure. The egg is both the source and fruit of life. To be viable, it must come out of the womb of the female and then be fertilized by the male. Female and male appear as a matrix and vital force. The male serpent symbolizes the fertilizing impulse by its phallic shape and by its springing from the earth. Water is the primordial element in which life is present everywhere. The serpent egg is one of the strongest druidic symbols.
I believe it represents the sperm meeting the egg. The coiled tail represents the coiled kundalini energy at the base of the spine. The meeting of the masculine and feminine energies.
It may have a double meaning alike superimposed layers of Mythology and the other one is the Serpent eating the Sun. Avebury used to be a serpent across a circle just like Egyptians symbols representing a daylight comet at perihelion. Are you really a librarian? They reject my book, I prodded my main county library and they said it wasn't popular and it would help if I wrote a peer review paper to prove the contents. Yesterday I watched a video in TN and the rock art showed the sad Sun as the Egyptians talk about and the double axe warrior next to a curvy lined woman, which from my research represents the Superbolide destroying Mother Earth. There is a story about the White Canoe that sails over the mountains and the little maiden dies.
The book of Mormon dates are pretty accurate on who they were.. from the Jaridites to laminates and the nephites.. Along with the description of what they built.. especially the use of metal works.. history isn't what they taught that's for sure..
When the Adena would meet the Mississippians as a greeting they would say “Ohio”. Their successors were very solicitous and would often say “we hope you’re well”.
To me this looks nothing like an egg and a snake. There was a meteor strike there anyway. Why make some weird story up? It's right in front of you. It actually looks like a commemoration of a meteor strike. Having been under a meteor strike in montana within 2 miles you can hear it hiss straight down from the sky like frying bacon. The tail is much like a spermatazoidial swim. Like a snake crawling down from the sky. That meteor struck just off mountain 1 in the bears paw mountain range about 1991 or 92 It was never found as it struck volcanic rock and left no trace, burying itself into that area. The ground shook and white light lasted about 4 seconds.
No they were not too busy hunting. Hunting back then was 100 times more plentiful with thousands more species that have either died off from diseases or killed off by humans. The atlatl was the main hunting weapon for big game. Then came the more efficient bow and arrow that killed off massive species throughout the entire planet. Then of course the white hilljacks with their guns to finish them off.
TAMLA TANETTE MOORE IS THE MOST HIGH AND UNSTOPPABLE TOO.. HOMOSEXUALITY IS ABOMINATION..ASE HEKA AMEN RA AHO MOORE NATION GRAND RISING KARMA 🤟🏿🤟🏿🤑.. LAND BACK 🎉🎉🎉
Unfortunately it starts out badly this is not got anything to do with Indians do you wonder why that it's not carbon dated I measured it and I found were it came from it was built by land owners long ago when they were needing water 💦 fresh water possibly Indians could have built it but not as far back as expected and I know what it is and not older than 500 yrs only only pre Americans have the ability to be informed of the 😂😂did you here what he said 🥚 ya that's funny because real mason's are from the descendents of the original builders
Um, check out the creek and Choctaw art work. Almost identical to Aztecs. Sprawling complexes in North Georgia. We're they mined clay for Aztec blue paint.
Great material. Appreciate your factual, non-sensationalistic presentation. If you can explain why the wheel never gained prominence in meso-America I'd REALLY be interested! :)
That's a great question about the wheel. The best explanation I have read is that the wheel is associated with the domestication of oxen and horses. These beasts of burden did not exist in the Americas before 1492, thus did not develop. Natives did have wheels on toys, so they knew about a circle's benefits, but they had no animals to hitch them to. The Polynesians (ie Easter Island) may have rolled their giant stones on top of rolling wooden rods, which is basically using a wheel, and I wonder if Native Americans used something similar. I honestly have no idea how the Inca shaped those giant stones and moved them. Your guess is as good as mine. Although that is something worth exploring in a future video.
Check out the video ‘why precolonial Africa didn’t have the wheel’ I think it pertains to your question
I watch old movies to try to get a feel for my parents when they were young. I love these history stories because it's fun to try to imagine what these ancient folks were like, and how they influenced who we are today. Thanks for doing the hard work of putting these videos together... I know it's not easy.
Thanks for watching. These videos are a labor of love.
How can I donate to the cause to reward you for your efforts?@@JeffreytheLibrarian
As always, thank you for breaking down this complex early history in parts I can understand
The visuals are really helpful
Thanks for watching!
y friend, I've been zooming in and out of several of these videos since yesterday morning. My thanks and appreciation for your work.
Thank you!
Thank you. Such an interesting site. I've always thought it was an egg at the mouth, just looking at the pictures I've seen. Makes the most sense to me. I've always wondered about the connection to mesoamerican cultures, too.
Thanks for watching. The egg is the most common explanation. I wonder if the oval is also the sun, knowing that the snake is facing the summer solstice sunset (and if the sun is a metaphorical egg). Fun to think about.
@@JeffreytheLibrarian Another great possibility. Thank you again for the content; it's top notch.
Thanks for the education. Excellent video.
Much appreciated!
I'm originally from the east of Cincinnati. I've never been there but my kids have on fieldtrips and to Ft. Ancient. I love history about where I used to live.
There's not really any recorded history about the sites most everything is just a guess. The real history is lost to time.
Any archeological evidence from the site? Excavation of any kind?
Exactly. I'd be willing to wager it's a burial site with much to offer archeologically
There are old pictures of an excavation on the LOC and NARA websites.
@@scottanno8861 This is exactly what was found.
It's been excavated at different times over the years and it was not a burial mount. There are two smaller mounds on the same property that are burial mounds, but the Serpent was not.
This past summer I read a book about Cahokia. Absolutely fascinating stuff. There is still so much we don't know about American history, so much still to be discovered.
Interesting
Thanks for the video! I grew up in Peebles and visited the site many times as a kid. Still learned a lot from your research!
Thank you for watching!
Excellent video
Thanks for watching!
Good to see you Jeffrey. I hope you’re keeping track of the citizens who are sharing how to see the art of the ancient Americans. The people that lived with Mammoths and wore bird headdresses… we have photographs of them painted on crystals. It’s getting a lot of attention, please advise.
We have a burial mounds (undisturbed)on our farm in muskingum county Ohio.
Great job.
Thank you!
I have been there many times. Very cool. Just learning about the crater.
Great video, a suggestion that I’ve been waiting for is a video about Chesapeake Bay Area or middle Atlantic native civilizations! Specifically the Lenape tribe and the other inhabitants of the area.
Great stuff, JtL! Maybe do a video on Cahokia? 🙏🏼
Yes, Cahokia will be done in the future.
Growing up mormon I read about how Joseph Smith encountered many of these while living in New York and Ohio and was convinced they were evidence of the Jewish-Native American Nephite civilizations he wrote about
Hi! Love your videos, I just wanted to ask if you could provide a list of sources that you use in your description, or even better, note when you’re using one specifically during a video if you’re able. I find this topic fascinating and would love to get to learn more! Thank you
Great point. I often put a short bibliography at the very end of the video during the credits. I wish this subject had easier to access information. So much is either in technical reports or peer review. There are very few "History of the Hopewell" kind of books that are easily made for a general audience.
The radiocarbon citation is from Herrman, Monaghan, et al., "A New Multistage Construction Chronology for the Great Serpent Mound, USA," Journal of Archaeological Science. The Smithsonian's "Contributions to Knowledge" (Volume 1), 1848, is available online through the Library of Congress' Digital Collections.
Probably the best history of pre-Columbian societies for a general audience is Charles Mann's "1491." A more technical book is "The Moundbuilders" by George Milner.
This is fantastic! Thank you for the response :)
Very interesting. I'd have to say that all three of the bends of the snake pointing to an equinox or the winter solstice can't be a coincidence. Ancient Native Americans are just as clever as we are today.
Yes, it definitely provides a clue to what the site was used for.
Its located within a meteor crater that is approximately 5 miles wide, and is approximately 300 millennia old. Locals say that in the area of the oval compasses don't function properly, suggesting that there are still magnetic fragments of the meteor below the impact zone. Additionally, there was an obelisk inside the oval that was pushed over the cliff adjacent to the mound by early European settlers.The obelisk is still visible above ground and is accessible via a hiking trail below the cliff.
My question is, were they drawn there by there own compass methods (we all lnow a simple compass is relatively easy to put together)? And how prevalent was the crater impact by visual survey whereas today it is has succumbed to major erosion?
Sorry to ne long winded, but these subjects fascinate me.
Great videos, thanks
Much appreciated!
Why wasn't the standing stone that use to be part of the serpent mound mentioned?
Awesome video ❤
Thank you!
Growing crops on what is basically an enormous undulating swale beneath a creek bed would make a lot of sense
Thank you sooo much!
I appreciate it!
Very interesting. I always thought ancient space aliens or giants were involved in the various earthworks across the Midwest.
The aliens were too busy shaping the Inca masonry at the time :)
The Shawnee aren't from Ohio, they fled there after the Iroquois drove them out of New England.
Edit: Same with the Miami. The original civilizations of Ohio were long gone by the time the Shawnee arrived, anyone in the area was either killed by the Iroquois or integrated into the Shawnee. This is why the true meaning of "Ohio" isn't known.
No doubt after colonization the tribes and nations were thrown westward. However, Shawnee is the best we know about in the region after historical documentation.
Originally they came up from the south.
The Iroquois drove them out because they allied with Europeans who used the Iroquois to commit atrocities. ❤
The Shawnee are from the N Florida S Georgia, only in Ohio for about 300 years. Swanee River, Shenandoah and others are derivative names that come from when the Shawnee lived there for eons...The Miami (Maumee) begged the Shawnee to come to Ohio, giving them land because of their fierce fighting ......protection
The middle coils could also be a tool to Track all the visible retrograde cycles. Mercury gets all the glory I suppose but any planet from the POV of Earth retrogrades & when drawn on paper the planets entire retrograde/station/direct cycle will look much like the middle coils.
Thank you! I think we are all appreciating more now how much astronomy these societies had.
Comparing those who built the mound builders with the people of South and Central America is comparing people who obeyed the law of Moses with Buddhists.
Guatemala translates to "Land of Buddha."
The people of South and Central America came many years after the mound builders.
The last 2 verses in exodus 20 read "thou shalt not have stairs to thy altars that thy nakedness may not be seen" they wore skirts and no under pants, and thou shalt not make thy altars of hune stone for the chisel poluteth the altar.
Although a lot of the archaeologists and historians don't want to acknowledge Biblical history , there are libraries around the world full of information already recorded much history of these sites in some the grandest Masonic lodges the Vatican Library and Christian colleges. Looking at the megalithic architecture on the Eastern Sea Coast a tablet was discovered that said Joshua the robber had drove them out of their land we are speaking about very tall individuals from the Ba-albek Lebanon and from Israel. They travel down the Hudson Bay St Lawrence Strait Great Lakes. Abraham Lincoln also recorded this in some of his writings about the giant race that lived north of Niagara Falls , and built some of these Mounds. That tall race of giants also worship the serpent . America is originally known as the land of the plumed serpent .
The Old Testament and some in the New Testament speak of these places especially in the Book of Enoch. Excavating underneath Mexico City we see the original constructions the highly resembled Mesopotamian Ziggurats , and they also worship the snake dragon plumed serpent. The Bible is full of all this information already. And don't forget some of King Solomon's copper mines were in Lake Erie region. Another note is the Cherokee Indians had in their possession many many Jewish symbolic pieces that are still being excavated in their camps.
The frog shape in front of "egg" is gone.
The meteor strike predated humans.
It caused magnetic phenomena you can experience today.
It can make you weak in the knees. Cars may not start. Clouds part to rain all around the area.
Ancient people must have thought it was pretty cool also.
I worked for the phone company there. local utility companies are well aware of the phenomenon.
Pliny the Elder describes the quest for the serpent's egg in these terms: "There is a kind of egg, forgotten by the Greeks, but of great renown in Gaul: in summer, innumerable serpents gather together, entwined and stuck to each other by the slime and foam of their bodies; this is called a serpent's egg and it must be received in a sluice before it touches the ground. I have seen this egg: it is the size of a medium round apple and the shell is cartilaginous, with numerous cups, like those on the arms of octopuses. the druids. Its marvelous effect is praised for winning lawsuits and gaining access to kings; but this is false: a Roman knight from the country of the Voconces who, during a lawsuit, carried one in his bosom, was put to death by the divine Claudius, emperor, for no other reason, to my knowledge. Yet these embraces of serpents and their fertile agreement seem to be the reason why foreign nations surrounded the caduceus as a sign of peace with the image of snakes, but it is not customary in the caduceus that they are created.
The druids were looking for the egg of the sea serpent, it was a spiritual quest because finding this egg was the owner of the knowledge of the world, its essence and its structure. The egg is both the source and fruit of life. To be viable, it must come out of the womb of the female and then be fertilized by the male. Female and male appear as a matrix and vital force. The male serpent symbolizes the fertilizing impulse by its phallic shape and by its springing from the earth. Water is the primordial element in which life is present everywhere. The serpent egg is one of the strongest druidic symbols.
Adams County born and bred🙋♂️. Dna wise im the product of native American and viking.
The serpent is said to be a representation of lightning.
Great chosun culture .kings tomb
could it represent a meteorite coming to impact
I have heard that interpretation. It could be a comet or something astronomical.
I believe it represents the sperm meeting the egg. The coiled tail represents the coiled kundalini energy at the base of the spine. The meeting of the masculine and feminine energies.
I agree. Wild parties during the equinox
It may have a double meaning alike superimposed layers of Mythology and the other one is the Serpent eating the Sun. Avebury used to be a serpent across a circle just like Egyptians symbols representing a daylight comet at perihelion. Are you really a librarian? They reject my book, I prodded my main county library and they said it wasn't popular and it would help if I wrote a peer review paper to prove the contents. Yesterday I watched a video in TN and the rock art showed the sad Sun as the Egyptians talk about and the double axe warrior next to a curvy lined woman, which from my research represents the Superbolide destroying Mother Earth. There is a story about the White Canoe that sails over the mountains and the little maiden dies.
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Thank you!
This looks like a barrow to me, has there been an excavation to look for human remains?
The smaller mound he mentions appears to have been a burial mound. Effigy mounds generally were not used for burial.
The book of Mormon dates are pretty accurate on who they were.. from the Jaridites to laminates and the nephites..
Along with the description of what they built.. especially the use of metal works.. history isn't what they taught that's for sure..
When the Adena would meet the Mississippians as a greeting they would say “Ohio”. Their successors were very solicitous and would often say “we hope you’re well”.
100% a planting/ social calendar
I think you might be correct.
@@JeffreytheLibrarian loved the video keep it up
the "egg" is the head
I've wondered that myself, too. I like the idea that the "egg" is the sun, because it's facing the solstice.
Flood control?
Now you're thinking outside of the box. I like that. It is right next to a river.
2300 years? its dated at 1070 ad
I cite a peer-reviewed paper in the video that puts early usage phases at 2300 years. It was modified thereafter with later construction phases.
Your Ohio geography is remiss
My Ohio geography is fantastic. I have successfully gotten from Pittsburgh to Cleveland.
To me this looks nothing like an egg and a snake. There was a meteor strike there anyway. Why make some weird story up? It's right in front of you.
It actually looks like a commemoration of a meteor strike.
Having been under a meteor strike in montana within 2 miles you can hear it hiss straight down from the sky like frying bacon. The tail is much like a spermatazoidial swim. Like a snake crawling down from the sky.
That meteor struck just off mountain 1 in the bears paw mountain range about 1991 or 92 It was never found as it struck volcanic rock and left no trace, burying itself into that area. The ground shook and white light lasted about 4 seconds.
Why would primitive people build it? Weren't they too busy hunting? 😂
No they were not too busy hunting. Hunting back then was 100 times more plentiful with thousands more species that have either died off from diseases or killed off by humans. The atlatl was the main hunting weapon for big game. Then came the more efficient bow and arrow that killed off massive species throughout the entire planet. Then of course the white hilljacks with their guns to finish them off.
TAMLA TANETTE MOORE IS THE MOST HIGH AND UNSTOPPABLE TOO.. HOMOSEXUALITY IS ABOMINATION..ASE HEKA AMEN RA AHO MOORE NATION GRAND RISING KARMA 🤟🏿🤟🏿🤑.. LAND BACK 🎉🎉🎉
Unfortunately it starts out badly this is not got anything to do with Indians do you wonder why that it's not carbon dated I measured it and I found were it came from it was built by land owners long ago when they were needing water 💦 fresh water possibly Indians could have built it but not as far back as expected and I know what it is and not older than 500 yrs only only pre Americans have the ability to be informed of the 😂😂did you here what he said 🥚 ya that's funny because real mason's are from the descendents of the original builders
It's apparent those guys were bored. Not an archeological site worth mentioning.
It think it's a pretty cool site.
@@JeffreytheLibrarianhaters gonna hate it’s the coolest thing in Ohio 😊
Um, check out the creek and Choctaw art work. Almost identical to Aztecs. Sprawling complexes in North Georgia. We're they mined clay for Aztec blue paint.