Should the Superglide Keyboard be Banned?

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  • Опубликовано: 23 май 2023
  • Should the Superglide Keyboard be Banned?
    Ottr explains the Wooting 60HE and how it works, and debates whether it should be a bannable thing to use, or whether its simply the future of keyboards.
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  • @ottr
    @ottr  Год назад +2

    If this video ended up convincing you to check out the Wooting - make sure to use my affiliate link if you're ordering any of their keyboards next.wooting.io/our-products?partner_id=ottr

  • @Arthfayle
    @Arthfayle Год назад +258

    Bro, the amount of people comparing this to things like chronus and strikepacks are insane to me. One removes your recoil entirely and one makes your inputs .002 seconds faster.

    • @Disable_EZ
      @Disable_EZ Год назад +6

      yeah i agree

    • @sspiegel1
      @sspiegel1 Год назад +23

      Just shows the amount of people cheating with chronus and strikepacks.

    • @brockvanzwol2172
      @brockvanzwol2172 Год назад +1

      Does a zen make ur inputs faster ?

    • @wavierdig
      @wavierdig Год назад +15

      Its like calling an elite series controller cheating
      It just feels better
      Probably
      Im not sure but you get my point

    • @big_z1174
      @big_z1174 Год назад +2

      I swear to god soon they will start to complain about people with good PCs, they only have 30fps so if someone has 60 it is an advantage right??? Or what about screen mhz? This keyboard isn't any different...

  • @vigo0o0
    @vigo0o0 Год назад +133

    in my opinion there is no problem with that keyboard because i think that the big gaming companies will build keyboards with these features in the future too
    and the technology will evolve anyway to some point where this is the standart for every keyboard.

    • @user-rl6wr2ny7f
      @user-rl6wr2ny7f Год назад +7

      Yup and the price for this feature will slowly drop making it more accessible.

    • @bladeoftheruinedking5504
      @bladeoftheruinedking5504 Год назад

      Yeah something like this is progression on technology and something that shouldn't be held back because soon most keyboards will have this

    • @balazsdusek
      @balazsdusek Год назад

      @@user-rl6wr2ny7frazer is already copying this with their "huntsman kini analog" amd it is not as good but also cheaper which is a good direction for tech like this to go

    • @rxre6969
      @rxre6969 Год назад

      ​@@cjayscribNot really comparable. The keyboard changes the actuation while a strike pack just gives better aim straight up.

  • @nicholasyork2396
    @nicholasyork2396 Год назад +96

    I have one and the keyboard is amazing. I feel like they are just raising the standards for keyboards. As a smaller company that is taking over the scene they are super cool.

    • @Audysseus
      @Audysseus Год назад +1

      ​@@Divinity_vA Also analog switches are far from new...

    • @Positivity1
      @Positivity1 Год назад

      Bro needs a keyboard to get good😂😂

    • @ninja2MC
      @ninja2MC Год назад

      how much does it cost

    • @FearWarboar4135
      @FearWarboar4135 Год назад +1

      @@ninja2MC $180 if I remember correctly. I have one it is amazing

    • @voidiac5832
      @voidiac5832 Год назад

      im working on getting myself one and im so excited

  • @Wooting
    @Wooting Год назад +75

    Guess I have nothing more to comment on this then? :D
    Thanks for covering the keyboard, and we really think the additional set of features analog keyboards bring to the market will be the new standard.
    SoonTM

    • @christopherpitts3941
      @christopherpitts3941 Год назад

      any tkl keyboards coming from wooting soon?

    • @vigo0o0
      @vigo0o0 Год назад

      I thought I’d get the 60he for my 16th birthday today but I just didn’t :(

    • @pewpewbang9009
      @pewpewbang9009 Год назад

      Will you guys have Swiss French format?

    • @jjkillerx
      @jjkillerx Год назад

      65% version please and thank you

  • @qwertyg3666
    @qwertyg3666 Год назад +25

    The wooting eliminates almost every variable except raw input skill. It makes excellent gamers better whilst providing no benefit to most people because they lack the skill to utilise that level of precision. A strike pack on the other hand actively removes a skill from being needed. How anyone can argue they are equitable I really don't understand.

    • @Nateawa
      @Nateawa Год назад +8

      controller players don't know the difference between skill and seeing the winning screen

    • @TheRealMonstaa
      @TheRealMonstaa Год назад +1

      A great take on things, honestly!

  • @Agattine
    @Agattine Год назад +28

    I think a better comparison would be a SCUF/Battle Beaver for controller players.

    • @blxckleppxrd
      @blxckleppxrd Год назад

      nahh, scuff just moves buttons so you can do things without having to stop moving and or looking, basically makes the playing field closer to a standard keyboard

    • @Agattine
      @Agattine Год назад +6

      @@blxckleppxrd the triggers are adjustable to shoot faster than standard controllers. SCUF themselves calls it “mouse click response”.

    • @blxckleppxrd
      @blxckleppxrd Год назад

      @@Agattine so again.... leveling the playing field... imagine if your keyboard and mouse had the ROM of a trigger on a controller.... so yea... mouseclick

    • @millenwagon
      @millenwagon Год назад

      @@Agattine The Dualsense edge and the Xbox elite controller also have hair triggers, they aren’t game changers. I have them both as well as the original pads, it’s the paddles that are the advantage, the triggers aren’t. And the paddles/rear buttons take some time to master and are more about adding comfort and convenience so you don’t have to play claw

  • @EYNAHL
    @EYNAHL Год назад +26

    I bought the Wooting HE2 about 2 months ago and while I went from a 20% super glide accuracy to around 80%, wouldn't you know it move movement doesn't win all your fights. Comparing it to a strike pack is a large stretch IMO.

    • @momentykk
      @momentykk Год назад

      i use normal gaming keyboard and i hit 80% of my superglides imo i dont think it changes much

  • @ChizAndStuff
    @ChizAndStuff Год назад +7

    I have a Wooting and wouldn’t consider it cheating in the slightest. I’d say the Wooting is the MnK version of an Elite Series 2 or duel sense edge controller. All of them have their own software where you can fine tune nearly everything about it and change how the game feels.
    In a game that’s majority controller nowadays I feel like it’s fair play to those who are sticking with MnK to use this keyboard

  • @BigBrainAFK
    @BigBrainAFK Год назад +2

    just a slight correction: The feature is called Rapid Trigger. no fire present. Oh also side-side note: DKS isnt macros. It activates a different key depending on the depth of your key press and depending on if the key moves up or down.

  • @XDGoose41
    @XDGoose41 Год назад +4

    if you want a really in depth look at this keyboard, another creator know as optimum tech has a really well done video on the wooting, and also explains its advantages in apex as well. well worth the watch to learn more about the keyboard.

  • @tonitom_re
    @tonitom_re Год назад +2

    If indeed the anticheat of Anybrain should be introduced, I am curious how it deals with such software customized inputs.

  • @facelessgreen8997
    @facelessgreen8997 Год назад +4

    So let me get this straight. Wooting 60HE is just a mech keyboard that allows you to set the activation depth? That's as much of an advantage as having a standard mechanical keyboard against someone who uses membrane (which is barely at all). Comparing that to CroneUs or that Shite Pack users is insane.

  • @rBlackyy
    @rBlackyy Год назад +6

    I got the Wooting 60HE and its the best Keyboard i tried in over 15 years of playing MnK!

    • @Javggoat
      @Javggoat 6 месяцев назад

      Wat mouse u use

  • @Icesweats
    @Icesweats Год назад +5

    no because you can have the same controls on a optical keyboard with hot swap switches. all you need to do is trim the actuation stem for your crouch key and boom you did the same thing software does just takes some trial and error in getting the right lengths. all on a board under $100

  • @goaway6226
    @goaway6226 Год назад +2

    I would look at it the same was as controller configure their deadzone and other settings. When does the input happend and when does it end. Optimized to your playstyle and liking. I dont think you can go wrong with 1-1 input rule

  • @ethenjordan2010
    @ethenjordan2010 Год назад +2

    If they had a 65 or TKL I’d buy it. But it’s missing the F keys which I use and I hate not having arrows ( yes I know you can do the second function key, big no)

  • @napsy27
    @napsy27 Год назад +3

    I'm not the best movement player, not by a longshot (i fail wallbounces here and there and i suck with ziplines), but its crazy how consistent i got at supergliding with the wooting (i got the wooting two he, the full sized one). According to the web superglide trainer, I used to have about 14% chance of supergliding but now I have a 84% chance (if locked on 120fps). In the real game though, I play on uncapped fps and I still hit most of my superglides. And not only that, my tap strafes are much more precise, and I sometimes accidentally do something close to a neo strafe? but not really since i lose momentum even with stim. but i could strafe in a square somewhat. Every movement just feels clean and responsive and its just amazing. By far one of the best upgrades to my peripherals other than my monitor

  • @dustinbrezina3965
    @dustinbrezina3965 Год назад

    Where do you buy it

  • @swifted
    @swifted Год назад

    Where’s the updated vid for the setup?

  • @unboundjackal
    @unboundjackal Год назад +3

    I have around a 60-70% success right now using my keyboard with space and C at about 240FPS

  • @MintSpaghetti
    @MintSpaghetti Год назад +1

    This seems like one of the things that is controversial when it first shows up but becomes stacked down the line and I think we just need to wait it out

  • @arctictropic1147
    @arctictropic1147 Год назад +2

    I would say this is more in relation to an overclocked controller than a strike pack, lowering the latency of your movement. It’s not cheating, just p2w.
    Either way, gaming companies should start following the analog switches trend instead of people trying to label it as cheating so everyone sticks to the slower generic gaming keyboards.

  • @JocelynTaylor-sl5pk
    @JocelynTaylor-sl5pk Год назад

    Love your videos dude keep it up

  • @nzkuro
    @nzkuro Год назад +2

    how can anybody even say that the wooting is cheating, while rollers on pc exist....

  • @JDMKEV
    @JDMKEV Год назад +1

    i always wondered how people looted so fast like timmy when off drop since im a console player but now i know! good vid ottr, also agree with your take...not cheating defs a bit pay to win but there will always be other people with better stuff than you especially on the PC side of things

  • @hu_fyk
    @hu_fyk Год назад

    Hey I didn't see anyone mention this but normal mechanical keyboard doesn't register key when bottom out but there will be an actuation point or travel distance where the keystroke regis.
    About rapid trigger you can (theoretically) achieve almost same speed with normal keyboard if you practice to press and release.
    Example: if your switch bottom out at 4 mm, actuation point is at 2.5mm travel distance and reset point is 2.4 you don't need to bottom it out you just try need to press to 2.5mm and release to 2.4 and press again( but Rapid trigger just easier)
    All of these are from osu! Player who enjoy apex legends view.
    Rapid trigger just make spamming easier but doesn't make your finger control any better.

    • @hu_fyk
      @hu_fyk Год назад

      In the end keyboard are just making you hit thing easier(in both osu! And apex community) but it doesn't make you better . if you suck and buy this keyboard. You are still being suck just with analog keyboard.

  • @XWeedhunterX
    @XWeedhunterX Год назад

    I remember switching from logitech g510 membrane keyboard to SteelSeries Apex 7 RED mechanical and even writing an essay on word was like night and day. Not to mention inputs while gaming.

  • @Bneb
    @Bneb Год назад

    Steel series apex pro has the ability to change the actuation because it’s magnetic hybrid keys so you could replicate this to do superglides

  • @Madcaper
    @Madcaper Год назад

    Just got mine in the mail today can’t wait to try it out on some apex

  • @chlebaQQ
    @chlebaQQ Год назад +2

    Razer huntsman v2 has analog swtiches also

  • @littlebit670
    @littlebit670 Год назад +3

    Yeah I wouldn't consider a faster keyboard to be cheating because you are still making inputs. It's just a faster keyboard, not a robot helping you with the game (like the Zen/StrikePack or macros)

  • @OliWo1i
    @OliWo1i Год назад

    this is the first helpful video on the wooting ive seen everything else says the same thing this actually confirmed i want it

  • @vigo0o0
    @vigo0o0 Год назад +1

    im hopefully geting this at my birthday in 3 days xD

  • @el_floppo9159
    @el_floppo9159 Год назад +2

    Cheating would be something altering the intended function of the game; like perceived recoil being lowered by a strike pack or similar. Super glides can be hit on any input device, some being easier than others. My pov is that an analog keyboard is a different input device, and more comparable to a controller, than a keyboard with how analog inputs are registered. This keyboard doesnt give you aim assist though, 0/10 (ive been wanting to pick one up for a while now, cant wait until i get paid B] )

  • @BeardedMotawa
    @BeardedMotawa Год назад

    i have steelseries apex pro , does the same thing btw. difference is actuation point in Steelseries is 0.2 and wooting is 0.1. i think its negligible and you can customize both the same.

  • @Mysterious_RSA
    @Mysterious_RSA Год назад

    How i understand it, is the tachyon mode is just a fast response time, but corsair offers keyboards with 8000hz polling. Aka: 0.125ms response time
    As i understand, it's basically the same as tachyon mode, please correct me if I'm wrong.
    The main difference here is just the analog switches

  • @ADDISON396
    @ADDISON396 Год назад

    I'm pretty sure in your country bro, if they sent you the item free, then by advertising standards, it IS an ad. (In the UK its even worse with ASA being unclear on if a REVIEW is an ad or not, ) but if you're sent the item, in your country, its defo counted as sponsored and I'm pretty sure counts as an "ad" too, so you may want to adjust/mute the audio for the part where you explicitly say the opposite.

  • @FROGxDELIVER
    @FROGxDELIVER Год назад

    I don't think mechanical over membrane is an actual advantage if you're used to membrane's feel. Unless it has objectively slower response time, it's all about preference. Though mechanical rightfully are more popular because people generally prefer that

  • @nadolhcv7052
    @nadolhcv7052 Год назад

    so you can just hold W to tap strafe?

  • @dhrida5518
    @dhrida5518 Год назад +1

    I have a membrane keyboard I am pleased with it but it's a one hand keyboard with like 36 keys or whatever having a small space bar is great no clicks missed this one might do the difference off drop when there is many teams contesting your landing spot to consider this to the equivalent of a strike pack is just copium to having aim assist it might help get the right timing but if you are pressing keys at the wrong time no keyboard can bless you lol

  • @grade_c
    @grade_c Год назад

    I have a pretty bad PC, and I didnt really know how bad it was until I went o my friend's house and played on his. I am only ever able to get a couple kills on mine (it runs at like 25 fps) but on his I dropped like kills. Thats when I realized I dont actually suck, its just my setup 😂😂

  • @Zeppe1in
    @Zeppe1in Год назад

    I've never tried it, but everyone says it's easy to press. I'm using a QK75 keyboard and it's pretty easy to hit the Supergilde.

  • @skawattle1213
    @skawattle1213 Год назад +2

    Unless the wooting can give you Aim Assist then its not even close to cheating

  • @wi1dcard192
    @wi1dcard192 Год назад

    I find it strange that people are complaining about the variable actuation distance. (For example on space vs control). On any modern hot swappable keyboard you can just purchase a single mechanical switch that has a higher actuation distance and accomplish the exact same thing, it’s just easier on a wooting. The rapid fire again can be accomplished by high actuation point switches, albeit less fluid.
    I don’t think the wooting deserves to be called a cheating device just because it makes these customizations more accessible. It’s just a very good peripheral.

  • @monkeyclub2100
    @monkeyclub2100 Год назад +2

    The fact that someone could say a different kind of key switch is the same as a strike pack is so brain dead. Oh no, someone is a couple milliseconds faster than me!!! They’re cheating!!!! Good lord.
    It’s the same as saying a better monitor, gpu, or internet connection is cheating. The more important thing to worry about is your own skill. Cringe tbh.

  • @Flo_GMR
    @Flo_GMR Год назад

    The New Apex pro TKL with 0,2mm is also very good

  • @liv6646
    @liv6646 Год назад +2

    If I can hit a superglide 80-90% of the time on a laptop keyboard, then everyone can.

    • @liv6646
      @liv6646 Год назад +1

      @@Divinity_vA funny you mention controller, tried it today using my phone as a gamepad. Like it is 0.4 on PC but without touching my right stick and just strafing while holding the shoot btn, I could one clip dummies. It just locks on, I didn't know it was this powerful tbh

    • @liv6646
      @liv6646 Год назад +1

      No wonder pros and some top preds play on controller. This plus scripts or configs is just straight up cheating imo.

    • @liv6646
      @liv6646 Год назад

      @@Divinity_vAHey, no need to get this offensive. They both have their pros and cons but as a FPS game, aiming and shooting are the main part of it. Controllers definitely have an advantage at that. But they have to cater to the average joe, who just wants to casually game and win without having to put much effort.
      I mostly just want the option to separate games on input, MNK and controllers ( both pc, console). Also ban/limit usage of zen/movement scripts/steam input configs. It would definitely improve experience for both experienced players and new players.

    • @Pancakes70
      @Pancakes70 Год назад

      ​@@liv6646that's if you're on pc console Na it's bad.

  • @ihavecrabs56
    @ihavecrabs56 Год назад

    they should just make it so these things are made possible on lower end hardware. that way everyone has access to these techniques

  • @triyo1089
    @triyo1089 Год назад

    Then there’s me who just uses custom key boards 😂 id give up performance for my zoom65 any day bc its just a dream to type on

  • @jomio4682
    @jomio4682 5 месяцев назад

    As long as macros are left out of the picture making inputs more like real time isn’t anything near cheating, plus controller and Mnk shouldn’t be compared anyways because of the difference of those

  • @hockeyplayer39
    @hockeyplayer39 Год назад

    Steelseries makes a keyboard with per key actuation as well

  • @chessfan10
    @chessfan10 Год назад

    I want one so my movement can be at 100% while my aim stays at 50%.

  • @TailicaiCorporation
    @TailicaiCorporation Год назад

    Yea I’m a controller player (been on console most of my life and so MnK isn’t where I’m at yet… trying to get my gaming PC soon) and ain’t no way that’s the same thing as the strike pack or chronos thing… turbo buttons and changing assignments to perform multiple actions is just simply cheating. Now I have a similar feeling about mouse wheel for multiple jump inputs for tap strafing but yet ppl complaining that controller players shouldn’t be able to link their movement stick to about the same thing, but that’s a different topic all together even though I just play on normal controller config.
    Btw I’ve just started trying to incorporate super glides with my controller on my dying laptop (it fluctuates between 80 fps to 5fps depending on wth is going on) and I’ve been able to do it more than a handful of times and I can’t even wall jump on a consistent basis. So it ain’t THAT hard to learn.

  • @theglavenglossproject2693
    @theglavenglossproject2693 Год назад

    2 questions, did you get banned and how expensive is this thing?

  • @durikke2
    @durikke2 Год назад

    Getting a low ping does have its drawbacks... no lag compensation at all

  • @bullshizzmccoy4034
    @bullshizzmccoy4034 Год назад

    "Obviously, a $5k computer wont make you better at aiming." The irony...

  • @denizbinay42
    @denizbinay42 Год назад

    can not be cheating, I have one for weeks and I still suck.
    @ottr, you do not press the two keys with the same finger? Can you hit them consistently?

    • @ottr
      @ottr  Год назад +1

      No I'm more comfortable hitting c and space with separate fingers

  • @peartkishi
    @peartkishi Год назад

    So you mean to tell me the reason why whenever Im in a gun and flustering like an idiot, trying to do things quickly, pressing the same button multiple times and not getting my desired result is due to my keyboard shitty input lag???????? Where tf do I buy?

  • @NolanBollan
    @NolanBollan Год назад

    So it’s adding/remove dead zones to a keyboard.

  • @supreme84x
    @supreme84x Год назад

    I've got a Wooting 60he and still can't super glide or do any movement shit.

  • @chlebaQQ
    @chlebaQQ Год назад

    do you want to nmake a video how to paly kings canyon?

  • @ghstproject
    @ghstproject Год назад

    WIthout macros I would be lost. Just yesterday my right mouse button stopped working and I just made a macro to get rid off the gshift and bind right mouse click to it! :D
    Last year my scroll wheel stopped working for almost a year I used G4 and G5 keys on my keyboard to loot boxes in apex legends! :D

  • @booker4984
    @booker4984 Год назад +1

    I guess it’s cheating, but it’s nothing you can’t replicate by going into CFG files.
    I can do whatever movement tech I want. And it’s not cheating it’s not considered bannable

  • @tyandag6313
    @tyandag6313 Год назад

    this is the 2nd time hearing about the wooting keyboard being considered as "cheater keyboard" from a different community

  • @CoffeeFresh_
    @CoffeeFresh_ Год назад

    My problem with the keyboard shown, its not a ten keyless.

  • @SnackZatPC
    @SnackZatPC Год назад

    steelseries do have this. i have it on my steelseries apex pro.

  • @Wreck0nize1232
    @Wreck0nize1232 Год назад +1

    It’s legit just a really good keyboard ppl should cope 🤣 ppl only complain when they can’t afford it or ain’t good with it

  • @shondavis54
    @shondavis54 Год назад +5

    I as well have a wooting 60he and I have to say NO this is not cheating kinda, yes This keyboard has alot of Functions to make your gameplays a bit better. The 1mm Activation points, rapid trigger, analog inputs, tachyon mode for faster inputs this board is a beast for Fps lovers and mmorpg or just any games all around, but there is one other keyboard that does the same thing as the wooting and that is the SteelSeries apex pro or pro mini. it doesnt have all the stuff wooting has other then the 2mm Activation points. you still need to have some type of knowledge to do any tricks in Apex, even with the wooting in hand for the first day. when i first got my keyboard I still wasnt proforming the superglides, wall jumps till after two weeks of just playing with the wooting. The keyboard is hit or miss for some IMO, but i can see why this is board is being called out. It just too damn fast the only way other boards can come close to a wooting is to either get keycaps rings to push the activation point from 5mm to a 3mm even to 2mm or 1mm that if you want to experiment, or overall mod your keyboards by opening it up and lube each key swich, and tape mod that sucker for a kinda wooting 60he experience but for other boards to have that tachyon mode feeling idk lag switch or something i have no clue. Ottr you make me a better apex player every day with you're videos thanks man, keep up the great work.

    • @ilikehiking
      @ilikehiking Год назад +1

      60% is not gonna be great in an MMO unfortunately

    • @shondavis54
      @shondavis54 Год назад

      @@ilikehiking i hope you know we are talking about the wooting 60he witch is a 60%, but can be customized be any button or combination of inputs a regular 60% can't do at all, unless you use macros so yes your only 50% correct, but your referring to boards that are not the 60he. so yes this 60% keyboard itself can play any mmorpg very easily and better then a regular 60%.

    • @shondavis54
      @shondavis54 Год назад

      @@ilikehiking trust me I tested this sucker out on 100+ games in every category it really works better then i can tell you.

    • @ilikehiking
      @ilikehiking Год назад

      @@shondavis54 You can reprogram pretty much every 60% keyboard on the market with modifiers and such. It's just simply too much of a pain in the ass in an MMO as they have a lot of keybinds. Having extra keys available even for actions that aren't important in combat such as mounting or whatever is just too valuable, and I just cannot be bothered to reprogram and learn the modifiers for so many actions just because this company decided to adapt a stupid minimalist layout. If I only played shooters like Apex I would instantly buy this, but unfortunately I play more games.
      I'm not the only one who thinks 60% sucks, every video about this keyboard has people saying this. As much as I want this keyboard from a technological standpoint, I know that they will eventually release a TKL or 75% keyboard so I'll just wait it out. Patience is a virtue.

    • @shondavis54
      @shondavis54 Год назад +1

      @@ilikehiking Not really majority of 60% boards don't have a program to change anything like any board you get on amazon if it not a razor Logitech, corsair or ASUS your assed out, everything else sounds more like a skill issue and if you have big hands this wont work for you since alot of ppl in the world have the time and the brain power to make key profiles for what ever you are doing I have profiles for typing, fps, driving sims and mmorpgs and can remember all my key presses so if this is a problem for you it may not be a problem for many others and they did have a TKL board but was discontinued it may come back in a year or two. This is a dope conversation. (meaning good)

  • @keenannor2917
    @keenannor2917 Год назад +2

    PS11 gonna be hype 🔥🔥💯

  • @xenomxrph
    @xenomxrph Год назад +2

    Does the keyboard make superglides etc easier, sure... Comparing it to a strikepack/cronus is just dumb and it should rather be compared to a battlebeaver or something like that with paddles on the back making it easier to press certain buttons.
    Does tachyon mode help? While yes, it loweres the input latency, but you forgot to consider the fact that most if not all humans wont notice the difference between 2ms and 1ms. Hitting your peak wasnt limited to your keyboards latency. Adjustable actuation points are not a Wooting exclusive, plenty of gaming keyboards have adjustable actuation points so adding that to one of the reasons a wooting should be banned is just dumb. Its a nice feature, but nothing special. RapidFire might be the most "OP" feature in my eyes, but the clip comparing rapidfire vs a standard keyboard is incredibly misinformative and could be considered false advertisement LMAO. Nobody is telling you to BOTTOM OUT your standard keyboard. Get to know your keyboard, learn the actuation point, hover just above it and with small micro adjustments and boom, you effectively made your own rapidfire technology..
    To end this little rant, the first pc was made 10 years before any membrane keyboard.. Razer released the blackwidow in 2010, 13 years ago! No, mechanical keyboards were not rare or expensive, it was 80 bucks on release. You only find budget keyboards below that price TODAY! I can pull multiple mechanical keyboards from before you were even born out of the closet man. Started with called Inhuman an impression farmer and proceeds to spend over 8 minutes basically spreading misinformation.. jfc do better Ottr

  • @Worsterest
    @Worsterest 9 месяцев назад

    Steelseries apex pro already had all this for ages lol

  • @zaxgaming8686
    @zaxgaming8686 Год назад +1

    as a wooting 60he keyboard user, don't ban it or i'll stop spending money on the game. 👏👏WOOTING 60HE IS NOT CHEATING 👏👏sure its a "competitive advantage" but it would never beat a cfg user / cfg controller user. If anything should be removed it would be cfg controller users, they get aim assist and movement. im not being prejudice against controller players in general, but the cfg files allow with using a controller.

  • @YOUTUBE_CHRIS
    @YOUTUBE_CHRIS Год назад

    I don't care to use a macro, but consistent input times is what interests me

  • @ItsDdvdd
    @ItsDdvdd Год назад +3

    I got the SteelSeries apex pro, it has dual actuation as well as adjustable actuation. So can hit space bar, and actuate both jump and then crouch, in that order. Jump actuation is halfway, crouch is at the bottom. Super glide accuracy is probably 90%+.
    The timing is all me though, I dont consider it cheating because of that. My friend who doesn't play mnk tried and it took him ~15 tries to hit his first successful glide. It makes it WAY easier to be consistent, but its still a skill

    • @ItsDdvdd
      @ItsDdvdd Год назад

      Added benefit is that you can free up the v or c keybind. I've got crouch bound to "p"

    • @unkkit151
      @unkkit151 Год назад

      I set the jump actuation halfway and crouch at the bottom and it doesn't work well for me. What FPS do you play at?

    • @ItsDdvdd
      @ItsDdvdd Год назад +2

      @@unkkit151 okay I just checked and I was indeed wrong. Jump actuation is at the very top at 0.2mm, and crouch is at the very bottom at 3.8mm. Good luck, happy supergliding!
      I play at 140fps

  • @cSimplicity_
    @cSimplicity_ Год назад

    Why would there be a problem with this keyboard when the whole of pc can just config file it??

  • @CoolSs
    @CoolSs Год назад

    6:12 true. I upgraded my CPU (got i5 12400) and i already upgraded to 144hz monitor. My K/D moved from hard 0.84 to 1. Also it got bit easier for me. Still, i need to git gud.

  • @51ckl3y3
    @51ckl3y3 Год назад

    apex should release their own keyboard using these mechanic so no one complains standardize gameplay by input

    • @yahootube90
      @yahootube90 Год назад

      Hear me out, and I know this will never happen... but instead, they could just make it so these mechanics aren't frame-dependent. I know, I know it's just a pipe dream.

  • @o3nisoaso3
    @o3nisoaso3 Год назад

    Wishing everyone on PC was on a level playing field is putting everyone back onto console but console days like PS3

  • @simonemereu1581
    @simonemereu1581 Год назад

    me personally supergliding is really ez just put V as secondary crouch and then you can superglide easier try it

  • @hugeman8507
    @hugeman8507 Год назад

    wooting keyboards have been controversial in a bunch of games, i know of 3 including apex (osu and trackmania) and it feels like the general consensus is that people who get them think they are definitely an advantage over other keyboards

    • @yahootube90
      @yahootube90 Год назад +1

      Of course they are an advantage. Better quality hardware is always an advantage in PC gaming. Better mice, better monitors, better keyboards, better GPUs, etc. will always give an advantage in games that are about speed, control, and response times.

  • @yahootube90
    @yahootube90 Год назад

    If the complaint that better peripherals/hardware is cheating, then I think people better play on console instead of PC. Of course, some people have paddles on their controllers and strike packs, and better resolution TVs, etc., so the problem won't completely go away there, but it is perhaps reduced.

  • @supaweeb4076
    @supaweeb4076 Год назад

    Nah, it just makes movement easier to do(if you have no knowledge then its kinda useless), doesnt make u have 0 recoil and aim for you.

  • @VeexFPS
    @VeexFPS Год назад

    It feels so sponsored ngl..

  • @jasonanees26
    @jasonanees26 6 месяцев назад

    As someone who has a 90% consistensy with super gliding on console it's not that hard if you get the timing right so don't cheat pls go in the firing range and train

  • @Obye.
    @Obye. Год назад

    As a console player I can hit super glides left and right I’ve gotten the timing down

  • @TheRealMonstaa
    @TheRealMonstaa Год назад

    Agreed and with great reasoning!

  • @vulturex3265
    @vulturex3265 Год назад

    Stock is expected late June............I'll wait till in stock to order. Thanks about time keyboards got upgrades.

    • @theanode
      @theanode Год назад +1

      It's almost always for pre-order only right now. I had to pre-order, cause if you want to wait for it to be in stock, you'll wait for a while until queue will empty out.

    • @Arthfayle
      @Arthfayle Год назад +1

      If you wait for stock youre gonna keep waiting. As soon as its in its sold out to pre-orders

  • @losinggeneration
    @losinggeneration Год назад

    I rarely comment, but I know keyboards. I've made over a dozen custom keyboards (most are kits, but one has been of my own design and one other hand wired.) I also have over 120 different variations of switches (mostly one-off sample switches.) While you can't (easily) get the level of control of analog switches, you can very easily have different actuation switches in different locations. So I 100% agree this isn't even remotely the same as cheating.

  • @Sensationalcomedian
    @Sensationalcomedian Год назад

    Ottr mannen vad föreslår du att man ska köra med i Apex, tangentbord och mus eller kontroller? Jag är vanligt vis en kontroller spelare men det känns som aimassist är op så jag försöker gå över till tangentbordet🫤

  • @Audysseus
    @Audysseus Год назад

    You think they're going to ban it at all? I doubt it is that contreversial

  • @yungsteazy
    @yungsteazy Год назад +1

    If you guys ever want to make content calling things cheating that are obviously not cheating is a great way to farm viewers I love how gullible the internet is now a days say something wrong and on purpose and the internet will correct you love it

  • @willnewell9242
    @willnewell9242 Год назад

    i own the wooting 60he and it defo is not cheating lol in a game like osu where clicking matters way more people dont even consider it cheating ik this is just for content but it honestly does not make a big difference for apex

  • @guxery8901
    @guxery8901 Год назад

    u can just set up a config that caps ur fps to 30 for a slit second so all u gotta do is scroll at the right time and boom its that easy i have used it for 500 hours but now i play controller and could care less abt super gliding

  • @darkySp
    @darkySp 9 месяцев назад

    Wooting offer not a crutch or some feature like macros that automates or manipulates inputs, it's a legitimate innovation on keyboard switches.
    How the hell do you compare a technological innovation that improves responsiveness to something that gives you an advantage through automation ?
    If we go by this logic, let's call G-Sync/FreeSync and Nvidia Reflex to be cheating, because they give you consistency and lower latency than compared without them!
    I don't see a single solid point that can be made against Wooting's Lekker switches to justify it as "cheating", what the hell LOL

  • @JoelVenc
    @JoelVenc Год назад

    So people say it cheating because you're able to make it faster💀

  • @AIMSoothsayer
    @AIMSoothsayer Год назад

    this keyboard already got banned in trackmania tournaments due to its completely customizable input ratio's. But this is apex they don't care what your doing as long as your playing the game... my only real issue with it thoo is how ez they make for people to setup macro's, that will be abused no doubt.

  • @mrkisback
    @mrkisback Год назад

    Ottr approved.

  • @kimichi7123
    @kimichi7123 Год назад

    Steelseries apex pro does basically the same

  • @NoRegLegend
    @NoRegLegend Год назад +2

    I got Steel Series Apex Pro Full. This has custom Actuation. The only real advantage is the faster response time and slightly more consistent super glides.
    Once he mentioned Rapid Fire, I can definitely see this being cheating.
    I went from Razer Blackwidow 2016 to a custom Keyboard then to the Apex Pro because they latency and actuation were closer to my old keyboard.

    • @WanderDMC
      @WanderDMC Год назад

      It's not actually rapid fire. It's hard to explain, but I'm pretty sure it's all your inputs and the keyboard is just able to read them better compared to other keyboards. No automation involved