Thanks for the review, i bought a DP-UB450 for my Lg C1 and it has a very solid picture quality, i dont' need all that hdr tweaks from a player and i don't like disturbing displays or Apps i already have on my C1, yes the DP-UB450 has a cheap looking but it is much smaller and thin, almost invisible. Who cares when the picture quality is so high. I did not choose it for the price, i have no problems in buying the more expensive 820 but i dont pay for things i do not need. I was impressed with HDR Blu-Rays and the Full-Hd Blu-Ray upscaling is exceptional. I liked your review because in this comparison you documented the differences. Well done !
Thanks very much for this extremely detailed & thorough review of both players...I'm gonna go with the 820 mainly due to the physical attributes...I like your style of presentation!
Have the ub450 and have always been happy. If you dont need the bells and whistles the ub450 is all you need for a budget player 4k. Picture quality wise and sound wise the ub450 is excellent.
@@RichyRich2607The 450 plays Dolby Atmos - actually, it doesn’t depend on the player itself but the AV unit you use. The player sends bitstream and the AV amp decodes it (or not) into Dolby Atmos, DTS HD or other formats.
I bought the ub820 on black Friday. Surprised to find it had the latest firmware out of box. It performs exceptionally. But i don't like how if "vieralink" (cec) is enabled, it forces itself to be the main input when everything is turned on. I only have time to enjoy discs on the weekends. So the rest of the week, I'm forced to switch inputs upon powering up, or disabling CEC on the UB820, which forces me to use the UB820 remote, and do the remote juggling.
Got me the DP-UB820 a couple of months back. Like it a lot. Apart from great looking HDR pictures the upscaling is really phenomenal giving new life to my DVD collection.
@@alyx4436 I am still very pleased with my player. It has served me well. The only shortcoming is it's limited file support when used as a media player. But disc wise it's good. The HDR optimiser setting it shares with the top model DP-UB9000 is really good. You get the best tone mapping for your specific output device type.
Yeah but it can't remember where it left off on DVD's which is unacceptable. Also you can't change aspect ratio. How can't it get those two basics right?
@@Revolver1981 I haven't noticed any aspect ratio s being off. The only aspect rations needed with DVD-video should be 4:3 or 16:9 as far as I know. I am using a LG OLED and do my upscaling on the Panasonic player.
@@bitnisse7186 I have a couple of 4:3 ratio discs and this Panasonic can't change the aspect ratio to make it full screen. We have to put up with black bars on the left and right sides of the screen. That's an absolute disgrace. That's why I sent mine back for a refund. Also the irritating buffering circle on screen every time you load a disc and it makes a weird loud noise when loading a disc as well. It's unacceptable for a powerful player like this.
Great review! Quick question, does the UB820 display a the time at front the when on standby? I've noticed that 4K Blu-Ray players don't seem to have that feature for some reason which is a shame as it is convenient for the living room. This will be the deciding factor between the UB450 and the UB820 because if the UB820 doesn't display the time when on standby it is not worth me spending the extra money when the UB450 otherwise meets my requirements. Thanks
Hey Gurdit - unfortunately, UB820 does not have this function. It is really strange as it is a simple function and a very convenient one, but I doubt this will be added in future firmware updates.
@@TVguyDarko That's such a shame. I don't see why they don't have that feature anymore. Seems like the UB450 is the choice for me then. Thanks for the reply :)
Great comparison. Wish I saw this a week before. I agonised between the two this Black Friday. However I probably still would have chosen the UB820 due to the annoying red light on the front of the UB450.
Yeah the red light should be the standby light and it should turn green or blue when turned on. I also don't understand the annoying loud noises Panasonic players make when loading a disc.
@@TVguyDarko Thanks for the reply. It all looks like the DP-UB450 makes sense. My only hesitation is I am also looking at purchasing a decent (~$500) sound system for our TV and media box (currently using builtin and $40 3.5mm computer speakers). Would the Panasonic DP-UB450 limit my audio options? Running the audio through the HDMI out --> TV --> sound system....would this reduce quality a lot and not maximise the Bluray and sound system audio? Thanks for any advice.
With optical connection you can connect the 820 with a stereo amp.Does it play DVD +R DL?In my country there is Panasonic Blu-Ray Player DP-UB824EGK.Which is more new 820 or 824 i think.
Recently purchased this unit going to pair it with a Samsung QN900B which does not support dolby vision, should i turn off dolby vision on the 4k bluray player or leave it on. Any help would be great ? Thanks.. Phil
Hey Phillip - you can try both options and see which will give you better image quality. I think there will not be any difference if DV signal comes to the TV and TV does conversion to HDR10 or if the player does it.
Hi ! Thanks for your review. I have bought 4 weeks ago a Panasonic 55GZ1000 and the UB450. But the 2 Ultra HD Blu-Ray discs I have bought with Dolby Vision (Gladiator and Westworld season 2) are very dark. (Those in « simple » HDR (Arthur, Men in Black) are good). Is there anything I can do with the 450 ? You show a brightness menu at 4:57 that I can’t find on m’y 450. But you also say that the 820 have special settings for dark screens ? Thanks for your help :-) !
Hey Alan! First of all, thank you for your comment and mentioning that Gladiator is available in Dolby Vision - I've just purchased myself a copy :). I expect to receive GZ950 probably the end of next month so I will check out picture controls and so on. Have you tried different picture presets while TV is in Dolby Vision mode? UB820 BD player has HDR Optimizer function that makes image brighter in HDR and you can tweak it more than UB450, but if you find HDR10 content OK and DV not OK, then probably something is not correct with picture settings. BTW - how is deep color output set on your player - is it on Auto (12bit priority)?
@@TVguyDarko Hi, Thanks for your answer. Yes I've tried the 3 preset of Dolby Vision, and I have personalised ont to have more lights, but not enough. Yes it is in auto 12 bit, is it good ?
Sneeky4kGaming , I’m not Darko but regular Blu-ray has 8 bit. UHD Blu-ray can be 10 bit. However those can be in SDR or HDR. I would turn off Deep Colour for regular discs and for 4K Ultra HD in SDR or HDR set it to auto.
Thank you for the comparison. Is the upscaling of standard Blu-Ray the same in terms of quality? Also, with the UB450 coming with a tiny remote control, do you know if a replacement UB820 remote control will work with the UB450? Many thanks
Hello - thank you for watching! Upscaling quality is the same if you do not want to further tweak the image - in that case UB820 has an advantage. I personally never use those extra options as I prefer “pure direct” approach and anyway TVs have plenty of controls if I want to do something. Related to the remote, I think it should work.
Hello, Great review! By the way, can you please confirm whether the HCX processor in the 820 machine is *only* there for the Picture Optimizer function? (ie. if you're relying on your OLED TV to do your picture tweaking, then the player's HCX hardware is bypassed?
Any idea how Headphones sound when connected to a DAC that's paired with an Optical Cable and sent to the Panasonic 820 or 420's Optical port? I just want high quality 2 channel headphone lossles LPCM audio that gets loud. And is there any differences in 2 channel headphone audio quality between the 820 or 420? Thanks!
Neither remote control has Audio and Subtitles buttons that let you cycle through audio tracks and subs. May not be a deal-breaker for some, but could be for others. All my other Blu-ray and DVD players have those buttons, and I can no-look press the button repeatedly to switch audio and sub. But with these two players, you have to press the Options button to enter a full-screen UI, press Up, Down, OK, etc., in order to choose a different audio track and sub. Even if you use a universal remote like Harmony, you cannot program this yourself, because the separate Audio and Subtitles functions simply don't exist in the original remote.
What's the difference between Ub820 and ub824? I'm trying to get ub820 but it's really difficult to find right now so I'm thinking about 824 it's going to be available on october 16 on amazon in some countries.
@@TVguyDarko hey thanks for the reply. I did own the BX but it was terrible during dark scenes, I did play around with settings but it didn’t help. I’ve returned it for the CX but I’m still waiting for it to arrive. I don’t do any gaming, just watch movies streamed via Netflix and 4K movies I’ve downloaded.
Hey again, i have a denon 2300w receiver and a panasonic 820 4k player and a samsung 900b. What is the best way to connect all three to get lossless audio through my speakers and 4k to my tv, i know the 820 has two hdmi outputs one is audio and one is video , would i connect hdmi audio out to receiver and the hdmi video out straight to tv or would i use the passthough on the receiver with one hdmi cable to receiver, or is there another way. Any help would be great. Thanks again...Phil
I have the ub450 and I'm having issues with the home network - network contents playback I have my Ethernet cable plugged in and in settings it says Ethernet is detected yet when I try to go into network contents playback it won't connect. It says please wait and then comes up with the message - cannot connect. Please confirm network connection and settings Any ideas please?
Have 820 for my 120” screen, JVC 4K projector. JVC doesn’t play Dolby Vision but had theater mode HDR tone mapping that has gotten great review s . JVC national rep said factors in screen size, material, gain, distance & projector lamp age.
what type of AC plug come's with it i live in Canada and are oulets are not the same over in the UK. does it come with a north america plug or do i need to buy a AC Plug Converter. also does this player let you turn on subtitles
Hi... nice review ! Btw, i wanna ask about the audio out port, its only mention FRONT, SURROUND, SURROUND BACK, and CENTRE, how do we arrange left and right channel ?
Hey - if would allow you to have more control in regards to HDR - highlight details preservation, fine-tuning luminance, colors and so on. If you are not happy with controls you currently have on the player and on the TV and if you find HDR picture too dark for example, then it would be a worthy upgrade.
Hey, appreciate this is a year later but did you find the answer to this? I have an OLED and want to make the picture look brighter and wondering whether either the 450 or 820 would make any difference. Thanks
Hi I purchased 450 recently after seeing this great video, as he says both have same picture quality. I have a Atmos Soundbar. So do I connect HDMI cable to my OLED TV to the soundbar and then another connect HDMI cable from the Soundbar to 'audio out' hdmi socket on the 450 player, for better sound.
Great review, was wondering which one to take since it's a complete jungle in bluray player with some doing upscalling, some having native and in a range of price that's crazy (from price Z to Z x 6). Since having a brand new tv with dolby vision then I was looking for one player with that feature but having some negative feedback on Sony product. Looks like the UB450 does to job properly, it might not be perfect but half the price of the UB820 that looks nicer and have advanced settings; not sure I will use it enough nor tweak anything so I will go for the UB450. Thanks for all the tips !
Can’t find any other videos comparing these players, but I’ve heard the upscaling for the 450 is worse than the 820’s? Is there any chance you could show us how DVDs and regular Blu Rays look when upscaled on both of these?
can i connect the DP-UB450 player to my computer monitor? and if i can will it have sound? i have a speaker and headphones connected to my computer, so if i can connect the player into my monitor could i hear the movies from my speaker/headphones? thanks.
Can you connect to your computer’s monitor ? Yes via HDMI (video out), and the sounds... only if you have speaker that has HDMI audio in port (then you can use HDMI audio out in UB450)
Is there a noticable difference PQ and AQ-wise between the 450 and the 820? I watch my movies on an LG OLED55C27 and I do not use any special speakers, just the ones on the TV.
Great review 👍 Small/big technical question: I have a tv samsung qe75q90r that is not dolby vision, only hdr10. If I buy a 4k dolby vision bluray player that decodes these metadovers, would I have the equivalent of dolby vision on my TV? In a way it would be the reader who will send the contrasting image dynamically to the TV that will only display it. Thank you
Are you absolutely sure that it is not just upscaling everything to 4K, as opposed to being native (recently borrowed word!) and is not in fact playing without adjustments made to videos, at 2k? You see, it is only the title (not specifications) showing on Amazon that states the term 4K UHD (with that specific wording), whereas on all other retail sites the wording reads as '4K/HD'.
Hvala na testu. Imam sony x700 ali svaki duži film zamrzava u kasnijem periodu filma u nekom momentu. Sutra ću da ga reklamiram i tražim UB450 samo mi je frka da li će prihvatiti reklamaciju. Da li si čuo o tom problemu na sony-ju? Ili sonijima uopšte? Cene u SRB nisu baš normalne. 820 je 500e a 450 malo više od 200.
Thanks for this review. Given that current TVs are so good and the level of picture adjustments are significant, it would seem spending more on the 820 would be pointless.
Hey Ron - thanks for watching! I've bought it from an eBay seller located in the UK. Actually that is the second I've bought since the first one had issue playing the discs so I returned it.
Very nice review!👍 I'm using the UB-450 only as secondary setup and it works just fine. One thing that does annoy me to no end is that I can't control the UB-450 player with my TV remote from Philips. Even when the CEC is enabled and EasyLink on the Phillips TV. Did you encounter the same problem, when testing these units? Current setups are: Living - Video: Sony 55XG9505, Audio: Sonos Beam Gen 2, Sub Gen 3, Player: Sony X800M2, Streambox: Apple TV Mancave - Video: Philips 43PUS8546, Audio: Sonos Beam Gen 2, Player: Panasonic UB450, Streambox: Apple TV
Dear Darko, can you please tell me, if any of those 2 Panasonic players can play (via USB or BD-R disk) web-dl files with DD Plus audio. I have Panasonic and Sony UHD players, both play video, but it says "audio format unsupported". I am desperately looking for UHD player with this capability. Thank you and all the best!!
I have an LG OLED55B9S and I'm looking for a good player for 200€ or less (a little more is possible but not too much). I have seen Sony X700 but the fact that DV activation is not automatic is a no for me. I was going for the LG UBK90 but I've read some issues. Is the Panasonic UB450 better than those? Is there another better choice? I'm going to use it only for discs, I have every streaming service built-in my TV, and Plex is also there, so I really don't need all the USB, photo etc. things, it's just to watch my blu-ray. (At first I thought i'd use the PS5 but it seems it won't have Dolby Vision for 4K Blu-Rays...)
Thanks for the helpful video! I'm trying to decide between this and the Sony UPB-X700 and was hoping someone might be able to answer a few questions: - Does this player support DTS:X? And does it automatically choose between this / Dolby Atmos depending on the disc (and same question for Dolby Vision / HDR10)? - If yes, then if I connect via HDMI to a soundbar (LG SL10YG) which connects to the TV (LG C9) will those still be automatically selected? - Preference between the two players? Apologies for the picky questions, just don't want to regret my purchase!
Hi Giles! Thanks for watching! Panasonic UHD BD players do support DTS:X and they will automatically switch to Dolby Vision based on content metadata. SL10YG seems to be able to pass through Dolby Vision content, but at max 24 Hz which is perfectly fine for movies - www.reddit.com/r/Soundbars/comments/evtstm/lg_sl10yg_dolby_vision_passthrough/ I own DP-UB820 and except for archaic menus, I like it very much.
I just switched from the UBP-X700 to a region-free modded UB820 (the UB450 isn't available here in the U.S.), and I totally agree. All Sony 4K players with Dolby Vision require manually turning it on & off in the settings to avoid unwanted DV processing on non-DV discs; nearly all other 4K players with DV will activate it only as needed so long as DV is on in the settings. (Same for HDR10+; AFAIK Pannys from the UB450 up are the *only* players that support both DV & HDR10+. Panasonic even claims to support HLG on discs though I thought that was strictly for broadcasting, cable, etc.; I don't know of any discs with HLG.) And *any* Blu-ray player (regular or 4K) that can bitstream DTS-HD Master Audio (the vast majority of them) can also bitstream DTS:X, which is just DTS-HD MA with metadata. (Same for Atmos on discs which is just TrueHD with metadata.)
Hi all and greetings from Finland. Great videos. I am struggling with 4K picture quality from discs. Streaming is ok. I have Samsung 58" Q60T and UB450. Is there any harm if I leave 4K (50/60p) output to max 4:4:4? Even my tv I assume is not cabable for those? Same goes for that deep colour setup, is it ok to leave max 12bit? I have noticed if I leave 24p output off, picturce quality suffers, with automatic its ok. My problems have been, that 4k quality from 4k uhd discs are not near as good than from RUclips, Netflix etc. Difference between 4K UHD disc and regular blu-ray is very small if there is at all difference. Sry my poor English. Hope you can help.
@@giovannizanocco7982 Basically yes and no. :) I bought better TV. I have two players side by side atm. Panasonic and Sony UBP-x800m2. Can't say there is much difference between picture quality, but what makes Sony better is software and options. Its easier to use. Pana has Dolby Vision, but my TV is Samsung so no use with that. Both are good players, but daily usage I usually go with Sony. My TV was 58" Q60T and atm I have 75" Q90T. Biggest difference is there.
Hi there, i jus bought a Samsung 65q90r with q80r atmos soundbar, trying to decide between the ub450 or ub820? Would i need the hcx optimizer since the panel on the q90r is so good as it is? Ub450 seems a more dedictaed atmos system. Any help is much appreciated
Sorry to jump on, I have a Sony oled and the HDR Optimisor has definitely made 4k blu rays look better, even on a top end TV like ours. The player's upscaling on standard blu rays is also improved. My previous player was a UB900, which was a really, really good player anyway. Bottom line is, this will make your physical media look a little bit better. Great bit of kit..
Thanks very much for the reply. I also started looking at ub420 which seems to have everything however only one website sells it and not sure they are legit. Still undecided at the moment lol but leaning more to the 820.
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Hello Chris! Thanks for your comment! UB824 is the same model, just different model number for different markets. I hope it will bring you a lot of pleasure!
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If these ones are regionfree do you change The region with The controller? Or does it change by it self does anyone know? Im from sweden and have alot of reg 1 on dvd and reg a on blu ray i cant play yet.
By the Remote, but if its says Region Band you want Region Free it will play everything inc old dvds, try tps or multiregionmagic or 220electronics, the last one is in America and if you have questions you can email them, very efficient, the other 2 are UK Based, unless you fancy a Reavon from France .
@@TVguyDarko But it comes on the UB420 with same remote as the 450 for same price @ $150 now... but no Dolby Vision in one set of specs and several threads on it that may have read the same spec sheet I found.... you replied back Shep Shepard that 420 supports Dolby Vision.... very confusing as seems like the 450 is lower quality unit than the 420 without HCX processor that comes in the 820 and 9000.??
I am a bit late in the game, but thanks for the review.. seems the UB450 is the way to go for the Ultra BR disks for the price and resulting picture at that price. Wanted to get HDR+ and Dolby Vision support and both players will do that..
Thanks for watching and commenting! Yes, UB450 remains best buy if you need both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision support. If only HDR10/10+ is needed, there is an even cheaper model from Panasonic DP-UB150.
I got my UB450 a couple of days ago from John Lewis online store in the UK for £179, and get a longer guarantee as a result. I’m happy with it overall. It is cheap, light and nasty feeling, but it works well and plays all HDR formats; HLG, HDR10, HDR10+ and Dolby Vision. I have a Samsung QN90A so no Dolby Vision for me, but I have a couple of HDR10+ discs including American Gangster, which is also full screen (no black bars) and looks amazing. Unlike most reviews including this one, my UB450 red LED is only on when it is switched on. When it is switched off, the red LED goes out.
Thanks for sharing your experience! UB450 still remains a great all-in-one disc player - I see Panasonic also has DP-UB150EG-K - which currently goes for 161 euro in Croatia and offers HCX picture processor but no Dolby Vision.
Great review as always. I just bought the 450 on zoom for 180 with 5 free UHD films (Blackkklansman, Skyscraper, Blade Runner 2049, Pacific Rim: Uprising and The Equaliser) I already have Blade Runner but still think that's a pretty good deal.
I am realy happy with your time measuring of loading disks. Nice to see how the menu works. I will buy the Panasonic DP-UB824 (the better one, other than the one you tested)
You will never need higher than 100Mbps networking. Native 4k UHD discs are typically 100Mbps bitrate, so anything you stream will guaranteed be below this.
Thank you for the comparison! One question as I'm new to standalone players. By connecting both the player and a PC via LAN cable would I be able to create a network between the 2 of them which would allow me to access from the player all the PC shared folders? The reason I'm asking is because I'm considering the UB450, but copying content from PC to flash drive and then inserting it in the player isn't an option given that UB450 only has USB2.0 port (major drawback in my opinion) and is unable to play high bitrate 4K content. So if I can't play content from PC via LAN cable, UB450 is not an option for me.
I managed to get hold of someone which owns the UB450 who has confirmed that you can play files via LAN from your PC. However, the player doesn't know how to use any external subtitles...
@@BizkitBoy86 Hi - yes, that's an issue with players in general. But the solution here is to merge video file with subtitles in the MKV container. You can do that with MKVToolNix.
@@TVguyDarko Indeed, that is one solution but unfortunately it's not viable in every scenario. For example, MKVToolNix is unable to keep Dolby Vision metadata intact when muxing to MKV. The only container known so far to be able to do that is MP4 and - wouldn't you know it - it doesn't allow muxing in any subs. This is actually the main reason I'm considering this player... to be able to play files with Dolby Vision layer on my GZ2000 because I have this amazing TV and I'm not using it to its full potential.
Nice review. The HDR to SDR down-conversion on the 820 is class leading in my humble opinion. Ok it’s not built (and doesn’t look as pretty) like the 9000 or even the 900. But it’s better performing than the 900 and IMO just as good as the 9000 when it comes to ‘video’. It’s absurdly good value for money for everything video. And an extremely important player if super sampling is still/also important to you.
@@TVguyDarko I purchased DP-UB820. My drawer opens and closes louder - i recorded -> ruclips.net/video/3fiNWZVOdj4/видео.html. The player is connected to a Philips OLED 804 TV. The fan is slightly audible, but can do it. Good UHD disc quality. The DVD quality is definitely better (although the Panasonic DMR-EH68 is still the best in this opinion) than on the SONY UBP-X700, where the image is blurred. PS. Cardboard boxes result in moving to a new home ;)
Yes, I also think it is better - especially if your TV supports Dolby Vision (Sony needs to be manually switched to Dolby Vision mode while Pany does that automatically).
@@TVguyDarko yes I just bought a 75 inch Samsung qled q60 so I think it should be good also just bought a nakamichi 7.2.4 sound bar ready for the shut down 🙂
If UB420 works well for you, no need to change it. UB450 supports Dolby Vision, but if you have a Samsung TV that doesn't support DV, then no point in getting it.
Its a $300 difference where I live so I go with the cheaper option if there is no difference in picture quality. And to be honest both remotes look pretty crappy and cheaply made.
If you're looking at the more budget end of the scale I'd suggest the Panasonic DP-UB420. 420, not the 450 we see here. It has many more of the same features of the 820, you can get almost the same level of picture settings control, including the HDR shortcut button and a Netflix shortcut button, as well as the same internet/streaming services and possibly even the same image processor. The only main thing it doesn't have is Dolby Vision support.
Well, one problem is that 420 is starting to be non existent anywhere. Next to impossible to buy. On the other hand, I could now buy 450 on 169€, it's in discount just now.
@@raikkusaatana Well, that's a shame - I don't know where you are but here in Aus it's still readily available, even in retail stores, for about the same price too.
I just bought the UB820 for my Sony oled. Unfortunately, Dolbyvision doesnt look 100% right on it. Fortunately, the HDR Optimisor is so damn good I really don't care. 'Standard' HDR looks so amazing I dont miss DV at all. 4k blu rays look even better than they did on my UB900. Stunning. Ps. I actually quite like the little rattle on the remote control. Makes finger drumming sound great...
Agree - I never use them. If only there were custom buttons except dedicated ones for Netflix and Internet apps - this way when you accidentally press them it is just frustrating.
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Thanks for the review, i bought a DP-UB450 for my Lg C1 and it has a very solid picture quality, i dont' need all that hdr tweaks from a player and i don't like disturbing displays or Apps i already have on my C1, yes the DP-UB450 has a cheap looking but it is much smaller and thin, almost invisible. Who cares when the picture quality is so high. I did not choose it for the price, i have no problems in buying the more expensive 820 but i dont pay for things i do not need. I was impressed with HDR Blu-Rays and the Full-Hd Blu-Ray upscaling is exceptional. I liked your review because in this comparison you documented the differences. Well done !
Thanks for a quality review. I went for the DP-UB450. Couldn't be happier about that choice.
Glad I could help!
Thanks very much for this extremely detailed & thorough review of both players...I'm gonna go with the 820 mainly due to the physical attributes...I like your style of presentation!
Thanks so much! You will be happy with the 820 - I am still using it and it works flawlessly.
This was an amazing breakdown. I was hesitant to go with Sony and didn't know the 450 existed for Dolby Vision. Thank you!!!
Thanks so much, I’m glad that my review helped you discover 450 model!
Have the ub450 and have always been happy. If you dont need the bells and whistles the ub450 is all you need for a budget player 4k. Picture quality wise and sound wise the ub450 is excellent.
Without DV/DA, without me.
@@RichyRich2607 Doesn't the 450 have Dolby Vision?
@@JayDamaso78 But no DA
@RichyRich2607 that's OK, I think I've damaged my hearing from years and years of DTS-HD lol
@@RichyRich2607The 450 plays Dolby Atmos - actually, it doesn’t depend on the player itself but the AV unit you use. The player sends bitstream and the AV amp decodes it (or not) into Dolby Atmos, DTS HD or other formats.
I bought the ub820 on black Friday. Surprised to find it had the latest firmware out of box. It performs exceptionally. But i don't like how if "vieralink" (cec) is enabled, it forces itself to be the main input when everything is turned on. I only have time to enjoy discs on the weekends. So the rest of the week, I'm forced to switch inputs upon powering up, or disabling CEC on the UB820, which forces me to use the UB820 remote, and do the remote juggling.
I choose ub450 with my oled803 and he do perfectly the job.
Beautiful video quality .
Got me the DP-UB820 a couple of months back. Like it a lot. Apart from great looking HDR pictures the upscaling is really phenomenal giving new life to my DVD collection.
I have a huge horror DVD collection upscaled DVD is hugely important. How is the UB820 holding up a year later?
@@alyx4436 I am still very pleased with my player. It has served me well. The only shortcoming is it's limited file support when used as a media player. But disc wise it's good. The HDR optimiser setting it shares with the top model DP-UB9000 is really good. You get the best tone mapping for your specific output device type.
Yeah but it can't remember where it left off on DVD's which is unacceptable. Also you can't change aspect ratio. How can't it get those two basics right?
@@Revolver1981 I haven't noticed any aspect ratio s being off. The only aspect rations needed with DVD-video should be 4:3 or 16:9 as far as I know. I am using a LG OLED and do my upscaling on the Panasonic player.
@@bitnisse7186 I have a couple of 4:3 ratio discs and this Panasonic can't change the aspect ratio to make it full screen. We have to put up with black bars on the left and right sides of the screen. That's an absolute disgrace. That's why I sent mine back for a refund. Also the irritating buffering circle on screen every time you load a disc and it makes a weird loud noise when loading a disc as well. It's unacceptable for a powerful player like this.
Great review!
Quick question, does the UB820 display a the time at front the when on standby? I've noticed that 4K Blu-Ray players don't seem to have that feature for some reason which is a shame as it is convenient for the living room. This will be the deciding factor between the UB450 and the UB820 because if the UB820 doesn't display the time when on standby it is not worth me spending the extra money when the UB450 otherwise meets my requirements.
Thanks
Hey Gurdit - unfortunately, UB820 does not have this function. It is really strange as it is a simple function and a very convenient one, but I doubt this will be added in future firmware updates.
@@TVguyDarko That's such a shame. I don't see why they don't have that feature anymore. Seems like the UB450 is the choice for me then. Thanks for the reply :)
🤦♂️ pffff…..
Great comparison. Wish I saw this a week before. I agonised between the two this Black Friday. However I probably still would have chosen the UB820 due to the annoying red light on the front of the UB450.
Thanks for watching! You made a good choice, UB820 is great!
Yeah the red light should be the standby light and it should turn green or blue when turned on. I also don't understand the annoying loud noises Panasonic players make when loading a disc.
Thanks
Thank you so much! Which UHD BD player have you chosen?
@@TVguyDarko Thanks for the reply. It all looks like the DP-UB450 makes sense. My only hesitation is I am also looking at purchasing a decent (~$500) sound system for our TV and media box (currently using builtin and $40 3.5mm computer speakers).
Would the Panasonic DP-UB450 limit my audio options? Running the audio through the HDMI out --> TV --> sound system....would this reduce quality a lot and not maximise the Bluray and sound system audio?
Thanks for any advice.
Thanks for the Review! I just bought a 820 and I’m super happy with it. What about the longevity of this player? Yours is still running after 4years?
Does 450 has subtitle shift in its options? Seem to be very difficult to find clear yes/no answer anywhere.
Very informative review , I've been looking at one of these two , most probably the ub820 . Thanks for the review .
With optical connection you can connect the 820 with a stereo amp.Does it play DVD +R DL?In my country there is Panasonic Blu-Ray Player DP-UB824EGK.Which is more new 820 or 824 i think.
Recently purchased this unit going to pair it with a Samsung QN900B which does not support dolby vision, should i turn off dolby vision on the 4k bluray player or leave it on. Any help would be great ? Thanks.. Phil
Hey Phillip - you can try both options and see which will give you better image quality. I think there will not be any difference if DV signal comes to the TV and TV does conversion to HDR10 or if the player does it.
I own 450 but I noticed when I connect ethernet wire my player does not turn on at all when I unhook the ethernet wire it turns on and works
Hi !
Thanks for your review. I have bought 4 weeks ago a Panasonic 55GZ1000 and the UB450. But the 2 Ultra HD Blu-Ray discs I have bought with Dolby Vision (Gladiator and Westworld season 2) are very dark. (Those in « simple » HDR (Arthur, Men in Black) are good). Is there anything I can do with the 450 ? You show a brightness menu at 4:57 that I can’t find on m’y 450. But you also say that the 820 have special settings for dark screens ? Thanks for your help :-) !
Hey Alan! First of all, thank you for your comment and mentioning that Gladiator is available in Dolby Vision - I've just purchased myself a copy :). I expect to receive GZ950 probably the end of next month so I will check out picture controls and so on. Have you tried different picture presets while TV is in Dolby Vision mode?
UB820 BD player has HDR Optimizer function that makes image brighter in HDR and you can tweak it more than UB450, but if you find HDR10 content OK and DV not OK, then probably something is not correct with picture settings. BTW - how is deep color output set on your player - is it on Auto (12bit priority)?
TV Calibration with Darko should I keep deep colour off if using SDR content? blue rays and Netflix etc? And keep it on Auto for HDR DVDs?
@@TVguyDarko Hi,
Thanks for your answer. Yes I've tried the 3 preset of Dolby Vision, and I have personalised ont to have more lights, but not enough.
Yes it is in auto 12 bit, is it good ?
Sneeky4kGaming , I’m not Darko but regular Blu-ray has 8 bit.
UHD Blu-ray can be 10 bit. However those can be in SDR or HDR.
I would turn off Deep Colour for regular discs and for 4K Ultra HD in SDR or HDR set it to auto.
Thank you for the comparison. Is the upscaling of standard Blu-Ray the same in terms of quality? Also, with the UB450 coming with a tiny remote control, do you know if a replacement UB820 remote control will work with the UB450? Many thanks
Hello - thank you for watching! Upscaling quality is the same if you do not want to further tweak the image - in that case UB820 has an advantage. I personally never use those extra options as I prefer “pure direct” approach and anyway TVs have plenty of controls if I want to do something. Related to the remote, I think it should work.
Hello, Great review!
By the way, can you please confirm whether the HCX processor in the 820 machine is *only* there for the Picture Optimizer function? (ie. if you're relying on your OLED TV to do your picture tweaking, then the player's HCX hardware is bypassed?
Any idea how Headphones sound when connected to a DAC that's paired with an Optical Cable and sent to the Panasonic 820 or 420's Optical port? I just want high quality 2 channel headphone lossles LPCM audio that gets loud. And is there any differences in 2 channel headphone audio quality between the 820 or 420? Thanks!
Since I have the LG G4, do I still need the advanced features of the 820?
Neither remote control has Audio and Subtitles buttons that let you cycle through audio tracks and subs. May not be a deal-breaker for some, but could be for others. All my other Blu-ray and DVD players have those buttons, and I can no-look press the button repeatedly to switch audio and sub. But with these two players, you have to press the Options button to enter a full-screen UI, press Up, Down, OK, etc., in order to choose a different audio track and sub. Even if you use a universal remote like Harmony, you cannot program this yourself, because the separate Audio and Subtitles functions simply don't exist in the original remote.
What's the difference between Ub820 and ub824? I'm trying to get ub820 but it's really difficult to find right now so I'm thinking about 824 it's going to be available on october 16 on amazon in some countries.
Hey, this is the same model, just a different designation for different markets.
Will this make my LG OLED appear brighter in dark scenes? Would the Netflix app on the player be better than the native Netflix app on the TV?
Which LG OLED do you own? New LG OLED TVs have many settings to control how bright the image is, so you can get quite good result with native apps.
@@TVguyDarko hey thanks for the reply. I did own the BX but it was terrible during dark scenes, I did play around with settings but it didn’t help. I’ve returned it for the CX but I’m still waiting for it to arrive. I don’t do any gaming, just watch movies streamed via Netflix and 4K movies I’ve downloaded.
Hey again, i have a denon 2300w receiver and a panasonic 820 4k player and a samsung 900b. What is the best way to connect all three to get lossless audio through my speakers and 4k to my tv, i know the 820 has two hdmi outputs one is audio and one is video , would i connect hdmi audio out to receiver and the hdmi video out straight to tv or would i use the passthough on the receiver with one hdmi cable to receiver, or is there another way. Any help would be great. Thanks again...Phil
I have the ub450 and I'm having issues with the home network - network contents playback
I have my Ethernet cable plugged in and in settings it says Ethernet is detected yet when I try to go into network contents playback it won't connect. It says please wait and then comes up with the message - cannot connect. Please confirm network connection and settings
Any ideas please?
Have 820 for my 120” screen, JVC 4K projector. JVC doesn’t play Dolby Vision but had theater mode HDR tone mapping that has gotten great review s . JVC national rep said factors in screen size, material, gain, distance & projector lamp age.
what type of AC plug come's with it i live in Canada and are oulets are not the same over in the UK. does it come with a north america plug or do i need to buy a AC Plug Converter. also does this player let you turn on subtitles
Buy the unit in USA/Canada store or website and you will get a proper plug. all BR players will support subtitles.
Hi... nice review !
Btw, i wanna ask about the audio out port, its only mention FRONT, SURROUND, SURROUND BACK, and CENTRE, how do we arrange left and right channel ?
Hello, I have "450" I would like to know "820" brings a significant improvement on an OLED TV?
(with OLED mode)
Hey - if would allow you to have more control in regards to HDR - highlight details preservation, fine-tuning luminance, colors and so on. If you are not happy with controls you currently have on the player and on the TV and if you find HDR picture too dark for example, then it would be a worthy upgrade.
@@MrHD no it does not thats false.same menu.the 850 has analog 7.1 outs thats it .
Hey, appreciate this is a year later but did you find the answer to this? I have an OLED and want to make the picture look brighter and wondering whether either the 450 or 820 would make any difference. Thanks
OLED tend to be darker anyway it’s one of the trade offs unfortunately, I don’t think the player will make a vast difference 🤔
No, especially if your TV is a Sony, which has the best processing on the market, superior to Panasonic
Hi I purchased 450 recently after seeing this great video, as he says both have same picture quality. I have a Atmos Soundbar. So do I connect HDMI cable to my OLED TV to the soundbar and then another connect HDMI cable from the Soundbar to 'audio out' hdmi socket on the 450 player, for better sound.
Hi Amitav - yes, you can do it like that - one HDMI cable to the TV and the other to the soundbar.
Great review, was wondering which one to take since it's a complete jungle in bluray player with some doing upscalling, some having native and in a range of price that's crazy (from price Z to Z x 6). Since having a brand new tv with dolby vision then I was looking for one player with that feature but having some negative feedback on Sony product.
Looks like the UB450 does to job properly, it might not be perfect but half the price of the UB820 that looks nicer and have advanced settings; not sure I will use it enough nor tweak anything so I will go for the UB450.
Thanks for all the tips !
Can’t find any other videos comparing these players, but I’ve heard the upscaling for the 450 is worse than the 820’s? Is there any chance you could show us how DVDs and regular Blu Rays look when upscaled on both of these?
Same I want to see it
There is no visual difference and if you have a Sony TV, use that upscaler, it blows away the Panasonic!
can i connect the DP-UB450 player to my computer monitor?
and if i can will it have sound? i have a speaker and headphones connected to my computer, so if i can connect the player into my monitor could i hear the movies from my speaker/headphones?
thanks.
Can you connect to your computer’s monitor ? Yes via HDMI (video out), and the sounds... only if you have speaker that has HDMI audio in port (then you can use HDMI audio out in UB450)
@@upinztube thanks
Will there by any issues importing this to the USA? The manual states 12v adapter 110-220v. I'd rather save some money and skip the UB820
Is there a noticable difference PQ and AQ-wise between the 450 and the 820? I watch my movies on an LG OLED55C27 and I do not use any special speakers, just the ones on the TV.
No, there is no noticeable difference in those aspects.
@@TVguyDarko thank you for your reply. I just wondered because I thought there were blown-out highlight in the comparison (the back window) @ 4:30
Great review 👍
Small/big technical question:
I have a tv samsung qe75q90r that is not dolby vision, only hdr10.
If I buy a 4k dolby vision bluray player that decodes these metadovers, would I have the equivalent of dolby vision on my TV?
In a way it would be the reader who will send the contrasting image dynamically to the TV that will only display it.
Thank you
For a Dolby Vision experience, the player as well as the TV must support Dolby Vision format.
Zdravo Darko!
Interesuje me da li ub450 prepoznaje titl sa filma na usb?
Ne bih da kupim blu ray a da ne čita titlove sa rezanih filmova ili fleške.
Is the 450 a Bluray 4K UHD player because on no advertising is that title used - it states in specifications '4K/HD' which could mean 4k-upscaling?
Yes, it is a 4K UHD BD player as I was playing UHD BD discs on it. amzn.to/3y9Uz81
Are you absolutely sure that it is not just upscaling everything to 4K, as opposed to being native (recently borrowed word!) and is not in fact playing without adjustments made to videos, at 2k? You see, it is only the title (not specifications) showing on Amazon that states the term 4K UHD (with that specific wording), whereas on all other retail sites the wording reads as '4K/HD'.
Putting a 4K UHD disk into a 1080P Blu-ray player will only give you a disk error, it will not play.
Hvala na testu.
Imam sony x700 ali svaki duži film zamrzava u kasnijem periodu filma u nekom momentu. Sutra ću da ga reklamiram i tražim UB450 samo mi je frka da li će prihvatiti reklamaciju. Da li si čuo o tom problemu na sony-ju? Ili sonijima uopšte?
Cene u SRB nisu baš normalne. 820 je 500e a 450 malo više od 200.
Very concise and thorough review. A lot of good information.
Thanks!
Does the 450 also have the OLED setting, which the 820 has?
no
@@xskip i know now because I have the 450 lol
Be easier contacting Panasonic with technical questions like this
Thanks for this review. Given that current TVs are so good and the level of picture adjustments are significant, it would seem spending more on the 820 would be pointless.
Glad it was helpful!
Agree and specially a newer Sony TV
Hi great comparison where did you purchase your ub820 from please
Hey Ron - thanks for watching! I've bought it from an eBay seller located in the UK. Actually that is the second I've bought since the first one had issue playing the discs so I returned it.
Very nice review!👍
I'm using the UB-450 only as secondary setup and it works just fine. One thing that does annoy me to no end is that I can't control the UB-450 player with my TV remote from Philips. Even when the CEC is enabled and EasyLink on the Phillips TV.
Did you encounter the same problem, when testing these units?
Current setups are:
Living - Video: Sony 55XG9505, Audio: Sonos Beam Gen 2, Sub Gen 3, Player: Sony X800M2, Streambox: Apple TV
Mancave - Video: Philips 43PUS8546, Audio: Sonos Beam Gen 2, Player: Panasonic UB450, Streambox: Apple TV
That must be something to do with Phillips. My Samsung TV remote controls the UB450 very well.
@@Revolver1981 thanks for letting me know! 👌
Hi! Does the UB450 or 820 support the exFAT file system for USBs?
Thanks for the in-depth review!
Glad it was helpful!
Is the UB 450 the same as the UB 420 in Canada and the U.S ?
UB420 does not support Dolby Vision ?
UB420 and UB450 are different models - UB450 is newer and it supports both HDR10+ and DV.
@@TVguyDarko can't seem to find it in Canada?
Dear Darko, can you please tell me, if any of those 2 Panasonic players can play (via USB or BD-R disk) web-dl files with DD Plus audio. I have Panasonic and Sony UHD players, both play video, but it says "audio format unsupported". I am desperately looking for UHD player with this capability. Thank you and all the best!!
I have an LG OLED55B9S and I'm looking for a good player for 200€ or less (a little more is possible but not too much).
I have seen Sony X700 but the fact that DV activation is not automatic is a no for me.
I was going for the LG UBK90 but I've read some issues.
Is the Panasonic UB450 better than those? Is there another better choice?
I'm going to use it only for discs, I have every streaming service built-in my TV, and Plex is also there, so I really don't need all the USB, photo etc. things, it's just to watch my blu-ray. (At first I thought i'd use the PS5 but it seems it won't have Dolby Vision for 4K Blu-Rays...)
Any update?
It's a pain in the ass on the Sony, I have both a ub820 and x800m2.. BUT picture quality is better/cleaner on the Sony player
Thanks for the helpful video! I'm trying to decide between this and the Sony UPB-X700 and was hoping someone might be able to answer a few questions:
- Does this player support DTS:X? And does it automatically choose between this / Dolby Atmos depending on the disc (and same question for Dolby Vision / HDR10)?
- If yes, then if I connect via HDMI to a soundbar (LG SL10YG) which connects to the TV (LG C9) will those still be automatically selected?
- Preference between the two players?
Apologies for the picky questions, just don't want to regret my purchase!
Hi Giles! Thanks for watching!
Panasonic UHD BD players do support DTS:X and they will automatically switch to Dolby Vision based on content metadata. SL10YG seems to be able to pass through Dolby Vision content, but at max 24 Hz which is perfectly fine for movies - www.reddit.com/r/Soundbars/comments/evtstm/lg_sl10yg_dolby_vision_passthrough/
I own DP-UB820 and except for archaic menus, I like it very much.
I just switched from the UBP-X700 to a region-free modded UB820 (the UB450 isn't available here in the U.S.), and I totally agree. All Sony 4K players with Dolby Vision require manually turning it on & off in the settings to avoid unwanted DV processing on non-DV discs; nearly all other 4K players with DV will activate it only as needed so long as DV is on in the settings. (Same for HDR10+; AFAIK Pannys from the UB450 up are the *only* players that support both DV & HDR10+. Panasonic even claims to support HLG on discs though I thought that was strictly for broadcasting, cable, etc.; I don't know of any discs with HLG.) And *any* Blu-ray player (regular or 4K) that can bitstream DTS-HD Master Audio (the vast majority of them) can also bitstream DTS:X, which is just DTS-HD MA with metadata. (Same for Atmos on discs which is just TrueHD with metadata.)
Hi, can you explain or give your's calibration settings for this ub820 ? Thanks
Hi Francesco - in general I keep things at automatic. You should check bit depth output - will 10-bit or 12-bit give better result.
Hi all and greetings from Finland. Great videos. I am struggling with 4K picture quality from discs. Streaming is ok. I have Samsung 58" Q60T and UB450. Is there any harm if I leave 4K (50/60p) output to max 4:4:4? Even my tv I assume is not cabable for those? Same goes for that deep colour setup, is it ok to leave max 12bit? I have noticed if I leave 24p output off, picturce quality suffers, with automatic its ok. My problems have been, that 4k quality from 4k uhd discs are not near as good than from RUclips, Netflix etc. Difference between 4K UHD disc and regular blu-ray is very small if there is at all difference. Sry my poor English. Hope you can help.
Hey, have you solved this problem? I'm thinking of getting the ub450.
@@giovannizanocco7982 Basically yes and no. :) I bought better TV. I have two players side by side atm. Panasonic and Sony UBP-x800m2. Can't say there is much difference between picture quality, but what makes Sony better is software and options. Its easier to use. Pana has Dolby Vision, but my TV is Samsung so no use with that. Both are good players, but daily usage I usually go with Sony. My TV was 58" Q60T and atm I have 75" Q90T. Biggest difference is there.
@@Raidallinen76 Thank you! I went with the Panasonic. I hope I won't regret it
@@giovannizanocco7982 How much it was?
@@Raidallinen76 150 euros with BF sale
Hi there, i jus bought a Samsung 65q90r with q80r atmos soundbar, trying to decide between the ub450 or ub820? Would i need the hcx optimizer since the panel on the q90r is so good as it is? Ub450 seems a more dedictaed atmos system. Any help is much appreciated
Sorry to jump on, I have a Sony oled and the HDR Optimisor has definitely made 4k blu rays look better, even on a top end TV like ours. The player's upscaling on standard blu rays is also improved. My previous player was a UB900, which was a really, really good player anyway.
Bottom line is, this will make your physical media look a little bit better. Great bit of kit..
Thanks very much for the reply. I also started looking at ub420 which seems to have everything however only one website sells it and not sure they are legit. Still undecided at the moment lol but leaning more to the 820.
Pretty sure the 420 and 820 also do not play Atmos from Ripped disks files.
This Video Helped Me A Lot You Are Amazing I'm In Professional Stuff Too But I Want To Ask You Something I Want To Buy The Panasonic Ub820 But Right Now Exist The UB824 Too So I Don't Know Which One Is Actually Better You Can Help Me Please?
By The Way Keep Up With The Hard Work You Are Incredible In Your Job Big Love From Greece🧡
Hello Chris! Thanks for your comment! UB824 is the same model, just different model number for different markets. I hope it will bring you a lot of pleasure!
@@TVguyDarko Hello Darko Your Welcome And Oh Okay Thank You Very Much For Your Help I Appreciate It And Thank You Very Much I Wish It Too By The Way I'm Big Fan Of Yours🧡
If these ones are regionfree do you change The region with The controller? Or does it change by it self does anyone know? Im from sweden and have alot of reg 1 on dvd and reg a on blu ray i cant play yet.
By the Remote, but if its says Region Band you want Region Free it will play everything inc old dvds, try tps or multiregionmagic or 220electronics, the last one is in America and if you have questions you can email them, very efficient, the other 2 are UK Based, unless you fancy a Reavon from France .
Is it ub450 supports Dolby atmos in Netflix app? Kindly let me know
no app support
Is the "HDR Optimizer" available only on UB820 or is implemented in the same way on the UB450 ?
HDR Optimizer is only available on UB820.
@@TVguyDarko hi
Do you need HDR optimizer?
@@TVguyDarko But it comes on the UB420 with same remote as the 450 for same price @ $150 now... but no Dolby Vision in one set of specs and several threads on it that may have read the same spec sheet I found.... you replied back Shep Shepard that 420 supports Dolby Vision.... very confusing as seems like the 450 is lower quality unit than the 420 without HCX processor that comes in the 820 and 9000.??
Most high end TV's have better tone mapping and upscaling then the Panasonic players
Is it worth upgrading from ub450 to ub820? I have a 58gx800 TV. Use 4k discs and blu rays. Will I see any upgrade in normal blu rays? Thanks
I don't think it is a worthy upgrade. UB450 is really excellent for normal Blu-rays.
@@TVguyDarko thank you kindly, any recommendations on a soundbar or 5.1?
@@TVguyDarko I am now getting more 4k uhd discs, what are the benefits of the ub820?
I am a bit late in the game, but thanks for the review.. seems the UB450 is the way to go for the Ultra BR disks for the price and resulting picture at that price. Wanted to get HDR+ and Dolby Vision support and both players will do that..
Thanks for watching and commenting! Yes, UB450 remains best buy if you need both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision support. If only HDR10/10+ is needed, there is an even cheaper model from Panasonic DP-UB150.
@@TVguyDarko thanks. I will look into that other model.
Hello, Did you succes to read the dolby nature fury lossless file with the bluray player UB820 and UB450 ? Thanks for your answer it's very important
I got my UB450 a couple of days ago from John Lewis online store in the UK for £179, and get a longer guarantee as a result. I’m happy with it overall. It is cheap, light and nasty feeling, but it works well and plays all HDR formats; HLG, HDR10, HDR10+ and Dolby Vision. I have a Samsung QN90A so no Dolby Vision for me, but I have a couple of HDR10+ discs including American Gangster, which is also full screen (no black bars) and looks amazing. Unlike most reviews including this one, my UB450 red LED is only on when it is switched on. When it is switched off, the red LED goes out.
Thanks for sharing your experience! UB450 still remains a great all-in-one disc player - I see Panasonic also has DP-UB150EG-K - which currently goes for 161 euro in Croatia and offers HCX picture processor but no Dolby Vision.
@@TVguyDarko does the UB450 have the HCX processor? I thought that was only on the higher end models.
@@MyHolidayArchiveno, the 820 and above have HCX. But it seems like there’s no significant difference that you can spot.
What's the diff between the 420 and 450?
420 no dolby vision
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HD DVD VARDIA RD-1A ???😊
The 450 EK is smaller i like that, may get the multi-region version, dont like the plastic look of the UB820 EK
so the PQ is the same ?
Yes - UB820 has more options to adjust it, but in general default options are enough.
Thank you for review.
Great review as always. I just bought the 450 on zoom for 180 with 5 free UHD films (Blackkklansman, Skyscraper, Blade Runner 2049, Pacific Rim: Uprising and The Equaliser) I already have Blade Runner but still think that's a pretty good deal.
Awesome deal!
I am realy happy with your time measuring of loading disks. Nice to see how the menu works. I will buy the Panasonic DP-UB824 (the better one, other than the one you tested)
Great to hear!
Dutch model
Picked up the UB-450 from the Panasonic outlet on eBay for £90. Happy days.
Sweet deal!
Guys, does the player has 1Gb LAN? or just 100Mb..thanks
100Base-TX (100 Mbit) only.
@@TVguyDarko thanks
You will never need higher than 100Mbps networking. Native 4k UHD discs are typically 100Mbps bitrate, so anything you stream will guaranteed be below this.
Great review 👍
Thanks!
Dobre porównanie 👍
Hvala!
So o Netflix and other streaming services to 450? Sad
Thank you for the comparison!
One question as I'm new to standalone players. By connecting both the player and a PC via LAN cable would I be able to create a network between the 2 of them which would allow me to access from the player all the PC shared folders?
The reason I'm asking is because I'm considering the UB450, but copying content from PC to flash drive and then inserting it in the player isn't an option given that UB450 only has USB2.0 port (major drawback in my opinion) and is unable to play high bitrate 4K content.
So if I can't play content from PC via LAN cable, UB450 is not an option for me.
I managed to get hold of someone which owns the UB450 who has confirmed that you can play files via LAN from your PC.
However, the player doesn't know how to use any external subtitles...
@@BizkitBoy86 Hi - yes, that's an issue with players in general. But the solution here is to merge video file with subtitles in the MKV container. You can do that with MKVToolNix.
@@TVguyDarko Indeed, that is one solution but unfortunately it's not viable in every scenario.
For example, MKVToolNix is unable to keep Dolby Vision metadata intact when muxing to MKV.
The only container known so far to be able to do that is MP4 and - wouldn't you know it - it doesn't allow muxing in any subs.
This is actually the main reason I'm considering this player... to be able to play files with Dolby Vision layer on my GZ2000 because I have this amazing TV and I'm not using it to its full potential.
Nice review. The HDR to SDR down-conversion on the 820 is class leading in my humble opinion. Ok it’s not built (and doesn’t look as pretty) like the 9000 or even the 900. But it’s better performing than the 900 and IMO just as good as the 9000 when it comes to ‘video’.
It’s absurdly good value for money for everything video. And an extremely important player if super sampling is still/also important to you.
Agree and thanks for the comment, especially for HDR to SDR conversion that I see more and more people asking about.
Sony players have a better picture!
Woow Drive volume / quiet test - Thanks! I am looking for such tests. PS. Is the mounted fan quiet?
Thanks! I would say yes - I can't hear it when watching movies.
@@TVguyDarko I purchased DP-UB820. My drawer opens and closes louder - i recorded -> ruclips.net/video/3fiNWZVOdj4/видео.html. The player is connected to a Philips OLED 804 TV. The fan is slightly audible, but can do it. Good UHD disc quality. The DVD quality is definitely better (although the Panasonic DMR-EH68 is still the best in this opinion) than on the SONY UBP-X700, where the image is blurred.
PS. Cardboard boxes result in moving to a new home ;)
I bought the UB450 in April so it's been available for a while now
True, but the availability was limited and Panasonic released info about it only in July. How do you like the player so far?
Great review. New sub
Thanks for the sub!
Thnak you for the infos!
My pleasure!
Thanks for the video I now know ub-420 is the player for me almost went with a sony x800 but after digging I think this one is better
Yes, I also think it is better - especially if your TV supports Dolby Vision (Sony needs to be manually switched to Dolby Vision mode while Pany does that automatically).
@@TVguyDarko yes I just bought a 75 inch Samsung qled q60 so I think it should be good also just bought a nakamichi 7.2.4 sound bar ready for the shut down 🙂
@@TVguyDarko The Sony though has better picture quaity than either pannies!
I have the DP-UB420, I need the 450? mmm, the DP-UB420 let me watch many region B discs.
If UB420 works well for you, no need to change it. UB450 supports Dolby Vision, but if you have a Samsung TV that doesn't support DV, then no point in getting it.
I will actually prefer the 450
Remote. That useless Netflix button is too close to the direction keys
Merci pour ce test !
You're welcome!
Its a $300 difference where I live so I go with the cheaper option if there is no difference in picture quality. And to be honest both remotes look pretty crappy and cheaply made.
Hello ! Made in China ?
I have the 820, it’s the best out there at the moment.
I think the best out there is the 9000
the best is the 9000 for sure.
If you're looking at the more budget end of the scale I'd suggest the Panasonic DP-UB420. 420, not the 450 we see here. It has many more of the same features of the 820, you can get almost the same level of picture settings control, including the HDR shortcut button and a Netflix shortcut button, as well as the same internet/streaming services and possibly even the same image processor. The only main thing it doesn't have is Dolby Vision support.
Well, one problem is that 420 is starting to be non existent anywhere. Next to impossible to buy. On the other hand, I could now buy 450 on 169€, it's in discount just now.
@@raikkusaatana Well, that's a shame - I don't know where you are but here in Aus it's still readily available, even in retail stores, for about the same price too.
No Dolby Vision is a deal breaker. Especially sucks that it's not available in the USA. I'm highly considering importing the 450.
Sorry but as an LG C1 owner Dolby Vision is a must.
the 420 is antiquated lol
I just bought the UB820 for my Sony oled. Unfortunately, Dolbyvision doesnt look 100% right on it. Fortunately, the HDR Optimisor is so damn good I really don't care. 'Standard' HDR looks so amazing I dont miss DV at all.
4k blu rays look even better than they did on my UB900. Stunning.
Ps. I actually quite like the little rattle on the remote control. Makes finger drumming sound great...
Dolby Vision looks like s*** on Sony OLED TVs. Especially the a8G and any TV that doesn't have the newest ultimate processor.
@@jimmyers1978 Dolby Vision is awesome on my Sony x90l
If only the 450 was sold in the US :(
You can order it online from EU.
Its at best buy now! SALE $149.99
Just ordered a used UB450 for 100€, think thats an ok place. Dont care about design and connectivity
That's a great price, hope everything works well.
I would pick a player that is just that, a bluray/dvd player. Not one with all these apps with netflix and prime shit!
Agree - I never use them. If only there were custom buttons except dedicated ones for Netflix and Internet apps - this way when you accidentally press them it is just frustrating.
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Big thanks!
save and get the Panasonic DP-UB820. you will be happier
820 alsow got better dac @ 32bit so better for home cinema
Thanks Pimpin’
Nice..
820 for me!