the polanski petition: what is it, who signed it, and why?
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- Опубликовано: 22 апр 2022
- discussing the roman polanski petition, its inception, peers who signed it, and its impact on hollywood.
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Natalie Portman - Buzzfeed - www.vice.com/en/article/evm59...
Roman Polanski - Wikipedia - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_P...
Over 100 In Film Community Sign Polanski Petition - Indiewirewww.indiewire.com/2009/09/ove...
Actors Walk Out After Roman Polanski Wins Best Director At France’s Oscars - NYT - www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/mo...
Decade of decadence: Nicholson, Polanski, and Hollywood in the Seventies - Independent - www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...
The story of Roman Polanski’s infamous escape from a sexual abuse prison sentence - Far Out Magazine - faroutmagazine.co.uk/roman-po...
Petition for Roman Polanski Signatories - ALTFG - www.altfg.com/film/petition-f...
Polanski has served his time and must be freed - Independent - www.independent.co.uk/voices/...
Polanski The Predator - The Smoking Gun - www.thesmokinggun.com/file/ro... 
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That clip of QT on Stern defending Polanski is a damning piece of audio. His dismissal of the victim as a "13 year old party girl" had extremely disturbing implications.
Yes because so many who support him mess with children as well
EXTREMELY
I am happy to see that five years ago he came to his senses and now agrees he was wrong to say those things defending Polanski. But there are still so many talented people who continue to be in that camp
It will be interesting to know the list of VIPs on Epstein's Island. Wouldn't be surprised if Polanski was there along with other elites. After all he directed "the ninth gate" a film that depicts orgies and occultic rituals.
There's really no coming back from a statement like that when you're already a wealthy successful adult. Quinton straight up said that people who are 3 years away from qualifying for a drivers license, less than 2 years into puberty, and that the MSRP says are too young to even watch his movies without adult supervision just unironically said that it's OK to fuck these little girls if they're "asking for it".
A lot of people just felt sorry for him losing his wife and unborn baby so horrifically and gave him a pass. Your past pain doesn’t serve as an excuse to hurt others, thiught
She was in the process of divorcing him at the time, and it was pretty well known that he treated her very badly.
@@kellidinit3725 Where did you get that from? I've watched a couple of Documentaries and read his autobiography and can't find any mention of that anywhere. Could you point me towards your sources, please.
You mean like Asia Argento after she too was a victim, but then slept with a minor Jimmy Bennett...and even paid him hush money? Samantha Geimer requested the charges be dropped.....so if Polanski had paid her enough money besides, like Argento, it would be fine? I am no fan of Polanski but the hypocrisy and double standards of "justice" and right and wrong today are unbearable.
@@David-mg1yjJay Sebring’s nephew made a documentary about Jay a few years ago. At the end, he showed proof from a lawyer that Sharon was preparing for a divorce
"Consensual"
"Champagne and quallude."
He admitted to one and there are plenty of others who came out with similar stories. It is just gross that people act like he was the victim.
Yep found out Ford and Spielberg supported him and I no longer support these dirtbags Tarantino shows he likely messes with children as well. Crazy this needs to get out
for sure!!!!!!!! And when he got an Acaemy Award, Nicholson and Streep gave him a standing ovation. He lived his life happy and free in France. Got the opportinuty to make movies and live his life. He should have had his sorry ass thrown into jail for life.
Growing up a holocaust survivor & having your heavily pregnant wife & friends massacred will definitely do some damage to a person - but it's no excuse. His most famous movie (Chinatown) is about incest & pedophilia - he knew what he was did was wrong.
he was a victim. you are confusing it. not the victim but a victim.
🤢
I shudder to think how many children have been abused in this industry - and how many women have been violated, too. The fact this thing still has respect sickens me!
Not just women
There’s been men that’s been violated in boys that’s been violated to do you research it’s just they don’t come forward as much because they’re embarrassed but yeah they have. There’s been a few that came forward.
What horrifies me the most about Polanski is that Samantha Galley wasn't the first underage girl he assaulted, and she wasn't the last. Too many people excuse him because they think it was an isolated incident. As if assaulting one child wasn't horrible enough this creep has left a trail of victims behind him.
where can I read about the other victims?
The lead actress from The Golden Child and Pirates made a video about Polanski.
@@DS-ou9rqon wiki although some may have been fake.
Emma Thompson originally signed the petition but later asked for her name to be removed after a conversation with 19-year-old college student and activist Caitlin Hayward-Tapp.
Amber heard is not a predator. Bet Johnny would be mad if they hit him with that
Cause she didn't do terrible things on the street.
I don't understand why we just accept celebrities like Tarantino who straight up said that having sex with a minor isn't wrong, it's just illegal. I'm sorry but just saying "yeah I just wasn't educated back when I said that" after already making it in Hollywood is disingenuous at the very best.
No, Quinton. That's not good enough. I need to see you write a 500-word essay on exactly why you think it's now wrong to fuck kids when you didn't think that before. Anyone who says that, I immediately think they probably have an underage 'body count" themselves that they don't ever talk about.
It's Quentin 😂 but I like it better your way
“We won because Roman won” if that doesn’t sound like a cult to u then idk what to tell u
The part with Martin Scorsese and Michael Mann hurt me the most since those were two of my favorite directors. I'm also having second thoughts about supporting Johnny Depp while Amber Heard was ruining his life.
Amber heard probably isn’t a great person, but Johnny Depp is an alcoholic loser.
Wait wait wait, what does this have to do with Depp?
@@rockinresurrection6542 Were you even watching this video?
Johnny Depp was named as one of the celebrities that signed the petition to bail out Roman Polanski.
@@rockinresurrection6542 There is also a video of him in a press conference defending Polanski. Just search it on RUclips
Abuse survivors who support abusers aren’t new. You can be against abuse and still not hold any exceptions for abuse supporters no matter their background.
I lived in Paris in 2009 when the Polanski brouhaha was happening, having been sent to work in the French office of my company. A lot of people who were defending Polanski simply had the facts wrong. They would say the girl was 16 or 17 and that Polanski fled the US to avoid an unfair trial. They were surprised when i told them that the girl was 13 and that Polanski had pled guilty.
He pleaded guilty for time served. The judge changed that. So technically it was unfair.
It's a shame to hear that some of the "support," if you want to call it that, was predicated on false information about the case. If only people had known the facts, Polanski maybe would have been held accountable. Thanks for the comment!
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan - Depends if it is in the realms of the law for the judge to change it. Tell me this, what punishment do you think somebody who rapes a 13 year old child should get? Please answer that specific statement before arguing with the premise (if you don't agree). It seems to me the judge should be applauded for trying to get true justice against a self confessed child rapist.
That Johnny Depp defense was pretty dumb.
why is that?
@@donchapo187well, you know what they say, birds of a feather flock together
And this point, your kid would be safer with the mafia than Hollywood
The idea that Roman Polanski was going to have a photo session with a teenager is a ruse. It was Polanski simply creating an opportunity to have an extended time alone with this teenager. And I am having a very hard time believing that the mother was this naive and gullible. The mother should have been investigated. When Polanski ran to Europe the first thing he did was have a new fifteen-year-old girlfriend Natasha Kinski. He made her very successful as an actress.
The ending to this essay was truly chilling. The piano playing in the background for Polanski winning the Academy Award for The Pianist, sounding ominous and horrifying. Amazing video brother. I am dumbstruck at the number of artists that supported him. Johnny Depp?! And considering the case that just ended where he was a victim of abuse. Quentin Tarantino?! It's just too sickening what this kind of treatment makes someone infallible, no way that's right and the people who've supported him are being ignorant.
Is not easy with his background, a survivor of the Holocaust where Adolf Hitler killed his family and survivor of the Manson family where the hippies of Charles Manson killed his family, so are we gonna do the same with Emanuelle Seigner and Morgane Polanski for Matan Uziel?
@@abrahamlupis9354 that doesn't make what Polanski's done alright, nor does it excuse him. He has to face the consequences for his actions, think if it was your underage child that had to go through being sexually violated by an adult of this stature. We're just talking about a full trial which the man is clearly evading. There's no responsibility to be borne about this by his children, and no one is talking about subjecting them to anything like what you're trying to imply.
@@abrahamlupis9354 maybe that H guy was correct about those J people. I mean, they all control Hollywood and they all support Polanski
He directed rosemary’s baby it’s about rape
Thank you so much
It’s not ambitious, he admits everything, he needs to be in jail.
Them names on that list are most likely on the Epstein list also.
They are probably are one in the same just the Epstein list is much much bigger. This list was just the people willing to say im untouchable ill sign for a kid toucher. Nothing will happen to me
All kid toucher's should have their face tattooed with what their crime was in big bold letters
A 13-year old minor child doesn't have the legal right to agree to have sex with anyone especially an older adult...Polanski's attempt to justify the act was specious hence his legal troubles.....
Exactly, a 13 year girl who is 'up' for sex with old men, has most likely had a toxic childhood be it physical, emotional, sexual abuse or neglect. They are by definition vulnerable and do not have the mental capacity to consent to sex.
@@artspooner citation, please.
@@bostonteapartycrasher Try looking up any child safeguarding course. You ought to be careful as your questions seems to be one that a pedophile would ask.
In interview Polanski didn't seem to believe that he had done anything wrong. I wonder what his morals are regarding the age of consent. Quentin Tarantino did try to defend Polanski on the Howard Stern show - Stern pointed out that he has two daughters around that age and that they are not mentally capable of consenting to sex. He further said to Tarantino 'what if it was your daughter - you would want to beat the shit out of him.' Polanski himself had a daughter - if he had discovered that at age 13 she had had sex with a 45 year old, would he have been ok with that? Somehow I doubt it. I believe that he has to live with the shadow of what he did hanging over him. Polanski said that all men want to f**k young girls - that is girls who have not fully developed into adults. For anyone to wish to do this I believe have something amiss in their minds. I did enjoy Tess Of The D'Urbervilles but I generally don't like his movies. They tend to be dark and involve abuse of women. There is a book about Sharon Tate in which it is claimed he was abusive towards her. Everything about him seems to indicate that he doesn't see women as equals and he believes that because he is an acclaimed director that different rules apply to him. I have just been watching an interview with Polanski in which he describes his formative years and he said that he was 'just 12' when he was told that his mother had died in the concentration camp and was not coming back. Clearly he regards 'just 12' as being a child. The girl he drugged and raped was just 13 - almost 14 when he did so. Not much older than 'just 12'. ruclips.net/video/xaF7WxdUdns/видео.html
Very good points. I just can't believe how Hollywood could be so far up their own backside that they didn't see this for what this was, a rape of a 13 year old girl by an adult. So unbelievable. How the f was he allowed to make a film like The Pianist with US backing and Hollywood actors, and then to be nominated for an aaOscar, win it and then get a standing ovation (the fact he wasn't there would have been a constant reminder to all of Hollywood of what he had done. At 90 he is going to die soon, but because of the support of these people, I don't think he will ever truly repent and I suspect he has never seen any problem with it (as you say, women or 13 year old party girls are just objects in his life).
Would Johnny Depp leave Polanski alone with his 13 year old daughter and be ok with him taking pictures of her topless?
Probably
HELL NO!!!
This should have more views!! Thank you for this, keep making stuff!
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed!
You did a great job doing this video! Hope more people see it.
Thank you!
Well done video and message. This needs more views.
thank you!
Bret rattner shouldnt be surprising either
This is a very well made video. This deserves more views.
thank you, this means a lot :)
This was a fantastic, informative video. Perfectly answered my questions about it. I hope you make more videos in the future
Thank you! More videos are to come :)
The woman in white behind rob marshall was disgusted
The way this is set up for the ending is most OUTSTANDING!! it really put chills down my spine.
This list is painful.
Man you deserve much more viewes
Great and informational video!
Thank you!!
I'm surprisingly impressed with Howard Stern. He really spoke up powerfully against Polanski's act.
I'm commenting because I want this video to be seen by more people and leaving this comment will hopefully further spread this video into RUclips's algorithms.
I did also want to add that actresses Sigourney Weaver and Meryl Streep both have publicly supported Polanski, and there are photos of Harrison Ford smiling with Polanski when he delivered the Oscar.
The whole situation is a very depressing thing but it's important people are aware of it so again, I thank you for making this video.
SIGOURNEY??? NOOOO ):
@@nothanksplease Sorry but it's true
Thank you so much for the support!!
@@GenreLeap Thank you for making the video.
He deserves jail.
he deserves 0 oxygen
AMERICAN CULTURE??? TRY GLOBAL. At least the US tried to do something. European countries like France kept him safe!
new subscriber but I admired the way you explained it, I hope you take this channel to the next level
Thank you!!
Hey. Thanks for making this video. It was interesting to watch. Such a shame the line between right and wrong is often unstable and gets manipulated. One day things will change I hope!
Thankfully the change has been happening over the last decade or so. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found it informative, thank you for watching!
you gained a subscriber for that ending
Amazing video. I was thinking about making something similar, given how (in my opinion) people don't talk about this topic NEARLY enough. Hopefully this reaches more people who care about film.
Thank you! I made this video for that express purpose - I saw a lack of easily accessible places online frequented by cinephiles that had all the information of this case in one convenient post/video. I'm glad you thought this video did a good job of compiling the facts and making it easily findable, thanks again!!
Just found this hidden gem upload again!!
Nicely done
did a great job on this video
I first heard of the petition precisely 15 minutes ago. I’m in shock.
The key scenes in Once Upon A Time In Hollywood that film are the Steve McQueen speech when he explains that Sharon specifically got him over to Hollywood without having any romantic involvement with him, and the one where Manson turns up to the house to find Terry has moved. You can try and destroy him all you want, but we all know what Hollywood are.
great video
Funny how your professional success is a valid excuse for horrible crimes. Look at Norman Mailer. He stabbed his wife twice at a party and suffered no legal or social consequences.
It is shocking to me jowls may people defended him. It wasn't until two years ago that I read the account of what happened and it still makes me mad. I don't support cancel culture in most instances but rape of a 13 tear old even if consensual certainly is a reason to cancel. If the law won't punish then perhaps canceling them as a culture is the only recourse in situations like this.
unrelated, but i love the background music! michael cera should make more folky instrumental music
I'm glad someone caught that :) I've been hoping for more Michael Cera music for years, who knows what the future holds!
Duh. He was the adult in this situation. He made a conscious voluntary decision and choice to abuse a very minor minor. He must face the consequences of that decision. Not her…..double duh 😮
Johnny you have a young daughter would you let her be alone with hem
Roman Polanski never dated Angelica Hudson. The crime and R happened at Hudsons and Jack Nicholson's home. Jack and Roman were friends.
I have hard time believing that Nicholson knew nothing
Whoever signed the petition was definitely on the Epstein List as well." 🏌🏾♂️
Are you on twitter?
Did I miss something regarding John Landis???
I wondered that. Not that John Landis is an innocent (his acts led to the deaths of two children), but he might have been confused with his sex predator son. What a legacy.
Words fail me to describe this blind cruelty of this Polański's lynch mob. But you can see it at work at its finest everywhere on the internet.
I think a lot of people think because he could have been killed in the holocaust that he must be good and it all must be lies or explainable. He's not someone like Otto Frank. More people need to see that.
he was affected
@@abrahamlupis9354 What do you mean?
@@lingeringquestions519 by Adolf Hitler, he survived but his soul was corrupted by his family being killed
@@abrahamlupis9354 that's war propaganda, non of that happened. Look up how cremation works, there should be evidence when there is none.
Polanski suffered numerous horrific losses and atrocities but that does not excuse his behavior. Every predator has a trauma story they use for a pass. But for every one of these predators there are many more people who suffered the same or worse but held on to their decency.
Watch the film "Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired." Polanski's alleged victim from 1977, years later refuted the whole rape matter saying "it was never a big problem for me."
A thoughtful and necessary video. I used to love Tilda Swinton from her very earliest movies so I was gutted when I first learnt that she had signed this. But I actively started to dislike her when I read that, when approached by a Guardian reporter post-Weinstein, her (well, probably her rep's) response was that she "would like to graciously pass on being interviewed." Who the f*** uses "graciously" to describe their own actions? What a detestable, self-important person she clearly is. I don't particularly care for Natalie Portman but at least she did publicly recant.
I need a great plumber far more than I will ever need a great artist...there is a lot of blood on these 'artists' who signed this petition...my guess is they know a hundred Polanskis and never had the guts to speak out...their careers mattered more, belonging mattered more, being in the loop mattered more...their souls? Not so much.
Peer pressure and shaping of a narrative can come a long way. I remember how journalists used to talk about Polanski around 15 years ago. One report said that he 'seduced' a 13-year old girl. They didn't even mentionthe druging and never called it rape. So based on that, I was inclined to think that his arrest in Switserland was an overreaction to an old lawsuit.
So imagine you were a career driven film maker in Hollywood in a pre-metoo era, who got told to sign that Polanksi petition. Would you have been enlightened enough to refuse? I think we all like to believe that we would. But it's important to know that we're all vulnerable to fall into this culture of excusing abusers. I can still see it with Michael Jackson fans. And it's easy to view Donald Trump followers as brain washed cult members for supporting a sexual predator. Just remember, you may have made mistakes in the past. Let's at least use these cases to learn from them.
I definitely agree with your point of view. That was part of the inspiration to make this piece; to have one concise video that explains all of the facts of the situation so that people don't continue our past mistakes of not looking too deeply into this scenario and trusting biased journalists.
I don't assign any blame to every day moviegoers for supporting Polanski, as many of them don't know the details of the case. I hope that nothing in my piece leads you to believe I do. Who I do assign blame to are the people who did know the details - collaborators in Hollywood, admirers who gained fame long after, etc. People who were "in the know" about the situation or at least had the ability to be "in the know" in one way or another and still chose ignorance.
I agree with you though. Times have been changing rapidly in the last decade or so but, especially in the decades between 1960-2000, the culture of excusing abusers or simply looking the other way was all too common. Thanks for the comment!
I'm pretty sure Lynch only signed that shit because Monica Belucci signed it
Why are you sure of that?
@@Gordon.Pinkerton Call it a hunch....
I will admit that is a good one lol
She can not say yes
What is good about fame with no respectability ??? He has none, nor will he ever🐷
Chinatown is a masterpiece.
∆
They are all sell outs !
I see your point but no one could do what polanski does in films as well as him, new or old. Polanksi is still a hard one to have an opinion on for me but he is still undoubtedly one of the best
How can johnny depp defend a child rapist.. so in his opinion that's not out doing bad things. Shame on you johnny depp. I see you a totally different light now.
He paid the price. Enough with this crap. Move on
The mob will not move on.
It's fuck up and wrong
7:30 what a babe nice job
Judge not not to be judge
Get on a pole
He made a mistake and paid for it.The girl herself has spoken out about the importance of forgivness and leting go. But you should examine your own anger and how it looks for it´s own paths in the world. I would watch that video. Your own motivation for keeping this wound open.
Oopsie daisy banged a child on accident
If you had a daughter that was raped would you defend the rapist? This is ridiculous logic!
How do people not understand that the victim forgiving him, does not absolve him of anything?
Her forgiving him was for *surprise* herself.
Forgiving someone doesn't mean what they did is okay, it just means you let go of the anger towards them that's eating YOU up.
In newer interviews she says, she is glad he is finally seen as the monster he is, so stop painting it as if she thinks he's an amazing person nowadays.
It probably took a lot of therapy for the victim, to stop excusing him and realizing her childhood was taken away.
Her saying that, was probably because she wanted the decades long slut shaming to finally stop.
And finally: none of his other victims have publicly said they forgive him.
So because one victim had a very skewed view on abuse, all the others victims experience don't matter?
The criminal doesn't get punished because the victim wants him to. He gets punished because he is a threat to society. If you get shot you can tell the cops and the judge you forgive the shooter, he's still getting punishment.
Raping children is not a "mistake" and running away from prison is not "paying for it" - you're the one who needs to examine yourself for defending child rape and why you support a slap in the face for all survivors (and for those who have lost people to suicide after Polanski-like predators raped them).
He PAID GOOD MONEY FOR PROP A G AN DA . SAVE ME LIST. IM OK LIST U WANNA Q LOOD LIST.