Tyron’s not coming back, none of us are irreplaceable in our jobs. Thank you Tyron, it was a good run, sorry you didn’t get a Championship in Dallas. Good luck with your future endeavor’s.
@@ftworthtexan9082 he only deserved a low-ball contract because he's pretty much played 50% of the games the last 4-5 years. He was easily the highest paid player per game played in Cowboy's history.
@@bloozedaddy I don't disagree with you, I'm just breaking down what I think probably happened. Tyron is free to do as he wants as a FA. He made $12.2M last year. I don't know if I would pay that for him again, especially if Tyron was insisting on a multi-year deal. I thought some of the OL back ups played okay last year. Specifically Ball and Hutchinson was it??? Anyhow we have a lot of positions that need addressed in FA and the draft.
When he was n there it was all pro play it'll b hard to replace tyron ocyrus Torrance would of been nice Jerry passed on him last draft fir a 3rd string tight end
He did last season. He played the most games he has in a long time last year. After they changed is practice schedule. Everyone went crazy about that but they did it for Romo when he was there.
when he plays only trent willams grades out as a better pass protecting LT yall trippin we will miss him but we won't win with dak anyway so I don't blame him for leaving
I mean, fans/media gripe every season about how many games that Tyron misses and now you guys are going to bash the front office for probably letting him go? That’s ridiculous! Personally, I’d prefer that they kept him for at least one more season but also while drafting a future replacement but this is a business and we’ve seen many star players let go through the team’s history. It’s the same way with every team.
@@ladydi3618 I believe it was his idea to let Tyrone and Pollard walk. Me and another person were talking about this at Chat Sports the RUclips channel Tom Downy has
Ya mad that Tyron may leave are nuts. That dude has barely played in the last 3yrs. Why would they want to extend him? Any team that does sign him is insane. He needs to retire so he doesn't cause more damage to himself.
Sick of Stephen Jones he got Billions of dollars always low ball the player! He inherit the team because of dad. The fans blame the players .The front tell you its a privilege. to play for the Star!! I say no way pay me my money
Tyron has been an excellent player for us for many years but the years have caught up with him he has younger more versatile Defensive ends beating him around the edge and he just misses to much time due to injuries, Thanks Tyron for the memories you'll go down as one of the best Cowboys ever.
Loosing Tyrone is evidence Jerry is not all in.. AS A STATER IF HEALTHY. He is one of the best. Good luck , go win the SB..with a team that is all in. Not the joke organization Dallas is with The Jone,'s.
There is only one thing that might be a goof. Tyron plays the entire season at a high level. If that happens, it is a goof. If he does what he has done for years and is hurt for most of the season, no goof. Regardless of price.
Did we learn nothing with the treatment of Demarcus Ware negotiations? If he goes and wins somewhere else, then good for him. Our teams management is inept.
I have nut'n but the utmost respect for the MANY years elite play but unfortunately father time is undefeated... nvr forget the BEST ABILITY IS AVAILABILITY! I'd still love to see him get a Championship still!
Thank you Ty for being a Cowboy and for trying so hard. If it were not for career altering injuries I think you would have done much better. Thank you for your true effort, except missing practice so much. Guys we really are better off without him.
Stephen Jones is never going to be all in. He has stated time and time again when JJ goes to the great football field in the sky, he and his siblings are going to be more conservative than they are now.
If we lost him over 1mil that would be his goof more than ours. 8 million in new york or new england would be less money in his pocket than 7 million in texas. The gulf has to be big to make sense with the taxes he'll have to pay
@aved-yw7iv They gonna lowball him too. He literally can't practice without getting hurt, that ain't gonna work on a new team. He's gonna have to practice to learn to work with a new line
@@pghj100 I think they got a few teams that will take that even if it's for low money man gave up lil 2 sacks all yr left tackle play like that is hard to put ur hands on in this league
@@aved-yw7ivThat was also his only full season in the last 4 seasons, and if he's gonna take a lowball offer anyway, then he just didn't want to be a cowboy, cuz he has no reason to take less money unless it's from somebody like KC. Why would he go somewhere like washington or the jags for less money?
@aved-yw7iv No team is gonna sit him from practice the whole year. You literally can't name another offensive lineman who they just let sit around and not practice, especially not somebody that's on a new team.
Mr. Fisher. I’ve been a Cowboys fan since 70/80. End of Roger, DW, GH, QC, #7?, VT, DB and TA the Super Bowl years. Jimmy Johnson put those teams together, not JJ!! JJ and SJ have the constant rock in the shoe since JJ’s ego got in the way of Jimmy Johnson being the a very long term dynasty. Now, JJ & SJ have insulted an icon of the Team. A man who has given selflessly on team discounts for the TEAM (no I). Why can’t they see they are their own worst enemies. THE CURSE of Jimmy Johnson will live on for 2024.
The Boys say they are all in EVERY STINKING YEAR! How about saying we are going to the Super Bowl or bust. I mean come on it’s only been 30 years. That’s a life sentence in some states.
Haven't been ring chasing for years. Jerrah is comfortable being average and the most valuable franchise in all of sports. He sees no reason to change!
Yes. I guess they is trying to do some damage control because they know they just made the biggest mistake of their life with not giving him a new contract knowing that they don't have a left tackle on a roster Tyler Smith is ready yet he is not ready to take over that left tackle position yet so what they need to do now it's either going this year draft after. I left tackle either in the first round or second round in the draft or if not that either go after a left tackle either in the free agency one or the other.
fish , im NOT brown nosing - however, i listen to all these ex NFL players and sports analysis whereas, most , not all is "happy horse shit" wherein, listening to you is straight up!!!!!!
Tyron has missed 3-4 games per year and now he can’t practice with the team! Our running game shows that 20% of the Offensive Line is not practicing with the team!
Hate to see Tyron go. One of my favorite Cowboys players. But from a business perspective... if i have an employee who has a history of missing a lot of work... id be pretty hesitant to pay him top dollar.
I find it very hard to believe Brett Veach will give big money to Tyron Smith. He's way too smart. Jets? They pick in the top 10. They are drafting a LT. Book it. This is nothing more than agent hyping his client, which he should. No smartly run team is paying top $ for a guy who can't practice and will miss multiple games. Dallas does need to cut the cord with Tyron even if his camp begs to come back.
When you market your team to be worth $9 billion, you can't have bad public perception, that's why the CYA is happening. Cowboys could have paid him, played him while healthy and used him to train replacements but thats not feasible. Sad to see Marcia's friend go but I'm afraid it might be time. Thanks Fish.
I think that's an overrated misnomer. It all averages out. Whether it's state income, sales, or property taxes. It's mostly BS sold by Texas and Florida.
Fish can we discuss what the cap and team would look like if the Cowboys used the nuclear option and put the band aid on Dak and don’t extend the rest?
"All in" doesn't mean you have to overspend for a player who you're not confident will contribute. I would speculate the offer they made was good, but Tyron is trying to cash out at this stage. Can we stop beating this dead horse.
I do believe that it was time for Tyron Smith to move on. He was not the greatest offensive lineman to ever play for the Cowboys but definitely a Hall of Famer when he decides to retire. It is unfortunate that he was not able to win a Super Bowl Title while he was here. As has been proven over the last 28 going on 29 years any long time Cowboys Star has to actually leave the Cowboys to win a Super Bowl. Good Luck Tyron you deserved better and so do all of us long time die hard OG Cowboys Fans!
The odds are his age and injury history makes not signing him a financial and production a no brainer. I hope he gets another year or two for a gazillion dollars and he gets a ring. Then he'll retire and go into the HOF.....as a Cowboy.
You can't sign players because of Dak's current contract. You can not extend Dak because it will hurt them for the next 4 years of cap hell. Also, Stephen already said they can move Dak's current cap it and get relief. I'm so tired of players only playing for money.
I’m glad they are finally moving on, Make Tyler Smith the left tackle. Will McClay has always said he’s the left tackle of the future. The future is now! That being said, Tyron is a Hall of Famer, his body has broken down. He can’t practice
I think the Cowboys will look for a left Tackle, but if not available, and they don't get a left guard, I see Tyler moving out and Bass moving to guard. Not best case but this can work. I honestly see them looking for a LT in FA or draft. Possibly trade. As for Tyron, he was done as a top LT 4 years ago. He's still good but to many injuries during his Hall of Fame career. It's time to go younger healthier for our O-line. Martin's time is getting near as well. He is definitely a Hall of Famer as well, and still playing at a high level, but his time is coming as well, takes him longer to bounce back from injury, which is normal at his age.
Tyron’s not coming back, none of us are irreplaceable in our jobs. Thank you Tyron, it was a good run, sorry you didn’t get a Championship in Dallas. Good luck with your future endeavor’s.
He probably was offered a low ball salary. He looked at it and said I'm gone.
@@ftworthtexan9082 he only deserved a low-ball contract because he's pretty much played 50% of the games the last 4-5 years. He was easily the highest paid player per game played in Cowboy's history.
@bloozedaddy I don't think so. His contract was pretty old besides last year and he played a lot last year too.
@@bloozedaddy I don't disagree with you, I'm just breaking down what I think probably happened. Tyron is free to do as he wants as a FA. He made $12.2M last year. I don't know if I would pay that for him again, especially if Tyron was insisting on a multi-year deal. I thought some of the OL back ups played okay last year. Specifically Ball and Hutchinson was it??? Anyhow we have a lot of positions that need addressed in FA and the draft.
When he was n there it was all pro play it'll b hard to replace tyron ocyrus Torrance would of been nice Jerry passed on him last draft fir a 3rd string tight end
We're going to miss you Tyron sorry to see you go!
I love Tyron but what are the odds that he makes it to week (4) without an injury? 🤷♂️
He did last season. He played the most games he has in a long time last year. After they changed is practice schedule. Everyone went crazy about that but they did it for Romo when he was there.
@@kngzealous He missed the Cardinals game. 😒
What are the odds he goes to a (REAL) competitor for a Super Bowl? Very high.
@@Drago2600 Yep. And then he once again gets injured, but gets a ring anyway.😏
when he plays only trent willams grades out as a better pass protecting LT yall trippin we will miss him but we won't win with dak anyway so I don't blame him for leaving
Fish....if you are gonna dye your hair, do the whole thing!!!!
Tyron is the GOAT. F the Cowboys
I mean, fans/media gripe every season about how many games that Tyron misses and now you guys are going to bash the front office for probably letting him go? That’s ridiculous! Personally, I’d prefer that they kept him for at least one more season but also while drafting a future replacement but this is a business and we’ve seen many star players let go through the team’s history. It’s the same way with every team.
💯 it's a business and he's missed a ton of games. Jimmy Johnson would have traded him 3-4 year's ago
@@danielcarrillo9497 yep, you are probably right. We’ve seen so many great players let go, E.Smith comes to mind, Witten, D.Ware, etc, etc.
@@billierenfro705 exactly
That part!!! Now that Jimmie advisor who says it wasn't his idea hmmm🤔@danielcarrillo9497
@@ladydi3618 I believe it was his idea to let Tyrone and Pollard walk. Me and another person were talking about this at Chat Sports the RUclips channel Tom Downy has
I like Tyron , God bless him anywhere he goes.
Goofy cowboys
Been a good run. I’d rather let a guy go a year early than a year late.
I find it hard to believe that another team will allow him to not practice and just show up on Sunday.
Who cares? Do you think these NFL teams actually practice?? Like real practice?
@@JeepersCreepers2013yeah .. they do...
@@JeepersCreepers2013 Whatever "NFL" teams are doing in the place of practice kept Tyron on the injury report and out of games.....right?
I think he'll need to practice to get used to his new scheme and teammates
@@BrettPittman exactly what I was thinking
Fish always says he’s going to judge the Jones’s harshly and then when the time comes he defends them.
Yes Dallas Cowboys goof this up .
Ya mad that Tyron may leave are nuts. That dude has barely played in the last 3yrs. Why would they want to extend him? Any team that does sign him is insane. He needs to retire so he doesn't cause more damage to himself.
GO COWBOYS!
GM my friend
@@TrueBlueTodd Have a good day my friend!
I guess "all-in" is watching our pro-bowlers leave.
Sick of Stephen Jones he got Billions of dollars always low ball the player! He inherit the team because of dad. The fans blame the players .The front tell you its a privilege. to play for the Star!! I say no way pay me my money
Best of luck Tyron
Big mistake , easy call. All in ya right.
They screw up on everything
They are right- I don’t care if he’s the best players in the league if he only plays 4 games your wasting a roster spot-
Played 14 this year.
That’s ridiculous , this guys don’t grow on tree’s. He is a monster . Thought they were all in. Joke
@@TG0G0what he play the prior 3 look 👀 it up you will say bye bye
Let him walk. He was great but he’s done. He hasn’t had a healthy season in five years
I can't believe our line is better without Tyron Smith !
This doesn't feel much like all -in.. not for this season anyway
Tyron has been an excellent player for us for many years but the years have caught up with him he has younger more versatile Defensive ends beating him around the edge and he just misses to much time due to injuries, Thanks Tyron for the memories you'll go down as one of the best Cowboys ever.
Loosing Tyrone is evidence Jerry is not all in.. AS A STATER IF HEALTHY. He is one of the best. Good luck , go win the SB..with a team that is all in. Not the joke organization Dallas is with The Jone,'s.
I don’t blame him for wanting to leave this shit show
Hello Fish 🐠 I hope Tyron grabs the bag and a ring .I was hoping wishing it would be with the Cowboys That said i wish him the very best nothing but ❤
There is only one thing that might be a goof. Tyron plays the entire season at a high level. If that happens, it is a goof. If he does what he has done for years and is hurt for most of the season, no goof. Regardless of price.
Did we learn nothing with the treatment of Demarcus Ware negotiations? If he goes and wins somewhere else, then good for him. Our teams management is inept.
I thought you were going on a vacation?
I don’t see any drinks with umbrellas!
“Who is smart and who is dumb?” WHO gets lucky!
I have nut'n but the utmost respect for the MANY years elite play but unfortunately father time is undefeated... nvr forget the BEST ABILITY IS AVAILABILITY! I'd still love to see him get a Championship still!
Fish, question... If Tyler and Tyron were on the FA market today, who would get more offers? We already have a replacement...
Good morning fish 🐠
Hope Tryon signs in Kansas city. Thanks Tryon good luck
Yes he deserves a incentive laiden contract based on games played
Yep id go 600k PER game
Thank you Ty for being a Cowboy and for trying so hard. If it were not for career altering injuries I think you would have done much better. Thank you for your true effort, except missing practice so much. Guys we really are better off without him.
Thank you tyron you made your money . Now go to another team to get your championship cause this team isn't going anywhere good luck .
Stephen Jones is never going to be all in. He has stated time and time again when JJ goes to the great football field in the sky, he and his siblings are going to be more conservative than they are now.
Yes you right Travis
Jones'... sheesh!!! can they get it together already?
77 gave up on the Cowboys, lol. Look at us.
Didn't practice. Sign someone who can.
They can practice, but they won't play better even if TS misses 8 games
I won't miss Mr brittle bones......
They screwed up not winning a superbowl with him 1 of the greats we've ever had
I agree with decision he's getting old to many injuries we go out an find some in draft an free agency good move
If we lost him over 1mil that would be his goof more than ours. 8 million in new york or new england would be less money in his pocket than 7 million in texas. The gulf has to be big to make sense with the taxes he'll have to pay
A contender gonna scoop him with the quickness 💯
@aved-yw7iv They gonna lowball him too. He literally can't practice without getting hurt, that ain't gonna work on a new team. He's gonna have to practice to learn to work with a new line
@@pghj100 I think they got a few teams that will take that even if it's for low money man gave up lil 2 sacks all yr left tackle play like that is hard to put ur hands on in this league
@@aved-yw7ivThat was also his only full season in the last 4 seasons, and if he's gonna take a lowball offer anyway, then he just didn't want to be a cowboy, cuz he has no reason to take less money unless it's from somebody like KC. Why would he go somewhere like washington or the jags for less money?
@aved-yw7iv No team is gonna sit him from practice the whole year. You literally can't name another offensive lineman who they just let sit around and not practice, especially not somebody that's on a new team.
Tyron wasn’t available much. His health was an issue.
GM Fish and Fish Nation
Well they let D Ware walk so they don’t care
Mr. Fisher. I’ve been a Cowboys fan since 70/80. End of Roger, DW, GH, QC, #7?, VT, DB and TA the Super Bowl years. Jimmy Johnson put those teams together, not JJ!! JJ and SJ have the constant rock in the shoe since JJ’s ego got in the way of Jimmy Johnson being the a very long term dynasty. Now, JJ & SJ have insulted an icon of the Team. A man who has given selflessly on team discounts for the TEAM (no I). Why can’t they see they are their own worst enemies. THE CURSE of Jimmy Johnson will live on for 2024.
The Boys say they are all in EVERY STINKING YEAR! How about saying we are going to the Super Bowl or bust. I mean come on it’s only been 30 years. That’s a life sentence in some states.
If he's still a free agent player in November I got us bringing him back for the playoff run.... GO COWBOYS!
So him "ring chasing" means not here? We not ring chasing?
Haven't been ring chasing for years. Jerrah is comfortable being average and the most valuable franchise in all of sports. He sees no reason to change!
Only Rings he chasing is Onion 🧅 Rings
Yes. I guess they is trying to do some damage control because they know they just made the biggest mistake of their life with not giving him a new contract knowing that they don't have a left tackle on a roster Tyler Smith is ready yet he is not ready to take over that left tackle position yet so what they need to do now it's either going this year draft after. I left tackle either in the first round or second round in the draft or if not that either go after a left tackle either in the free agency one or the other.
After years of giving a discount. Pay the one year and a beauty
Tyrone was always hurt and couldn't play. What good was he for half the season only. Right decision.
Tyron in cold weather good luck buddy
We need " Texas Toast offense" T shirts back Mike... please :P
fish , im NOT brown nosing - however, i listen to all these ex NFL players and sports analysis whereas, most , not all is "happy horse shit" wherein, listening to you is straight up!!!!!!
Tony Romo and Dez Bryant were also Jones family guys :(
Tyron has missed 3-4 games per year and now he can’t practice with the team! Our running game shows that 20% of the Offensive Line is not practicing with the team!
Hate to see Tyron go. One of my favorite Cowboys players.
But from a business perspective... if i have an employee who has a history of missing a lot of work... id be pretty hesitant to pay him top dollar.
Tyron was a good piece to have on the roster. If anything, the organization is in the habit of hanging on to fan favorites for far too long.
I find it very hard to believe Brett Veach will give big money to Tyron Smith. He's way too smart. Jets? They pick in the top 10. They are drafting a LT. Book it. This is nothing more than agent hyping his client, which he should. No smartly run team is paying top $ for a guy who can't practice and will miss multiple games. Dallas does need to cut the cord with Tyron even if his camp begs to come back.
No they're not right and they are clearly not "all in".
Hes always hurt let him go. 2 years at 5 mill a year or let him walk.
HAPPY MONDAY FISH!
Morning FISHERS and cowboys nation
It's Tuesday and where is Mike Fisher?
Love him, sad deal 💔
He ought to try for a SB ring - Chiefs, Chargers, Niners
Up for debate. He's had injury absences for years. Dammed if you do, Dammed if you don't. Even legends come and go.
How do you KNOW what decision has been made?
Stephen Jones = Cheap Pete
Could've been a good backup at least.
When not Injured he is the best
When you market your team to be worth $9 billion, you can't have bad public perception, that's why the CYA is happening. Cowboys could have paid him, played him while healthy and used him to train replacements but thats not feasible. Sad to see Marcia's friend go but I'm afraid it might be time. Thanks Fish.
Martins holdout and pay increase affects this yes...
Never would have payed Martin
Some of that "political goofiness" is retiring with Peter King.
Can't pay someone that can't play all 18 games enough with this only because it's the cowboys. Other teams let go of players.. Enough!!
Will they be able to match other offers
I am so sick of this “all in” bs. All we are doing is giving an attention addicted owner what he wants most.
Free agency hasn't even started. Keep your powder dry. Let's see
@@BrettPittmanbe ready to be disappointed buddy 💯
@@socal-trojan-cowboysfan6925exactly they aren't doing shit
@@socal-trojan-cowboysfan6925 I'm sure I will be.. lol
"We" are not doing anything. The franchise is doing whatever they want and don't give a rat's ass what you think.
NY Taxes too
I think that's an overrated misnomer. It all averages out. Whether it's state income, sales, or property taxes. It's mostly BS sold by Texas and Florida.
Fish can we discuss what the cap and team would look like if the Cowboys used the nuclear option and put the band aid on Dak and don’t extend the rest?
"All in" doesn't mean you have to overspend for a player who you're not confident will contribute. I would speculate the offer they made was good, but Tyron is trying to cash out at this stage. Can we stop beating this dead horse.
Does anyone remember how horrible Dak was and is without Tyron Smith in the lineup? Chaz Green anyone?
Dallas has screwed up just about everything else, why not with Tyron too?
MORNING FISH
I do believe that it was time for Tyron Smith to move on. He was not the greatest offensive lineman to ever play for the Cowboys but definitely a Hall of Famer when he decides to retire. It is unfortunate that he was not able to win a Super Bowl Title while he was here. As has been proven over the last 28 going on 29 years any long time Cowboys Star has to actually leave the Cowboys to win a Super Bowl. Good Luck Tyron you deserved better and so do all of us long time die hard OG Cowboys Fans!
This all in is starting to look like a 9-8 season so that they can actually go all in with some cap room
The odds are his age and injury history makes not signing him a financial and production a no brainer. I hope he gets another year or two for a gazillion dollars and he gets a ring. Then he'll retire and go into the HOF.....as a Cowboy.
You can't sign players because of Dak's current contract. You can not extend Dak because it will hurt them for the next 4 years of cap hell. Also, Stephen already said they can move Dak's current cap it and get relief. I'm so tired of players only playing for money.
I’m glad they are finally moving on, Make Tyler Smith the left tackle. Will McClay has always said he’s the left tackle of the future. The future is now! That being said, Tyron is a Hall of Famer, his body has broken down. He can’t practice
Nope they didn’t screw this up, I think they should have done this a while ago.
I think the Cowboys will look for a left Tackle, but if not available, and they don't get a left guard, I see Tyler moving out and Bass moving to guard. Not best case but this can work. I honestly see them looking for a LT in FA or draft. Possibly trade. As for Tyron, he was done as a top LT 4 years ago. He's still good but to many injuries during his Hall of Fame career. It's time to go younger healthier for our O-line. Martin's time is getting near as well. He is definitely a Hall of Famer as well, and still playing at a high level, but his time is coming as well, takes him longer to bounce back from injury, which is normal at his age.
Let's talk facts on Ty Run.. How many games has he played in the last four seasons.? Let's start our negotiation from there
What else is new with the Jones’s boy they can mess things up
Tyron can walk. If he wants to stay then league minimum as a back up. If you play then you can get more money
All part of Jerry's plan,put inexperienced player on Dacs blind side ,get him hurt and Lance gets he's opportunity, Jerry a genius LOL