Thanks Vince for another great tutorial and video. One question. I see more and more painters and youtubers using AK, and I am thinking about testing ‘em out. What colours except the metallics would you say are their strong points compared to vallejo, pro acryl, S75 etc?
Mos tof the range honestly. It's basically an improved vallejo, it has better flow and control, but a similar color range. They areally are wonderful paints.
I just picked up a few torch bearing goblins, who I envisioned in dimmed moonlight (maybe a half moon). This video is going help me accept the process, take advantage of some shortcuts, and enjoy the different techniques to refine my game. I see colors completely differently, like a gradient of volumes, and playing with the light sources, textures, shapes, etc. Thanks for the inspiration, deeply appreciate your work! Enjoy your style and jokes!
Your explanation and approach helped me find an "aha" moment with OSL and make a major breakthrough in a model I'm working on. Thanks so much for this!
Reasonable. I just used oil for the first time (thanks, Vince!) and thought I ruined it, even after pulling paint off the in right places. I’m about to pop up the highlights and reinforce my mid tones. But after this video, I see the same thing a bit differently. The gradient is gonna be key. Love the mental game involved.
This video and the two light source demon you did a while ago really crystalized the way I think about OSL planning. I have no idea what regional accent you have, but I like the way you say "ornj". It's different from my local pronunciation.
Generally mid-Ohio English is pretty close to no accent, it’s what’s taught to newscasters to speak neutrally, but there is always a word or two that we have that is weird. ;)
Thanks for this video, fantastic breakdown as always!… I’d really appreciate if you could answer a question I’ve not had much luck with; I have a large model that’s already painted, but wasn’t done so with with any kind of OSL in mind. I’m doing the base now I’d really like to add one from a source below. Is it possible to create a convincing OSL effect on a model that’s already painted with normal lighting, or would it look odd and out of place?
It will look odd if you just try to add the light. All painting is painting the light, if you did a "standard" paint job then you likely used a diffuse light from generally above. Which means it's fairly bright and the light is fairly even. You could try to first shoot a big shadow from below with an airbrush or something and then work in that area with a light from below, but it generally is something that has to be built in from the beginning.
Thanks for the reply, as you guessed I did paint it with a diffused even light from above, and I’m now wishing that I’d used a more dramatic dark/ high contrast lighting with an OSL from below… for my entire SBGL army in fact. All good learning though, and I’ll think more about lighting sources and creating a story using light in the future. I might try adding a bit of shadow and painting in some light from below on this model, but only subtly. Thanks again, your content continues to help me learn tonnes!
Excellent video as usual. Quick question : if I want to apply it on a larger scale, for instance to make a diorama using both fire and moonlight, how should I handle the transition ? With a « dark » area with barely any highlights ?
Very interesting and nice info! Here you plan the OSL from the start, but is it possible to create the OSL on an already painted figure? Like first paint it "clean" and then add light effects on top of the paintjob.
Not really, because painting is painting the light. If you're painting it "standard" you're assuming the light from somewhere, so you need to set the light from the beginning.
@@VinceVenturella Ahh, as I assumed then. So if you paint GW-style, without shadows, it's like the model is bathed in "noshadow light" and therefore any added OSL on top of that will look washed out at best.
Great video! One question though: In the first step you’re sketching using the brightest orange and I noticed it has great coverage. What if that isn’t the case? Usuallt the brightest paints, especially orange have crappy coverage. Would you do several layers of it? Or would it be better to use white/bright tan and then paint the orange on top of it?
Hello good sir! First of all I want to say I really appreciate you taking all the time and all of your hard work and all of your in-depth explanations and tutorials I've learned a lot from you and I really appreciate it I also wanted to say I just received in the mail "Larry" the little screaming ogre guy and I can't wait to paint his fat roll jelly back then follow step by step on the many videos featuring him hope you have a great day
That light looks super credible, definitely need to try this out in some capacity. A small aside: is the video title meant to be Fire List OSL or Fire Lit OSL? Or possibly Fire Light OSL?
If we know at the outset that we're painting this kind of effect, can we at the very start airbrush something like an orange ink onto the model from the position of the light source to create the value sketch?
What is the black puddy you used to protect the head and hand? My concern is not to pull off the paint from those areas or leave some residue from that material when it is removed. Thanks!
I gotta tell ya, I feel like you understated the importance of that final edge highlight, it really brought it all together. Also probably the step I'll be most terrified of once I try something as well achieved as this... I still need to get better about not thinking of a paintjob as "basically done, I can only mess it up from here", it's just one of those fear phrases that keeps you from pushing on and putting the finishing 5% on the mini that elevates it so much further, to the best of your current abilities. Thanks for sharing your method and process, it's a huge boost to just try out stuff and emulate something that may look unfeasible to try and replicate, once you see it broken down into the parts of its sum.
Have you used army painter speed paints yet? I would be interested in how you use those someday
Haven't gotten a chance yet.
Keeping for the Gandalf vs Balrog I dream of doing...
Thanks Vince for another great tutorial and video. One question. I see more and more painters and youtubers using AK, and I am thinking about testing ‘em out. What colours except the metallics would you say are their strong points compared to vallejo, pro acryl, S75 etc?
Mos tof the range honestly. It's basically an improved vallejo, it has better flow and control, but a similar color range. They areally are wonderful paints.
@@VinceVenturella thanks for the answer!
I just picked up a few torch bearing goblins, who I envisioned in dimmed moonlight (maybe a half moon). This video is going help me accept the process, take advantage of some shortcuts, and enjoy the different techniques to refine my game. I see colors completely differently, like a gradient of volumes, and playing with the light sources, textures, shapes, etc. Thanks for the inspiration, deeply appreciate your work! Enjoy your style and jokes!
Your explanation and approach helped me find an "aha" moment with OSL and make a major breakthrough in a model I'm working on. Thanks so much for this!
This looks like a job for oils.
Reasonable. I just used oil for the first time (thanks, Vince!) and thought I ruined it, even after pulling paint off the in right places. I’m about to pop up the highlights and reinforce my mid tones. But after this video, I see the same thing a bit differently. The gradient is gonna be key. Love the mental game involved.
Working on this lad at the moment 😅
Awesome video, great tips on doing a flame and hopefully you can do one on fire light on a figure.
This video and the two light source demon you did a while ago really crystalized the way I think about OSL planning.
I have no idea what regional accent you have, but I like the way you say "ornj". It's different from my local pronunciation.
Generally mid-Ohio English is pretty close to no accent, it’s what’s taught to newscasters to speak neutrally, but there is always a word or two that we have that is weird. ;)
Great video, this and part 1 inspired me to pop open my Crimson court and see what I can get done for Halloween.
Thanks for this video, fantastic breakdown as always!… I’d really appreciate if you could answer a question I’ve not had much luck with; I have a large model that’s already painted, but wasn’t done so with with any kind of OSL in mind. I’m doing the base now I’d really like to add one from a source below. Is it possible to create a convincing OSL effect on a model that’s already painted with normal lighting, or would it look odd and out of place?
It will look odd if you just try to add the light. All painting is painting the light, if you did a "standard" paint job then you likely used a diffuse light from generally above. Which means it's fairly bright and the light is fairly even. You could try to first shoot a big shadow from below with an airbrush or something and then work in that area with a light from below, but it generally is something that has to be built in from the beginning.
Thanks for the reply, as you guessed I did paint it with a diffused even light from above, and I’m now wishing that I’d used a more dramatic dark/ high contrast lighting with an OSL from below… for my entire SBGL army in fact. All good learning though, and I’ll think more about lighting sources and creating a story using light in the future. I might try adding a bit of shadow and painting in some light from below on this model, but only subtly. Thanks again, your content continues to help me learn tonnes!
Excellent video as usual. Quick question : if I want to apply it on a larger scale, for instance to make a diorama using both fire and moonlight, how should I handle the transition ? With a « dark » area with barely any highlights ?
Yes, though you want to have those areas mapped out, because you’ll have a general area of diffuse light and one intense light.
Very interesting and nice info! Here you plan the OSL from the start, but is it possible to create the OSL on an already painted figure? Like first paint it "clean" and then add light effects on top of the paintjob.
Not really, because painting is painting the light. If you're painting it "standard" you're assuming the light from somewhere, so you need to set the light from the beginning.
@@VinceVenturella Ahh, as I assumed then. So if you paint GW-style, without shadows, it's like the model is bathed in "noshadow light" and therefore any added OSL on top of that will look washed out at best.
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Great model, except that pesky hair lock that covers the face :D
I just snipped it off. :)
Doesn't cadmium orange have cadmium in it, do you take any precautions when using such a paint?
It does, but no issues beyond normal mask and such. Don't eat the paint.
Great video! One question though: In the first step you’re sketching using the brightest orange and I noticed it has great coverage. What if that isn’t the case? Usuallt the brightest paints, especially orange have crappy coverage. Would you do several layers of it? Or would it be better to use white/bright tan and then paint the orange on top of it?
Yes, correct
Thank you for mentioning your PSI. It's very rarely ever mentioned by other painters.
My pleasure!
Hello good sir! First of all I want to say I really appreciate you taking all the time and all of your hard work and all of your in-depth explanations and tutorials I've learned a lot from you and I really appreciate it I also wanted to say I just received in the mail "Larry" the little screaming ogre guy and I can't wait to paint his fat roll jelly back then follow step by step on the many videos featuring him hope you have a great day
That light looks super credible, definitely need to try this out in some capacity.
A small aside: is the video title meant to be Fire List OSL or Fire Lit OSL? Or possibly Fire Light OSL?
Fire light. :) - No one else caught that. :)
Between this and the moonlight video, you have been on… nvm
If we know at the outset that we're painting this kind of effect, can we at the very start airbrush something like an orange ink onto the model from the position of the light source to create the value sketch?
Sure, I have a video on that as well - ruclips.net/video/s3VvpTfZ_lo/видео.html
Great video as always and a great part II spooky time flame lesson!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This one goes in the study folder!! Too much to digest in one sitting. Thank you!!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Great topic, Vince
What is the black puddy you used to protect the head and hand? My concern is not to pull off the paint from those areas or leave some residue from that material when it is removed. Thanks!
It's AK elastic putty, but it's basically just silly putty.
Wish there was a final beauty close up reveal to see the finished work
Usually I include some shots at the end over my speech, no idea why I didn't do it here, but I will share on social media.
This was an awesome effect, Mr V. Thanks for the lesson!
My pleasure!
I know what my next project will be… ;-)
I must bring myself to try your value sketching technique. The results are nothing short of amazing.
Vince - your production and sound quality have become great, nice work my friend
Perfect fig for October. I wish he had a tiny little bat flying over his shoulder!
I gotta tell ya, I feel like you understated the importance of that final edge highlight, it really brought it all together. Also probably the step I'll be most terrified of once I try something as well achieved as this... I still need to get better about not thinking of a paintjob as "basically done, I can only mess it up from here", it's just one of those fear phrases that keeps you from pushing on and putting the finishing 5% on the mini that elevates it so much further, to the best of your current abilities. Thanks for sharing your method and process, it's a huge boost to just try out stuff and emulate something that may look unfeasible to try and replicate, once you see it broken down into the parts of its sum.
Hey Vince, I've not seen you use your HiLine since you got your Infinity. Has the new airbrush taken over from the Iwatas?
FOr most uses yes. :)
Good morning Vincent!
Thanks for the video 👋🏼
This looks so convincing! Spot on paint job!
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Thanks for sharing your mastery!
My pleasure!