Pimpin' the Amiga 600 in 2021 | MVG
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- A viewer sent me an old Amiga 600 computer that has sat in storage for over 20 years. Lets get it cleaned, pimped out with some updated hardware and play some games!
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#Amiga #A600
That was my first computer. How sweet
AlexiBexi, du hier? :D
Hallöle AlexiBexi! Hätte dich nicht hier erwartet... XD
it was my 5th computer. It was awesome!
Also dich habe ich hier am wenigsten erwartet!!!
It was my first bought with my own money at the age of 15! Cost me $350+ in 1993
Ahh my absolute favourite childhood computer, I have been desperately searching for one for years.
Mine was the A500+, awesome machine.
Amen to both of those; I had an A1200 with a 40MB HDD (swanky for the time) and my friend had an A600. He was always envious of that speedier processor and extra meg of RAM, but they were both great machines...
Never heard of Ebay I guess
@@godslayer1415 might not be available in his region, or not have AMiGAs on there barely ever?
@@godslayer1415 oh I try on there all the time, but I'd love to find a bargain and maybe one I can fix up, so I would prefer if I could see it in person.
btw @MVG you missed the prefect opportunity to put only the M V G keys on first ;-)
*music starts playing*
MVG adding restoration videos to his repertoire is what the world needed
Restoration? More like a good clean...
I remember having one of these ten years ago. I found one in an old house from my family who I assumed was owned by one of my family member's back in the day when Amiga was popular. It somehow still worked after so much time of it sitting there in an old box.
The nice 80's music is a good touch
Top tip as mentioned here, BE CAREFUL when removing key caps. The caps can require some force to overcome the key retention and it’s important to go slowly and not let the cap fly off. Flying caps don’t go very far and are easy to find but trust me those springs can fly much further and will bounce off in random directions. I lost one last year which turned up six months later in a completely different part of the man cave. If this happens the space bar has two springs and will work okay with just one until you find a replacement for the one you lost.
I wish I read this comment before it happened to me
The natural grime protected the exterior from uv damage haha
If it wasn't in direct sunlight, it wouldn't really get very yellow
One of my biggest regrets ever (no joke!) is getting rid of A600 when our family got a new PC. Not that I had much to say in this regard, seeing that we weren't wealthy and my dad has found an enthusiast who paid a good amount of money for it back then - this was circa 1998 I think. We even had an OG Commodore colour monitor for it !
But I have just shrugged off this, because I already got better machine with flashier games... Years later I've understood that it was a great system and went back to many games running on emulators, of course. Then it hit me - many of those are still amazing fun years later, but they were much better on real hardware and that sweet CRT screen.
These days, working A600 are not that common and their prices are relatively high. Would love to get an original some day, though, let alone pimped out one like one shown! Thanks for bringing back memories!
While you had everything apart I still would have taken the time to recap the board anyway. Old caps always make me nervous.
Yup totally, you will get issue after issue otherwise, my original A1200 really needs doing, I will have to get it apart and do it at some point soon.
I would have tested it first before putting it all together and before installing the accelerator. If you make sure it works before any modifications then if it doesn't work after you know what caused the problem. I don't mind old caps on motherboards because as long as they don't leak electrolyte they won't cause any damage. IMO it's not worth the hassle (and risk, especially if you're inexperienced) of recapping if it works reliably as is. It's not too much work to take the board back out later if/when the need arises.
The A600 was my first Amiga as a teenager. Oh I miss those days! Looks great!!
My A500 which I bought back in 1988 has never developed a fault and not yellowed at all in 32yrs, always treat a magical machine with respect!
Awwww yes!!!!
I dont need sleep I need mvg content.
I recommend spraying any cleaning solution to a towel rather directly to a machine itself. Especially with regards to the keyboard were liquid can sip onto the membrane.
There wasn't a membrane on this mechanical keyboard, as you can see on the vid, he removed almost all keys and then sprayed some more windex on there
@@kikujade notice at the start of the video he pulled a green ribbon while opening for the first time the machine. That is a keyboard membrane that goes under the base that holds the key plungers, springs etc. Through the holes of the base liquid can easily enter and contaminate the membrane.
@@32KOFDATA you are right, I missed that part of the video
wait this isn’t the 8-bit guy
Yeah, there is no retrobriting nor paperclips in power supplies.
or RMC who recently did a wonderful series about Amiga 600.
Adrian's Digital Basement is better than 8bit guy
@@mikeuk666 True. Adrian is also not working together with Clippy on some very rare old computers. ;-)
@@Okurka. or a 32 bit machine
That grime just added some character to it.
What's up MrMario
& DNA
That's gunk erasure.
I wasn’t expecting an Amiga video so soon in the new year. Never lose your (and my) roots my man.
Dude that melody in the intro is so epic
Awesome. MVG meets 8-Bit Guy and cleans up a classic computer.
Always take photos as you disassemble, especially the keyboard. Makes a world of difference for keyboard layouts that aren't the typical AX/XT.
When I’ve needed a key puller, I’ve just tied a bosun’s chair, a knot like two bowlines that gives you two loops dangling, and doesn’t slip closed, in a piece of thin wire. Works just the same, if a little more fiddly.
I had an Amiga 1200 in high school and I started drawing on it. Today I'm a graphic designer and it's also thanks to that wonderful machine. I wish I could find one.
The fan who sent this is a great dude, helping preserve history
I had the 1200 and my favourite games were Cannon Fodder, Mortal Kombat, Dennis, Oscar, Desert Strike, Lion King and Lethal Weapon. Memories!
You done a great job on this btw
Oh man, 2 The 8 Bit Guy episodes in one week, 2021 is starting to look good!
Has he not destroyed any more systems yet? that 8bit idiot came off my watch list when I realised how much of a hack he is.
@@retrobossmonster5509 what
@@retrobossmonster5509 but like, who asked?
The 8 bit guy had retro brigned the plastics
Weird. I thought it was him too. Thought it was strange that he would use the word "Pimpin"
Happy memories of the 90s playing project X and pinball fantasy till the early hours on a school night and who can forget speed ball.
You took it apart, cleaned it thoroughly, and upgraded the hardware all without any hardware testing? I call shenanigans on your statement about not knowing if it worked.
You must not have ever done this before. Garage finds often work fine
1) The capacitors are leaking, I have a lot of experience with this and I can tell (the pads are dull and not shiny, cap leakage can often be hard to detect). They must be replaced ASAP, and board cleaned.
2) You do NOT want to just pull out the keyboard ribbon cable. This will damage the contacts on the ribbon over time, this is a very common fault. Always lift up the white latch on the motherboard first.
100% agreed on the caps. Last year I caught my brother's A600 just in time. Lost a bunch of silk screen markings and had to tin up a few traces where the solder mask had already been slightly compromised. No broken traces or lost pads fortunately. I did my A1200 at the same time, and that one only showed a few dull capacitor legs, however once I introduced the soldering iron the tell tale fish smell told me the recap+thorough cleanup was absolutely needed.
Even if the caps were not leaking, it's still a good idea to replace them. They're almost 30 years old.
@@AmartharDrakestone Sure, the SMD caps of that era (around '89..'94) are known to not last as long as they should. They should have a high replacing priority.
Agreed, it is really hard to see visually if SMD caps are bad or not. But at timestamp 6:28 C409 C459 are visibly dull and even bulging, and at 5:13 C304 is also visibly dull and leaking.
3:03 MVG going through parallel universes.
3:00 his hand
Glitches in real life
Don't worry. It's just a bug in the Matrix.
your kiroshi cybereyes are acting up.
I just finished restoring an A600 too. My opinion off this machine has changed greatly. Easily the best way of creating a WHDLoad gaming machine.
Its fine to remove keys with a screwdrivers IF you are aware of what keyswitch is under it, it can break some key switch types ( its a very bad idea on ALPS for example)
I used an A600 live on stage for a few years before I got an A1200. A great little workhorse. Great crunchy 8 bit sampling which is a bit of a retro obsession these days.
A600 had the cheap capacitors during the capacitor plague so this is a time bomb. These surface mount capacitors may look ok from the top but may be leaking underneath. These capacitor issues and price are reason I stick with MISTer FPGA for Amiga gaming.
I'm 50 now and I've been gaming since I was 14 on my Atari 2600 (I still have it and it still works) but the best experiences came from an Atari 1040STE, there were some really good games back then. I recently found one game I used to play on it was just remade, The Bluecoats: North vs South. Makes me feel young again.
Super Skidmarks! Alien Breed! Cannon Fodder! Stardust! It Came From the Desert! Growing up with an Amiga was the best.
MVG: "You will notice the warranty sticker has been broken in the middle, which means-"
*Dankpods crashes through the window*
"SOMEONE'S BEEN IN HERE!"
In an Aussie accent. G'day
I know the current news/current gen hardware videos get a ton of views and likes...but for my money, your videos on tertiary computer gaming and arcade stuff has always been the best because it just feels like it comes from a real place of passion. I get extremely excited about these videos and hope to see many, many more. Bye for now!
I really need an Amiga A600 back in my life.
Really a very nice outcome! And really a LOT of surprise from the capacitors just below the floppy drive area, audio area (left one), power / video area (left and near the chip in the middle), OMG!! Check it out really fast, it deserve that care! Cheers, M
I waited the whole video hoping to hear that clickity clack from the keyboard and I got nothing! Good work looks great, I remember my grandfather playing with one of these and telling me this is where the future was headed.
That scourer with the washing up liquid reservoir was the real star of the show
A nice twist on the LGR/8-Bit Guy formula. Nice that you didn't have to retrobright it. Always love seeing old machines get a new chance at life. Thanks MVG! :)
I never had these machines before so, i don't know i have no idea, but it was nice to see one of em actually
Hurrah, lovely to see another classic amiga being saved.
NICE.
MVG joining the restoring and modding vintage tech trend. Seeing a lot of _8-bit Guy_ techniques. Looking forward to what he brings to the formula. Given his strengths, I’d recommend steering more towards _Mr Carlson’s Lab_ style videos because MVG videos are much more technical than typical restoration vids.
All the use of Windex reminds me of the movie _My Big FAT Greek Wedding_ where the Greek father-in-law uses it as a panacea for everything.
Delighted to see the A600 rehabilitated online. I understand it was a disappointment to OG fans of the A500 but for those of us who came to Amiga computers after the demise of Commodore, it is the perfect starter system.
A detailed cleaning of an old computer that mentions Retr0bright? MVG has turned into The 8-Bit Guy. This is not a problem for me, by the way... both great channels for computing.
Love the 8bit guy
Beautiful machine, older than me but makes me feel nostalgic. What 8s utterly fascinating and completely bonkers to me is that a 10 dollar Raspberry Pi Zero W is a much more capable machine... The progress in hardware capabilities is just astounding for me, even in one decade let alone 4.
Easily my favorite computer washing video on youtube!
MVG: Now, before we put the Amiga 600 back in it's case...
A600 in the background fully assembled: Am I a joke to you?
Nice video and props to the dedication to to all this cleaning by hand!
It's very rare to find someone who will actually be patient enough to do all of this manually.
Youve done a tidy job there well done, so many people rave about retrobrighting (using peroxide and sunshine) to fix the effects of bromine retardation in the plastic, its messy, smelly doesnt last either, soap and water as you have shown is often all that is required and then letting them dry out in hot sunshine will brighten them up, attacking the plastic with peroxide is a temporary fix, unless they are really bad its better to just clean them as you have shown here, great work.
I'm just restoring a 600 now glad I found this video :)
Hoffman tracks playing in the background, absolute choons!
Ian's Cave Sessions album is also visible in the background 👍
I have some great nostalgia from this video, I grew up with an A600 through my childhood. I swapped it for a pair of ice skates, probably one of the biggest regrets of my life.
Windex is not recommended for plastics. You should get this German plastic cleaning product called 'Kunst-Stoff'. It has the added bonus of anti static.
Amazing timing. I just got my first Amiga 600 two days ago. It came with a 4GB CF to replace the hard drive and I have ordered the recap kit and WB 3.1.4 rom and disks. I will need to 3D print some case repair clips as ALL of mine are broken.
I love the Amiga. I use my A1200/HD40 every day.. A nice tip for the keys is to take a photo of the keyboard before you start pulling the key caps.. Great video as always.
you have a knack for these restoration vids, should be a regular thing. Here's to more of these, plsssssssss!
Nice work! Reminded me of all the times I used to open up my old A1200
I'd remove the membrane from the underside of keyboard - You don't want any moisture working into it. Trust me it happens, it happened to me restoring an a1200! I had to mess around fixing the conductive traces. Good job! Its great fun saving old machines.
I agree. I only clean with soap & water and get noticeable results. I haven't taken the plunge (no pun intended) with retrobrighting yet.
I just got my MiSTer on Monday. I love it, it's my first time ever using the Amiga on it, and it's so amazing. I'm wanting to mount one in a case like the Amiga, I found a design that works and is similar looking and lets me throw my own keyboard in.
I love all your videos but Amiga has a special place in my heart.
For those interested, the MisterFPGA project supports the MiniMIG core, which means extremely accurate Amiga hardware-level emulation.
Can I suggest a recap? Last month I recapped an A1200 which had caps that looked okay. But C236 and C239 looked fine and leaked anyway, causing corroded pads which are a pain to clean.
The worst I ever had was a mainboard of a Yamaha electronic piano. This was made in the same era and had brown gunk all over the caps. It took me a while to recap (all 45 of them), but the damage was done. Traces were gone and the green protection layer was eaten away by electrolyte. So, anyway, recap the bastard 🙂
Welcome back to MVG's Digital Basement.
Let's get right to it!
3:30 that tune is a banger
I made my first renders on unexpanded A600 with 2MB of RAM with Real 3D 1.4. I Remember rendering a scene for 6 hours...
This influenced me to work nowadays as 3D artist on HP Z800 workstation with 48 GB of RAM rendering some scenes for 4 hours in Vray ;)
I still have those renders from Amiga in the cloud to don't loose them :) and I feel so much nostalgia every time I see A600 :)
MVG, please make more videos about Amiga!
The Amiga will live on forever
maybe the Amiga will overtake the PC oneday.
@@CathrineMacNiel too bad all the new amigas are so expensive :(
Ah the good old days turican and cannon fodder for me miss them games so bad
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This really makes me wanna get my old A600 and clean it up and upgrade it.. There is just something satisfying about playing on the old machines..
Take out the caps now even if you're not ready to replace them. They're guaranteed to leak and corrode the mainboard eventually.
You should point out that capacitors on A600 and A1200 as A4000 NEEDS to be replaced no matter how nice they look. It is well known that caps made in those years have low quakity, and they leak. For example board of A600 that I have looked great, but I decided to replace caos anyway. I gave it to my friend to do it (he is professional) and proces ended up fixing traces that SMD caps ate beneath that black plastic bottom which hides the damage they do.
That is simething every newer model of Amiga owner should do first in 2021.
Amiga: I'm all clean again!
Floppy disk drive: WRYYYY!
That Amiga Badge is begging to have its yellowed cellophane removed ;)
The A600 was t first Amiga I ever owned, gave it to my brother after I upgraded to the A1200 & I couldn't believe when I found out he threw it out years later after getting a pc, I would of had it back!
Whilst I do love the insight vids you provide into older gen console coding and emulation; it is really great to see a retro hardware upgrade vid again! I first found your channel years ago while searching for Amiga 500 Agnes 8371 replacement how-to videos - so it's great to see another Amiga hardware vid in recent times.
"And make sure you didn't lose any of the springs..." LMAO I've done that before. Great video brotha!
This was the perfect wholesome nerdy content I needed this morning in the USA.
So happy to see the A600 get some love! And impeccable choice of music, you just made me rewatch Eon :)
When i watch your videos it makes me want to time travel
Just curious, why is the metal shielding useless today? Because we use less over-the-air TV and radio stations?
Someone? I need to know!
I would also like to know
I’ll third that, why ?
This was bugging me too... so I did a bit of research... Turns out the rf shielding is primarily to prevent the device from sending interference to other devices that use radio waves, although it does also protect the device from incoming signals as well as a secondary function... As we don't use any devices that utilize radio frequencies to send pictures or whatever, it's not an issue today... Your unshielded Amiga isn't going to wreck the picture of your neighbors NES that is attached to the tv via the antenna in todays world lol. Most seemingly smart people recommend replacing it however, just to prevent any possible incoming interference, however unlikely... and also because hardcore collectors and such want the shielding to make the unit original and complete.
The shielding is just as important as it ever was. It prevents the computer from interfering with other items and other items from interfering with the Amiga. People remove the shielding and then wonder why they has audio interference issues, etc.
Modern equipment will most often have the plastic case metalized on the inside or thanks to modern simulation tools and multilayer PCBs has been designed to limit RF interference.
At the university where I work we have an entire research unit that works with major international companies on RF interference problems. It is as big an issue today as ever, in fact it is a larger issue as we have 20x the electronic devices in our homes now.
It is also possible for lazy people to the pieces in the Dishwasher without any cleaners. this worked really well and dont damage the pcb´s
As long as you give it a week or so to dry
The cleaners contain anti corrosion (stops your knifes and forks from rusting) so you probably want to use them if your putting a PCB in the dish washer. The drying cycle you probably want to avoid due to the heat and just air dry it. Not that I'd ever had the balls to put a PCB in a dish washer
@@tanuki2k I have done it with an A500+. Removed the old battery, put the case and PCB into the dishwasher on a quick cycle, wash, avoid the drying cycle, rinse manually with isopropyl and dry for a week in the airing cupboard. Put back together and hey presto - a working A500+ clean and sparkly..
Put the keaboard in the dishwasher. No joke. Works like a charm. Works especially great on Heat Sinks with lots of fins you can't reach easily.
i have bought a recaped version from e-Bay. My old Amiga 2000B i have to check this before turning it on. Amiga was one of the best Computers ever made!
Adrian's Digital Basement really made me dislike RF shields so I approve completely on trashing the shield!
Man, there's just something about preserving old hardware that I love. Even if it's hardware that existed before I was born. Only a year in this case, but the point stands! Nice video, I would love to see more of this sort of content.
It's pimp, it's clean, it's Modern Vintage Gamer approved.
This looks incredible!
Two things I thought of:
Isopropyl alcohol seems safer for the keyboard PCB as long as it's 91%+
Cleaning the keycaps and especially their stems is easier with a little straw cleaning brush, especially the stems.
Great video.
MVG is the only reason I get out of bed on Monday AM
Thumbs up for using a screwdriver to pull the keys. I'm doing it in the same way and I've never damaged a single key, because you can apply the force needed to lift the key much more controlled this way than with one of these overrated cap pullers.
Yep! Yellow does not always need retrobrite...could always just be dirty.
This was so satisfying to watch! I was so glad that you were also able to expand its memory and storage space, as well as put a new processor to it!
I loved my amigas! Big regret getting rid of them all those years ago! I started with an A500 then got and external hdd upgrade, and then eventually got an A1200 with external amiga cd drive which was awesome at the time but then my want for a Nintendo 64 got too much so I sold it to put the mk ey towards getting one! I've got the itch to play zool and soccer kid and sensible world of soccer, and one of my favourites (which is on steam) beneath a steel sky point and click! Sooo many other games I could mention! Great video and great resto job!
The first PC I had as a kid, when street fighter 2 came out on it , my house was full of the local kids waiting for their turn
RMC does quite a good A600 series covering restoration and some upgrades. Don't forget to recap - those surface mount caps leak 😬
I still have my A600 from back in the day, it also has added 1MB trapdoor expansion and compact flash card drive. Currently looking at affordable accelerator options.
Furia EC020 is a very affordable and good A600 accelerator. I recommend it over the ACA620EC.
Tip to A600/1200 owners: release the keyboard flat cable by gently lifting the white socket. Never disconnect it by force since it will kill the carbon pads on the cable and ruin your keyboard. I don't know how many times I've seen people doing it.