Thanks bro, appreciate you. It's good Friday. God bless. Never wanted to be that guy but, the light of goodness shines in you. You are already a light. I wonder how much even more someone like you could be
a "find the red dot" meme with 2 pictures of classic's batteries with and without nuke like 'find the 7 differences' could definitly have a place in the background meme patchwork (we all know Brenda loves patchworks)
Even looking at the replay and knowing exactly where it is i still have a hard time seeing it. It just blends in with all the other red dots on the shield battery.
@@jsonkody Not sure if Classic picked the red color, unless he plays with Team colors enabled which is unusual. When observing the game defaults to red and blue, despite the colors that the player picks in the option menu. Most players usually don't pick red for their units because the game's default color scheme for the opponent is red and most players keep it that way, so im guessing classic just didn't see the dot.
Maru doesn't need nukes to land, nukes need him to land, that nuke position was absolutely perfect it hit every unit in that clump better than the Solar nuke incident because at least some of the corrupters survived now Classic has that Maru nuke curse now like Solar truly a new patch note introduction
@@yugonostalgia8961classic has a better nuke detonation placement but Solar's Nuke was more devastating because he was winning and it turned the tides completely when it hits, while Maru was ahead of Classic the entire time and the nuke was just rubbing salt in the wound
Seeing maru build a line of AA turrets, while bringing like 9 SCV's to the front line on auto repair so after each engagement he has a squad to fully reset his units was finally. The most bronze league hero comment section build even what ive said (but use mules build more orbitals). Seeing it in action was fucking oppressive to say to least and knowing other terrans might start copying it is not looking good for anyone else.
1 nuke, 68 supply, from 196 to 128.. god dayum that's brutal (25 kills on the ghost from that nuke) All Tempest, Stalkers are dead only Archons, Mothership and Carrier (and 1 single immortal) is left alive
terran gets their OPest unit nerfed and they just take out another one of their trump cards from their bag o tricks. Balance Council? more like Terran council amirite
@@GatorWinup Because of the Scans it was just impossible. Just have a look to the lost of every Oracle because Maru has more range and these players are too fast. And observers are impossible to put in front of a Terran battle.
Now people will say nukes are OP. But the chances of getting a hit like this is nearly impossible, mostly times is a mistake from the oter player that eats it. Moves the army: loses: 2 cannons and 1 pylon. Gosht killed: zero dmg C'mon, where else could that nuke being launched?
Never gave it a lot of thought, but it really made no sense for WMs to gain cloak by simply having an armory. It's been a long week but I'm struggling to think of another unit that automatically gains an upgrade simply by building a new structure. Also MY GOD THAT NUKE!!! 😮
"Hey Dave" "Hey Bob, what are you doing here? Only one SCV can build a command centre at a time, it's a complex process." "I know, it's strange, but Command said we'd need two SCV's for this job."
Didn't they plan on removing the sea monster from Oceanborne? I'm surprised to see it survived the new patch and is still around to provide a massive distraction
Yeap! This is what puts Maru and Serrral light years appart from any other pro! They don't just use one or two units very good but they use every unit in the same game for different purposes and do it good, they are consistent! They are spell caster specialists!!!
Maru the TPM raiser ever since his fight against Parting where he nuked himself, that badluck probably gave Maru the favor of the Nuke Gods for witnessing that
What if Protoss had an auto-tracking system for Tempests to coordinate which marine they’re targeting, preventing ten of them from targeting the same unit and wasting shots?
I like that the widow mine line is now reminiscent of the Raven's seeker missile of old. Not a perfect fix (I'm not a fan of anything Z or T that would do extra to shields because it feels very biased) but at least at the pro level it's much easier to micro against than it used to be. I'd still love to see EMP lose its damage against shields (goodbye energy is strong already), but baby steps lol
Hey @winterstarcraft I love your comments because you sometimes try to elevate the subject, explaining the possible reasons for the strategy used by the player. There are few narrators who reach this level. At the same time, you are funny and technical.
A potential fix to Protoss splash damage: Make Colossi shorter so air-only units don't counter them. If Phoenixes, Vikings, and Corruptors no longer hit Colossi, other units would have to step up, significantly shaking up the mid and late game meta. Which would be a pleasant change because, you know, Colossi are barely present in the midgame and do not exist in the late game at all.
Honestly i've always been of the opinion that widowmines should do less damage, but lower cd. but i dont know any numbers or anything so its an opinion of ignorance.
To the rant about widow mines - I'd like to mention that so many times they just hurt the Terran player badly, and they are absolutely unreliable as a counter to ling bane. They do well against chargelots but that's about it. Why should a unit that everybody moans about and Terrans hate it no less should be in the game. Give us campaign Firebats and we're good, or give hellbats +1 base armour with "light" tag and it's also fine.
Maru said f. raven after that first attack in game 2. IM on all 3 colossi, and they still survived while his 2 ravens flew way too forward and died 😂 This is why terrans don't like ravens.
Someone will still talk about game balance. Game 2 30:27 It's Maru not a random John from the Ladder: Protoss 6 bases Terran 3 bases ;-). Balance in all things!
Idk maybe that's wrong, i dont play protoss, but colossus feels like it deals basically no damage. You look at army supply during any bio vs colossus and whatever else engagement and at first it looks like they deal lots of damage and terran is about to fucking die, but when the dust settles terran still has half of his army supply and protoss has 2 Gs in the chat.
It's still pretty obvious to me that Terran bio is still OP versus Protoss...The ability to stim/win and drop with medivacs is quite powerful and really hard to play against...It's entertaining to watch, BUT even before watching the series you already know that Terran most likely wins this matchup which makes it less interesting...Looking forward to the next patch!
@@benismann Agreed... Protoss has to do major damage early on or it's gg... There's really no other feasible way which makes it all predictable and easier to counter when you know it's coming...
Measured comment in the general direction of the new patch creators: You ___rds! You -beep-beep ___beep! I hold you personally responsible for the fact that the Protoss lost!
SPOILER SHIELD:
NUKE Timestamp below read more (if you need instant gratification ;)
NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED - 17:00
Thanks for watching ;)
Thank you, Winter! For the name of my new metal band, "marginal choking".
Thanks bro, appreciate you. It's good Friday. God bless. Never wanted to be that guy but, the light of goodness shines in you. You are already a light. I wonder how much even more someone like you could be
a "find the red dot" meme with 2 pictures of classic's batteries with and without nuke like 'find the 7 differences' could definitly have a place in the background meme patchwork (we all know Brenda loves patchworks)
Even when you know where the nuke dot is it's almost impossible to see. That's fucked up LOL. If Classic's color wasn't red he might've seen it.
That is the juiciest nuke I have ever seen!
OMG. He pointed the dot on the red part of the shield battery!!!
And Classic thought the Storm handled the nuke. 😂
Even looking at the replay and knowing exactly where it is i still have a hard time seeing it. It just blends in with all the other red dots on the shield battery.
why he pick the red color .. noooooo .. xDDDD
Classic mistake :D
@@jsonkody Not sure if Classic picked the red color, unless he plays with Team colors enabled which is unusual. When observing the game defaults to red and blue, despite the colors that the player picks in the option menu. Most players usually don't pick red for their units because the game's default color scheme for the opponent is red and most players keep it that way, so im guessing classic just didn't see the dot.
@aaabatteries9948 This should be correct. He was probably playing with a different color.
He could hear it coming however...
Classic is just helping solar feel less alone now.
Nukes can happen to anyone.
Maru has unleashed game-ending nukes on Solar, Classic, and himself. Zerg, Protoss, and Terran - all three SC2 races!
"Some of my best friends are terran" lol.
Thats out of pocket af lol
The selling point of the WinterStarcraft channel for me is when the caster names the units like Brenda and Dave.
18:00' it isn't the end of the world right here ' 40 sec later😅 is Armageddon
Widow mine ... a bitch unit
Vikings historically countered by storms....
I do love your casts winter
omg, i totally missed that vikings line..
Took me 5 rewinds to see the dot tho :D
10:02 friendly fire on carrier. 😂. Captain of the carrier must have slept with the tempest fleet commander’s wife.
"Carrier?! I hardly know her!"
Maru doesn't need nukes to land, nukes need him to land, that nuke position was absolutely perfect it hit every unit in that clump better than the Solar nuke incident because at least some of the corrupters survived
now Classic has that Maru nuke curse now like Solar
truly a new patch note introduction
I never thought we'd see a nuke more devastating that Solar's... I stand corrected
@@yugonostalgia8961classic has a better nuke detonation placement but Solar's Nuke was more devastating because he was winning and it turned the tides completely when it hits, while Maru was ahead of Classic the entire time and the nuke was just rubbing salt in the wound
Seeing maru build a line of AA turrets, while bringing like 9 SCV's to the front line on auto repair so after each engagement he has a squad to fully reset his units was finally. The most bronze league hero comment section build even what ive said (but use mules build more orbitals). Seeing it in action was fucking oppressive to say to least and knowing other terrans might start copying it is not looking good for anyone else.
"... taking a nuke to the face is never good for your health." (Winter 2024).
CITATION NEEDED
1 nuke, 68 supply, from 196 to 128.. god dayum that's brutal (25 kills on the ghost from that nuke)
All Tempest, Stalkers are dead only Archons, Mothership and Carrier (and 1 single immortal) is left alive
terran gets their OPest unit nerfed and they just take out another one of their trump cards from their bag o tricks. Balance Council? more like Terran council amirite
Why didn't Classic have observers? The Oracle was killed, revelation was static and fading. He knew there was nukes earlier. And still no detection?
@@GatorWinup Because of the Scans it was just impossible. Just have a look to the lost of every Oracle because Maru has more range and these players are too fast. And observers are impossible to put in front of a Terran battle.
Now people will say nukes are OP. But the chances of getting a hit like this is nearly impossible, mostly times is a mistake from the oter player that eats it.
Moves the army: loses: 2 cannons and 1 pylon.
Gosht killed: zero dmg
C'mon, where else could that nuke being launched?
@@jaytea6516 I heard all members of zhe council come from terra.
Never gave it a lot of thought, but it really made no sense for WMs to gain cloak by simply having an armory. It's been a long week but I'm struggling to think of another unit that automatically gains an upgrade simply by building a new structure.
Also MY GOD THAT NUKE!!! 😮
"Hey Dave"
"Hey Bob, what are you doing here? Only one SCV can build a command centre at a time, it's a complex process."
"I know, it's strange, but Command said we'd need two SCV's for this job."
i had to rewind that 8 times to see that dot
Didn't they plan on removing the sea monster from Oceanborne? I'm surprised to see it survived the new patch and is still around to provide a massive distraction
Being partially responsible for widow mine nerfs has earned you a lifetime of likes from me... but I was probably gonna do it anyway.
I was watching this game yesterday and was like yea… winter is going to cast this series immediately 😂😂
Thats why you dont play red color. |Maru put the nuke in the shield battery corner, witch is red color :D
Yeap! This is what puts Maru and Serrral light years appart from any other pro! They don't just use one or two units very good but they use every unit in the same game for different purposes and do it good, they are consistent! They are spell caster specialists!!!
Glad I caught it live for once, I live for moments like that nuke
@17:10 to all those who wants a quick peek at the nuke.
Perfect timing to zoom in for the thumbnail. It's just beautiful
i am so glad there's protoss in the thumbnail, so i know it's not another Solar.
next patch: changed nuke red dot to RGB dot to make it more noticeable against a variety of backgrounds and building colours.
im red green color blind and they really need to have an option to change its color. its so dumb to make it only red
@D4rkKi11er honestly, I'm surprised they don't for accessibility. Have you said anything on the forums?
Even when Dark is not playing, he gets mentioned and Protoss built a shrine to him. I don't have a point. Just mentioning it.
Winter thx you for marking the video with the new patch info.😊
Maru the TPM raiser ever since his fight against Parting where he nuked himself, that badluck probably gave Maru the favor of the Nuke Gods for witnessing that
Is Jimmy real? Is his name James? Can we see him? So many questions...
I'm 90% sure Winter is just keeping the joke running that James Raynor was in the booth with him from years ago...
I'm real, but I don't know why he calls me Jimmy. we've been working together for years, but I don't think he knows my name.
Jimmy Is the Voice in his head and the Moderator
Are you real ? Are you for real ? It is all for a show . Noobie 🤣😂
@@UltramarineDadare you him 😂
47:00 Love you Winter! You do make my day better, thank you for that!!
I cant` see the dot. It`s somewhere on that shield battery?
What if Protoss had an auto-tracking system for Tempests to coordinate which marine they’re targeting, preventing ten of them from targeting the same unit and wasting shots?
Not the most exciting thumbnail a Protoss can see, but here we go.
17:15 winter, you are amazing sir!!! as always ty for your hard work and dedication!!! glhf fam
Things that go ⚡☄️⚡
BOOM
Cheers Winter 🥶❄️🥶
I like that the widow mine line is now reminiscent of the Raven's seeker missile of old. Not a perfect fix (I'm not a fan of anything Z or T that would do extra to shields because it feels very biased) but at least at the pro level it's much easier to micro against than it used to be. I'd still love to see EMP lose its damage against shields (goodbye energy is strong already), but baby steps lol
wish there was a cam on classic on that nuke hit
That nuke @ 17|16, so EPIC
Ive watched alot of Pro SC2. Ive seen some ok nukes. This is by far the most effective Nuke Ive ever seen in a pro level.
winttersc: it isn´t the end of the world(a few minutes later)Maru nuke every thing xD.
Hey @winterstarcraft I love your comments because you sometimes try to elevate the subject, explaining the possible reasons for the strategy used by the player. There are few narrators who reach this level. At the same time, you are funny and technical.
Loved the nuke and how quick Maru pounced once it landed.
Big ups love watching Maru
"a nuke to the face cant be good.. citation needed"
God I missed that fusion core sound.
"terrans dont have shields"
marines do get a shield tho :)
at 10.02 Classic almost killed his own carrier with the tempest. what a misslick A move :D
Good to see TVP is just as miserable for protoss as always
"How many obbitals does he have? 21..."
WTF
"...turrets and 7 orbital"
You gave me a heart attack right about there
never would I think to see such a massive nuke go off in top plays lol
A potential fix to Protoss splash damage: Make Colossi shorter so air-only units don't counter them.
If Phoenixes, Vikings, and Corruptors no longer hit Colossi, other units would have to step up, significantly shaking up the mid and late game meta. Which would be a pleasant change because, you know, Colossi are barely present in the midgame and do not exist in the late game at all.
I am always so confused when I open a video and it's not dark
A mothership can handle a direct hit from a nuke??? As can carriers?
Has the nuke been nerfed?
One of these days, I’m gonna find out who this mysterious ‘Jimmy’ is😂
Classic is never going to live that one down.
Got crazy when I saw this I wish you were doing the casting.
Why? 17:00
Classic didn’t see the dot at all
P.s. was nice to watch these matches
Any patch that nerfs the Widow Mine is a good patch. Don't care that they buffed every other terran unit, it's a small price to pay
always make my day better
What a nuke! That is up there with the best nukes of all time, nevermind just this year.
Honestly i've always been of the opinion that widowmines should do less damage, but lower cd. but i dont know any numbers or anything so its an opinion of ignorance.
17:04 Nuke
That was so satisfying!
i propose to grant maru the duke em nuke em title
This brings back memories of the Maru vs Solar nuke lol
Winter is:
1/3 Terran
1/3 Brenda
1/3 2nd Pylon
I normally hate Terran gameplay but Maru is the only one that I really like his matches. Hes a really great Terran player....unlike others.
Oppenheimer would be proud
Bring back the Archon Toilet
SC2's dot must be microscopic because I cant see shit
5min17sec into the video, but i already know that it is going to be a wonderful 40 minutes of my life. Thx Зима
Maru: "BOMBARDMENT"
To the rant about widow mines - I'd like to mention that so many times they just hurt the Terran player badly, and they are absolutely unreliable as a counter to ling bane. They do well against chargelots but that's about it. Why should a unit that everybody moans about and Terrans hate it no less should be in the game. Give us campaign Firebats and we're good, or give hellbats +1 base armour with "light" tag and it's also fine.
Let's frigging Go!! My day is always better watching 🎉
Maru said f. raven after that first attack in game 2. IM on all 3 colossi, and they still survived while his 2 ravens flew way too forward and died 😂
This is why terrans don't like ravens.
Someone will still talk about game balance. Game 2 30:27 It's Maru not a random John from the Ladder: Protoss 6 bases Terran 3 bases ;-). Balance in all things!
This must be what it feels like to come home to find that your wife has tossed all your stuff onto the lawn and changed the locks.
Idk maybe that's wrong, i dont play protoss, but colossus feels like it deals basically no damage. You look at army supply during any bio vs colossus and whatever else engagement and at first it looks like they deal lots of damage and terran is about to fucking die, but when the dust settles terran still has half of his army supply and protoss has 2 Gs in the chat.
Oh man that game one. Kind of wish the big nuke hit wasn't spoiled.
Look out Solar Classic is comming for you.
i turn away when i see mass viking vs mass protoss air lol. you know how that will end. Protoss is so easily countered.
you might just turn off as soon as u see TvP
Solar can now smile in his dream knowing someone else ate a bigger nuke than him 🤣
2:37 Maru attacks his reaper with his cyclone..yucky
Lesson learned. Do not play as a red protoss when fighting a terran.
Maru admired Classic's spirit, but wanted to put the poor man out of his misery, and so he did!
Most supply I've ever seen lost in 5 second period ...
Classic just got Solared nuke..
It's still pretty obvious to me that Terran bio is still OP versus Protoss...The ability to stim/win and drop with medivacs is quite powerful and really hard to play against...It's entertaining to watch, BUT even before watching the series you already know that Terran most likely wins this matchup which makes it less interesting...Looking forward to the next patch!
it becomes painful to watch pretty quickly. Literally could skip to the next game after 1nd engagement unless protoss wins somehow
@@benismann Agreed... Protoss has to do major damage early on or it's gg... There's really no other feasible way which makes it all predictable and easier to counter when you know it's coming...
Measured comment in the general direction of the new patch creators: You ___rds! You -beep-beep ___beep! I hold you personally responsible for the fact that the Protoss lost!
I’m here for the time warping. Literally me watching Netflix
Do those hearthstone cards actually apply i cant really tell, but that'd be a neat mutator
Man idk how a protoss can deal with Vikings like that.
That was the best nuke I have ever seen in sc2.
is there a Jimmy in the Background?? Or is it Fake ?
Tempest should do splash damage.
What did he mean by that @ 46:50 ?
The nuke was epic but that second game win from Classic was awesome
What a crazy 2nd game!