Getting a leaf unstuck when it is unfurling | What to do if a leaf is stuck in the cataphyll
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Do you plants leaves get stuck in the cataphyll when they are trying to emerge?
In this video I dive into the topic of what to do when the leaf gets stuck but also some things that are best avoided in order to not have disappointment further down the line
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Great tips! And I agree: Don't touch. And even if a leaf does die, it will push out a new one it its place. But... Hear me out. I was struggling with leaves getting stuck. Here's what I did: Increased humidity, I water the plants more often with less water for consistent moisture uptake, installed fans for movement, and then: In in my plant room, I have roundabout 14 grow lights. And I have timed them to go on one after another, with about 10-15 minutes delay, from east to west. And I turn them off in the same order. My idea was to replicate the rising and setting sun, causing the plants to follow the light. That adds additional movement and makes it easier for the new leaves to emerge. I don't know if I just got lucky or if it is really helping, but I haven't had any leaves got stuck since.
Amazing set up I love the replicating nature with the sun cycle, I am sure it had some effect with the phototropism 👍👍👍👍🌞🌞🌞
PS: That watering regime I only use when they are having issues. Otherwise I water properly, as in letting a substrate dry out appropriately.
@@Houseplantygoodness It's just that I never hear anyone talking about it. To me it is a no-brainer, but then again, I am quite the intuitive plant parent. LOL. And intuition isn't exactly science.
Great idea!!!
Anyone else watching this video while freeing trapped ppp leaves? 👀
Hahaha I know this comment is from 8 months ago but my ppp and I are feeling it rn
Just snapped one off yesterday lol
Hahahah me!
Was thinking about doing it to my PPP at the moment. Lol. Not doing it tho.
Mine snapped lol Three leaves RIP
My "young" philodendron Veracosum had a new leaf coming out, and the tip of the new leaf dried up which wouldn't allow the leaf unfurl. So I cut off the dried part, and helped it unfurl the leaf. Now I have a nice new leaf. It stayed in the cataphil for sooooo long, that I finally had to do something. I believe if I didn't cut off the dead crusty tip, then it would not have ever come out. I believe the leaf would have continue to dry out and die. So I'm glad I did what I did. But I understand the reason for the message.
My leaves that get stuck are philodendron silver sword, philodendron pink princess, and pothos. Very dry in my house with wood heat. I spray the stuck leaf and have pulled them out. So far so good.😊
Well, saw this video exactly 2 days too late🤣. Have had plants for 26 years, have literally NEVER seen this, until recently gifted a PPP for xmas. It happened on 2 different areas on the plant. 2 days ago I gently & slowly pulled 1 of them out, lol. Oops. I left the other because I wasn't sure I had enough room to be able to get it. I have a plant room w/near greenhouse environment, I can't think of a single reason this plant is doing this. I don't trust the PPP, although it was a very thoughtful gift, I never wanted 1. I have other philodendrons & STILL have never seen a plant do this before. Wonder if it's just yet another issue with ppp. 🤷♀️. Great video, thank you!
I never thought about why my alocasia loses a leaf when a new one comes in - now I know to give it "a touch more water". Thank you!!!
I know this is an old video but i found it because i had a leaf of my little philodendron silver sword that was/seemed stuck for a few days already. I'm pretty new to plants. So I was trying to find out what to do... well the thing to do is to watch this video because after finishing it, i went to look at my plant and the leaf was free!! 😀
Had a giggle when you said pink princess, exactly the reason I found your video
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I wish I'd left the stuck leaf alone until I'd watched this video. I just brought my first philodendron home 5 days ago. I may need to get a second humidifier
I just found your channel and am enjoying your content, very knowledgeable and concise. This is the first time I have seen this issue addressed. I have a Calathea Orbifolea that has had a new rolled up leaf in limbo for at least 3 months or more. It looks fine, it just won’t unfurl. There have been a number of other leaves that have come in with no problem. I will try more humidity as was suggested. Thanks for the tips. Hope it works🤞
Thank you for this video! I have a beautiful Red Secret (Alocasia Cuprea ) and it was in the process of putting a new leaf HOWEVER the leaf has become “stuck” exactly as you demonstrated and I was almost going to try and “ease” it out! Your video stopped me 😁So now I have just increased the humidity but changing its position and hopefully that will help. 💕
The one thing that has worked for me every time is to spray the stuck leaf close as to wet it without wetting the whole plant. I do this twice a day. My silver sword is notorious for getting stuck, I have never had any issues doing it. I also spray the leaf once a day as it unfurls until it is fully unfurled and this prevents weird warping of the shape. It can then expand and grow in it's normal shape. It is the main PITA when dealing with this species, but it is fixable.
I'm having this issue with my silver sword as well, which is why I found this video. I'll have to give this a try! How often do you spray it while they're stuck?
My variegated syngonium albo actually had this issue recently! I was shocked to see it on that particular plant because I am used to it happening mostly to philodendrons.
This is happening to me now! 😭 did it unfurl on its own?
BTW I think Philodendrons that have a moss pole(a real moss pole which is kept moist at all times and plant can grow roots in the pole), rarely do this, even the varieties that usually face this problem a lot.
Helpful...thanks. VIEWER REQUEST: Can you do a video on how to make a large plant small again? Example: Eighteen months ago I had a Philo Billietiae with 4-inch leaves, now they are monster-size, as are some of my other plants. I need to get them small again, and I don't see any babies springing forth. Also if I have a large plant and want to make small plants to share, how is this done? Most of my plants are Philos and they get big, some with very large leaves and thick stems. Thanks!
I must be the exception, cuz I’ve hadn’t seen this before on my plants. I’m watching to learn in case it does. Thank you for your info! I’ve learned a lot watching your vids.
So helpful, I have tried to "help leaves open on my ficus before and had damage on the leaf that I thought was from insects. Thank you so much for this video.
This has been happening to my Syngonium pink splash. Just accidentally tore up the tip of the new leaf on her yesterday. It always just looks like it only needs a slight tug and it always seems to tear. Thanks for adding to my data for resistance to "helping" haha. Nature always knows better.
Yep totally agree with you Memo about semi-hydro. I have ALL of my plants in semi-hydro, either in pon or LECA and when they run out I use just pumice cos it's readily available near me) and all of my philos including the Pink and White Princesses don't have that issue . Each to their own I guess 🤷🏻♀ Thanks for the advice...👍🏼
What has worked with me for my Philos and Colocasia is to wrap a piece of wet kitchen towel around the stuck leaf and usually the localized humidity has been enough to release the leaf.
The plant I struggle the most with getting leaves stuck is my el choco. I find the sheath around new leaves to be super tough.
definitely pink princess 😩😩
I live in a dry climate and put a little plastic baggy on the leaf that is trying to unfurl. I don't close up the baggy so there's air flow. I've only done this for my gloriosum and find the leaf opens up faster and undamaged. I do remove the baggy every now and then to air out completely and put it back on. Again. I live in a drier climate in the southwest USA so not sure if this would work elsewhere.
Just remembered I've done this for my newest Florida ghost leaf also and it worked.
I also heard that some philodendron species use cataphylls as a way to unfold in nature. When a new leaf is emerging, the cataphyll rots away from moisture and it sort of lubricates the new leaf coming out.
Occasionally, my monstera adansonii will struggle unfurling, but comes out unscathed if I turn on the humidifier:)
before Pink Princess, I had these issue with three other plants:
Philodendron Black Cardinal. all three recent leaves were stocked and never managed to unfurl those. then I figured out he hates when I let his soil dry completely and solved his problem by watering more frequently.
the second one was a pink Syngonium. she had seven or eight unfurled leaves! then I figured out her pot is too small for her roots. I repotted her in a huge pot and she's very happy since then.
third one, was a Philodendron Silver Sword. he never had this problem until I saw lower leaves are yellowing and the soil stays wet for too long. he was very close to root rot. I repotted her in a very chunky soil and she managed to finally open that leaf. it's just slightly damaged.
Love this. Very informative! Not a lot of fluff, to the point but still charming.
I’ve heard that philodendrons can have a mucus that is too sticky in lower humidity, and spraying the emerging leaf helps with ripping. I’ve tried it with my gloriosum, and the leaves are fairly unmarked
This happens to my Florida Beauty several times, about 4 or 5 pots with one plant having the same problems on its 4th and 6th leaves. The petiole would snap if you leave it and the leaf will eventually die.
I have since monitored other Florida Beauty and helped the leaves out of the cataphyl before they also snap and that seems to be the only solution I can think of.
I have several theories and one of them is because I use grow lights in the evening (20 hrs full light a day) thus forcing the new leaf to outgrow the cataphyl (as opposed to crisping/browning) that has not withered.
I have to agree. The only way to save the leaf is to help it out of the cataphyl. Even with a chance to damage the leaf, "do nothing" (as suggested in the video) will 100% lead to the leaf snapping off, which would be the worst outcome anyway.
So that is very interesting about alocasia so when it starts trying to push out new leaf how much moisture should you give this plant? I was told don't water until moisture meter reads 3 but the humidity in my house struggles to get above 50 this time of year
Just did one this morning. It was damaged and trying to unfurl through the small damaged hole rather than the natural opening.
It was going to come out damaged regardless, so I figured I'd give it a shot, and cut it off if it doesn't come out right.
So I released my monstera new stem that was growing I noticed the top of where the leaf comes out felt empty! I am guilty I did release it and it popped out but it was leafless looked like it was a deformity just a stumpy little stem with a stringy brown bit on the top. HOWEVER. A new leaf was growing from the stump that I released! Why is this. I do believe the sheath got damaged earlier this year I had some thrip damage.
I’ve sprayed my PPP once a day with water 😭 I didn’t know. I’ve seen a lot of people do that with a new leaf. I will stop doing that. The leaf has came in fairly fast. It’s been almost a week and it’s almost out.
I usually don’t have any issues with this happening to my philodendron’s, except an older Rugosum, it’s pups not at all, just the mother plant. All planted in same substrate, same humidity and lighting.
Rather than spraying the cataphyll I will wrap it with a warm wet cloth. It usually solves the problem pretty quickly. The best fix was moss poles and having a little humidifier next to the finicky plants.
I have a Gloriousum that constantly gives me torn leaves. I tried misting it, pulling the leaf out too to no avail. What does work ito CAREFULLY use a toothpick or something small with a sharp point and at the stem of the leaf where it’s folded over to insert the tip of the TP in and slowly run it the length of the leaf lifting up as not to puncture the leaf. Repeat this on the other side. This loosens the tense on the leaf and in 2-4 days the new unblemished leaf is opening up before your eyes. I have done this on my Verrucosum too and it works for me.
I don't mean to contradict this guy but, I wonder if everyone says it's humidity or watering just because it seems like the logical answer. Has anyone actually tested this? My Melanochrysum grows on an irrigated moss wall. The humidity is generally high. The Melanochrysum is actually dripping, because its releasing excess water. However it still gets its leaves stuck.
I live in the UK, where it gets quite cold. But the room I keep my plants in is heated. I noticed that the leaves come out unstuck when the room is warm, if I crack the window and the temperature drops, They get stuck again. I know heat affects humidity, so it's hard to know exactly. But I think warmth has more of a role. The verrucousum that lives next to it never has a problem, probably because it's adapted to colder weather.
Definitely having this problem with my PPP plant. I already pulled out the leaf. It was blocking another leaf from emerging and quite deformed. .i was told if I leave it could damage the plant over all
I have a bird of paradise with three stems. It is outdoors and one stem has its leaves stuck REGULARLY. They just won't get out completely and will start to unfurl with the tip still inside the mother leaf. Even a new leaf may grow from a stuck leaf and will get stuck too, making a mess. So i have to get them out myself, although it wouldn't avoid the stem from doing this.
The other two stems are in the same conditions (essentially the same plant) but they haven't done this thing ever, so I suspect it may be due to other reasons.
I gave my aunt a philodendron birkin and it grew so much and it had a uncurling leaf that was stuck and the interesting thing is that the uncurling leaf was making a baby leaf so she had a leaf that wasn’t even uncurled that made a baby leaf. I was amazed and I tried to help the leaf unfold but i broke both of them, I still feel sorry.
After many years of seeing such trouble with some of my philodendrons and anthuriums I came to conclusion that the root of this problem is in a moving air. Those plants are located exactly on the way of air stream from heating/cooling system. I did not find a universal solution. Right now I have a huge vertical fan to send it's air across the heating stream and a humidifier a little bit under the cross point. It is better but not a 100%.
I have used recently tried using a bag around a stuck leaf with my philodendron silver sword and that seemed to do the trick. I was wondering if this tends to happen with philodendron’s in a more juvenile form (my silver sword is quite juvenile and new to me) or is this something you can struggle with in plants at all stages?
My new, and juvenile, Silver Sword also has 2 stuck leaves. Wish I watched this before because I broke one :(
I've been having this problem with the cataphil drying out and the leaf not being able to come out on my philodendrons, El Choco Red, splendid, and curly leaves on my pink princess.
i have this weird new leave bending on my monstera adensonii, but it always is able to get out of the stem and grow
My plowmanii is juvenile so still uses the petiole sheath and the last leaf that came out has a hole in it from the petiole bursting through. Tryna prevent that from happening to one now so I'ma help it :p.
This has happened three times to my philodendron cardinal and the two times I didn’t catch it to help it, the leaves have snapped off before they could get out so she’s a little odd looking right now
My new leaf fell off because it was stuck so long. I didn't touch it. It was a bud for about a month :(
a month ago I purchased a Philodendron Pink Princess. right now it seems she's trying to open three new leaves at the same time and all of them seem to be stocked and this freaks me out. unfortunately my humidifier is broken. the moisture meter's sensor is right above her leaves and it's in 55-65% which I think is too low. I'm trying to not let her soil completely dry and once a day I mist water on her(I can't stop myself from doing that. I feel that's the only thing I can do right now). I wish these help her open her new leaves without problem.
I got tired of my imperial queen doing this, even when I left the stuck leaves alone they'd just end up dying in there. Mine was getting bright indirect light, the room it was in was at 65-70% humidity, good chunky mixture, and I just ended up throwing it out. It looked so bad in the end and just stopped growing new leaves. There were no pests or diseases either. It was the only Philo I've ever had and I'm never getting another. Alocasia's are easier to deal with than a Philo 😑
Thank you!!!!
after 1 week of a stuck leaf I wrap a warm wet paper towel for 20min and usually by the third day its out
YEAH, thanks a lot for this video! :D
No problem 😊 glad you enjoyed 👍
My silver sword is doing this, 2 small SS plants growing in the same pot. They both have leaves that are stuck, they are fully emerged except for the tip. The big problem is that in the bigger plant, it has a stuck leaf, stayed stuck so long that it grew a full sized leaf out of it, which is ALSO stuck. Then that one is beginning to put out the first bit of another leaf. What am I supposed to do? I am trying to leave it alone, today I drenched the leaf by just pouring water on them a couple times, we'll see what happens. I don't want to wait and lose 3 leaves in a row! 4 if you count the other SS with the stuck leaf. I had this issue with my prince of orange and they just never unfurled and died.
What isthe species of the plant on the right? Lupinum?
Hello there. So I have a purple sword Alocasia… and I did it… I tried to help the leaf come out and I actually snapped the new leaf from the plant😢😢 Will my plant be able to push out a new leaf eventually. I know that with the Alocasia the new leaves come out from the previous leaf. Help please thNAk you!!!
Good morning, I have a pothos that was given to me that is now growing giant leaves. I have it growing up the the wall but as of recently the leaves are turning yellow in some spots and a new growth is having a hard time unraveling. I'm not sure anymore how to care for this one plant. I have others that are doing amazing but this one is the only one with giant leaves. Any advice would be great
I’m a pull the leaf out kinda girl.. ugh. 😂This was great, thank you so much, I have 2 philodendron that consistently have stuck leaves, I have messed with humidity and light but never with watering! Who knew?? 💜
Did nothing and it snapped... lol
So…random question related to pon. I’m new to semi hydro. I tried leca - but i think I’m too impatient for that lol! How high in the container do you keep a water reservoir for pon??
So funny you mentioned Pink Princess in this video.
Every leaf on my Pink Princess has had this issue.
The last leaf I actually pulled out 😬 but it was ok. No damage or anything 😅
Moving forward, I’m just going to leave it alone and let it do it’s thing.
Cool video 👊🏼
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The only thing that has consistently worked for me is spraying the sheath
Yeah, I do that and it sometimes works, too. And I actually don't quite understand the risk of rot he mentioned. In the rainforest it is wet all the time, right? And water evaporates after spraying within minutes, there won't be any rot, right? I dont know why this should be so risky to do.. but yeah, look at his plants... :D
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