Rubycon style sequencer riffs using 960 sequencer
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2020
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Just a quick demo of how to create Tangerine Dream style sequences from Rubycon part 1 - I was always perplexed how the faster riff was created before I got the 960 and realised Chris Franke was switching in 3rd row control of timing on the last 4 steps of a 6 note sequence for that bit. This is definitely how this sequence was produced - you can feel and hear it...around 10.20 minutes in on rubycon side one the button is pressed. I have yet to find a way of syncing this cv controlled clock in this specific mode as master or slave to or from other devices - any advice from pro modular users?
I think 3rd row control of timing is a unique fly by pants solo performance maybe and not syncable to a master clock like I use for my main setup? They yearned for accurate tuning and synchronisation back in the 70s but were more adventurous than us today.
Here is a more recent example of this riff and technique
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Here is Rick Wakeman talking about his rig and some minimoogs I serviced for him in 2016
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Here is the same sequence in a new setting
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Bloody love analogue synths. Rubycon was 1st vinyl LP I ever bought back in 70s - I could listen to the sequencer sections forever...
A great album, but my all-time Tangerine Dream favorite is Ricochet :-)
RUBYCON and Phaedra were the first Tangs albums I bought, 1975-1976. Along with Tomita, Vangelis, and many others, the exploration of electronic/ space rock was on!
Yes I bought those and still have the vinyl records which my kids will put in the bin when I kick the bucket... Live every minute of every day and making people laugh is the only way.
Encore LP was my first TD album, then Ricochet
Just so love Rubycon, cant believe its 50 years old!
Rubycon will always be the music of tomorrow.
So, I set out to emulate Franke using Cherry Audio's Miniverse Moog vst and Devicemeister's Stepic sequencer and I'm totally lost. But the visuals here have unlocked it for me. What a guy is Chris Franke, using odd-numbered steps for these sequences. Really appreciate you sharing this. It's been fun to copy.
Polyrhythms.
Love this!
Brilliant! Chris Franke total!
Thank you!
Fab! That was a lesson! I understood what you were doing with the sequencer and how to get those TD style effects. Thank you so much. This is now on my shopping list!
My pleasure - I had been waiting for decades to learn how to recreate this style affordably.
What an amazing Sequencer!!! Especially the step divider! 💖
Yes although I would describe it as a step multiplier as what is happening is that when in the 3rd row control mode the internal voltage controlled oscillator is doubling in speed when a pot is at position 1 and I think four times faster at position 2.
This is fvcking AWESOME 🙌
Love that album.
Merveilleux !!!
Sweet. I love that album. Thank you!
Yes Rubycon came out in 1975 when I was 21 so it was very influential to me as I could only buy a few vinyl albums each year whilst working in a game pie factory for around £17 a week in a tiny village in Leicestershire, England.
I have learnt something today - thank you
Very welcome
My 960 / 962 combo is coming in later this week. I can't wait to get these into my rack!
I really like these
So easy but musical.
awesome demonstration--will revisit and check out your other stuff!
Please do!
Brilliant. Thanks.
Glad you liked it!
Very nice!
Thanks!
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I wouldn't have believed how difficult it might be to reproduce this "simple" sequence. I can't even get the pluck sound right.
I usually have the filter cutoff almost closed the resonance off or only on slightly. The envelope amount and the adsr decay is where you find the sweet spot with slight sustain and release to suit the tempo.
so cool
excellent mate!
Many thanks!
Magic!
Finally someone did a video on this! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
When engineers had the ears to adjust the sound
YEAH!....I want one!
I now see how they could have done it without cutting tapes.
Give this guy likes 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Oh yeah
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Wonderful sounding. I purchased a 960, 962 from B. Have issues with the connections to make it work properly with my 2600. How did you patch your 960? I can spot only two connections from the oscillator output with the black wire, then the orange one on the first row. Looks simple enough...
The 960 oscillator out is not high enough voltage to trigger the 2600. Put the 960 osc out into the 2600 preamp and set gain to max and X10 range. Take the preamp out to the S/H clock input and it works ok. Gate and Trig in do not work so well with lower voltages. I just made a new video to show how I connect mine...
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Sounds fantastic! What vco were you triggering?
I think it was a Behringer Model D using Sawtooth waves
Impressive channel and great video! May I ask what notes are used in this sequence?
C2,C3,Bflat2, G2,C2,C3 in various combinations
@@VykaarTones Thank you for answering! I know this is the Rubycon sequence - but in your own tracks, how do you pick notes for these kinds of sequences? What scales, intervals, chords work the best? I have all the elements - the right sequencers, oscillators, filters, reverb, delay, phaser etc. but I'm struggling to get the right selection of notes that sound authentic "berlin school". Again, thanks for answering, I admire your skills and studio.
I just play by ear, don't read music or know many chords - nearly everything I play is in C minor!
@@SuperPedalhead as Vykaar says, choose the notes by ear. That way the selection is emotional and not limited by theoretical restrictions.
Cm is the perfect key to play this kind of music.
What's the rest of this patch? Especially the VCO? Is that Behringer's clone of Moog oscillator? Which waveform gives that "springy" sound?
I think I was using the model D in this video as I didn't get the other 55 modules till later. Probably using sawtooth waves creating a plucky minimoog bass patch.
@@VykaarTones Can the 960 be used on its own, i.e. without other modules?
Can yo tell me where all the cables need to go to get my Doepher Quantizer to work with the 960. I also have the Behringer 100m system, how do I cable this up for the sound to work with sequencer
If you only have a 960 and are using it's internal clock take the CV out from A, B or C to the Quantizer CV in and CV out from there to the CV in on a VCO. Most simply used the Oscillator out from the 960 goes to the gate in on your Envelope Generators. You can also patch the Oscillator out to the Trig in of the Quantizer and the Trig out from there to the gate input of the Envelope Generators but I have not always found that to be needed. You might need multiples to distribute the CV and Gate to other modules. You always seem to get some glitches when quantizing if the voltage is close to the switch point between voltages.
@@VykaarTones Thanks I’ll mess around tonight, gives me a bit of an idea. I managed to get somewhere with the 182 System 100 sequencer last night with my System 100 m setup
Will the 960 produce sound on its own without additional modules?
Not in the way I think you would want - the internal VCO that clocks the steps can go in to the audio range and the pitches generated on the outputs can be voltage controlled using the control input. I don't think many people use it that way and I only use it to control other modules at slower speeds as seen in my videos.
@@VykaarTones Thanks for the reply. So a 960 combined with, say, a Neutron or Model D would be enough. I have a Crave, but that doesn't have 'on the fly' facilities like the 960.
I have a Crave somewhere - stays in tune nicely like the Pro~1 - CEM3340 VCO chips stable from switch on...
Hi, I'm able to send cv and gate from my 960 to a Neutron without any problem but when I try to add a second gate via a Doepfer 180-2 Passive Multiplier so that I can clock the drum track on a 2nd sequencer (Deluge clock in) the drum track plays fine but the Neutron stops. Seems like the 960 is only able to trigger one or the other possibly because the voltage is too low. Could this be the reason and would there be a work around? Thanks
A buffered multiple would probably help as the oscillator out of the 960 is quite low voltage and may be loaded down when feeding two inputs? I mostly use external clocks with my 960s.
@@VykaarTones Many thanks for your reply, I think I'll try an external clock as you suggest.
@@VykaarTones Hi again, I wasn't sure where an external clock would connect to on the 960 so this is how I've gone. 960 CV to Neutron Osc In. 960 Gate out to Neut Env In. Neut Env Out to Multi. Multi Out to Clock In on Drum but while 960 runs sequence drum plays only one beat and stops. So I've taken a gate from an external source (keystep or beatstep pro) to the Multi and now 960 and drum both play in sync with tempo controlled by 960 but not external source as I would expect. Controls on Ext source - stop/start, keys or tempo have no effect and I don't understand what the connection from it to the Multi does (except make it all work and if its disconnected the drums stop). It seems like I've got it working by accident and so not really learning. Would you be able to explain what's happening please. Thanks.
My external clock goes to the 960 shift input but my setup is very complex with clocks being split with buffered multiples, dividers and multipliers. What I am doing may not be the simplest setup for your stuff. I am using a Tubbutec uTune module to extract a divided clock from midi clock to drive the 960s and A-160-5 ratchet controller via a multiple. Gates to my 2600 go via a buffered multiple.
@@VykaarTones I think the answer here is, as you suggested earlier, to get a buffered multiple. I'll order one today and hopefully that'll sort things out for me. Many thanks for your help.
Pitch is a bit off but sounds almost the same.
Probably not correct, sorry :-) More likely is simple layering of a different sequence on multitrack tape. All the sequencing around this period was done in short sections crossfaded and layered, and is a little less complex than it sounds, for this reason. On "Phaedra" there's even a little sequence link which had to be done on bass guitar.
On your MOOG BEHRINGER 960 SEQUENCER - WORLD FIRST USER REVIEW BY "ANALOG SYNTHESIZERS" AUTHOR MARK JENKINS at 5.20 I should point out that control input is not for an external clock but for voltage control of the internal clock
@@VykaarTones You're quite right, not an alternative external clock, an alternative external clock control voltage. Thanks :-) MJ
Still sounds pretty darn good!!
@@MarkJenkinsMusic thank you a lot guys, and please can you tell me how is an approximate setting to sync the 960 to an external clock from like a metropolis or rd-8? thx
I used to have a Metropolis but sold it - I would as a guess connect clock out from the Metropolis to Shift in on the 960 and Sync out to SET in on the the 9th OFF input and tweak clock divider and Sync settings to suit. I can't offer any more advice as I no longer have that device here to test
Good stuff but you might need to clip those nails😂
I play guitar with my thumb and index finger like Jeff Beck, so they are kept long on my right hand.
Edgar Froese ♱ would have been suitably impressed!
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@@VykaarTones it's a way to represent the 8 bit music.