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How do they know that the "Eceini" made these? or that they were Celts? They may have traded others for them, or they may have been Goldsmith of lineage. As DNA has continued to unfold with Ancient DNA studies, Geneticists have validated the fact that the "Tuatha de Dannan" = the "Tribe of Dann" and they very well arrived in Ireland, after departing Egypt, in what is known as the Exodus. (There were multiple tribes of Israel, not just Judaens), and the "Tribe of Dann" went to Greece, then Iberia, and on to Ireland. They were the "Goldsmiths" I hypothesize that these Gold pieces may have been the works of the "Tuatha de Dannan". The "Icini" may have been relatives of the "Tribe of Dann" I know today that the British DNA reflects that the "Males have
An Alternative possibility: How do they know that the "Eceini" made these? or that they were Celts? They may have traded others for them, or they may have been Goldsmith of lineage. As DNA has continued to unfold with Ancient DNA studies, Geneticists have validated the fact that the "Tuatha de Dannan" = the "Tribe of Dann" and they very well arrived in Ireland, after departing Egypt, in what is known as the Exodus. (There were multiple tribes of Israel, not just Judaens), and the "Tribe of Dann" went to Greece, then Iberia, and on to Ireland. They were the "Goldsmiths" I hypothesize that these Gold pieces may have been the works of the "Tuatha de Dannan". The "Icini" may have been relatives of the "Tribe of Dann" I know today that the British DNA reflects that the "Males have
I am 71 now and spent my life in Aerospace Engineering. To me, in my opinion. They knew far more than we think because, they buried the Torq's on separate levels. That to me indicates they knew about what we today call, dissimilar metal corrosion and took care to separate them on different levels to avoid corrosion. It also makes me think, that they were not being discarded because as you would only do that to preserve them for future use. So they were recoverable for the precious metals or maybe some type of ritual use. I do love these video's by the way lol.
I agree. There is a ongoing tradition among tribes worldwide of ceremonial burial of their most treasured items before going to a very hard battle from which they may not return. My belief is these torque represent each family and tribe that is gathered at that spot as an army. The burial is both ceremonial and preservative. They did not make it back to retrieve the items.
I've been in the building trade for 31 years. I look at the megaliths all over the world and think they must have had more technology than we give them credit for. Take stone henge. Recently, they have discovered some of the stone came from northern Scotland. I just can't see primitive people being capable of bringing them all that way. I wonder what these things did. It must have either been very important or pretty easy for them to move these blocks of stone.
She may have ultimately been defeated but she is one of the very few to stand up to the Romans and although it may have cost her tribe dearly, although we cannot be sure, she is the embodiment of the saying that it is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees, all hail the queen ❤️
Why did the Britons, Romans, and various peoples of the ancient world harm non-combatants (unarmed women and children) back then? It seems wrong to me to harm and kill on-combatants no matter who they are. So why did Boudicca and the Britons go after Roman women and children instead of just sending them packing back to Rome, their actions don’t make them any different or better than the Roman army.
@@jmwilliamsartancient times were brutal and no side was innocent of this brutality read up on more history. Not pleasant but that’s the way it was for centuries until relatively recently where brutality is more obfuscated.
@@jmwilliamsart.... methodology. Those that are of foreign influence, origin and hostility to the established Britons were perceived as a threat of not just their way of life through betrayal and brutality, but ultimately, annhialation. So it was that, which was thus meted out to them. However, ironically, it eventually brought the Iceni down. But such a moral code of only attacking combatants is a modern warfare game.
Oh yes it's all very neat and PC to pretend there was equality of brutality, no nation WORSE than any other, but GOOD LUCK trying to make that cutesy-wootsy belief correspond to the real world in the case of Boudicca's GHASTLY atrocities against the civilians of Londinium, good luck trying to find these "Romans and various people of the outside world" cutting off women's breasts and shoving them in their mouths (as Boudicca's "army" did), without going all the way to the Armenian Holocaust in World War 1.
@@freyatilly Tell that to to Putin. Lives of women and children mean zero to him. It seems he's using the same tactic. Kill as many as possible, so it takes much longer to repopulate. 'Scuse me for speaking out of context; but it was the same strategy I saw after reading the comment/s.
Wonderful- I have watched TT since day one- Sunday nights in Canterbury- teacher training degree, only meal I allowed myself in front of a screen- toasted sandwich and a cuppa- a ritual. I feel I have grown up with TT and the knowledge I have gained has helped me teach my primary school children so much more about history. For a brief period in my career, I suffered from depression and anxiety- before taking medication, I truly believe chain watching TT saved my sanity. Thankfully much better now and so I watch TT with sheer joy. I want to thank TT for enriching my life in so many ways.
My aunt is a very well known British archeologist, I have been fascinated, since as a young child, I was allowed to stand at the top of the Canterbury dig with her and look down into the dig itself. I have always wished that I had followed in her footsteps. Have loved TT since the very first episode ☺️
I like the time team program wery mutch with Tony Robinson and the rest of the original crew more. When you have follow a program 20 years its hard to just forgett the show with the old crew.
For me; Philip Harding and Francis Pryor. With Guy de la Bedoyere bringing up the Roman rear-guard. Pryor and Harding are "Deep History" expert professionals. If not for 'Black-Adder' Baldric would be no-where to be seen. Though he is a lovely-horrid-funny little man; bless him and his infuriating trench-hopping.
@@KernowekTim I agree although Sir Tony met Mick on a dig in Greece I believe so had an amateur interest...which is good, he made the archaeologists accountable! I love Francis for his undying enthusiasm
I cast no aspersions anywhere else, but as a long-time (20+ years) fan of Time Team, this is my favorite production from Time Team Official yet. Great job. Encore encore!
I remember watching this episode when it was new. It inspired me to try working with copper wire bought at the local hardware store. Since then I've learned lots of metal working to make jewelry. Only for myself, but it's enormously satisfying. I even like keeping the copper polished.
Just magical. History of our Isles is simply amazing. Educational narrative with Sir TR deploying his incredible, colourful and mesmerising storytelling. Thank Q ❤
It is so wonderful watching all of you digging up history for us!! I have always loved anything on Boudica and their history! Thank you so very much for delving into this more for us!!👏👏👏💯💯💯🙏💖🪶💞✨️💜
I´ve been looking for this one - Boudica is one of my favourite historical figures, so I´m thrilled to see her story explored by my favourite archaeologists :)
This is a great episode. I thought I had seen all the time team episodes but then one of these specials pops up and I get really excited. Being an American who was a teenager when Time Team was originally running I didn’t find out about this fabulous series until 2020 when the pandemic hit and I spent most of that time watching historic documentaries and of course I found Time Team in that period and absolutely fell in love. I had seen Tony Robinson on some other Documentaries before I found Time Team but now he is my favorite presenter and I have watched literally everything I can find of his and I even now have favorite archaeologist like Helen Geake, Matt Williams, Carenza Lewis, Raksha Dave, Brigid Gallagher and of course Francis Pryor and Mick Aston. Plus even favorite specialist like Stewart, John Gater, Henry and my absolute favorite Guy de la Bédoyère. Oh and I can’t forget the cornerstone of the whole series and greatest user of a shovel and trowel ever Phil Harding.
I used to work with precious metals - silver and gold. I think there is a mistake in the explanation for the gold-rich surface of the torques. I believe the surface layer was enriched by repeated heating and "pickling", that is heated to oxidise the copper in the outer surface, then placed in an acid bath of some kind to dissolve away the copper oxide. This process has been used for centuries and I'm pretty sure it was discovered millennia ago.
Thank You For Letting Me See My Old Show FAVORITES!!! Tony, Dr Pryor, & Guy from The Beginning!!! This Is Awesome and I will Not Stop Until The End. I am as Excited about my favorite Educators as I am About This Great Topic!!!! I can't Wait....Must Go Watch!
Saw this so many years ago. Now, re-edited, reshown. I'll rewatch. This was some of the best television a quarter century ago. And how about all the "farm" videos? I may just troll the past. Of course, I'm heading for my mid-seventies. No longer excited by anything new.
Norfolk, England....where my father's paternal ancestors came from, who sailed to America in 1836. I wonder if my great-great grandmother had any Icini ancestry as she had a Celtic name. Rest in Peace, Boudica, brave warrior queen! I admire her courage for standing up to the brutality of the Romans.
🇬🇧 I believe that the battle where Boudica was ambushed was not at Mancetta but just off the Foss way somewhere near Leamington Spa. Also, Hill top restaurant near Leamington Spa is surely a Roman troops lookout. It has views all around and is just off the Foss Way.
My take on the destroyed torques is that they belonged to the dead, never to be worn again by anyone. Great episode! Everyone on Time Team needs to be knighted!
The story of bodicea and her people would make for an excellent history channel movie. She's such an enigma I'd love to learn more about her. ❤I would have to include their rich culture and fierceness and an educated guess as to how she became queen.
There is rarely a mention of the huge hill fort north of Thetford, attributed to the Iceni. The excavation was led by Tony Gregory in the 1980s and must have been a key area after the defeat of Boudicca
Glad Francis Pryor said that . I don’t think it’s a case of Rome ostracising the iceni more a case of the iceni turning their back on Roman ways , they didn’t need that Roman market town they’d got their own
Its absolutely facilitating the history of BRITAN i hated history at school as well but TIME TEAM does history way better you actually see the relics..
I wonder how many people of British descent are descended from the Iceni tribe. I know there is no way to know, but sometimes I wonder what clans my ancestors were in. Where were my ancient British ancestors when all this was going down? Did they fight? On which side? Did the warriors survive the battle or just their children?
It would be interesting to know if DNA studies have been done on any of the Iceni skeletal remains. They could check for Y-DNA and mtDNA, which would give clues to such questions. 25 years ago, the DNA tech was unavailable. Maybe Google around to see if any studies have been done.
I chanced on this when RUclips threw it up on my Home page. The funny thing is that only the other day I wondered what had happened to this show. Interesting because a) I'd never seen it before and b) I don't really have any memory of filming the scenes with Tony at Castor St Edumnds or Colchester (which must have been in 2010). What I mostly remember is breaking my toe on the bed in the hotel at Colchester because it was only about 6 inches narrower than the room I was in, and that the motorcycle I had driven down on had a defective rectifier which had flattened the battery. The content of the show I had totally forgotten.
It sounds like she had just had enough of the Roman oppression. The disgusting mistreatment of her children brought out the mother's rage in her and that's what sparked her to lead the revolt. It was likely the last straw and she just said that's it, we're rising up and striking back. And personally, I'd have done the same. I'd wring out revenge for my children with every drop of blood I could. But I suspect she might have been aware her rebellion wouldn't last; you cannot build and survive on rage alone. It might have started the flames, but you need more than a spark to keep the fire going. Rome was already pretty well organized; that's likely why eventually they were able to overwhelm a fledgling rebellion that didn't really have a plan other than vengeance. But I give the queen all the respect she's due as a leader and mother. Those torques the tribe made are beautiful. Love Time Team; such a great story!
When I was a boy about 1959, the central area was still being deep ploughed by a farmer called 'Bummy' Daniels, and you could, and we boys did (if Mr Daniels didn't catch you,) pick up all sorts of artifacts. I still have a bone playing piece, broken roof tiles and pieces of Samian ware, one with a Roman fingerprint on it!
I've always rather wondered where the gold came from that they made the jewelry from. Who taught them to work it? Always great to see these, I've loved watching the Time Team first finding it during covid and now as a patron of their comeback.
The torqs were broken in a way so there power couldn't be used by the emeny, they didn't have the craftsmen to repair them. A broken treasure is a broken people, anyone local would know that a broken torq the owner came to a sticky end....
I’m going to argue the torcs were broken once the owner died. They didn’t want to be buried with them because they feared someone would come along and despoil the grave, take the torc and claim the authority of the previous owner. This way the power was broken, and no one could claim that power for their own. My hapenny’orth anyways 😃
Venta Icenorum was what was known as a "civitas." It was built as a "capitol" of sorts for a particular tribe that had territory in the Roman Empire. So it was built to be a Iceni capitol city.
the Icini had all the right to rebel and the fact that horrible assault on Boudica and her dauthers was narrated by a roman historian makes it believable because it comes from the perpetrator. that's why I hate conquerors and don't understand people fascination with them.
Personally I believe the reason the torc are damage is because you wouldn't want anyone else to use, if only high status people wear these object they wouldn't want anyone else wearing it that's for sure.
It is striking that the soil overburden above the Roman layer is so thin. Just compare to Londinium which lies several metres below the current surface of the City.
I found this very interesting it's a. It's a really new take on boudica. I think that their tribe would have been destroyed anyway the Romans were in the process of doing it when she stood up to them. However I am sad that they didn't continue with their arts and artisanship. But they probably didn't have the metals. And the purpose for that fine craftsmanship were the torx and for swords and other weapons and that wouldn't have been allowed by the Romans after that.
We're getting the Impression Time Team does not believe Essex exists at this time, why did they not show West Stow, that's an Iron age living history actually in Icene territory. Same for Roman stuff too. 😢 Edit: WOW! finally Colchester. Never seen a proper Time team doing anything here!!
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The closed captioning is done by AI -- tell the robots
@@aairsick We apologise again for the fault in the
subtitles. Those responsible for sacking
the people who have just been sacked,
have been sacked.
@@future_me_6067 Off with there heads...
How do they know that the "Eceini" made these? or that they were Celts? They may have traded others for them, or they may have been Goldsmith of lineage.
As DNA has continued to unfold with Ancient DNA studies, Geneticists have validated the fact that the "Tuatha de Dannan" = the "Tribe of Dann" and they very well arrived in Ireland, after departing Egypt, in what is known as the Exodus.
(There were multiple tribes of Israel, not just Judaens), and the "Tribe of Dann" went to Greece, then Iberia, and on to Ireland. They were the "Goldsmiths"
I hypothesize that these Gold pieces may have been the works of the "Tuatha de Dannan".
The "Icini" may have been relatives of the "Tribe of Dann"
I know today that the British DNA reflects that the "Males have
An Alternative possibility:
How do they know that the "Eceini" made these? or that they were Celts? They may have traded others for them, or they may have been Goldsmith of lineage.
As DNA has continued to unfold with Ancient DNA studies, Geneticists have validated the fact that the "Tuatha de Dannan" = the "Tribe of Dann" and they very well arrived in Ireland, after departing Egypt, in what is known as the Exodus.
(There were multiple tribes of Israel, not just Judaens), and the "Tribe of Dann" went to Greece, then Iberia, and on to Ireland. They were the "Goldsmiths"
I hypothesize that these Gold pieces may have been the works of the "Tuatha de Dannan".
The "Icini" may have been relatives of the "Tribe of Dann"
I know today that the British DNA reflects that the "Males have
I am 71 now and spent my life in Aerospace Engineering. To me, in my opinion. They knew far more than we think because, they buried the Torq's on separate levels. That to me indicates they knew about what we today call, dissimilar metal corrosion and took care to separate them on different levels to avoid corrosion. It also makes me think, that they were not being discarded because as you would only do that to preserve them for future use. So they were recoverable for the precious metals or maybe some type of ritual use. I do love these video's by the way lol.
I agree
I agree. There is a ongoing tradition among tribes worldwide of ceremonial burial of their most treasured items before going to a very hard battle from which they may not return.
My belief is these torque represent each family and tribe that is gathered at that spot as an army.
The burial is both ceremonial and preservative.
They did not make it back to retrieve the items.
Intetesting insight
You're the new cool kid in class Sir 🙂
I've been in the building trade for 31 years. I look at the megaliths all over the world and think they must have had more technology than we give them credit for. Take stone henge. Recently, they have discovered some of the stone came from northern Scotland. I just can't see primitive people being capable of bringing them all that way. I wonder what these things did. It must have either been very important or pretty easy for them to move these blocks of stone.
She may have ultimately been defeated but she is one of the very few to stand up to the Romans and although it may have cost her tribe dearly, although we cannot be sure, she is the embodiment of the saying that it is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees, all hail the queen ❤️
Why did the Britons, Romans, and various peoples of the ancient world harm non-combatants (unarmed women and children) back then? It seems wrong to me to harm and kill on-combatants no matter who they are. So why did Boudicca and the Britons go after Roman women and children instead of just sending them packing back to Rome, their actions don’t make them any different or better than the Roman army.
@@jmwilliamsartancient times were brutal and no side was innocent of this brutality read up on more history. Not pleasant but that’s the way it was for centuries until relatively recently where brutality is more obfuscated.
@@jmwilliamsart.... methodology. Those that are of foreign influence, origin and hostility to the established Britons were perceived as a threat of not just their way of life through betrayal and brutality, but ultimately, annhialation. So it was that, which was thus meted out to them. However, ironically, it eventually brought the Iceni down.
But such a moral code of only attacking combatants is a modern warfare game.
Oh yes it's all very neat and PC to pretend there was equality of brutality, no nation WORSE than any other, but GOOD LUCK trying to make that cutesy-wootsy belief correspond to the real world in the case of Boudicca's GHASTLY atrocities against the civilians of Londinium, good luck trying to find these "Romans and various people of the outside world" cutting off women's breasts and shoving them in their mouths (as Boudicca's "army" did), without going all the way to the Armenian Holocaust in World War 1.
@@freyatilly Tell that to to Putin. Lives of women and children mean zero to him. It seems he's using the same tactic. Kill as many as possible, so it takes much longer to repopulate. 'Scuse me for speaking out of context; but it was the same strategy I saw after reading the comment/s.
TT on Sunday evening, just like the old days
Feels right, doesn’t it.
@@ledacedar6253it does indeed!
Aaaand relax 🫖 ☕️
😄
Wonderful- I have watched TT since day one- Sunday nights in Canterbury- teacher training degree, only meal I allowed myself in front of a screen- toasted sandwich and a cuppa- a ritual.
I feel I have grown up with TT and the knowledge I have gained has helped me teach my primary school children so much more about history.
For a brief period in my career, I suffered from depression and anxiety- before taking medication, I truly believe chain watching TT saved my sanity. Thankfully much better now and so I watch TT with sheer joy. I want to thank TT for enriching my life in so many ways.
Your lucky. I wish US tv was like ya'lls . You had TT we had DALLAS or some crappie sit-com I can remember.
Tell your students they are lucky too😊
Aah, Time Team. Like comfy slippers on a winter night.
Along with Scrapheap Challenge.
My aunt is a very well known British archeologist, I have been fascinated, since as a young child, I was allowed to stand at the top of the Canterbury dig with her and look down into the dig itself. I have always wished that I had followed in her footsteps. Have loved TT since the very first episode ☺️
Boudica has always fascinated me. I so appreciate this special. I hope that over time we will be able to learn even more about her nd her people.
The Gods have smiled upon me. A brilliant documentary to relive the tedium of my day. Old telly friends teaching me wonderful history.
Brilliant episode, I’ve always admired Boudica. Thank you Time Team!!
I like the time team program wery mutch with Tony Robinson and the rest of the original crew more. When you have follow a program 20 years its hard to just forgett the show with the old crew.
Tony, Phil and Guy...perfect!
Don't forget Helen!
@@future_me_6067 oops...of course not...sorry Helen!
For me; Philip Harding and Francis Pryor. With Guy de la Bedoyere bringing up the Roman rear-guard. Pryor and Harding are "Deep History" expert professionals. If not for 'Black-Adder' Baldric would be no-where to be seen. Though he is a lovely-horrid-funny little man; bless him and his infuriating trench-hopping.
@@KernowekTim I agree although Sir Tony met Mick on a dig in Greece I believe so had an amateur interest...which is good, he made the archaeologists accountable! I love Francis for his undying enthusiasm
Vale Mick…. Much missed 💐
I cast no aspersions anywhere else, but as a long-time (20+ years) fan of Time Team, this is my favorite production from Time Team Official yet. Great job. Encore encore!
Sadly, you cannot top Boudica.
Time Team is my Happy Place ❤❤
Seeing that child's split skull. Brings it home, my heart broke a little...
Yes, the innocent are always the ones who suffer the most, and it’s still happening across the world.😢
3 or 4 years old, it's horrific.
I remember watching this episode when it was new. It inspired me to try working with copper wire bought at the local hardware store. Since then I've learned lots of metal working to make jewelry. Only for myself, but it's enormously satisfying. I even like keeping the copper polished.
"East Anglia became something of a backwater, just as it is today", Tony being absolutely savage!
The story of Boudicca fascinates me! Thank you ❤
Tony and Boudicca?! I’m being spoiled!!
I understand!
Always a great pleasure to view time teams offerings. As a lover of history, I truly appreciate your work. Go Time Team!!
Just magical. History of our Isles is simply amazing. Educational narrative with Sir TR deploying his incredible, colourful and mesmerising storytelling. Thank Q ❤
Like old times Tony and Time Team. Dont watch it now but came to this and rejoiced
So good to see Tony Robinson back. He just lifts your interest in the subject 😊
It is so wonderful watching all of you digging up history for us!! I have always loved anything on Boudica and their history! Thank you so very much for delving into this more for us!!👏👏👏💯💯💯🙏💖🪶💞✨️💜
Fun fact - Lost wax technique is still used to cast parts in all kinds of materials.
Queen Boudica lived and died for her children and her tribe
Freedom
Don't we all??
She died for revenge for pain and vengeance. Notice she had no plans for afterwards?
I´ve been looking for this one - Boudica is one of my favourite historical figures, so I´m thrilled to see her story explored by my favourite archaeologists :)
This is a great episode. I thought I had seen all the time team episodes but then one of these specials pops up and I get really excited. Being an American who was a teenager when Time Team was originally running I didn’t find out about this fabulous series until 2020 when the pandemic hit and I spent most of that time watching historic documentaries and of course I found Time Team in that period and absolutely fell in love. I had seen Tony Robinson on some other Documentaries before I found Time Team but now he is my favorite presenter and I have watched literally everything I can find of his and I even now have favorite archaeologist like Helen Geake, Matt Williams, Carenza Lewis, Raksha Dave, Brigid Gallagher and of course Francis Pryor and Mick Aston. Plus even favorite specialist like Stewart, John Gater, Henry and my absolute favorite Guy de la Bédoyère. Oh and I can’t forget the cornerstone of the whole series and greatest user of a shovel and trowel ever Phil Harding.
Fantastic. What a pleasure it was to find this one posted today.
Tony, Phil, Francis, Guy, Helen oh wow! Delitefull!
Helen is still positively adorable in the new episodes.
TT is and has always been an amazing channel. Thank you guys for keeping history real and alive.❤
This is just so right on a Sunday. Time Team never fails to deliver the goods.
Yes it was great fun being with Timeteam.
I don't know if i ever saw this one so it was a nice treat!
I used to work with precious metals - silver and gold. I think there is a mistake in the explanation for the gold-rich surface of the torques. I believe the surface layer was enriched by repeated heating and "pickling", that is heated to oxidise the copper in the outer surface, then placed in an acid bath of some kind to dissolve away the copper oxide. This process has been used for centuries and I'm pretty sure it was discovered millennia ago.
If the experiment Torc Team had been working with a rod of the alloy, maybe they would have found this.
The presenter did actually mention heating oxidization and quenching in acid, while she was describing the hammering process.
Tony! HOORAY!
Thanks
Thank You For Letting Me See My Old Show FAVORITES!!! Tony, Dr Pryor, & Guy from The Beginning!!! This Is Awesome and I will Not Stop Until The End. I am as Excited about my favorite Educators as I am About This Great Topic!!!! I can't Wait....Must Go Watch!
Love learning about this period in history.
I love Time Team.
Saw this so many years ago. Now, re-edited, reshown. I'll rewatch. This was some of the best television a quarter century ago. And how about all the "farm" videos? I may just troll the past. Of course, I'm heading for my mid-seventies. No longer excited by anything new.
Looking good Tony, great to see some of the team again.
Thanks so much for a fantastic episode. Bravo 👏
Starting in a few minutes? I’ll just make the tea then…
Already eating mine, dessert will have to wait though
Same
Boudica is my favourite person of all time ... 😊
Loving it from Loveland Colorado usa
Love the recreation of the torque
So good.. I have always loved this channel.
So glad the old team are back. Brilliant episode as always
Love being a patron 👍🏻😁❤️
Never let anyone say that the Roman Empire was a glorious one. They were as barbaric, if not more so, than the people they conquered.
Fantastic insert into a lesser known, short but fascinating period of Britannia's ancient tribal history.
After all, what did the Romans do for us?
Architecture, language and alphabet, (maybe) roads, aqueducts, Roman baths.
Norfolk, England....where my father's paternal ancestors came from, who sailed to America in 1836. I wonder if my great-great grandmother had any Icini ancestry as she had a Celtic name. Rest in Peace, Boudica, brave warrior queen! I admire her courage for standing up to the brutality of the Romans.
I agree. She knew she didn’t really stand a chance, but she taught the Romans a lesson they’d never forget!
Brilliant just amazing love it great work Time Team BIG UP
This made my Sunday, seeing the old faces from TT!🥲
Seeing Phil in his element puts a smile on my face!😂😎👍
🇬🇧 I believe that the battle where Boudica was ambushed was not at Mancetta but just off the Foss way somewhere near Leamington Spa.
Also, Hill top restaurant near Leamington Spa is surely a Roman troops lookout. It has views all around and is just off the Foss Way.
Its TONY!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤
What a lovely surprise!
My take on the destroyed torques is that they belonged to the dead, never to be worn again by anyone. Great episode! Everyone on Time Team needs to be knighted!
Gotta love Phil.
Comments by Guy and Francis towards the end...very illuminating.
Awesome stuff
🤘😎🤘
Great stuff something to learn from all of the troubles 😊
The story of bodicea and her people would make for an excellent history channel movie. She's such an enigma I'd love to learn more about her. ❤I would have to include their rich culture and fierceness and an educated guess as to how she became queen.
"Time Team" is not Time Team without Tony Robisnon - Come back Tony
There is rarely a mention of the huge hill fort north of Thetford, attributed to the Iceni. The excavation was led by Tony Gregory in the 1980s and must have been a key area after the defeat of Boudicca
Glad Francis Pryor said that .
I don’t think it’s a case of Rome ostracising the iceni more a case of the iceni turning their back on Roman ways , they didn’t need that Roman market town they’d got their own
Its absolutely facilitating the history of BRITAN i hated history at school as well but TIME TEAM does history way better you actually see the relics..
Kiwi with lots of Norfolk ancestry. Sometimes I dream a little, that I have Iceni blood in my veins.
You never know.
I wonder how many people of British descent are descended from the Iceni tribe. I know there is no way to know, but sometimes I wonder what clans my ancestors were in. Where were my ancient British ancestors when all this was going down? Did they fight? On which side? Did the warriors survive the battle or just their children?
It would be interesting to know if DNA studies have been done on any of the Iceni skeletal remains. They could check for Y-DNA and mtDNA, which would give clues to such questions. 25 years ago, the DNA tech was unavailable. Maybe Google around to see if any studies have been done.
Some if My ancestry come from Norfolk
I like to think Boudica was satisfied with giving the Romans a darn good kicking, and it may be all she wanted :)
I chanced on this when RUclips threw it up on my Home page. The funny thing is that only the other day I wondered what had happened to this show. Interesting because a) I'd never seen it before and b) I don't really have any memory of filming the scenes with Tony at Castor St Edumnds or Colchester (which must have been in 2010). What I mostly remember is breaking my toe on the bed in the hotel at Colchester because it was only about 6 inches narrower than the room I was in, and that the motorcycle I had driven down on had a defective rectifier which had flattened the battery. The content of the show I had totally forgotten.
"where we are from we have hillforts, and we put them on hills" that got me
The furthest ancestor I found in England is the saxon King Aella.
It sounds like she had just had enough of the Roman oppression. The disgusting mistreatment of her children brought out the mother's rage in her and that's what sparked her to lead the revolt. It was likely the last straw and she just said that's it, we're rising up and striking back. And personally, I'd have done the same. I'd wring out revenge for my children with every drop of blood I could. But I suspect she might have been aware her rebellion wouldn't last; you cannot build and survive on rage alone. It might have started the flames, but you need more than a spark to keep the fire going. Rome was already pretty well organized; that's likely why eventually they were able to overwhelm a fledgling rebellion that didn't really have a plan other than vengeance. But I give the queen all the respect she's due as a leader and mother. Those torques the tribe made are beautiful. Love Time Team; such a great story!
When I was a boy about 1959, the central area was still being deep ploughed by a farmer called 'Bummy' Daniels, and you could, and we boys did (if Mr Daniels didn't catch you,) pick up all sorts of artifacts. I still have a bone playing piece, broken roof tiles and pieces of Samian ware, one with a Roman fingerprint on it!
I've always rather wondered where the gold came from that they made the jewelry from. Who taught them to work it? Always great to see these, I've loved watching the Time Team first finding it during covid and now as a patron of their comeback.
Poor Phil he really didn't like seeing that skull 💀
They had nothing but time to master their metallurgy skill sets!
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Wow Stonea is near march that is quite a distance from Norwich.
The torqs were broken in a way so there power couldn't be used by the emeny, they didn't have the craftsmen to repair them. A broken treasure is a broken people, anyone local would know that a broken torq the owner came to a sticky end....
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With his sweaty hat..
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I’m going to argue the torcs were broken once the owner died. They didn’t want to be buried with them because they feared someone would come along and despoil the grave, take the torc and claim the authority of the previous owner. This way the power was broken, and no one could claim that power for their own.
My hapenny’orth anyways 😃
There are many torques very similar to this in north west Germany Landesmuseum Oldenburg, undamaged or cut though, fascinating.
Venta Icenorum was what was known as a "civitas." It was built as a "capitol" of sorts for a particular tribe that had territory in the Roman Empire. So it was built to be a Iceni capitol city.
the Icini had all the right to rebel and the fact that horrible assault on Boudica and her dauthers was narrated by a roman historian makes it believable because it comes from the perpetrator. that's why I hate conquerors and don't understand people fascination with them.
Personally I believe the reason the torc are damage is because you wouldn't want anyone else to use, if only high status people wear these object they wouldn't want anyone else wearing it that's for sure.
That JCB digger looks like a mobility scooter with a mechanical digger arm put on it.
It is striking that the soil overburden above the Roman layer is so thin. Just compare to Londinium which lies several metres below the current surface of the City.
Britts' Scyphian gold...
Question - if the metal had to be hammered as in the programme so have any anvils been found in digs?
Iron age metalworking. Have many tools been found? Did the metalworkers have a bench vise?
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From across the pond, not sure I understand why it’s called a revolt. Was the tribe not here prior to the Romans?
Yes, but the Romans had conquered Britain. Think of Native Americans here in the US.
Could this be where Boudica was born, stayed in, or where her village was?
I found this very interesting it's a. It's a really new take on boudica. I think that their tribe would have been destroyed anyway the Romans were in the process of doing it when she stood up to them. However I am sad that they didn't continue with their arts and artisanship. But they probably didn't have the metals. And the purpose for that fine craftsmanship were the torx and for swords and other weapons and that wouldn't have been allowed by the Romans after that.
We're getting the Impression Time Team does not believe Essex exists at this time, why did they not show West Stow, that's an Iron age living history actually in Icene territory.
Same for Roman stuff too. 😢
Edit: WOW! finally Colchester. Never seen a proper Time team doing anything here!!
Ooof, rundown East Anglian town . . . sounds like modern-day Wisbech.