Great tips and adivce. I would also add a point of speed control to allow you to see how much you can play with the same ball becuase the tour tournaments usually tend to have ball carry limits, so in that case if I don't have a ball suitable for that condition which allows me to play my normal style, I would immediately tap into my speed control technique and play the lane the way lanes are asking me to play. Just my two cents.
What suggestions do you have for older bowlers like myself? Unfortunately, some of us cannot approach the line like you can in your first shot. Some of us tend to hobble to the foul line until our knee joints become more flexible.
I agree with the stretching may not be enough, @irishpogi. A lot of it has to do with confidence in your slide too- I can't go full at the line until I've made at least 2-3 apprehensive approaches just to have confidence in the approach to be able to worry only about my target. NO way I could be lined up and ready to go in 5 approaches.
@@joebeagle1009 Unfortunately now a days at age 58, it takes the entire practice session plus the first 6-7 frames of the first game to get everything loose. Sometimes longer.
so ok. lets say you got 4 shots and still have not found a good part of the lane. move to 15 and throw 11/12 down lane? totally different ball? what to do next? i think most bowlers don't test limits. that's good advice.
i only counted 4 shots. 1st arrow, 2nd arrow, 3/2 then 3/1 then decided on 3/2 from 2nd arrow with a strong surface but did not throw #5. so, you don't mention any layout info. similar layouts on benchmark and stronger ball? pin down. where do you stand to play 5, 10 at the arrows. (different for everyone if they drift, etc) so what foot do you line up with and board in stance say to play 2nd arrow? i can then translate for me then because it seemed like you had some launch angle right but not much.
sounded like he had more room (for error) with stronger ball on the 3/2 move from 10. then if it started to transition he could either stay put with the weaker ball or move back to 10 with it after the weaker ball started to transition. after that? maybe 4/3 or 5/3 off the 10 board shot. then its just a matter who you are following if you move pairs. but he did get lined up in 4 shots. I'll ask another question up top now that i mentioned this.
So what is the method here? he started on the five board, then it just seems like the rest is guess work? changed balls in the middle of the five shots, and I don't understand where the guess of 45-46' came from? Is this just a sort of "I can get lined up in just 5 shots"? because I thought it was going to be a progression of 5 shots that each tell us something unique about the pattern? I don't mean to seem arrogant or negative, I am just new to sport patterns and I want to know how to analyze them. Thanks for the video!
He started out by the gutter to see if the ball would make it back to the pocket or not from the far right side of the lane. Starting here gives you an idea of volume of oil in the pattern as well as length of the pattern. On a sport pattern once you see you can't make it to the pocket from near the gutter you need to start moving your feet and target closer to the pocket. This is telling you the pattern is longer and/or heavy oil volume and you need to start out closer to the pocket in order for you ball to make it back to strike. Then you rinse and repeat this process until you hit pocket. Follow that up like he did by testing out miss room to see how tight the lanes are playing. Another trick for judging pattern length is throw a ball using only a one step or zero step approach and watch where the ball turns left down lane. This tells you where the oil pattern ends and you can judge approximately how long the pattern is in case you want to use the rule of 31 to determine where your break point should be down lane. Hope this helps.
Great tips and adivce. I would also add a point of speed control to allow you to see how much you can play with the same ball becuase the tour tournaments usually tend to have ball carry limits, so in that case if I don't have a ball suitable for that condition which allows me to play my normal style, I would immediately tap into my speed control technique and play the lane the way lanes are asking me to play. Just my two cents.
What a great video Dustin!!!!! Team CTD
Is it safe to assume that the Aero and Web Tour Hybrid are drilled the same so that we are taking the layout of the balls out of the equation?
They were drilled the same.
But you guys doing great I enjoy all the info
What suggestions do you have for older bowlers like myself? Unfortunately, some of us cannot approach the line like you can in your first shot. Some of us tend to hobble to the foul line until our knee joints become more flexible.
Stretch as much as possible before you start.
@@Ctdbowling Sometimes that is not enough.
I agree with the stretching may not be enough, @irishpogi. A lot of it has to do with confidence in your slide too- I can't go full at the line until I've made at least 2-3 apprehensive approaches just to have confidence in the approach to be able to worry only about my target. NO way I could be lined up and ready to go in 5 approaches.
@@joebeagle1009 Unfortunately now a days at age 58, it takes the entire practice session plus the first 6-7 frames of the first game to get everything loose. Sometimes longer.
@@irishpogi I hear ya... Took me until game 4 this weekend to get comfortable on wood approaches. Probably why I'm not bowling on TV 😄
so ok. lets say you got 4 shots and still have not found a good part of the lane. move to 15 and throw 11/12 down lane? totally different ball? what to do next? i think most bowlers don't test limits. that's good advice.
i only counted 4 shots. 1st arrow, 2nd arrow, 3/2 then 3/1 then decided on 3/2 from 2nd arrow with a strong surface but did not throw #5. so, you don't mention any layout info. similar layouts on benchmark and stronger ball? pin down. where do you stand to play 5, 10 at the arrows. (different for everyone if they drift, etc) so what foot do you line up with and board in stance say to play 2nd arrow? i can then translate for me then because it seemed like you had some launch angle right but not much.
so would you start off with the 2nd arrow shot that worked and then later use the Aero and move left later ?
That is a option for sure.
sounded like he had more room (for error) with stronger ball on the 3/2 move from 10. then if it started to transition he could either stay put with the weaker ball or move back to 10 with it after the weaker ball started to transition. after that? maybe 4/3 or 5/3 off the 10 board shot. then its just a matter who you are following if you move pairs. but he did get lined up in 4 shots.
I'll ask another question up top now that i mentioned this.
So what is the method here? he started on the five board, then it just seems like the rest is guess work? changed balls in the middle of the five shots, and I don't understand where the guess of 45-46' came from? Is this just a sort of "I can get lined up in just 5 shots"? because I thought it was going to be a progression of 5 shots that each tell us something unique about the pattern? I don't mean to seem arrogant or negative, I am just new to sport patterns and I want to know how to analyze them. Thanks for the video!
He started out by the gutter to see if the ball would make it back to the pocket or not from the far right side of the lane. Starting here gives you an idea of volume of oil in the pattern as well as length of the pattern. On a sport pattern once you see you can't make it to the pocket from near the gutter you need to start moving your feet and target closer to the pocket. This is telling you the pattern is longer and/or heavy oil volume and you need to start out closer to the pocket in order for you ball to make it back to strike. Then you rinse and repeat this process until you hit pocket. Follow that up like he did by testing out miss room to see how tight the lanes are playing. Another trick for judging pattern length is throw a ball using only a one step or zero step approach and watch where the ball turns left down lane. This tells you where the oil pattern ends and you can judge approximately how long the pattern is in case you want to use the rule of 31 to determine where your break point should be down lane. Hope this helps.
What would be nice, was for Dustin to go ahead and bowl after his 5 practice shots to see his look. He did not talk about the rule of 31.
We will have other videos that discuss lane play.
You do not age at all Dustin lol #TEAMCTD
5 shots is to many if bowling in pba
Well in the PBA they tell you the pattern and where you’re a pro and have bowled on it probably you know what to do