"ANA IS A LOW SKILL HERO"
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"Rein is the only one without a gun"
*looks at Brig*
Sad sigma noices
Moira would like to differ
Genji, brig, kiriko, moira, reinhardt, hanzo
*Looks at Zeny*
Ram
I think it's interesting when someone puts the majority - or at least a significant chunk - of the support heroes in the lower half of tier lists. I also think it demonstrates something very specific about the beliefs that person has about the heroes and the role in general lol
1:27 xD the moment when you are german, hear everything in english and suddenly the mercy drops a german sentence. but i love overwatch for exactly this reason, the heroes sometimes drop some words in their languages like ana or sometimes symmetra and genji, i love it!!! even after 5 years of overwatch experience
I've been learning Japanese for the past 3 months and I'll occasionally understand what Kiriko/one of the Shimadas are saying and that's always really cool to me :D
@@glacity Sasuga!
@Glacity you should try playing in Japanese to help with your learning experience❤. You can change the language settings for overwatch in the battlenet client.
@@ajabumblebee I have tried that and it was very fun, but I usually play comp so I'd have to relearn all the muscle memory I've built up to react to certain voice lines like ults ^^'
Maybe once I can understand more of the words I hear, I'll play like that again. I do play other games in Japanese though! Gaming really is good immersion practice :>
@@glacity you see, blizzard also encourages us positive in different languages.
I'm still a bit sad that it doesn't have an Egyptian or Arabic voice output. I mean because of ana.
yeah that's pretty cool in general.
that quickscope transition at 1:02 is so nice
Cloudy is literally a onetrick. How can he even know if other heroes are hard or easy
Yes he does he has played with other pros for multiple years so he knows what other heroes do
@@fowaking4476 even if he knows what other heroes do it doesnt contradict what the original comment said
@@ReyRey277 that’s like saying to a vet “You’re not an animal how would you know how to help them”.
He got GM on Ana though lmao
@@fowaking4476 he said Ana is less skill than Reinhardt
Watching cloudy slowly decent into madness kinda made my day
"Idk, Cloudy sounding kinda based, I think everyone else is just huffing copium and wants to believe their character is the hardest one to play" said the Reinhardt main 😎
Being bias is fair enough and for most situations I will account it for but this one specifically. He's delusional, just because her kit makes her strong doesn't mean she isn't hard to play.
Practise with anything makes you really good but how has Blizzard made Reinhardt a one star hero and he's coping over other classes
Guy hasn't hit a sleep dart in his life.
I know Mercy is easy to play and hard to master and even harder to get value out of.
@@boltman1195he got to gm with ana. And one skill shot every 14 seconds isnt something that takes an insane amount of skill. Every support does that. He says shes easy because most of the time you just sit in the back and heal or dmg. If your teams push up you push up if they pull back you pull back. Theres a lot of room for you to make mistakes and not be punished. That room hasnt always been there with other characters
so if cloudy always queues into yznsa and only loses to yznsa does it mean he always loses?
i believe he said yznsa is the only one he can *can* lose against not *will* lose against, remember cloudy is good he plays the "highest" skill tank
Are you 4 years old?
>Says Ana low skill tier
>Says Reinhardt difficult hero
*BRUHHHHH*
1:34 the "nyooOOOM" sound effect of mercy flying in with her glock to kill cass 😂
oh ya, Bap is so much harder. with his AOE healing, burst fire with his primary gun, the ability to boost his own damage, a literal immortality lamp, AND a movement ability....
bap is not the most difficult, it is most definitely between zen and kiri for that, but he is def harder to play than ana. at any distance past short-mid range, ana can do more DPS than bap can, plus bap has to hit all 3 bullets with spread at close range while ana has to hit one, with bap having a higher skill ceiling because, when he hits a decent number of headshots at close range, he out-DPSes every other support hero. Ana also has a scope making everything easier to hit, with no damage fall off, meaning ana can just sit in the backline while bap has to pay more attention and be a lot more careful while positioning. There's more too, but just take a look at the winrates for bap compared to ana for every rank below diamond, then look at diamond, masters, and GM, where they have much closer winrates.
@@MARIOMAKER-wk8vy lol what? Bap is so easy
@@MARIOMAKER-wk8vy The above comment was sarcasm, my guy
@@MARIOMAKER-wk8vy I’m sorry but I put Kiriko on the same level as mercy. Everyone thinks she’s so hard bc of her left click, when I’d argue that you literally just take angles, hold right click to heal, and spam left click at head level and get massive value. Suzu is a pretty braindead ability that honestly doesn’t require a lot of thought. At least with bap immo, there’s a skill ceiling with it because you can get 10000x the value by strategically placing it in corners out of LOS of enemies while also making sure it’s in LOS of ur team so they don’t die. Suzu u spam when someone is anti, sleeping, or just crit. I think at the highest level, zen is the most difficult bc it’s way more than sitting in the back and spamming. You need to take your own angles and have quick rotations bc u have zero survivability unlike ana nade and bap shift/immo. This is coming from an ana main who has around 2.5k hours on her I’d say, and currently has 2 accs in T200+
@@MARIOMAKER-wk8vy don't forget Ana has a lot of of natural predators and staying alive as a support is the core principle of adding value to team them you have to balance that by doing something. So Ana being the second easiest to punish and her having no choice but to fight in a one on one situation unless you have sleep dart
13:03 my ancestors 400 years ago at a well:
Hearing ML7 saying choke me daddy uwu was something I didn't know I needed today
Hearing ML7 saying choke me daddy uwu was something I know I didn't need today
One of my favorite things is the wholesome banter that often finds its way into ML's team comms.
Great editing on this one, especially the clips of Cloudy 😂
Damn, that transition when mL quickscopes the tracer was smoooooth af
That tierlist has to be bait right? RIGHT???
I have a feeling it's not, but I sure hope it is bait (also judging by some of the other heroes he ranked)
100%
He explained it pretty well (obv with humor) but it's pretty correct
@@ijarkkoh6944 pretty correct? Bruh, Rein on difficult, Ana in low skill, yeah, sure
To be honest, he deserved that Nepal game for saying Ana takes no skill. Tell YZN to keep owning him for that 😊
01:52 there's a splitsecond where it says "totally unbiased" in fullscreen
Funny to watch Cloudy try to convince mL7 of all people that Ana takes 0 skill lol
1:52 "totally unbiased"
8:13 had my fair share of these moments with the new cooldown lol
Seriously? In levels of difficulty for support, ana is the highest, but once you overcome it is the most rewarding. Baptiste is up their with moira as those 2 heroes have the best 2 ways to escape danger without sacrificing an ult
Support is one one easier roles to play but it’s the hardest to master I feel like you have so many things to worry about especially when your trying to keep your team alive
Maybe biased cuz I only play Ana…..
Nah ur speaking fax
If your tank has a brain all you have to do is sit in a corner and shoot especially on defense
@@ijarkkoh6944 unless u have ppl flanking and diving you then yea that part is easy
Nah bro you are 100% right
@@ijarkkoh6944 play zen/bap/ana in a T500 lobby against owl players and you’ll think differently
The hardest part of Reinhardt is jump canceling charge to fly.
Because of its difficulty, nobody have done by now.
So clearly tracer is the lowest skill hero since she has 2 guns!
I mean i guess Ana is wasy to heal bot on, but if you want to actually bring some value to the team you're gonna have to do more than that
8:13 its nice to see even high rank mercy's stuggling with flying with a pharah after the mercy nerfs lol.
1:36 Love how Mercy just zooms in 😂
I think rein mains have taken one too many hammers to the head.
😂 no just him he’s the defect
Cloudy malding over the res in village is me every time I play tank
Hahahaha I've had people try to tell me the same and even go as far to say " Ana is the worst support " even tho I'm having alot of value and impact in team fights. Even when we win I'll still have some bronze brained idiot telling me Ana sucks ( despite me proving otherwise ) I bet they also think Moira is hard to play 😂
A bronze mercy main who has played every support at least more than 2 hours can tell you Ana is no joke. Ana is easy to punish even in bronze. You get caught scoping in the open you are cooked, you misuse the cooldowns. You mobility won't allow you to reposition. Then they is widow, reaper, Mei, Kiriko, Hog, Genji, Sombra and junkrat who just live to undo your work, remove players from your line of sight or just target you down. And then you have uncooperative teammates Reinhardt and Orisa charging out of you line of sight or charging before the team cold regroup then shouting "need healings" right after you told them to wait for backup or at least wait for a mercy, lucio, Moira or Kiriko who can keep up with their speed and give me a chance to catchup. Doomfirst and Winston diving while cooldowns are off and worse not dividing out and feeding Mei who just mindlessly through Ice-wall even when the enemy team is at your mercy and giving them time to recover and secondary support players watching you die because you have more healing and they are trying to avoid blame. Ana has a lot of impact if used correctly but she is no joke. I am mercy and Baptist because I failed as Ana and I try to avoid her as much as I can. Respect Ana mains, that character is draining
another great video by roadrunner, ml really does have the best crew of editors
I love how ML7 doesn’t get butthurt and toxic even when his friends call his hero low skill. Seems like some people in the comments should take a lesson from that. 👀
@@johnsonspark171 some support heroes are high skill and flats is a clown If he thinks an entire role is low skill
Bro Cloudy is so cute
5:52 most fair rez range
He was literally right above it you sound salty
@@BarrackObama348 “right above” hmmmmmm perhaps you don’t have eyes?
that was just high IQ play
that hammerhard guy looks like that one kid from that old halloween movie "Scary GodMother" the bully kid who dressed up as a devil I think?
My favorite part was "YAZAN YAZAN YAZAAAAAAAN!!!" 😂😂
“I’m not going to bring facts, logic, and reason into an emotional discussion” I’m gonna start using that lol
boy o boy what a flick at 1:02......
rein one tricks really saying ana the hardest because they can't aim lmao
rein literally swings a hammer and holds up a shield that's skill?!?!?!?
The fact that people in this comment section are taking banter between frens so seriously hurts 🙃
I wanna see Unsalted Salt do an Unranked to GM on a support now…
Bro dodged in real life hahah 11:40
omg not the fortnite boogie bomb music hahahaha
Bro put Rein on hardest one 💀
I love cloudy :D
Cloudy plays a hyper aggro style who is greedy for resources. That's why he thinks Ana is a healbot hero, because the only way Cloudy can win is if he gets 100% of the teams resources. But if he goes in and feeds, then it's his Ana's fault for not healing.
Nice, I decided to watch this video randomly and turns out I'm in it lul
so like one time i was playing in quick play as moira and i saw the enemy mercy was all alone so i started to suck her and she legit took her pistol out and head shot me!
i checked the stats and saw that it was ML7
so i said HI to him!
0:12 there is no way he put mercy at no skill and hanzo at low skill but rein at hardest skill
Ana has a fairly low skill floor (not like Junkrat, Sym, Torb, Moira but u know) but also a really high skill ceiling
i don’t understand what that means, what’s the difference
Uhm, no? You can't just spam with Ana and hope you'll hit your team. She takes skill to be a decent Ana and lots of skill to be a good Ana. Mostly because sleep and nade and her low mobility play into it as well
@@insecticaa Skill floor is how easy a character is to pick up and perform decent with, skill ceiling is how much value mastery of the character can bring.
@@nemebliss I think she has a pretty medium skill floor. I was able to climb to Diamond with 200 hours one-tricking Mercy when I first started playing OW. That is low skill floor.
When I switched to Ana, I dropped to gold and stayed there for the first 300 hours fighting for my life to hit shots, use my abilities right, and position well enough cuz if you can't do all 3, you often just die and lose. I'm finally just scraping diamond after 500hrs.
She might be lower skill floor for people who play other shooters/characters who need to aim tho.
@@glacity actually even if your aim is good you miss one of the three you will die and lose a dead Ana is a useless Ana
first time I've been able to watch an mL7 youtube video to completion - every video I've seen before this one was been way over-edited
“Ana E is easier to press than Bap E.” Bro. What.
ppl say that?
Dude you’re fucking filthy with Anna. Learned a lot watching your vid
anna takes more skill than any other support easily including kiriko. name a more skill demanding supp hero than anna im waiting
@Chris Foster I’m also an ana main and I play kiriko/bap on the side and I can confirm that’s bs. Bap has more survivability due to his jump and lamp versus anna who has sleep which is a high skill level ability that should be saved to counter ults. Bap can easily reposition where as anna has to take more time. Long story short bap is in the middle while anna is the hardest. Ana, kiriko, brig, bap, zen, mercy ,Lucio
i found satisfaction watching ml7 struggle with the mercy GA changes lol
Oh is she now? 😊
Lucio main let's goooo SSSSS tier x) (i don't understand that tier list but okk)
no way ana is that easy to use. if one cant aim, its pointless to play ana.
that goes for every character = if you cant understand & use the fundamentals of a character YOU LOSE
@@xeffary7390 scope has aim bot lol.. Found the console player
@@xeffary7390 the most consistent value on sleep isn’t tanks, it’s flankers or divers.
Rein has shield, sigma has shield, zarya has bubble, dva has matrix. The only tank you’ll consistently get sleeps with are the ones I didn’t mention. Otherwise the only reason you’re hitting them consistently is because the tanks are bad
@@xeffary7390since when did a sniper rifle, that functions the exact same as other hitscan weapons, because it is infact also a hitscan, have aimbot. How did you come up with that conclusion? I guess I missed it even after all of the years I played overwatch.
@@xeffary7390 so confidently wrong
12:55 lol i laughed so much
ana is sorta a weird hero. id consider her "almost balanced" all her benefits have well implemented downsides...all but one.
she has long range and great damage for a support, but she has to scope in to maintain accuracy and has no mobility whatsoever.
she has a powerful CC, but its balanced by being a skillshot and a long cd.
she has a great ultimate, but its an ultimate that provides no real benefit to herself.
she has anti. a low cd AOE fight dominating tool that single handedly wins fights, has multiple uses, and can literally win fights without ultimates, and is strong enough that kiriko wastes one of the best abilities in the game JUST to stop its effects even though ana will just toss another by the time kiriko's susu comes back up.
on one hand, ana is the most balanced hero in the game...but on the other, she also has antinade, which is just flat out the best ability in the game imho even WITH kiriko's cleanse. because its a fight winning ability on a 8 second cd. its kinda like lucios amp it up, its an offensive game-winning ability, except even lucios amp is on a longer cd.
do i think she takes no skill? LMFAO hell no. i think shes a perfect middle ground the optimal spot for a hero...just...the fact you can look at me dead in the eyes and say "moira orb and ana's biotic nade should have the same cd" is just asinine. especially when moira's orb used to be on a LONGER cd.
Ana is lower skill than Bap which makes sense, because Widowmaker is also lower skill than Junkrat.
We love you ml
His point is sooo backwards! Rein takes no skill! Hold shield and swing hammer takes less mechanical skill than any other hero!
You have never played rein past bronze
Lol, mechanical skill/aim is the easy part of the game. It's everything else that's difficult.
@@dontatmebitches maybe it can be difficult to master, but that goes with every hero in the game. But to be honest rein is one of the easiest tanks to just pick up and do well with, all you gotta do is not feed and have good reaction times with your shield.
@@handle1944 That's why characters that depend on aim are so popular in bronze lobby, right?
Oh wait, Soujorn has the lowest win rate in bronze... Well 😜
@@sthepcorms6747 Bronze players aren't in bronze because of their aim 🤡
this is how its like when 3D predators prey on 2D creatures. 😆
Never be proud with pharmacie
>Yznsa is the only player I lose to
>meanwhile cloudy leaving games to not play againat chazm
Sigma lucio makes me think of some sus things :)
8:31 .. me all game
I can play all the support characters and get away with it usually, except ana. She is definitely a higher skill character that requires practice+skill❤
no way cloudy put brig above ana in his rankings LMFAOOO
I know it is joke, but ow has 2 hero without gun, Brigitte didn’t have too XD
Hopper from stranger things
Isn’t cloudy the one that was getting bullied by chasm on ball 😂
People will shut up when they get nano'd. Ana main here
Ml7 In mercy makes yzn suffer
Seeing people get triggered by cloudy’s takes is so hilarious
His cat is so cute
3:17
Who gets into a lobby with ML7 and says Ya’know idc about the Rank 1 Ana all time on my team….I’m locking grandma!!!!!?
1:38 another triggered moment
who tf dares say Ana is a low skill hero , they sane ? bruh , playing Ana is like playing Doom on both sides and also trying to remain alive from flanks bruhhh
Ynz is amizing playing this game
Ana is the widow of support frfr
Aint no way a Reinhardt main talks about skill
What’s cloudy talking about? I’ve seen cyx, flats, buncha streamers all shitting on him before
People say this??
Bro if you watched the video that’s all they say 😐
@@JustAnotherPerson26 I posted this the minute it came out, do you think I watched the video? Lmao
rein at hardest in s3 is a joke
without looking at the comment I can see the avg plat chat gonna slander cloudy. He did many unbelievable thing as a rein main, all he said can be wrong but he is valid for that
This video actually validates all the points Cloudy was making in his video lmao. If you're using the easy heroes, you should win against the harder heroes. Wtf is Cloudy supposed to do against Phara Mercy, it's just rng if he can get a good dps player. His points about ana was that mentally she's a simple hero, stay back and heal tank, nade their tank, sleep any flankers. That's exactly what you did all game as ana. And his biggest point was that rein didn't have a gun, which was instrumental to him losing the game against pharah. Rein is difficult because he only gets value by being aggressive. All the other heroes can deal damage safely without exposing themselves for very long. Rein has to drop shield and go bananas or he's shield botting and you lose
Yes but his tier list was based on skill level. Low skill means Ana would need no skill, which is completely the opposite as an aim reliant character with no escapes in her kit.
Rein not being able to hit a pharah doesn't mean he's a high skill character. Reaper and Junkrat are two of the highest skill characters in the game with that logic.
Counterpicks and different maps playing into different characters is a thing.
The statement of easy heroes should beat hard heroes takes no consideration of skill curves. There's a reason that Sojourn has a negative win rate at low ranks but has been meta dominating at the highest tiers of play.
@Scott Wallbank ana aim is a joke, she gets 2 hitscans to determine hits. Her gun hits allies even if she misses by a little. And the logic is reins a high skill hero because making winning happen against most heros is hard, given his hard counters. Junk is a difficult character, only gold players think he's easy.
@@jasonjacksonii1805 Any hero is hard if you play into their hard counters. That's the whole point.
do you know the Gospel?
baptise literally has splash healing in his entire kit and an ability that make teamates immortal. He is harder to play than ana?? The only thing he is harder than ana on is hitting pharah or echo in the air, other than that how is he more difficult than ana again??
Yeah rein is the hardest tank. Doomfist:👀🤓
Ball 🐹
@@The-hamster2471 700 hp
wtf is a moigzy... mercy?
rein is low skill level. typical rein game: swing, swing, fire strike fire strike, sheild, swing swing, HAMMA DOWN, swing swing.
Calls Ana a noob class while playing a one star hero getting owned by other one star heroes. Ok mate