I'm unfortunately not able to update the video itself without reuploading, but I added a warning via a card at the beginning! Might pin this comment too, but hopefully if this reaches the GD community they should be aware of the game's flashing lights!
@progress_games I'm sure someone will appreciate the card. I don't have epilepsy myself, but some of those levels were hard to look at, so I I thought I should say something.
Fortunately(or unfortunately) most geometry dash videos are only recommended to people who play the game, and those people are well aware of the seizure inducing gameplay
About your point with compensating creators Surprisingly enough, this does happen within some instances, but it's actually really disliked by a lot of the community. There's this idea that levels will lose the artistic passion a lot of them currently have if there is a financial incentive. It's something we already see with "creator points" which are given to a creator when their level gets recognized by the developer of the game and rated/featured. With nexus specifically, I've had 2 of my levels featured on their channel and I can confidently say I've never even thought about wanting financial compensation, and I'm certain 99% of the creators of the levels he showcases haven't either. It's a prestigious thing in a way that gets your level out to more eyes. If your level gets popular and you wanna make money off it, make RUclips videos about it yourself. It's exactly what voxicat did with ispywithmylittleeye. It's kinda a shame you spent so long of the video talking about this issue because it's really a non-issue for almost any creator in the game. It would require a really complex system, may overshadow a lot of genuine artistic expression and passion, and is something the community doesn't even want from everything that I've seen
I suppose I have a different perspective simply because I'm not incredibly into the community. I don't watch a huge amount of videos for it, I just play cool levels on my phone. I completely understand that a lot of people think that adding monetary incentive can dull artistic passion, but it's worth remembering that art (stuff like film, tv, fine arts) typically co-exist with money. People create art because they're passionate about it but passion doesn't necessarily pay the bills. It might even promote ingenuity, who knows? I did sort of touch on the fact that you could just create your own channel, but it won't result in the viewership that bigger RUclipsrs will attract. Voxicat's video saw a whopping 2.2M views but that's an eighth of what Nexus received. I think it's fair enough if you don't want the money, but surely it should at least be an option for these creators. Especially considering these creators are quite young, and likely unaware of the amounts of money they are declining. Ultimately it is just my opinion, and it is up to the community to decide what they'd like to do with this alternate perspective. I hugely appreciate the comment - it's really interesting to get a bit of context, especially that this idea is unfavorable within the community! Thanks for watching!
@@progress_games while some might find the monetary incentive to fuel their creativity, there WILL be people who just do it for money, and it will overshadow the people who make actual good levels. also geometry dash just isnt the place for that kind of thing.
@@axiompro123 yea, there's already a good amount of creators who seemingly just create for creator points; adding money into the equation would make it so much worse
but having money incentives could be both good and bad depending on how you look at it.. ig it is different tho.. and that isn't currently how the community is accustomed or used to operating
This was incredibly well made. As a nerd of this game I can assure this was really well documented and explained. This video also brought, with the mention of the concept of funding for deserving creators, a very important point to the table (which I didn't even thought about until today). I also want to thank you for caring to explain that the vast majority of the stuff that appears in levels is not pre-built in the level editor or something like that. Every effect, pattern and structure in a level is built from scratch with small and carefully placed details. Thank you for this video, I wish you the best :D
10:39 incredible video! But this point comes across a little nitpicky. No creator has ever complained about this, as all creators are fully aware that they wont get any money from creating levels. Its usually their hobby to create these levels. And hobbies dont always need to earn you money.
Also calling Nexus’s contribution “minimal” is a little disrespectful considering it takes time and effort to showcase levels and their coins. His showcases create exposure for the creators and he even verified a few extreme demons so they can hit the servers in the first place.
He’s also the only showcaser who beats the levels he showcases. His contribution is pretty damn important and the content is high effort because he beats the levels
Cool vid id just use another person’s dash recording because the person who made the video did some very bad stuff that i cannot say on youtube but feel free to look it up
Yikes I had no idea thanks for the heads up. A bit late now though, and you can’t edit a video once it’s uploaded. Hopefully doesn’t take away from the video too much!
10:16 bruh the demonlist is responsible for like half of all new people coming to the game because hard levels get popular really fast, also bloodbath has like over 1000 victors
i love the fact that you use community levels as arguments on this video, because it shows how much the game is driven by the community. Great stuff too !
Well... in that case, as a dedicated GD player I can say that update 2.2 came out on December 19th 2023. The major update right before that, 2.1 came out on 16th January 2017. Nearly a 7 year gap, and yet the community was alive for all of that time! Insane, right?
really good video. im learning how to decorate levels for like 1 year now. i never think about making money from creating. i just want to show my creativity and i want to prove myself that i can make really good levels. U deserve much more views this video is great.
The problem with monetary based creation is that people would start losing creativity and just head for the money. Everything will go crap. A lot of games have fallen in this same hole and all ended up dying or going rotten. I think geometry dash levels being free creations is good because creators create not for the money, but for creativity, which is healthy.
If nexus were to try to give compensation for creators levels the easiest way to do so is via a set fee to showcase a level before he post them to a yt channel, asking the creators permission before it
12:35 dude nexus also plays the game and uploads his completions lol. Making levels is a passion project and everyone knows it won't make them money simply by making it. Showcases are actually heavily appreciated by creators cause it gets them attention, it's hardly exploitation, and they ask showcasers to present their levels.
All of the times that I’ve seen the creator of a level in nexus’s comment section they are usually thanking nexus for showcasing the level to such a big audience
Hard disagree that creators should be monetized. At the end of the day, Geometry Dash levels are an art form, and people make levels out of passion. Adding a financial incentive would not only be a logistical nightmare, but it'd turn it from something done out of passion to something done out of desire for monetary gain.
Movies, painting, music, books, video games are all forms of art that can also financially support the creator. Passion and monetary gain are not mutually exclusive.
I would love to see this happen, but robtop will never do this because at the end of the day he has being doing the same thing for 10 years and its made him a lot of money. He even has achievements set up where you need to release levels in his game in order to unlock them in order to incentivise level creation so that he doesnt need to put effort into updating the game.
i had a really long comment (literally 6 paragraphs) going over why people dont really care about being paid revenue for their levels (it is REALLY in-depth and by that i mean you covered not even a fraction of what i was saying) but i stopped caring so in summary 1. theres creator points given to the creators of levels robtop approve of and its why most people make levels 2. people like expressing their ideas and creativity in the gd editor anyways and 3. people like collaborating with others the reason no one minds channels like nexus making all this money from their work is because a creator seeing their level being showcased wouldnt be annoyed, but honoured, since they don't build with money in mind at all and moreso just creator points and the ability to show their level to a wider audience. so in short, having your level on nexus' channel is actually a really good thing. a large creator like him will only upload levels he considers the best of the best/worth his time, and serves as more of a shoutout from one of the largest community figures. nexus makes your level popular while giving you a huge boost in status/popularity, while he makes some fat racks. as a matter of fact, people will request or even beg for youtube channels to upload a showcase of their level (which i have done so myself), on quite a regular basis as a matter of fact. if you were to ask somebody who uploaded your video on their channel for a portion of their revenue you would be considered a jackass in the community lmao i dont think its a good idea for robtop to pay creators. that would just incentivise creator point grinders to pump out more low effort levels and for more people to steal creations, which are both already prominent issues in gd. anyways sick video! theres a bunch of issues in what u said that i really dont feel like clarifying (unless someone wants me to) because this game is complex af but you did a great job researching i was pretty impressed !!!!
Honestly I’d love to hear what else you had written up if you can be bothered. I think it’s a really unique dynamic because most people don’t care about the money, but also don’t know how much money they’re missing out on. A lot of different creative pursuits can have money as an incentive that doesn’t compromise the creative integrity of those involved. Stuff like music creation, RUclips videos, and video games will all garner the creator money but that doesn’t mean they sacrifice quality. I think if there was monetary incentive it would, if anything, add more ingenuity to levels. And with nexus, I think it’d be even more of an honour if he got in touch and said ‘hey, I’d love to showcase your level. I normally pay $XX per XX views or a flat rate of $XX.’
@@progress_games it would be weird to draw a line between people uploading difficult accomplishments in the game just to show it off and somebody such as nexus showcasing a level for views and money, because nexus IS an incredibly skilled player and beating everything on his channel legitimately. a scenario like that realistically would never happen, because it would just become way too problematic for regular players and would need some miracle within the community to somehow organize something like that. thats an entire point i forgot to mention LMAO
I don't think there is a single game with such a complex, multifunctional sandbox. There is a undecillion undecillions of different levels that can be created because the level editor just features so many variables, and most importantly, it gives you a wide variety of songs too. This is why Geometry Dash will never die, it's because we will never get even close to truly running out of ideas before ANOTHER update comes out and opens up even more possibilities
insane to mention communism and then spend half the video talking about monetary compensation for the creation of art which would bring all the cons of capitalism into geometry dash and possibly ruin the entire creator community
This video was great! I agree with the monetization of levels being too low and unfair. I hope that in the future level creators will be more compensated.
the way games like this die is by just simply not working anymore. lets say windows 12 comes out and you cant open the game anymore. ive seen people updating games themself to keep it going when that happens but thats basically it. at some point they can relese such complex os change that it would be too much to just make the game work again and game will die. id estimate this time frame is around 200 years
Interestingly enough, this game didn’t work on iOS for about 4 years but its prominence on other platforms remained. I’d imagine if it stopped working on PC, people would figure out a way to port it from mobile.
I literally spent half a dollar in Play Market to get official licensed copy of this game in my country. However, Robtop himself said that he doesn't want to increase the prices for GD
THIS GAME SHOULD BE DEAD BJT IT ISNT, ive been playing since late 1.9 early 2.0 i think. Like 2015, god i feel old, but i remember getting those first user coins, racing friends for the most coins. What a time man. Look up Devils Creek btw. Old level my feiend made, on his phone and its alot of timings😂
10:46 "altho.. its not quite exploiting child labor like in starbound" hool' up .. what?? (also, touché.. its an interesting topic issue thing when you put it that way.. but yeah ig the creator's levels being showcased on youtube don't get youtube money compensation.. )
Take this as criticism, not hate. I agree with most of the video, but your point on paying the level creators is outright ignorant. You said multiple times that they are motivated by their own passion, and when they make the decision to spend hundreds of hours on a level they know that they will make 0 dollars and still do it. If someone wanted to make money from level creation there are ways to do it, but it's simply not their priority. An artist that is driven by monetary gain is not an artist in the first place. You said that showcasers are exploiting level creators, wouldn't that be the case with everything then? For example would you have to pay royalties to robtop for making money from playing his game? Or maybe if you're playing a free game for a video should you pay a cut to the developer? Does a movie critic need to pay the director to make a review video? If you say yes then you agree with most copyright laws that if they were true RUclips would be a television program, and independence would be a crime. Tl;dr they don't want money because passion is not fueled by money
I appreciate the distinguishing between the two 😅 I think you have an interesting point. You could even say, should I pay money to RobTop for making a video about his game and making money on the video? I think the answer is no. The important factor about RobTop, about the director of a film, or even a lot of free games, is that they all have ways they can or are making money. Directors want people to talk about a movie because it'll make them money. RobTop wants people to showcase and discuss his game because it'll make him money. Even developers of free games will want people to play the game and create content for it, because chances are if there isn't already a way to monetise it, there will be soon! But for GD players, they want people to see their level because they're proud of what they've created. That's cool too, and completely fair enough. But the dynamic is distinctly different because then the person who did all the creative input gets paid nothing while the RUclipsr gets paid. Even fine artists, think painting or drawing, want people to promote their stuff in order to get visibility, get money, and create a career out of their passion. Passion and money can co-exist, and money can enable someone to explore their passion in its entirety! Thanks for the comment!!
4:18 Creators don't work and make cool stuff just for the sake of it and 100% just passion. Fame, youtube views that give money and creator points are the incentive. Rewards motivate people to make masterpieces, without rewards, most people don't see it worth it. When you can gain money or something from doing anything, people put more effort and give it more importance, which always ends up in a higher quality product. Same with top players, what do you think motivates top players to verify levels and get ridiculously good? fame, clout, money, being the number 1... And yes sure, they might have fun, but not always. If their only reason to play this game, get good and make levels is "to have fun" or "make cool stuff", we would not have players and creators this good. Communism doesn't work with human nature, and the GD community is not an example of communism at all. Without any incentive at all, without creator points, YT views that give money and the possibility of becoming famous... I don't think we would get the same quality of levels. There's a reason why most if not all the countries in the world are most a capitalism and those that are said to not be, in reality are also capitalism with some socialist or communism aspects here and there. Purely communist societies don't succeed in the large scale. Communist and socialist societies work in paper but not in practice, they sound like an amazing idea, but once you try them, they don't work... Once again, at least not in the large scale like a country or a big community. Communism works with small groups of people. Am sorry to tell you, but GD is a bit of a capitalism lol. Good players and level creators are the ones that make the "products" which they try to "sell" to the rest of players, these players decide what levels or what players are the best, and the best are the ones that end up becoming more famous and make more money. Competition is CRUCIAL for creativity and pushing boundaries. Look at the space race, look at all the technology that emerges in wars... Look at what people make in creator contests in GD. Im living proof of this myself, when Im competing against someone, I always end up doing better than I thought I was capable of. Communism is the lack of competition, communism is not rewarding innovation and extra effort... Communism leads to the stagnation of society, laziness, it leads to corrupt governments... etc. This has been proven over and over again.
@@victoriamacarthur8906 Trust me it is. Many top creators and top players literally live of creating GD content, they make thousands of dollars. Becoming a famous GD player/creator makes money. Look the amounts of views the verification videos have for example, or the amount of views level showcases have. Millions or hundreds of thousands. You can become a famous GD content creator by simply doing GD videos without really being an outstanding player o creator, but being a very good player or creator makes the chances of you actually succeeding WAY higher or even guaranteed.
You might want to put a photosensitive epilepsy warning at the beginning.
I'm unfortunately not able to update the video itself without reuploading, but I added a warning via a card at the beginning! Might pin this comment too, but hopefully if this reaches the GD community they should be aware of the game's flashing lights!
@progress_games I'm sure someone will appreciate the card. I don't have epilepsy myself, but some of those levels were hard to look at, so I I thought I should say something.
Fortunately(or unfortunately) most geometry dash videos are only recommended to people who play the game, and those people are well aware of the seizure inducing gameplay
If you have epilepsy and play geometry dash you’re asking to die
About your point with compensating creators
Surprisingly enough, this does happen within some instances, but it's actually really disliked by a lot of the community. There's this idea that levels will lose the artistic passion a lot of them currently have if there is a financial incentive. It's something we already see with "creator points" which are given to a creator when their level gets recognized by the developer of the game and rated/featured.
With nexus specifically, I've had 2 of my levels featured on their channel and I can confidently say I've never even thought about wanting financial compensation, and I'm certain 99% of the creators of the levels he showcases haven't either. It's a prestigious thing in a way that gets your level out to more eyes. If your level gets popular and you wanna make money off it, make RUclips videos about it yourself. It's exactly what voxicat did with ispywithmylittleeye.
It's kinda a shame you spent so long of the video talking about this issue because it's really a non-issue for almost any creator in the game. It would require a really complex system, may overshadow a lot of genuine artistic expression and passion, and is something the community doesn't even want from everything that I've seen
I suppose I have a different perspective simply because I'm not incredibly into the community. I don't watch a huge amount of videos for it, I just play cool levels on my phone.
I completely understand that a lot of people think that adding monetary incentive can dull artistic passion, but it's worth remembering that art (stuff like film, tv, fine arts) typically co-exist with money. People create art because they're passionate about it but passion doesn't necessarily pay the bills. It might even promote ingenuity, who knows?
I did sort of touch on the fact that you could just create your own channel, but it won't result in the viewership that bigger RUclipsrs will attract. Voxicat's video saw a whopping 2.2M views but that's an eighth of what Nexus received.
I think it's fair enough if you don't want the money, but surely it should at least be an option for these creators. Especially considering these creators are quite young, and likely unaware of the amounts of money they are declining. Ultimately it is just my opinion, and it is up to the community to decide what they'd like to do with this alternate perspective.
I hugely appreciate the comment - it's really interesting to get a bit of context, especially that this idea is unfavorable within the community! Thanks for watching!
@@progress_games while some might find the monetary incentive to fuel their creativity, there WILL be people who just do it for money, and it will overshadow the people who make actual good levels. also geometry dash just isnt the place for that kind of thing.
@@axiompro123 yea, there's already a good amount of creators who seemingly just create for creator points; adding money into the equation would make it so much worse
but having money incentives could be both good and bad depending on how you look at it..
ig it is different tho.. and that isn't currently how the community is accustomed or used to operating
@@progress_gamesi very much agree with your take
This was incredibly well made. As a nerd of this game I can assure this was really well documented and explained. This video also brought, with the mention of the concept of funding for deserving creators, a very important point to the table (which I didn't even thought about until today). I also want to thank you for caring to explain that the vast majority of the stuff that appears in levels is not pre-built in the level editor or something like that. Every effect, pattern and structure in a level is built from scratch with small and carefully placed details. Thank you for this video, I wish you the best :D
Thank you for the comment! I’m so glad you enjoyed the video - it is so impressive what people achieve by putting little shapes together!
10:39 incredible video! But this point comes across a little nitpicky. No creator has ever complained about this, as all creators are fully aware that they wont get any money from creating levels. Its usually their hobby to create these levels. And hobbies dont always need to earn you money.
Also calling Nexus’s contribution “minimal” is a little disrespectful considering it takes time and effort to showcase levels and their coins. His showcases create exposure for the creators and he even verified a few extreme demons so they can hit the servers in the first place.
He’s also the only showcaser who beats the levels he showcases. His contribution is pretty damn important and the content is high effort because he beats the levels
Im so glad you made a video on this game. I used to always play this growing up so this is kinda nostalgic for me. (as always great video)
Glad you enjoyed it! I remember playing this on my iPod touch when I was still in primary school...
Cool vid id just use another person’s dash recording because the person who made the video did some very bad stuff that i cannot say on youtube but feel free to look it up
Yikes I had no idea thanks for the heads up. A bit late now though, and you can’t edit a video once it’s uploaded. Hopefully doesn’t take away from the video too much!
i’m guessing Advy? Uhh
I just love the constant updates TBH
10:16 bruh the demonlist is responsible for like half of all new people coming to the game because hard levels get popular really fast, also bloodbath has like over 1000 victors
i love the fact that you use community levels as arguments on this video, because it shows how much the game is driven by the community.
Great stuff too !
I had such a hard time narrowing it down too! It's insane how many amazing creations there are!
Great video brother! I have been seeing more GD in my feed, but never followed the game and didn’t know what the resurgence was about.
Glad you enjoyed! Very much appreciate the support!
Well... in that case, as a dedicated GD player I can say that update 2.2 came out on December 19th 2023. The major update right before that, 2.1 came out on 16th January 2017. Nearly a 7 year gap, and yet the community was alive for all of that time! Insane, right?
@@fouriousbanana6966I love that for the community! Right on, man!
@@K_hessel Thanks! :D
really good video. im learning how to decorate levels for like 1 year now. i never think about making money from creating. i just want to show my creativity and i want to prove myself that i can make really good levels. U deserve much more views this video is great.
Just checked out your channel - you're really good at the game. I wish you all the best with your creating!
@@progress_games thanks
The problem with monetary based creation is that people would start losing creativity and just head for the money. Everything will go crap. A lot of games have fallen in this same hole and all ended up dying or going rotten. I think geometry dash levels being free creations is good because creators create not for the money, but for creativity, which is healthy.
If nexus were to try to give compensation for creators levels the easiest way to do so is via a set fee to showcase a level before he post them to a yt channel, asking the creators permission before it
That is actually a really good idea. They still get compensation but it’s not a huge headache for him managing finances
12:35 dude nexus also plays the game and uploads his completions lol. Making levels is a passion project and everyone knows it won't make them money simply by making it. Showcases are actually heavily appreciated by creators cause it gets them attention, it's hardly exploitation, and they ask showcasers to present their levels.
Amazing video you definitely deserve alot more views than this video has right now
Thanks! I really appreciate that! I'm hoping it just needs some time to find its audience 😅
Fun fact the level at 11:01 is Quaoar (I only know this cuz Camellia's music got added to GD in the past 24hrs lmao)
All of the times that I’ve seen the creator of a level in nexus’s comment section they are usually thanking nexus for showcasing the level to such a big audience
I think Quaoar at ~11:08 was labeled as Avernus
Hard disagree that creators should be monetized. At the end of the day, Geometry Dash levels are an art form, and people make levels out of passion. Adding a financial incentive would not only be a logistical nightmare, but it'd turn it from something done out of passion to something done out of desire for monetary gain.
Movies, painting, music, books, video games are all forms of art that can also financially support the creator. Passion and monetary gain are not mutually exclusive.
I would love to see this happen, but robtop will never do this because at the end of the day he has being doing the same thing for 10 years and its made him a lot of money. He even has achievements set up where you need to release levels in his game in order to unlock them in order to incentivise level creation so that he doesnt need to put effort into updating the game.
Agreed but disagreed
The reason the geometry dash editor is so good you can make everything never intended to be part of GD
I think me being able to make levels is the only reason why I'm a 4th year player
i had a really long comment (literally 6 paragraphs) going over why people dont really care about being paid revenue for their levels (it is REALLY in-depth and by that i mean you covered not even a fraction of what i was saying) but i stopped caring so in summary 1. theres creator points given to the creators of levels robtop approve of and its why most people make levels 2. people like expressing their ideas and creativity in the gd editor anyways and 3. people like collaborating with others
the reason no one minds channels like nexus making all this money from their work is because a creator seeing their level being showcased wouldnt be annoyed, but honoured, since they don't build with money in mind at all and moreso just creator points and the ability to show their level to a wider audience. so in short, having your level on nexus' channel is actually a really good thing. a large creator like him will only upload levels he considers the best of the best/worth his time, and serves as more of a shoutout from one of the largest community figures. nexus makes your level popular while giving you a huge boost in status/popularity, while he makes some fat racks. as a matter of fact, people will request or even beg for youtube channels to upload a showcase of their level (which i have done so myself), on quite a regular basis as a matter of fact. if you were to ask somebody who uploaded your video on their channel for a portion of their revenue you would be considered a jackass in the community lmao
i dont think its a good idea for robtop to pay creators. that would just incentivise creator point grinders to pump out more low effort levels and for more people to steal creations, which are both already prominent issues in gd.
anyways sick video! theres a bunch of issues in what u said that i really dont feel like clarifying (unless someone wants me to) because this game is complex af but you did a great job researching i was pretty impressed !!!!
Honestly I’d love to hear what else you had written up if you can be bothered. I think it’s a really unique dynamic because most people don’t care about the money, but also don’t know how much money they’re missing out on.
A lot of different creative pursuits can have money as an incentive that doesn’t compromise the creative integrity of those involved. Stuff like music creation, RUclips videos, and video games will all garner the creator money but that doesn’t mean they sacrifice quality. I think if there was monetary incentive it would, if anything, add more ingenuity to levels.
And with nexus, I think it’d be even more of an honour if he got in touch and said ‘hey, I’d love to showcase your level. I normally pay $XX per XX views or a flat rate of $XX.’
@@progress_games it would be weird to draw a line between people uploading difficult accomplishments in the game just to show it off and somebody such as nexus showcasing a level for views and money, because nexus IS an incredibly skilled player and beating everything on his channel legitimately. a scenario like that realistically would never happen, because it would just become way too problematic for regular players and would need some miracle within the community to somehow organize something like that. thats an entire point i forgot to mention LMAO
I don't think there is a single game with such a complex, multifunctional sandbox. There is a undecillion undecillions of different levels that can be created because the level editor just features so many variables, and most importantly, it gives you a wide variety of songs too. This is why Geometry Dash will never die, it's because we will never get even close to truly running out of ideas before ANOTHER update comes out and opens up even more possibilities
that title has the same energy as "when you givin your homie the best advice of his life but say "idk tho" just in case it ruins his life"
Lmao gotta stay on the safe side
10:14 reflexes lol, it's muscle memory
insane to mention communism and then spend half the video talking about monetary compensation for the creation of art which would bring all the cons of capitalism into geometry dash and possibly ruin the entire creator community
Fair point. Noones really asking for a change. I was just giving my opinion on the matter! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
This video was great! I agree with the monetization of levels being too low and unfair. I hope that in the future level creators will be more compensated.
There are already amazing new Levels coming out each day that that take advantage of these amazing new features.
You mean the silly Lobotomy levels?
11:03 ah yes, Avernus by Viprin, Xender Game, DayJT, and more
ruclips.net/video/L3wKzyIN1yk/видео.html
you probably should have added a trypophobia warning for Peaceful
I'm going to make my future children play GD if the game is still alive.
you're gonna be a great parent!
Bro, wake up. It's 2014.. What? 2.2? Platformer mode? Dude, Bloodbath got verified by Riot!
funfact: some of the creators have yt channels! so some of them get some money!
that's crazy, i watched bug tdx vid by olexa
Nice! Very good to have you here! Stick around for some juicy roguelike content in the future…
@@progress_games of course
10:26 it has so many victors
the way games like this die is by just simply not working anymore. lets say windows 12 comes out and you cant open the game anymore. ive seen people updating games themself to keep it going when that happens but thats basically it. at some point they can relese such complex os change that it would be too much to just make the game work again and game will die. id estimate this time frame is around 200 years
Interestingly enough, this game didn’t work on iOS for about 4 years but its prominence on other platforms remained. I’d imagine if it stopped working on PC, people would figure out a way to port it from mobile.
13:32 this was not what I would think about, I wasn’t expecting this. But I think that isn’t exploiting though.
"GD will never die" mfs when the servers get inevitably shut down permanently
Ah sweet! High quality documentary channels without subscribers!
Honestly RobTop should have made gd cost more, I’ve played like 1000 hours per dollar I’ve spent on this game
i agree 100%, this game is criminally cheap. plus, people are able to recreate entirely different games within it!
I literally spent half a dollar in Play Market to get official licensed copy of this game in my country. However, Robtop himself said that he doesn't want to increase the prices for GD
THIS GAME SHOULD BE DEAD BJT IT ISNT, ive been playing since late 1.9 early 2.0 i think. Like 2015, god i feel old, but i remember getting those first user coins, racing friends for the most coins. What a time man. Look up Devils Creek btw. Old level my feiend made, on his phone and its alot of timings😂
Also since 2.2 just came out, the game probably has 10 years of life at least with no new content needed
If you're goin over GD being immortal you GOTTA go over TF2
11:01 totally avernus am I right?!??!
You are using guitarherostyles' video at the beginning 😭 (he likes kids and is somehow not banned yet)
what I said
10:46 "altho.. its not quite exploiting child labor like in starbound"
hool' up .. what??
(also,
touché.. its an interesting topic issue thing when you put it that way.. but yeah ig the creator's levels being showcased on youtube don't get youtube money compensation.. )
Take this as criticism, not hate. I agree with most of the video, but your point on paying the level creators is outright ignorant. You said multiple times that they are motivated by their own passion, and when they make the decision to spend hundreds of hours on a level they know that they will make 0 dollars and still do it. If someone wanted to make money from level creation there are ways to do it, but it's simply not their priority. An artist that is driven by monetary gain is not an artist in the first place. You said that showcasers are exploiting level creators, wouldn't that be the case with everything then? For example would you have to pay royalties to robtop for making money from playing his game? Or maybe if you're playing a free game for a video should you pay a cut to the developer? Does a movie critic need to pay the director to make a review video? If you say yes then you agree with most copyright laws that if they were true RUclips would be a television program, and independence would be a crime. Tl;dr they don't want money because passion is not fueled by money
I appreciate the distinguishing between the two 😅
I think you have an interesting point. You could even say, should I pay money to RobTop for making a video about his game and making money on the video? I think the answer is no. The important factor about RobTop, about the director of a film, or even a lot of free games, is that they all have ways they can or are making money. Directors want people to talk about a movie because it'll make them money. RobTop wants people to showcase and discuss his game because it'll make him money. Even developers of free games will want people to play the game and create content for it, because chances are if there isn't already a way to monetise it, there will be soon!
But for GD players, they want people to see their level because they're proud of what they've created. That's cool too, and completely fair enough. But the dynamic is distinctly different because then the person who did all the creative input gets paid nothing while the RUclipsr gets paid. Even fine artists, think painting or drawing, want people to promote their stuff in order to get visibility, get money, and create a career out of their passion. Passion and money can co-exist, and money can enable someone to explore their passion in its entirety!
Thanks for the comment!!
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lolllllll who would play this lollll notheless make levels.... cant be me!
bro the gameplay is fire!
the gameplay: tap to jump
I went to like the video and was blown away that only 50 other people have liked it so far!
That means so much!! I really appreciate your support :))
@@progress_games :) it deserves way more attention
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4:18 Creators don't work and make cool stuff just for the sake of it and 100% just passion. Fame, youtube views that give money and creator points are the incentive. Rewards motivate people to make masterpieces, without rewards, most people don't see it worth it. When you can gain money or something from doing anything, people put more effort and give it more importance, which always ends up in a higher quality product. Same with top players, what do you think motivates top players to verify levels and get ridiculously good? fame, clout, money, being the number 1... And yes sure, they might have fun, but not always. If their only reason to play this game, get good and make levels is "to have fun" or "make cool stuff", we would not have players and creators this good. Communism doesn't work with human nature, and the GD community is not an example of communism at all.
Without any incentive at all, without creator points, YT views that give money and the possibility of becoming famous... I don't think we would get the same quality of levels. There's a reason why most if not all the countries in the world are most a capitalism and those that are said to not be, in reality are also capitalism with some socialist or communism aspects here and there. Purely communist societies don't succeed in the large scale.
Communist and socialist societies work in paper but not in practice, they sound like an amazing idea, but once you try them, they don't work... Once again, at least not in the large scale like a country or a big community. Communism works with small groups of people.
Am sorry to tell you, but GD is a bit of a capitalism lol. Good players and level creators are the ones that make the "products" which they try to "sell" to the rest of players, these players decide what levels or what players are the best, and the best are the ones that end up becoming more famous and make more money.
Competition is CRUCIAL for creativity and pushing boundaries. Look at the space race, look at all the technology that emerges in wars... Look at what people make in creator contests in GD. Im living proof of this myself, when Im competing against someone, I always end up doing better than I thought I was capable of.
Communism is the lack of competition, communism is not rewarding innovation and extra effort... Communism leads to the stagnation of society, laziness, it leads to corrupt governments... etc.
This has been proven over and over again.
its not that deep
@@victoriamacarthur8906 Trust me it is. Many top creators and top players literally live of creating GD content, they make thousands of dollars.
Becoming a famous GD player/creator makes money.
Look the amounts of views the verification videos have for example, or the amount of views level showcases have. Millions or hundreds of thousands.
You can become a famous GD content creator by simply doing GD videos without really being an outstanding player o creator, but being a very good player or creator makes the chances of you actually succeeding WAY higher or even guaranteed.
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why is avdys video used
Where did you get the xstep clip
From Joe
I beat sayitback thanks to this video
11:19 no way its avernus
Yeah it’s actually quaoar - my bad!
@@progress_games dw lmao
fire in the hole!
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